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Xavier 11-16-2010 01:17 PM

Anyone heard about this yet? New Jersey man sentenced to 7 years for simply transporting his handguns while moving.

http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/1...tkens-mistake/

Munky 11-16-2010 01:57 PM

His mother should be beaten with a bar of soap neatly placed in a sock. Sucks for him...but this is why I stay outta Nazi Jersey with my guns.

rodder 11-16-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 1853669)
i was semi-kidding about the black talons, i got them from gun broker around the same premise as hiring a midget stripper... its just cool to have. You guys take everything so damn serious! maybe ill bring a midget stripper to the next group shoot no one will show up to :wink:

I'll show up if there will be midget strippers.

rodder 11-16-2010 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 1853696)
Anyone heard about this yet? New Jersey man sentenced to 7 years for simply transporting his handguns while moving.

http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/1...tkens-mistake/

yup, saw that on PAFOA. Absolutely sickening. :mad::(:bigeek:

drifty240 11-16-2010 09:47 PM

Have not been on here for a long time. Shot 3 gun and some tactical pistol the last few months. Picked up a couple 1911's, another Sig 229 and this weekend a Glock 36. Anyone else on here shoot any sort of matchs? I really want to try uspsa or Idpa next year.

PhillySVT 11-16-2010 09:49 PM

So I decided to get a 20" Repr....best price I found is $3,480 shipped to my ffl for one in black. Anyone know of anyone cheaper? I would love a desert tan model but it's not a deal breaker. Any help would be appreciated!
-Mike

jrkal 11-16-2010 10:03 PM

Never noticed this thread before! Pretty cool. I only own 2 guns, and Ive never fired either.

One is a .22 cal bolt action rifle. I don't recall the name, it's very old, I think from the 30's and is single shot only. Trappers gun probably.

My other is my prized possession, it's a German Kar 98k used in WWII. It has a ton of markings. It was made in 1941, and has markings of the Nazi symbol with the eagle in various spots. It also has other markings, particularly under the bolt, and to me they look asian. I'm not sure what is up with that, maybe numbers or something that became distorted but well who knows. I believe the gun was issued to a soldier who served in Africa/Italy at some point as my great grandfather is the one who took it home and that is where he served. I don't think it has a firing pin anymore.

I'll get pictures up and find out the details of the .22 once I'm home again and not at school for you guys.

PhillySVT 11-16-2010 10:19 PM

Post some pics of the 98.....I love seeing GI bring backs!

~Brian~ 11-16-2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Xavier (Post 1853696)
Anyone heard about this yet? New Jersey man sentenced to 7 years for simply transporting his handguns while moving.

http://reason.com/archives/2010/11/1...tkens-mistake/


I read that entire article and I just can't believe it. I drive from Pa through NJ and NY with my gun in my trunk quite often and I make sure to do all of the same things he did...

I may just leave the gun in Vermont where I know I'm safe...

jrkal 11-16-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillySVT (Post 1854082)
Post some pics of the 98.....I love seeing GI bring backs!

Definitely will! It'll be sometime next week or this weekend, when I'm home again. Mind you it's not in perfect condition but I'll take a bunch of all the goods.

DC2.2GSR 11-16-2010 10:41 PM

olletsocmit:

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Originally Posted by olletsocmit (Post 1853874)
45 days!!! wtf. I knew it should not take that long. i have talked to other people that live in my area and they all said I got mine faster than they did. Its total BS. I also have a friend that lives in Berks and he got it in under 30 min. Im pissed now.

And i appreciate you correction my wording. You are right. I carry a glock mini currently, so i conceal it under my shirt right now. I used to carry it on the back right of my pants, but I got looks all the time from people like "why does this kid have a gun" haha. So now i keep it tucked away.

It's your choice whether you want to conceal or carry openly but if you decide to open carry or if someone gets a glimpse in public, it doesn't matter what other people think. Let 'em give you looks. You're superior because you choose to take responsibility for your own safety and they do not. F*** 'em.

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I have my gun and knife on me 99% of the time when i go out now. If im going into a store with kids or a bank, i just lock it in my car.
This really confuses me. Why do you lock it up if you're going into a bank? Banks are not prohibited areas. You can carry anywhere you want. If you're worried about unwanted attention just remember that concealed means concealed. There are lots of people who even open carry into their local banks on a daily basis. When you start waiving it around and firing into the ceiling, then there's a problem. lol

The 'around kids' thing really bothers me. Of course if it's just how you feel then by all means do what you like, but really... you actually remove the gun if you're going to be around kids? I know you don't mean it to sound like it at all, but that mindset is very 'anti-gun'... it's one of the antis main talking points. Firearms do not have minds of their own. They don't grow arms and legs and climb out of holsters and go on shooting sprees all by themselves. They don't "go off" and they aren't inherently unsafe. A user chooses to present the weapon and pull the trigger. Simply being around kids is no reason to remove the gun. I actually wrestle around on the ground with my friend's kids all the time while carrying. Of course their safety if always on my mind, but it's not dangerous just being around them or even being a little rough. It's a quality holster with positive retention and your own self awareness and control of your own gun that keeps it in the holster and safe.

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This is what i am currently using. most of the gun is hidden inside my pants and then my shirt is over the rest.

Most of my friends never even know i have it or dont know i take it outside the house... guess they do now. haha.

Do you carry +1? I am not sure about it yet. With a full clip and 1 in the chamber... i am worried about dropping it and the gun discharging by accident.
It sounds to me like you carry without a holster. Hopefully you don't. If you do, get a high quality holster ASAP or else stop carrying.

..and yes, I always carry with a round in the chamber. Load the mag to capacity, chamber a round, then drop the mag and top it off. It's dangerous to carry without a round in the chamber. It's been covered many times in many places (even in this thread a few times), but basically... if you carry without a round in the chamber then you're putting yourself at risk.

Click some of the links in post #2 in this thread and then read the responses. You'll quickly be convinced that it's stupid to not carry "+1": http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...-one-hole.html

Also, for general reference, read these:

http://paopencarry.org/pdfs/Pennsylvania_Gun_Rights.pdf

http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-ope...nsylvania.html

cmr076 11-16-2010 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillySVT (Post 1854058)
So I decided to get a 20" Repr....best price I found is $3,480 shipped to my ffl for one in black. Anyone know of anyone cheaper? I would love a desert tan model but it's not a deal breaker. Any help would be appreciated!
-Mike

my offer still stands if your interested in an 18" model... i have leupold glass on it and a harris with two stock options!

DC2.2GSR 11-16-2010 10:45 PM

Dave - I knew the Talons were a joke. lol. A conversation piece more than anything I'm sure. Whenever I see the words "Black Talon" I instantly got pissed at the gun-grabbers' "but.. but.. they're COP KILLERS!!" bulls*** lol. Some people are just plain retarded.

cmr076 11-16-2010 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1854121)
Dave - I knew the Talons were a joke. lol. A conversation piece more than anything I'm sure. Whenever I see the words "Black Talon" I instantly got pissed at the gun-grabbers' "but.. but.. they're COP KILLERS!!" bulls*** lol. Some people are just plain retarded.

thats why i got them, the negative light they had cast on them immediately has people say "ZOMG HOWD YOU GET THOSE!)!)!!11!11!1" i think i may be shooting at wicens saturday if anyone is up for it, i wanna stretch the legs on the REPR and get the dragunov out, havent shot it in probably 2 years

cmr076 11-16-2010 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1854117)
olletsocmit:
It's your choice whether you want to conceal or carry openly but if you decide to open carry or if someone gets a glimpse in public, it doesn't matter what other people think. Let 'em give you looks. You're superior because you choose to take responsibility for your own safety and they do not. F*** 'em.

i dont think open carry has anything to do with taking responsibility for your own safety, i NEVER OC and i probably never will (except at the range) it is completely a personal preference, to me i would rather have my firearm concealed and not get looks, stopped and asked questions, it just seems like a hassle and unnecessary (flame away)

olletsocmit, at the end of the day it is whatever makes you comfortable, IF you do decide to OC PLEASE for your sake and the sake of other carrying members of the public, be well versed in the law and print out a few flyers from PAopencarry.org

heres a linkhttp://paopencarry.org/pdfs/Pennsylvania_Gun_Rights.pdf


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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1854117)
It sounds to me like you carry without a holster. Hopefully you don't. If you do, get a high quality holster ASAP or else stop carrying.

olletsocmit For the love of god do not carry a firearm without a holster. i love my desantis cozy partners, even convinced DC2.2 to get one haha. if you cant afford a holster i have a spare nylon desantis that should fit your sub glock (i keep my G36 sitting in it but could throw the glock in the safe) i would give it to ya for the cost of shipping or you can come pick it up.

God forbid you are gangsta' carrying and your gun falls out in the market, intersection, etc. everyone loses (but mainly you and other gun enthusiasts, thats the type of **** that antis LOVE and will use to illegitimize (real word??) us as a whole)


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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1854117)
It's dangerous to carry without a round in the chamber. It's been covered many times in many places (even in this thread a few times), but basically... if you carry without a round in the chamber then you're putting yourself at risk.

i would not say its dangerous, more stupid than anything. If you think you can rack a round and get on target (while making sure of what is BEHIND your target) in the amount of time it takes someone to get to you from a distance you would reasonably be defending yourself, you are insane.

When i first started carrying (for the first few days) i carried w/o a round in the pipe... it just made me more comfortable as far as holstering and unholstering, getting used to carrying in general, etc.

olletsocmit 11-16-2010 11:47 PM

I am sorry guys, I did not make it very clear before... I DO use a holster. It is just one that holsters the gun inside my pants.

here is a pic of what i use:
http://stores.vtfireandpolice.com/catalog/810_large.jpg

DC2.2GSR 11-16-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 1854140)
thats why i got them, the negative light they had cast on them immediately has people say "ZOMG HOWD YOU GET THOSE!)!)!!11!11!1" i think i may be shooting at wicens saturday if anyone is up for it, i wanna stretch the legs on the REPR and get the dragunov out, havent shot it in probably 2 years

I'm in. It's a hike, but hey.. I don't do a damn thing on the weekends anyway. lol. Shooting pistols too or just the long guns? I guess I have to get a range safety thinger for each range right?

I tend to think the same way you do about open carry, even though I OC once in a while for the hell of it. My point I was trying to make to him is that if anyone wants to give him crap because he OCs or someone gets a peek while he's CCing, (more likely) then in my opinion I say f*** their opinions - regardless of how he chooses to carry, he's choosing to be responsible and be able to defend himself and they are not.

~Brian~ 11-17-2010 12:03 AM

Speaking of Glocks..

http://www.guncrafterindustries.com/

rodder 11-17-2010 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1854171)
in my opinion I say f*** their opinions - regardless of how he chooses to carry, he's choosing to be responsible and be able to defend himself and they are not.

Sorry, but I'm not sure that's the right attitude. Being considerate of others is one of the things that will work HUGELY in our favor. (besides it just being kind of a "humanly" thing to do, the 'ol golden rule and all :wink:)

If you have the option of either: a)brushing off anyone's feelings (regardless of whether they're legitimate or not - I tend to think feelings are feelings and are always legitimate) who expresses discomfort with your carry method... or, b)offering them a flyer and simply explaining that what you are doing is 100% legal and wishing them a nice day, I'd recommend leaning towards (b) as much as possible.

Sure, some people are just dicks and will never change their minds but they're in the minority. The vast majority of people who don't know about guns are mostly just curious. They may have insecurities and misconceptions that cause them to initially react negatively but the absolute worst thing you could do would be to just mumble something and ignore them.

I feel that with the way guns are currently portrayed in the media (evil incarnate - except in the movies :roll::furious::bs:) that choosing to OC includes the responsibility of being an "ambassador" of sorts for the law-abiding gun community. Of course, this is all just my sometimes-not-so-humble opinion, so take it FWIW. But as the saying goes, you can catch more bees with honey... :afro:

rodder 11-17-2010 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 1854084)
I drive from Pa through NJ and NY with my gun in my trunk quite often and I make sure to do all of the same things he did...

uhhh, yeah... don't do that. :eek:

Seriously, I thought that was common knowledge among PA gun owners. Methinks someone needs to do some lurking and reading over on PAFOA...

another life potentially ruined by the friendly gun-hating ****hole called NJ:
http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-d...or_having.html
(my father-in-law actually went to the jury selection for this trial and was dismissed because he told the judge he has a son-in-law and daughter who live in PA that carry guns and he doesn't think there's anything wrong with having them lol)

Basically your life depends on your knowledge of the laws if you own a gun. Innocent guys who've done nothing but POSSESS a gun are the only people they seem to actually make "examples" of. The multiple-convicted felons always get the plea bargains. :furious::furious::furious::furious:


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