Insurance needed to park non-used car on the street?

[wheresmycar]

City streets.

Registration only?
or
Registration + Insurance?


I just don't want the Philadelphia Parking Authority driving around with the plate recognition cameras ticketing or towing the car.

[emdot]

IIRC, you need both. you cant register (techically) a car without insurance. so when you do drop insurance coverage, PennDot is notified that you have no insurance. When the plate is ran, it'll come up. Also, make sure you have no parking tickets either.

[jjm4life]

reg and insurance, since im almost positive you cant have one without the other in PA. depending on where you are in the city yyoure going to need a resident permit parking sticker as well. o, and current insepction... i think peteyturbo got towed for some bs like that not too long ago

[wheresmycar]

Thanks.
Yeah. You can't register a car without insurance.
In this case:
The car is registered but no longer insured.

[97TurboDSM]

not having insurance will be good when someone hits it or steals it.

[dragonfly2k3]

depending on your agency you can do parked-only insurance. Its like 12 bucks a month just to get theft coverage basically. However, if it shows on your odo at your next inspection that you've been driving it more than just to get it inspected they will probably bone the hell out of you.

[SheaButter]

If you have a registered car in PA with insurance, when insurance is dropped on the vehicle a message is sent to PENDOT. You will get a fine in the mail for not having insurance, so you are honestly gonna need both.

[dragonfly2k3]

^^thats simply not true. I have dropped insurance on ALOT of registered cars, they just cant sit on the street, or atleast you cant get caught with them sittin on the street.

[SheaButter]

Then I have been misinformed, sorry about that.

[jpalamar]

You can't register your car without insurance.

You cannot park a non-registered vehicle on a public road.

If you cancel insurencae, you are required by law to mail your plate back to them, failure to do so can result in an FSTOP on your car (temp registration suspension)

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[dragonfly2k3]

Again, not true. You can drop insurance and keep the plate.

[jpalamar]

Again, not true. You can drop insurance and keep the plate.

I'm sure there are different laws in each state, but PA is what I stated. I know because I went through it when I deployed and dropped insurnace. Got a 90 day suspension on my registration for not sendign the plate in when I droped my policy. To top that off, the 90 days didn't start until they received the plate after I came home.

It was to say the least, a PITA

[dragonfly2k3]

I dropped insurance, but didnt get any suspension on my registration. Ive owned more than one car that ive had to drop insurance on and just let sit.

[terrorcel]

I dropped insurance on my Bimmer once (by accident), paid my insurance with an old debit card and PennDOT was notified, I didn't notice until next billing cycle and 31 days had passed, over 30 days w/o insurance and I got a 90 day registration suspension. It sucked dick.

Then I dropped insurance on my tercel (i was selling it) and I didn't care if my reg got suspended, and I never heard ANYTHING from the state. I still have my license plate, reg card, etc.

[jpalamar]

from: http://www.dot3.state.pa.us/insurance/index.shtml

Financial Responsibility Overview
Pennsylvania law requires all Pennsylvania motor vehicle owners to maintain vehicle liability insurance (financial responsibilty) on a currently registered vehicle. Vehicle liability insurance covers the property damage or injuries you may cause others in an accident.

A lapse in insurance coverage results in the suspension of your vehicle registration privilege for three months, unless the lapse of insurance was for a period of less than 31 days and the owner or registrant proves to PennDOT that the vehicle was not operated during this short lapse in coverage. If PennDOT determines that you operated your vehicle without the required insurance, your driver's license will also be suspended for three months. The registration plate, sticker, card and driver's license must be surrendered to PennDOT in order to serve the suspension. Restoration fees of $50.00 and proof of insurance must be submitted prior to having either registration or driving privileges returned.

Please note that insurance companies are required to notify PennDOT when an insurance policy is cancelled by the insured. Insurance companies are NOT required by law to notify PennDOT when a vehicle owner acquires a new insurance policy with the same or different insurance company. It is the vehicle owner's responsibility to notify PennDOT of the new insurance after receiving a proof letter from PennDOT. Failure to respond to PennDOT's proof letter will result in the suspension of the vehicle registration. A suspension may be avoided by the return of the registration plate, sticker and card to PennDOT at the time the insurance policy is cancelled or financial responsibility lapses. Registration plates, stickers and cards must be received by PennDOT no more than 30 days after insurance was cancelled. Registration plates, stickers and cards received by PennDOT after 30 days will result in a three-month registration suspension. To surrender the registration plate, sticker and card, mail them to:

Bureau of Motor Vehicles
Return Tag Unit
P.O. Box 68597
Harrisburg, PA 17106-8597

Important: Any vehicle which is currently registered MUST have insurance (financial responsibility). Customers should always surrender their registration plate to PennDOT when insurance is not in effect, even if the vehicle is in for repairs or being stored and not being driven. Otherwise a suspension of the registration may occur.

Other Items
If a customer transfers their plate to another vehicle before or within 30 days of the cancellation, the record will be rescinded.
If a customer transfers their plate after 30 days of the cancellation, credit will start from the date the plate was transferred. The suspension is imposed against the vehicle, not the plate.
The customer has the right to appeal the registration suspension within 30 days of the mail date of the official notice. They cannot file the appeal after the 30 days.
If a suspension has been issued and the customer's plate has been destroyed, a notarized statement indicating the disposition of the plate and the date it was destroyed must be submitted. If the plate has been stolen, a copy of the police incident report must be submitted. In both cases upon receipt of the requested information, credit for the three-month suspension will begin. The credit will begin from the date the plate was destroyed or stolen.
If the motorist has moved to another state, a copy of either the registration or certificate of title from the new state must be provided in order to release the suspension.
If the vehicle has been sold to a motorist in another state, submission of a notarized statement indicating the name of the owner, the state it is being registered in and the date of sale will release the suspension.
If the motorist returned the license plate, card and sticker and PennDOT has no record of receiving it, submission of the receipt issued by PennDOT or a notarized affidavit stating the date the plate was mailed will begin credit for the three-month suspension.
If the plate was lost or left on a vehicle that was traded in or repossessed, submission of a notarized affidavit indicating it is no longer in your possession and the reason is required. The date of the notarized affidavit will begin credit for the three-month suspension.
If the plate was taken from the customer by a police officer, the customer should submit a copy of the seized report issued by the police officer or a notarized affidavit stating the date the plate was taken, in order to begin credit for the three-month suspension. The date provided on the copy of the seized report and the date the police officer took the plate is one in the same.

[dragonfly2k3]

hmm, i guess the state just slips over me hahaha.

[turboman808]

I have a company car and they forgot to pay the insurance. $300 fine from NY State.

[3rdGenMr2Girl]

you can only drop insurance on a car and not send the plates in if you have another car under your insurance policy. i know from personal experience from about 7 months ago.

[jpalamar]

you can only drop insurance on a car and not send the plates in if you have another car under your insurance policy. i know from personal experience from about 7 months ago.

Sounds shady lol.

I bet the insurance agent didn't report the lapse of insurance because a policy was still open. Technically, they should have reported it. Can't complain when its an error in your favor though!

[3rdGenMr2Girl]

^ could be. i went to drop insurance on one of the cars on my policy and asked the guy if i had to send the plates in and he said no because there was still another car on the policy. fine with me lol.

[emdot]

^^thats simply not true. I have dropped insurance on ALOT of registered cars, they just cant sit on the street, or atleast you cant get caught with them sittin on the street.

exactly, AND you will get caught. The city is out looking for money these days so that means no regards to giving out fines. they have those uber-cool Astro vans that drive around scanning plates to see who they can boot/hand tickets to. again, if you live in the 'burbs or other counties besides philadelphia, you will get away with it, not in the city though. PPA is ruthless. watch Parking Wars for reference.

[dragonfly2k3]

haha, yeah.

ps. emdot, i just moved liked 5 blocks from duongbros!

[emdot]

Haha word? Hit us up sometime for ssome late night lurk sessions LOL

[Got Insulin?]

exactly, AND you will get caught. The city is out looking for money these days so that means no regards to giving out fines. they have those uber-cool Astro vans that drive around scanning plates to see who they can boot/hand tickets to. again, if you live in the 'burbs or other counties besides philadelphia, you will get away with it, not in the city though. PPA is ruthless. watch Parking Wars for reference.

This. I used to work for the PPA for a minute, they don't play around and they are starting to move into the 'burbs, but just strictly on the low-key. Foxchase, NE Philly, and the surrounding areas are starting to have the vans pop through, and the tow-trucks creep out more frequently. Also, beware, the PPA is an independent contractor, and not a goverment run operation, so if they think they can get your car, they'll find a way to do it.

[wheresmycar]

Thanks.

PPA is ruthless. Probably from the economy but I've been seeing more and more boots on cars. I saw one on a del sol on nice wheels and thought hmmmm maybe I should check out the ppa auctions. I had no idea how long it would go from booted, not picked up, to the auction though.

[Got Insulin?]

Thanks.

PPA is ruthless. Probably from the economy but I've been seeing more and more boots on cars. I saw one on a del sol on nice wheels and thought hmmmm maybe I should check out the ppa auctions. I had no idea how long it would go from booted, not picked up, to the auction though.

Cars are held in impound for one month before being transferred to a storage lot, and at the end of the second month, put up for auction if I remember correctly. Check out the auctions, you can get some rediculous deals.