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jpalamar 04-23-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11 (Post 1711040)
Figured I'd start quoting sources like everyone else has hah. I have friends who live in Mohnton, Shillington, Exeter, etc. I've been into Reading several times, my father even worked in West Reading, right off of 422 there. I know it's dangerous, though I never physically witnessed any crimes as I try to avoid downtown as often as possible ;-)

Reading has 4 Rent-A-Centers... thats when you know it's bad lol.

Xavier 04-23-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11 (Post 1711040)
Figured I'd start quoting sources like everyone else has hah. I have friends who live in Mohnton, Shillington, Exeter, etc. I've been into Reading several times, my father even worked in West Reading, right off of 422 there. I know it's dangerous, though I never physically witnessed any crimes as I try to avoid downtown as often as possible ;-)

Yea, my buddy used to live there and was robbed at gunpoint a couple of times.

Scapegoat 04-23-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98 (Post 1709631)
personally speaking I won't hesitate to call police if I see someone openly carrying, not because it's the law, but because people should grow a brain cell or 2 and think before they do ****

alex... go **** yourself

PAFirefighter11 04-23-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Red94Celica (Post 1710609)
I carry in the waistband everytime I leave the house pretty much, and have a permit to do so.

I didn't know PA issued permits to carry weapons?

GeforceXtreme 04-23-2010 10:10 AM

I just hope no one 2 steps at the event...

Scapegoat 04-23-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98 (Post 1709684)
because yea it's your right, but that doesn't mean you have to excersize it that way at any given time. Time and a place for everything.

good deal... it's your right to breath... you don't have to exercise it either... so please stop

CleanNeon98 04-23-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Red94Celica (Post 1710609)
I carry in the waistband everytime I leave the house pretty much, and have a permit to do so.

But for christ sake, seeing all these people butt hurt over it makes me want to open carry just out of spite. Granted I never open carry because its just pointless in my opinion. All it does is draw uneeded attention, and I dont want to make somebody feel akward around me because of it.

Nobody cares about how other people will react to the situation, they just want to "excersize their rights". Where's that "TST: we know politics" poster when I need it :roll:

ASIAN JUL 04-23-2010 10:15 AM

I seriously hope none of you anti-gun people ever end up in a situation where you need to defend yourself and don't have the time to sit around and wait for the cops to show up.

max2k1 04-23-2010 10:15 AM

Whether CC or OC, it doesnt change the fact that the gun is still there. So what is the difference if someone wants to OC. The reason you want people to CC is so that you can be happy in your ignorance in thinking that cause you cant see the gun, means it isnt really there.

motorvated 04-23-2010 10:17 AM

LOL @ this thread.

PAFirefighter11 04-23-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by max2k1 (Post 1711062)
Whether CC or OC, it doesnt change the fact that the gun is still there. So what is the difference if someone wants to OC. The reason you want people to CC is so that you can be happy in your ignorance in thinking that cause you cant see the gun, means it isnt really there.

Just like that stealth bomber that's flying over head when you're on the ground in Iraq. It's night time and I can't see or hear it, so it's not there right? :lol:

CleanNeon98 04-23-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL (Post 1711061)
I seriously hope none of you anti-gun people ever end up in a situation where you need to defend yourself and don't have the time to sit around and wait for the cops to show up.

Just throwing it out there, I'm not "anti-gun", I just think there's a better time and place to excersize your rights. I've never seen any of the people who are so strongly wanting to OC, OC at any other meets, seems more like a cry for attention than anything else.

Go ahead, flame me, I don't give 2 ****s.

ASIAN JUL 04-23-2010 10:19 AM

Some of you might feel safer in Cali, D.C., New Jersey, or New York. Don't have to worry there, you'll be safe because their gun laws are super strict, so nothing bad ever happens there.

max2k1 04-23-2010 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ASIAN JUL (Post 1711067)
Some of you might feel safer in Cali, D.C., New Jersey, or New York. Don't have to worry there, you'll be safe because their gun laws are super strict, so nothing bad ever happens there.

You couldnt pay me to move to there. I'd rather go to North Korea, and I think they execute cripples like me haha

angdefeo 04-23-2010 10:26 AM

Guns make some people uncomfortable. I own more guns and have a CWP and if I see someone other than a police officer or solider openly carrying a pistol I get uncomfortable. We no longer live in the Wild West type society but a place where people for the most part act civilized towards each other. Even though its everyone’s right in PA to openly carry a pistol outside of Philadelphia county, I don’t care, cause a person walking around with a pistol on their belt or a holster on their leg, is outside the norm. If you want to carry a gun it takes no more energy to wear the gun under an oversized shirt on your waist, in a shoulder rig under a shirt or jacket, in your pocket in a pocket holster, in a back pack or purse. So common sense to me dictates that in our society where carrying your pistol openly is outside the norm.

Plus even though you are 100% within your rights to openly carry a pistol, a police officer who is charged with maintaining the public’s safety can’t tell the difference from a law abiding citizen or a criminal when a call comes in with a person carrying a gun. So in order to make life a little less complicated, hide the gun.

To me this was never a 2nd amendment argument. It is more of common sense behavior when your in a crowded parking lot with 500-800 strangers.

PAFirefighter11 04-23-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98 (Post 1711066)
Just throwing it out there, I'm not "anti-gun", I just think there's a better time and place to excersize your rights. I've never seen any of the people who are so strongly wanting to OC, OC at any other meets, seems more like a cry for attention than anything else.

Go ahead, flame me, I don't give 2 ****s.

I am doing what I feel comfortable with, which is CC. It's raining on Sun, so I may not be there anyway. If I was on my bike, it'd be showing, but mostly CC. I think the issue at hand is that people do OC every single day. This is what they are comfortable with, so that's what they are doing. I wouldn't change to OC just 'cause of this event or anything like that.

ASIAN JUL 04-23-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98 (Post 1711066)
Just throwing it out there, I'm not "anti-gun", I just think there's a better time and place to excersize your rights. I've never seen any of the people who are so strongly wanting to OC, OC at any other meets, seems more like a cry for attention than anything else.

Go ahead, flame me, I don't give 2 ****s.

Alex, I'm just wondering when do you think it's more appropriate to exercise your rights? If lots of people have this mentality about handguns, then in your opinion, technically nowhere sounds like a good place to open carry.

And just for the record... what attention? The OP says he does not and will not be open carrying and that he brought this up in case someone were to plan on open carrying.

I'm only speaking for myself but people who open carry, to me, are not doing it as a cry for attention. Maybe some people are pushing for acceptance rather than being singled out.

CleanNeon98 04-23-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by angdefeo (Post 1711078)
Guns make some people uncomfortable. I own more guns and have a CWP and if I see someone other than a police officer or solider openly carrying a pistol I get uncomfortable. We no longer live in the Wild West type society but a place where people for the most part act civilized towards each other. Even though its everyone’s right in PA to openly carry a pistol outside of Philadelphia county, I don’t care, cause a person walking around with a pistol on their belt or a holster on their leg, is outside the norm. If you want to carry a gun it takes no more energy to wear the gun under an oversized shirt on your waist, in a shoulder rig under a shirt or jacket, in your pocket in a pocket holster, in a back pack or purse. So common sense to me dictates that in our society where carrying your pistol openly is outside the norm.

Plus even though you are 100% within your rights to openly carry a pistol, a police officer who is charged with maintaining the public’s safety can’t tell the difference from a law abiding citizen or a criminal when a call comes in with a person carrying a gun. So in order to make life a little less complicated, hide the gun.

To me this was never a 2nd amendment argument. It is more of common sense behavior when your in a crowded parking lot with 500-800 strangers.

GTFO, you're making too much sense for the people in this thread.

PAFirefighter11 04-23-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by max2k1 (Post 1711072)
You couldnt pay me to move to there. I'd rather go to North Korea, and I think they execute cripples like me haha

lol you're making me think of that South Park episode now...

max2k1 04-23-2010 10:33 AM

Am I just looking for attention when I'm strapped into my wheelchair and wearing a TLSO brace to support my spine with my gun in a shoulder holster in plain view? I cant exactly stick it in my pants or cover it with a shirt


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