Don't spot shoot... you have to keep moving with the bird then jump ahead of it when you are ready to shoot.

Also, a trick that helps is to aim right about where you want to shoot but turn your head slightly so that your eyes are watching the clay as it flies out from the trap. Makes it MUCH easier to track its path

Sidefolder is the best way to go. On my arsenal you can't even tell the stock folds, has no play what so ever.

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with my .243 at 300 yards was pretty windy like usual up on the range . Wanna get it down to a softball area and ill be happy. also learned at 50 yards i can hit a quarter if needed haha

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took the five seven to the range 20 rounds at 20 yards, boy i love this gun ( the marked one is a stray 45 from my wifes first time shooting my officers model)

I just got this on Saturday. I'm going to hit up a range today to try it out.
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anyone on here have the ruger blackhawk or the vaquero? I'm thinking about picking up two of either one so some thoughts would be cool.

These pics don't do the sights justice... they are much brighter than what is shown here

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And here I thought Jordans M249 SAW was a zombie's worst nightmare... haha

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Night sights look good Brian, not sure I would want to carry a gun without them, unless it had CT or something similar...

the pic made me LOL

Unfinished wood looked ridiculous (even for an AK) so I ran to Walmart and grabbed some minwax stain and polyurethane. It's a terrible finish, but at least it's something. I stained and urethaned it as fast as possible, completely disregarding dry times. I wiped the stain off and let it sit for about a minute before grabbing the can of clear. lol. I was hoping for a little more red but close enough. It's not staying on there long anyway.

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A friend of mine had an extra Magpul MOE+ overmolded rubber AR grip, so I stole that and attacked it with a Dremel and adapted it to fit the AK. It took about 15 minutes and a trip to Advance Auto to get a shorter M6-1.0 bolt. It's a bit far forward but it's much more comfortable than the factory plastic crap.

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Gun case? Who needs a stinkin' gun case? :mrgreen:

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Haha I have gotten some looks when I walked up to a range and pulled my krinkov out of a backpack.

Lookin good Mike!!!

I picked up a simple HD shotgun tonight, taking my mom to the range this weekend, lol!

Next purchase will hopefully be a TRP in the coming months

So I'm watching this show on Discovery called "First Week In" and tbh, it's scary.

It also has me thinking about the things that we carry every single day and even though the majority of us have a firm grasp on the law, these things could land us in jail quite easily with just the slightest slip up. Hell, even if we use it legally, we could still get thrown into jail until the court figures out what's what.

Always got bail...like I said if your justified your straight

I know, but it's the downtime between being declared justified that I'm uncomfortable with.

If its not a clear cut self defense it wouldn't be long if charges were pressed at all, now civil suits could spring up especailly if they did not have a weapon themselves whihc I think should be a provision to the new castle laws..

If they had a weapon gun or replica firearm or other lethal weapon etc civil suits are much harder now

True, even though Castle provides more protection, this sort of thing happens so fast that it is almost a guarantee that it will be murky and will take time to sort out. I think the only way that it is clear cut is if somebody is attacking me with a knife/gun and I manage to draw and fire first. Even then though, a gun was used in an assault and although Castle laws provide protection, my immediate future depends on how the officer chooses to respond at that moment.

But I suppose the argument of it's still better to be alive and in jail than dead... but still, jail sucks.

^^It also will depend on how things go after the incident and how you handle yourself...shoot me your email ill send you some interesting reads...

Sent..

This happened the other day not more than 5-10 minutes from where I live. It is also less then 200yds from where I used to work.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=361731

Nice little quote from the article that made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

I happen to know D.A. Adams as he was one of our lawyers in my chop shop case that I was acquitted on when I had my car lot. So its nice to see that he's pro 2A.

That was some pretty specific wording he chose while talking to the investigators after the shooting..

*edit- even though he won't be charged, the attackers didn't have any weapons. Doesn't that mean that he is vulnerable to civil suits?

Yes, unfortunately but I doubt they will win if they do go forward with one, which the way ppl are today the will with the evidence presented and the kids previous records..

Why I stated this needs to be a provision to the new castle laws..

Hell look at the ung/didanto (sp) case, didanto is going after ung and the 5 bars he visited that night

Never got that pm

Did some digging and found the original article to the one posted by Munky.

The guy who defended himself was arrested and (this is just my guess) by the dates on the articles, was possibly held for two days. That scares the hell out of me.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx...obref=obinsite


*edit- found anther article where it said after consulting with Adams, the police decided to release the victim, but it doesn't say how long they had him.

http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx...obref=obinsite

And if you are say in a position where you can not afford legal defense, you are pretty much screwed.

Resent the PM.

They only took him into custody to bring him to the station for questioning. They then released him from there and didn't charge him with anything.

Yep, he was not charged with anything, and even you know Brian, you're walking out the day if they're not charges pressed against you...

Resent that email!

Munky, loving the bodyguard, and the girl likes it too lol! She has been practicing loading/unloading every night to get her more comfortable handling guns other than me just telling her to pick one up off the table at the range...slow but steady process, hopefully she will want to carry in the future

Well that's comforting I guess..

Lest important question though..what happens to the firearm?

I am sure its held for "investigation" and then returned afterwards...I am not sure about this, but that is what I imagine..

Munky?

On a lighter note.


What's everyone buying firearm related with ther tax return?

none with my tax return, but i just bought my girl a bodyguard .380 and tonight i bought a mossberg 500 with some accessories for a universal HD for the house (more for ease of use for my mom/dad/sister)

now with my work signing bonus im looking to get a Springfield Armory TRP :supz:

Then im probably going to chill on the gun purchases for a little...

Although I just bought my first spyderco, a moonglow manix 2 (pretty rare, only ~800 produced in two runs) I hope this doesnt become part of the addiciton

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...5/manix001.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22.../manix2003.jpg

:supz: TOLD YOU!!! :lol: That's awesome tho that she's digging it.
Typically was held during the questioning but I would assume (and by no means am I an authority on this subject just going off what I have learned while obtaining my degree) they would release it to him once no charges were filed. They might have held it though just to do ballistic testing on it for proof that it was the weapon in question but since he admitted to it I dunno that they would have. Also since it was actually a murder and not just a shooting they might hold it until everything is sorted out completely. But like I said IANAL.
^^^In a nutshell :rofl:
Nothing :cry: Using whatever I do get to help pay off my lawyer.

See the previous page(es) about my Draco. I'm also SBRing it and doing some work to it.


Steve that Manix is sick. If you noticed in the thread on pafoa I mentioned that I've been looking at a Native 5 for a while now. I'm tempted to buy it right now. lol. The only other Spyderco that I really like is that Manix 2, but only the full flat ground plain edge like the moonglow. The problem is finding a non-moonglow with the FFG.

I know a background check may be in order before returning it to, although INAL...

And Munky, good luck and wish the best with your situation!

I saw that in the thread (native 5 G10 is sick)...I could never justify spending that type of money on a knife, however, this moonglow manix 2 was just something I had to have, and with such a limited run i might just hold onto it for some time and keep it NIB...

I only really like the FFG too, another reason i jumped on this knife..

Ive seen them go for crazy on ebay, like crazy haha

I really hope i dont dive to far into this knife thing haha

and i lied about not purchasing after i pick up a TRP, I want a draco *cough* dave *cough*

Wow... after reading some of those articles, I don't even want to leave my freakin house now..

But I also learned a lot from them, so thank you Steve.

No problem, remember it is important on how you word things after a self defensive conflict when using your firearm, the 911 call is recorded and your tone of voice, wording, etc could all be used against you..

I highly suggest taking some self defensive pistol classes, you learn A LOT!

If you think going with a partner would make things easier for you or more comforting, ill go with you..Can never get enough of that!:supz:

Best of luck Munky.


As for blades,they get addictive really quick. Look at the guys on the EDC forums.
Those guys go bat crazy for anything with an edge on it.



Hopefully I get enough back to pick up a Glock 30 for a bug for my 21/every day carry peice. That or I'll start building an AR/pick up a J-frame

There is a VERY strong possibility that I will take you up on that offer, Steve.

The Native 5 is pretty reasonable I think, $125 isn't that bad. You'll pay that much for a 'normal' Benchmade or other bigger brand knife. I think $150 is a good ceiling for a knife purchase unless you must have some sort of special collector's knife.

Side note - anyone interested in meeting up for the Oaks gun show, maybe shooting after?

ill be there first thing saturday morning, have a party to go to in the afternoon tho so I won't be able to make it shooting.