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peteyturbo

03-17-2009, 10:05 PM

So it turns out hyundai is getting crafty on us after all, sneaky little devils:)
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/03/inside-line-dyno-test-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-20t.html?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2.*&mktcat=enabler&AID=10364102&PID=3196496&kw=N&synpartner=edmunds&mktid=cj260233

jjm4life

03-17-2009, 10:06 PM

saw that earlier.still dont care hahah

peteyturbo

03-17-2009, 10:07 PM

saw that earlier.still dont care hahah

eh, 13.0:-p

jjm4life

03-17-2009, 10:08 PM

id be even slower in the hyundai.. plus id be driving a hyundai

peteyturbo

03-17-2009, 10:16 PM

You gotta admit though, thats a crafty little surprise lol

dragonfly2k3

03-17-2009, 10:25 PM

i could totally rock one.

http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/07/Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-SEMA.jpg

looks like a badass little car.

pinacup7

03-17-2009, 10:33 PM

227 lbs of trq at the wheels, thats impressive. This car def has potential, interested to see the reliability

AMF Racing

03-17-2009, 11:14 PM

so its safe to say that with a tune and bolt ons it gonna be over 300whp/350wtq.......

phate1229

03-17-2009, 11:24 PM

that looks like it's gonna be a very fun car, now it just needs to come out 20 or so years ago so I can afford one for a project.

james_ls

03-18-2009, 12:10 AM

Hard pipes + cat deletes + tune = ???

i_ride_fieroGT

03-18-2009, 12:38 AM

i saw one passing by the dealer today im seriousley thinking about getting rid of the bird for one:( ill miss my firebird if i do which is why its probabley not going to happen.

ndubz

03-18-2009, 12:47 AM

I really love this car. I think it will be one of the best cars on the market. Cant wait to test drive one :)

bl@ckvr4

03-18-2009, 12:49 AM

lol @ exhaust dent.

R_Rambo

03-18-2009, 08:59 AM

gotta admit im a fan. never i thought i would say that about a hyundai, but numbers dont lie thats pretty badass car

jjm4life

03-18-2009, 09:00 AM

i like chicks with an accent and i dont mean an hyundai

ASIAN JUL

03-18-2009, 09:00 AM

I like them, wish I had the financial ability to afford one.

Elliott18t

03-18-2009, 09:12 AM

i like chicks with an accent and i dont mean an hyundai

:mrgreen::cool: +1

good job hyundai

Cy76

03-18-2009, 09:28 AM

Seems like a great car and good for modifications. I'm not convinced of its value, though, especially given the depreciation hits that Hyundais usually suffer.

Buster

03-18-2009, 09:45 AM

Seems like a great car and good for modifications. I'm not convinced of its value, though, especially given the depreciation hits that Hyundais usually suffer.

thats exactly what I was thinking. I would give a year and see how the public takes it. Im sure I'll end up doing a few alignments on some.

DocWalt

03-18-2009, 10:01 AM

The V6 sounds awesome in real life. Super comfy seats, and the rest of the interior is really nice. I saw a color I haven't seen yet yesterday, bright green-ish. So nice looking.... I wish I had more money...

Scapegoat

03-18-2009, 10:31 AM

dunno... i just priced up a stock 2.0T for $22,750. This car has some serious potential in our demographic market. I think VS a cobalt ss/tc I see a lot of people choosing this over the chevy b/c its RWD and turbo.

Screw it having the name Hyundai on it... its still an awesome car

Buster

03-18-2009, 10:40 AM

driftingrx5.7

03-18-2009, 02:28 PM

not bad that will be an easy 300hp car with some mods and tuning, not bad at all! i would rock it but i am going to be a daddy so i need 4drs now :D

gary

03-18-2009, 02:46 PM

I have been toying with upgrading my tiburon for a while now. Even being a Hyundai fan boy, I will be waiting till at least the second year till I would even think about pulling the trigger. Hyundai has known to push things out before it is completely ready.

Scapegoat

03-18-2009, 02:49 PM

Did you really?

on hyundaiusa.com a base model 2.0t stock with no upgrades is 22,750. the track is 26 something. i didn't compare trim levels between that and the cobalt ss/tc base to base though.

I'm not in the market for a new car. If i was, i'd be doing way more research into the genesis coupe as it would be a strong contender for my affections

ndubz

03-18-2009, 02:51 PM

Seems like a great car and good for modifications. I'm not convinced of its value, though, especially given the depreciation hits that Hyundais usually suffer.

ya but big depreciation = Win

Then I can buy one as my DD :mrgreen:

bjune

03-18-2009, 03:01 PM

it was just released to the dealership yesterday we got topline model with a big brake kit from brembo 6 piston calipers in the front and 4 piston calipers in the back 3.8 v6 $31.000 witch anit to bad but the other model is either a 2.2 or 2.4 turbocharged engine

11secdsm

03-18-2009, 03:02 PM

I definitely want to check one out...

bjune

03-18-2009, 03:35 PM

ugly color

Renegade_

03-18-2009, 03:36 PM

I was also told the genesis coupe 2.0t is a 4B11 derivative...

Mitsu put some of their turbo wizardry to use in this car

http://www.genesisdriven.com/2009/03/05/beyond-redline-disassembles-20t-motor-with-pictures/

bjune

03-18-2009, 03:42 PM

it migth be iknow when they were talkin conecpt it was 2.2 i thinks. all we got in were the 3.8 v6 we probably wont see those 4 cylinders for a couple of weeks

bjune

03-18-2009, 03:59 PM

i hate hyundai but i like gennis and the gennis coupe

Renegade_

03-18-2009, 04:00 PM

I never heard of the genesis being a 2.2, but it could be. The article and the guy taking the engine apart said everything looks good up to ~400hp. The crank was beefy and strong, with the pistons and rods being weaker. Doesn't really matter though, he still said it should take ~400hp and that is MORE than enough for any drift car haha

Scapegoat

03-18-2009, 04:02 PM

same block as the evo x and caliber srt-4 still? just less displacement?

bjune

03-18-2009, 04:08 PM

except for the head cant take high boost or it migth warp the heads thats the first article i heard about the head

no-zoom2002

03-18-2009, 04:40 PM

I drove the v6 auto and it is snappy, super comfy ride, I used to sell hyundai's. the engine in the 4cyl turbo is the "4B11", should be a good platform, atleast the mitsu guys think so.

CleanNeon98

03-18-2009, 04:46 PM

I still don't like it.

DPancoast

03-18-2009, 05:42 PM

we saw a white or silver one drive by the Oaks meet last night. I think they look badass. I'd love to drive one.

Scapegoat

03-18-2009, 05:46 PM

we saw a white or silver one drive by the Oaks meet last night. I think they look badass. I'd love to drive one.

i think it was green... i like them... i'd certainly own one if i was looking to move to a rwd turbo vehicle within 20k. but buying used right now is the best option coughz06cough

DocWalt

03-18-2009, 05:48 PM

we saw a white or silver one drive by the Oaks meet last night. I think they look badass. I'd love to drive one.

It was bright green. It was back by Arnold's before the meet. It drove past quite a few times. Gotta show off the sweet new car somehow:mrgreen:

DPancoast

03-18-2009, 05:52 PM

green?

oh.

lol.... well it still looked and sounded cool haha.

R_Rambo

03-18-2009, 05:56 PM

CleanNeon98

03-18-2009, 06:26 PM

I was messing around with build your own on their website, and the colors minus white and black didnt seem right, like the red blue and green ( i think the only other choices it comes in) didnt seem to fit, hopefully in person they look better
One word...disproportionate. Big high rear, small sloping front makes the car look like a big wedge. I'll be driving one tomorrow to see if its as bad as I think.

Renegade_

03-18-2009, 08:19 PM

I want to see how the suspension is setup on these things... that will really make or break it in the drift car world. Well, not really; they drifted a charger and that was a mistake from the first second.

gary

03-19-2009, 12:08 AM

MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and an independent five-link rear suspension setup from what I have read.

peteyturbo

03-19-2009, 12:27 AM

I still don't like it.

you have like the worst opinions on cars EVER..New cars DO come out!!

dt98gsr

03-19-2009, 12:34 AM

This car is definitely going to be pretty impressive! Hyundai is heading in the right direction if you ask me...

SpEcRv9

03-19-2009, 12:34 AM

One word...disproportionate. Big high rear, small sloping front makes the car look like a big wedge. I'll be driving one tomorrow to see if its as bad as I think.

of course it will be as bad as you think, when you don't give any car a shot at being good if its not a rwd convertible.

PhillyLS1

03-19-2009, 12:41 AM

anyone else think that everything will start to fall apart once the mods start? One thing to have a good motor(open deck yuck) it's another thing for the rear and tranny etc to keep up.

Alot of hype going around about this car. In time we'll see if it's all worth it.

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 12:57 AM

you have like the worst opinions on cars EVER..New cars DO come out!!
I just don't like the car...

of course it will be as bad as you think, when you don't give any car a shot at being good if its not a rwd convertible.
And it has nothing to do with it not being a roadster...

sisforsurfing

03-19-2009, 01:01 AM

you have like the worst opinions on cars EVER..New cars DO come out!!

hahahahaha

Hyundai is doing really well in comparison to other automakers, they're doing something right. And a cheap, RWD, turbo coupe, why aren't more people excited about this? It's almost like the Silvia we never got, and if handling is even half as sorted and balanced as the s-chassis this car is going to be amazing.

I don't think things are going to fall apart 'as soon as the mods start.' It has a 10-year warranty... a tune and turboback and you'll have a plenty fun car for the price. After that there are rumors the transmission will be weak, but honestly who knows? And if it starts breaking transmissions at around 300whp it'll be just like that one AWD turbo 4-door that seems to be pretty popular.

I just don't like the car...

haha elaborate. Is it the styling or just that it's a Hyundai? Because it's the same general layout as your car, only like 30% bigger in every aspect (size, power, a hint of masculinity, etc)

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 01:13 AM

haha elaborate. Is it the styling or just that it's a Hyundai? Because it's the same general layout as your car, only like 30% bigger in every aspect (size, power, a hint of masculinity, etc)
For one I don't like the styling, like I said before it's very wedge-like. I don't like Hyundai in general as a brand because they "borrow" their styling from other companies. I don't like the fact that there is so much hype about this car (I am a fan of those cars that surprise people). I can almost predict what's going to happen. A bunch of toolbags between ages 18 and 25 are going to run out and buy a genesis coupe 2.0t. Then they are going to mod them and then there will be a flock of them in junkyards with salvage titles.

Besides, I can have an opinion about a car. I'm sure it's decent all around, I just don't like it.

By the way, the notion of things falling apart, yes you have a warranty but you can pretty much wipe your ass with it after you do the "exhaust and a tune"

WRX_JB

03-19-2009, 01:18 AM

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1262661#post1262661

probevette

03-19-2009, 01:30 AM

Well if its built anything like my 2001 tiburon beater then it should take a beating. My tiburon was a company car when purchased new..we beat the living HELL out of it. Many of my guys drove it like they stole it and didnt care for it(they didnt own it so they didnt care what happened to it). Then in 2005 with 150,000 miles on the car it was parked when we replaced a few cars with prius'. Up until 4 months ago the car sat since 05 with the same tank of gas, same oil, fluids etc never started, never moved, ..honestly I forgot I owned the car. Jumped the batter and she fired right up. Took it around the block a few times and it ran like a champ..mostly. Redid the brakes, changed the oil and wheel bearings and now its my daily beater and runs with 0 problems. It has been a good hyundai.

///chrism3

03-19-2009, 01:36 AM

For one I don't like the styling, like I said before it's very wedge-like. I don't like Hyundai in general as a brand because they "borrow" their styling from other companies. I don't like the fact that there is so much hype about this car (I am a fan of those cars that surprise people). I can almost predict what's going to happen. A bunch of toolbags between ages 18 and 25 are going to run out and buy a genesis coupe 2.0t. Then they are going to mod them and then there will be a flock of them in junkyards with salvage titles.

Besides, I can have an opinion about a car. I'm sure it's decent all around, I just don't like it.

By the way, the notion of things falling apart, yes you have a warranty but you can pretty much wipe your ass with it after you do the "exhaust and a tune"

once a dick always a dick

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 01:39 AM

once a dick always a dick
Where am I a dick? Because I don't agree with everyone else? Yea, that must be it..

///chrism3

03-19-2009, 01:41 AM

Where am I a dick? Because I don't agree with everyone else? Yea, that must be it..

nah u just think ur opinions are the only ones that matter..hate to break it to ya bud but they dont

and u can predict wats going to happen?

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 01:43 AM

nah u just think ur opinions are the only ones that matter..hate to break it to ya bud but they dont

and u can predict wats going to happen?
I never said anyone else was wrong...and yes what I said was opinion, including my prediction.

sisforsurfing

03-19-2009, 01:43 AM

I can almost predict what's going to happen. A bunch of toolbags between ages 18 and 25 are going to run out and buy a genesis coupe 2.0t. Then they are going to mod them and then there will be a flock of them in junkyards with salvage titles.

Besides, I can have an opinion about a car. I'm sure it's decent all around, I just don't like it.

By the way, the notion of things falling apart, yes you have a warranty but you can pretty much wipe your ass with it after you do the "exhaust and a tune"

so young, yet so jaded. Damn those 18 to 25 year olds! hah, you're totally entitled to your opinion, I was just curious why since it's a cheap turbo RWD coupe. I'm just happy to see someone make a car like this in this price range, and hope it does well. Low low 14's, ~.88 G, ~110 ft from 60 mph? Game on.

And I don't know where things stand with Hyundai, but even with overzealous Subaru and Mitsubishi, if you hurt something and change those two parts back (exhaust and reflash) there's really nothing they can say without proof. Not that I condone that or anything......

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 01:46 AM

so young, yet so jaded. Damn those 18 to 25 year olds! hah, you're totally entitled to your opinion, I was just curious why since it's a cheap turbo RWD coupe. I'm just happy to see someone make a car like this in this price range, and hope it does well. Low low 14's, ~.88 G, ~110 ft from 60 mph? Game on.

And I don't know where things stand with Hyundai, but even with overzealous Subaru and Mitsubishi, if you hurt something and change those two parts back (exhaust and reflash) there's really nothing they can say without proof. Not that I condone that or anything......
Dealerships are sneaky sneaky, they will know lol

peteyturbo

03-19-2009, 01:56 AM

the 18 to 25 year old are all out in they're nissan silvia's right now.. As far as I am concerned, that is NOT the type of people that are so excited about this car.. I really don't think this car is getting everyone worked up at all compared to other cars.. This car IS a surprise, it makes perfect sense from an engineering standpoint.. I don't hear people running around screaming hyundai genesis!! The 4b11 is a great engine that I would give any car wrapped around it a chance.. This is going to be the best new car you can buy in the price range for enthusiasts hands down, lets not make a big deal of why you don't like it.. I mean after all you don't like arguably the best car ever to come out of japan either.

///chrism3

03-19-2009, 01:58 AM

peteyturbo

03-19-2009, 02:03 AM

please no more drift time.. Why won't drifting just DIE?!?! :)

SpEcRv9

03-19-2009, 02:03 AM

///chrism3

03-19-2009, 02:06 AM

please no more drift time.. Why won't drifting just DIE?!?! :)

hahahaha

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 02:07 AM

In his mind, he owns the best car to ever come out of japan.. :roll:
It's like you know me better than I know myself!

lyricalmind24

03-19-2009, 07:37 AM

i gotta say hyundia is stepping their game up. the coupe is a nice ride

bjune

03-19-2009, 09:37 AM

marshallpre1

03-19-2009, 09:45 AM

This car is so full of win. 2.0T FTW

dragonfly2k3

03-19-2009, 03:39 PM

as far hyundai this is the first model i like i never like hyundai we do more warrinty work then anything so i see really how bad they are. tibby are okay for fwd but genesis get my respect finally a hyundia that realy well built and it rwd both coupe and sedan

stop, please stop posting. Your posts make my brain hurt. The grammar is just awful. I cant take it!

I love the coupe, and i think by this point every company borrows styling from something.

OPZ

03-19-2009, 03:42 PM

dragonfly2k3

03-19-2009, 03:58 PM

correct, they are not the exact same, however, it shares a good amount of parts with the evo. From what ive heard rods/pistons are the same, etc. Obviously the turbo/manifold/probably even head are different though.

Scapegoat

03-19-2009, 04:04 PM

The prices will deff come down a lot in the fall when they finally start discounting them.

Also, it is NOT the same engine as the evoX. The only similar thing about it, is Hyundai/Mitsu/Chrysler worked on the design of the block, and thats it. Looks similar? Yes. Exact same? No no!

This is deff my fav exhaust clip so far of the 3.8 v6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VWo1vy6VcM

same engine block though... yes?

I wonder how difficult it would be to bring the 2.0 to 2.4? Think evo x engine parts will bolt in place? that would be rather interesting...

GeforceXtreme

03-19-2009, 04:16 PM

Its interesting to see that they crushed the exhaust down to increase back pressure. GM did the same things in my car however when you remove what we call the "U-Bend" it Free's up a lot of HP and decreases Knock drastically. I think they crushed the pipe to reduce power more then create more back pressure?

What my exhaust looked like stock.. what a difference that made when it was removed.

http://www.zzperformance.com/products_img/504_2.jpg

CleanNeon98

03-19-2009, 05:34 PM

Not working today so I won't be driving one till at least tomorrow.

Signatus230

03-19-2009, 05:51 PM

Looks fun, but... damn. The exhaust is crimped? Haha, that thing will be all over the place, sigh.

ScubaSteve

03-20-2009, 12:15 AM

DocWalt

03-20-2009, 12:52 PM

That's not the Hyundai exhaust, that's just an example of what he's talking about.

This is the Genesis exhaust, it was crushed to make room for a cross member. Cars from the factory are designed to not have any chance of rattling or rubbing, they did the "right thing" for the average buyer.
http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/assets_c/2009/03/genesis%2020t%20dyno2_arrow-thumb-555x370.jpg

I'm sure they're not dumb enough to want to create back pressure on a turbo exhaust, back pressure with a turbo cuts the power drastically.

PhillyLS1

03-20-2009, 12:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-wgjIqyB8&feature=player_embedded

not really impressed. Anyone else?

JerseyTuscani

03-20-2009, 01:04 PM

i like it. after i'm done with the 240 i'll def. take a look at this car. RWD, nice looks, affordable price and a great powerplant what's not to like?

GeforceXtreme

03-20-2009, 04:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-wgjIqyB8&feature=player_embedded

not really impressed. Anyone else?

According to that video the car did a 1/4 time in 14.5 seconds. I really would have thought that car would be a lot quicker like into the mid 13's? I pulled off a 14.5 with just an intake and tune up on my car with 66 less hp? I guess that car weights a lot more then my 3500-3600lbs sedan? Its still a nice looking car and I can't believe its a Hyundai..

It is amazing with technology these days they can get over 300hp out of a 3.8 V6 N/A My 3.8 SC motor only put out 240 back then.

DocWalt

03-20-2009, 06:11 PM

It's because that video is by Edmund's and it's been proven time and time again that they can't launch cars for ****. At least they can threshold brake, lol.

edit: and that's before they got the reflash on the ECU.

R22B

03-21-2009, 10:47 AM

Sorry if its been posted/old - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpvqwCUzQ2A&feature=related

11secdsm

03-22-2009, 12:22 AM

AMS got theirs. Can't wait till used ones start popping up. :)

http://forums.evolutionm.net/automotosports-illinois/408277-ams-genesis-coupe-here-let-modding-begin.html

1slowteg

03-22-2009, 06:35 PM

Base curb weight: 3549 lbs. (V6); 3439 lbs. (4-cylinder).......little chunky 2.0T going to need mods for sure

ndubz

03-23-2009, 12:07 PM

This is pretty impressive, The stock V6 genesis makes around 280 whp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRAo-xBKl_Q its got true rwd loss, unlike many modern car only losing 10%

Rotary Knight

03-23-2009, 08:34 PM

yum yum...r-spec model

For 22k you can either get the genesis coupe or the v6 camaro. A little more you can get a mazda mx5.
Pretty much the only cars you can get thats good for under 27k.

Need more cheap rwd cars!!!

CleanNeon98

03-23-2009, 09:08 PM

Base curb weight: 3549 lbs. (V6); 3439 lbs. (4-cylinder).......little chunky 2.0T going to need mods for sure
LOL what a pig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX-wgjIqyB8&feature=player_embedded

not really impressed. Anyone else?
x2.

sisforsurfing

03-23-2009, 09:50 PM

I agree that it's way too fat. Unfortunately so many cars are these days.

I also still think that if you're not excited about another cheap RWD option coming to the market that you're dumb.

tranceporter

03-23-2009, 11:02 PM

capable car but it's going to bring such an influx of hot headed 17 yr old douchebags on the road

CleanNeon98

03-23-2009, 11:44 PM

I agree that it's way too fat. Unfortunately so many cars are these days.

I also still think that if you're not excited about another cheap RWD option coming to the market that you're dumb.
I gave my reasons. If I was in the market for one, i'd get the 3.8 for the complete package. Bigger brakes, wheels, styling bits, and whatever else it has on it. I am curious to see how the car does though. I have a feeling they will be everywhere, tranceporter said it well.

SpEcRv9

03-23-2009, 11:46 PM

I gave my reasons. If I was in the market for one, i'd get the 3.8 for the complete package. Bigger brakes, wheels, styling bits, and whatever else it has on it. I am curious to see how the car does though. I have a feeling they will be everywhere, tranceporter said it well.

if you get the complete package in either the 2.0t or 3.8...the brakes, wheels and styling bits are exactly the same.

CleanNeon98

03-23-2009, 11:48 PM

if you get the complete package in either the 2.0t or 3.8...the brakes, wheels and styling bits are exactly the same.
Whoops. In that case I could have the extra power without having to void my warranty.

SpEcRv9

03-23-2009, 11:50 PM

ill make it easy for you lol

Quote:
- 2.0T ( 6 speed)- $19,700
- 2.0T (automatic) - $20907
- 2.0T Premium (6 speed)- $22,111
- 2.0T Premium (automatic) - $23317
- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only) - $24725
- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only) -

- 3.8 V6 (6 speed) - $26517
- 3.8 V6 (ZF auto) - $27963
- 3.8 Grand Touring - $28124
- 3.8 Track - $29569

Originally Posted by dealer press release info

"Genesis sedan has set a new benchmark for the $35,000-$40,000 premium sedan, and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe segment," Krafcik said. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure intercooled 4-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8 Track model with an estimated 310-hp and Brembo braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."

There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:
- 2.0T
- 2.0T Premium
- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
- 3.8
- 3.8 Grand Touring
- 3.8 Track

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:

- 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
- M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
- 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
- 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
- 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
- Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
- Strut brace
- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
- Active front head restraints
- Driver's lumbar support
- Black-out front lower fascia
- Trip computer
- Air conditioning
- Satin silver and chrome interior accents
- Keyless entry system
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
- Steering wheel audio controls
- Cruise control
- Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
- Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
- Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)

The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
- Power driver seat
- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
- Smart Key with push-button start
- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
- Sunroof
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
- Aluminum pedals
- Aero windshield wipers
- Rear spoiler
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Fog lamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
- Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track

Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
- 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
- 6-speed manual transmission
- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
- Active front head restraints
- Driver's lumbar support
- Air conditioning
- Keyless entry system
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
- Projector beam headlamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
- Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR - A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS

Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
- 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top speed of 149 mph
- M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
- Black leather seats
- Fully automatic temperature control
- Premium door sill plates
- Chrome front fascia accents

In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
- Unique brown leather seat interior environment
- Power driver seat
- Heated driver and passenger seat
- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
- Smart Key with push-button start
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
- Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
- Backup warning system
- Sunroof
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
- Black leather seats
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Aluminum pedals
- Aero windshield wipers
- Rear spoiler
- Black-out front lower fascia
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Fog lamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
- Karussell White
- Bathurst Black
- Silverstone
- Nordschleife Gray
- Acqua Minerale Blue
- Tsukuba Red
- Mirabeau Blue
- Lime Rock Green
- Interlagos Yellow

c7scayman

03-23-2009, 11:50 PM

I like the car, but upset with the weight. That 4 cylinder Turbo Genesis Coupe is actually slower than a GTI or Civic Si because of the weight.

SpEcRv9

03-23-2009, 11:52 PM

cars will never be as light as they used to be....too many safety requirements and added crap these days...I doubt any NEW production car will ever be under 3k lbs, especially any car with any kind of power. The days of light cars like that are over.

CleanNeon98

03-23-2009, 11:57 PM

cars will never be as light as they used to be....too many safety requirements and added crap these days...I doubt any new production car will ever be under 3k lbs, especially any car with any kind of power.
I was going to argue that until you edited in the last part. There are still a ton of FUN cars out there that don't have a ton of power.

c7scayman

03-23-2009, 11:59 PM

true dat, 2009 Porsche Cayman S has 320HP and weighs less than 3000lbs.

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 12:07 AM

true dat, 2009 Porsche Cayman S has 320HP and weighs less than 3000lbs.

okay, yes there are lighter cars than 3k...but seriously if we're gonna argue about a car thats 2900lbs...I'll just say the driver makes up that weight and puts that car over 3000lbs... :mrgreen:

my statement I should have phrased better...cars will never be as light as WE want them to be.

sure, the genesis coupe and many other cars we own could be lighter if it was made with lighter materials...but then the price would be higher..

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:10 AM

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 12:12 AM

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 12:14 AM

thats better.

There is the lotus elise, but it is too expensive.
The MX-5 is gaining weight with every new model.

The next 240sx and other popular lightweight coupes will be much heavier when they make them in the future.
If I ever work for some car manufacturer and design a car, it will have to weigh less than 2500lbs.

My current car weighs 2354 lbs. Eventhough it has about 80HP. It is lots of fun.
The elise can be had used rather cheap. The MX5 gains weight and also gains power so the overall performance generally stays the same aside from the cars being made softer (suspension wise).

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:14 AM

yeah I read that, but I think they are just putting it on hold until the economy gets better just like Acura with the NSX and Toyota/Subaru with their planned RWD turbo coupes.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 12:16 AM

yeah I read that, but I think they are just putting it on hold until the economy gets better just like Acura with the NSX and Toyota/Subaru with their planned RWD turbo coupes.
Ehh...dunno how I feel about that one...I guess I'm just so used to them being AWD.

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:19 AM

Ehh...dunno how I feel about that one...I guess I'm just so used to them being AWD.

yeah, but at least it will be much easier to drift a Subaru.
I read that it would have the WRX engine with 225-265HP in both Subaru and Toyota version of the car. It should be a very fun car.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 12:20 AM

yeah, but at least it will be much easier to drift a Subaru.
I read that it would have the WRX engine with 225-265HP in both Subaru and Toyota version of the car. It should be a very fun car.
How so?

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:21 AM

More new info in Genesis. Just updated on edmunds 10 min ago.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/03/il-track-tested-2010-camaro-v6-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2.*

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=144746?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:22 AM

How so?

Since it is RWD, it will be much easier to drift.

You need more power to make an AWD drift. I think.

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 12:24 AM

lol wut? you dont drift awd....

btw that subaru/toyota concept I believe was cancelled but they decided to turn it into the new celica IIRC reading it somewhere. (dont know how legit the article I read was)

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 12:25 AM

Since it is RWD, it will be much easier to drift.

You need more power to make an AWD drift. I think.
You made it sound like it would be easier to drift a RWD subaru than _____, which I didn't really understand.

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:27 AM

lol wut? you dont drift awd....

It is possible with enough power.

I have seen a drifting Audi R8 and Nissan GT-R. They just have more power being sent to the rear wheels than to the front.

Something like 80% power to rear and 20% to the front.

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 12:27 AM

It is possible with enough power.

I have seen a drifting Audi R8 and Nissan GT-R. They just have more power being sent to the rear wheels than to the front.

Something like 80% power to rear and 20% to the front.

yes it can be done...but anyone that actually drifts uses RWD...

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:31 AM

yeah.

I saw an orange STI drifting professionally at Formula Drift, but I am not sure if it was AWD or converted to RWD. But that is the only car I have seen in professional drifting that might be AWD. And the Skyline R32-R34 GTR.

Does anyone know if that orange STI in the Formula Drift series was converted to RWD?

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:34 AM

haha, we went off topic here.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 12:35 AM

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:36 AM

yeah thats the one. It was nice.

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 12:41 AM

yes...and any r34 you see drifting is probably converted to rwd too...professional drifting is done with RWD.

and yes, the evo in fast and the furious tokyo drift was converted to rwd.

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 12:44 AM

yes...and any r34 you see drifting is probably converted to rwd too...professional drifting is done with RWD.

and yes, the evo in fast and the furious tokyo drift was converted to rwd.

Off topic. How is the SE-R? I have driven an 04 Spec V and I noticed a lot of torque steer. Has it been reliable so far?
I am thinking of getting one of these:
02-04 Spec V
03 Mazdaspeed Protege
03 Civic Si
02-03 GTI.

ndubz

03-24-2009, 12:47 AM

I went to the dealer the other day and got in one, the interior is sooooooo nice. deff on par or better than the 335i or the G37. It really is nice.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 12:49 AM

I went to the dealer the other day and got in one, the interior is sooooooo nice. deff on par or better than the 335i or the G37. It really is nice.
You always find a way to sound stupid don't you...

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 12:52 AM

I will PM you C7 so we dont go any more off topic

///chrism3

03-24-2009, 12:53 AM

lol wut? you dont drift awd....

says who>?

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 01:02 AM

says who>?

yeah OK, if you wanna argue it you can drift awd, but it makes more sense if you're gonna do it seriously to have a RWD car...

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 01:43 AM

I'm sure it can be done with the right power split, but traditionally drifting is RWD only.

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 01:44 AM

and as soon as those front wheels catch traction

/ drift

ndubz

03-24-2009, 02:06 AM

Ur both correct, the only thing that cant drift is FWD. Honestly, I like AWD drifting, its faster and you can control things a bit better i think. Not that theres anything wrong with RWD. The genesis will make a great drift car once someone strips it out and does all the right stuff to it. Im so glad to see cheap RWD sports cars again. Im so tired of all these torquesteering FailWD cars with all that power going to waste. RWD is performance thru and thru, its about time they got serious with it again.

Renegade_

03-24-2009, 09:10 AM

Ur both correct, the only thing that cant drift is FWD. Honestly, I like AWD drifting, its faster and you can control things a bit better i think.
LOL No. You've never really drifted man, you don't have any strong articulation with AWD in a slide unless you have some crazy diff setup. You need to whip the car into the turn and know exactly what you want to do before you do it - with RWD you can adjust; but not awd.

gary

03-24-2009, 09:22 AM

You can always drift in the rain... I do it in my fwd all the time. =)

OK back to the subject though so which engine would you pick the 3.8 or 2.0T. I love the sound of a Korean V6 but the I4 seems like a very easy engine bay to work on. What do you think?

R22B

03-24-2009, 12:13 PM

Why smoke 2 wheels when you can smoke all 4? ;)

ndubz

03-24-2009, 12:41 PM

^^^^ +1 baby O YEA!!!!!!!!!

Total insanity...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwfg6CvQYk

And idk if what ive done in dry conditions you would consider "drifting" but I was in the Rear diff setting and i got pretty side ways, not for too long though, my front wheels pulled me out, but Ive drifted legit in the snow before and thats a great time :mrgreen:

Vr-4-Life

03-24-2009, 12:59 PM

lamer

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 01:04 PM

ndubz

03-24-2009, 01:08 PM

O my bad, the vid was for breaking all 4 wheels loose not drifting.

Anyway, back on topic. Hyundai is really getting their ish together. The genesis sedan is also quite amazing in its class.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 01:13 PM

Lookie what I found

http://carbl.com/im/2008/11/hyundai-genesis-coupe-1-accident-520x389.jpg

http://carbl.com/im/2008/11/hyundai-genesis-coupe-10-accident.jpg

And look at this...

http://carbl.com/im/2008/11/hyundai-genesis-coupe-11-accident.jpg

The airbags...where are they?! Genesis ftw or great for dying in a slow impact?

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 01:20 PM

gary

03-24-2009, 01:21 PM

may it didn't hit the sensors...

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 01:26 PM

That was the test car that they were testing on the streets and they crashed before they installed airbags. I saw those pics a while ago.
Sounds like a pretty sorry excuse...besides, shouldn't all new(er) cars on the road have air bags? :lol: @ Hyundai fail.

may it didn't hit the sensors...
Are you really going to try and defend that...

BlkWhtTSI

03-24-2009, 01:28 PM

them wheels is gangstaaaa, i really like this car and the turbo model will likely really put hyundai on the map for sporty cars imo even more so than the tibouron

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 01:29 PM

Sounds like a pretty sorry excuse...besides, shouldn't all new(er) cars on the road have air bags? :lol: @ Hyundai fail.

It is true. I read it in an article on topspeed.com that showed a Hyundai test driver crashing that test car. This was months ago before they started selling the car.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 01:32 PM

It is true. I read it in an article on topspeed.com that showed a Hyundai test driver crashing that test car. This was months ago before they started selling the car.
So hyundai crashed it into a pole on public roads on purpose? :lol: riiiight..

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/11/first-hyundai-genesis-coupe-crash-looks.html

c7scayman

03-24-2009, 01:36 PM

So hyundai crashed it into a pole on public roads on purpose? :lol: riiiight..

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/11/first-hyundai-genesis-coupe-crash-looks.html

no, it was an accident. They were testing the ride quality on public roads when the accident happened. sorry for not being clear.

gary

03-24-2009, 01:36 PM

well the passenger airbags are weight controlled so that shouldn't have gone off but the driver's side should have. Who knows what is behind this crash though. It would suck if the airbags were faulty but I am sure we will know soon enough.

OPZ

03-24-2009, 01:51 PM

I sold my auto elantra to a friend of mine, she ended up flipping it on the roof and skidding across the road. The airbags never went off there either...but she crawled out of the car with only a scratch on her hand.

Over on exd there was a lil while where people were getting in wrecks left and right, but the airbags never went off, but they were fine, so they we're doing their job. No needless punching people in the face.

I know in my wreck my side ones did go off...so I know they do work in my car, ha

SpEcRv9

03-24-2009, 02:11 PM

id still rather crash in that thing that a miata. (safety wise)

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 02:16 PM

id still rather crash in that thing that a miata. (safety wise)
They hold up fairly well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFLIY_QIhBA

Besides, I never compared the 2, I just said I don't get why the airbag didn't go off in that crash.

OPZ

03-24-2009, 04:19 PM

They hold up well but total with ease. My friend was rear-ended by someone doing I think like, 10-15 and they totaled it. Just not that much there to play with...so I'd actually rather the bigger-more-****-to-go-thru car styles.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 04:34 PM

Personally if someone hit my car I'd rather have it totalled, I wouldn't want to drive a repaired car.

dragonfly2k3

03-24-2009, 05:20 PM

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 05:23 PM

^^didnt you recently crash it yourself and repair it? Might as well sell it huh?
Also, i noticed you defended the miatas weight gain with a power gain, there is NO replacement for a drop in weight.
No, i would rather not have the airbags go off unless they absolutely HAD TO they terrify me. I am so, so afraid of airbags going off on me, i once set one off in a field, and it was soooo scary. Those ****ers have a TON of power.
There was no damage to my car other than 2 bent rims and a shot alignment, I'm talking about structural/chassis damage. As far as Miatas go, they have retained the same driving attitude from their first day of release, but that's not the discussion here. I've been smacked in the side of the head with an airbag before and it didn't hurt at all, trust me, I'd rather have that than have to pick out my teeth from the steering wheel.

OPZ

03-24-2009, 05:37 PM

There was no damage to my car other than 2 bent rims and a shot alignment, I'm talking about structural/chassis damage. As far as Miatas go, they have retained the same driving attitude from their first day of release, but that's not the discussion here. I've been smacked in the side of the head with an airbag before and it didn't hurt at all, trust me, I'd rather have that than have to pick out my teeth from the steering wheel.

Which you shouldn't have to do as long as your seat belt pretension's work as they should.

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 05:40 PM

Looks like something foul happened to that steering wheel in the Genesis though.

Signatus230

03-24-2009, 06:31 PM

I think its not to bad looking, but its fat, and for the money you are spending not surprising. The interior seems to be nice, exterior isn't bad either. I think the car would be fun to have, but to mod? We'll see what happens when AMS really starts messing with theirs.

Rotary Knight

03-24-2009, 06:34 PM

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 06:38 PM

the airbag looks like it deployed though.
Im guessing the airbags deployed and they put the cover back on and stuff the bags in.
The cover is off the steering wheel, looks like its not on tight, so im guessing it did go off.
No, that's the bent steering wheel...this is how an airbag cover looks like once it's been opened.

http://peymanaghssa.com/Documents/10-17-06_airbag_deployed.jpg

How it would look repaired (approximately)
http://www.elrobinson.ws/images/airbaglg.jpg

gary

03-24-2009, 07:56 PM

This is what Hyundai airbags look liek when deployed. 3K for a new dash pad. No you will not be able to stuff them back in
http://gsnyder.info/bio/crash7.jpg

dragonfly2k3

03-24-2009, 10:59 PM

CleanNeon98

03-24-2009, 11:01 PM

lol, cleanneon, im not giong to argue this with you, there is no reasonable way to compensate for a gain in weight. Sure, you can add more power and add bigger brakes, but you cant change the increase in momentum in turns.
I've driven every gen Miata, in just about every trim and variation, and believe me, they all have the same perky handling. I didn't get out of an NA into an NC and go "man this car feels heavier than the other one". The handling differences between the years are fairly minor, to the point where the average driver wouldn't really notice. Still waiting to kick a Genesis around.

bjune

03-25-2009, 12:32 PM

stop, please stop posting. Your posts make my brain hurt. The grammar is just awful. I cant take it!

I love the coupe, and i think by this point every company borrows styling from something.

dude i can care less about you or your brain if u dont agree with the way i post tougth s**t

PhillyLS1

03-26-2009, 10:22 PM

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/03/il-track-tested-2010-camaro-v6-vs-2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html

more info

CleanNeon98

03-26-2009, 10:26 PM

LOL Golden.

SpEcRv9

03-26-2009, 10:37 PM

i'd still get the genesis simply because the new camaro is turrible looking.

240sxDann

03-29-2009, 07:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_UN0cvXr7g

'nuff said!!! I want one! :mrgreen:

Rotary Knight

03-29-2009, 10:18 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_UN0cvXr7g

'nuff said!!! I want one! :mrgreen:

holy crap, all that power from just a turbo upgrade, from a 4cyl?
Damn. Thats about a 180 hp increase from the stock rwhp isnt it?

gary

03-29-2009, 10:20 PM

Yea a GT30R + tune + full exhaust + other little bits = $2500 to $3000
I wouldn't call that just a turbo upgrade but definitely impressive

PhillyLS1

03-30-2009, 06:27 AM

Yea a GT30R + tune + full exhaust + other little bits = $2500 to $3000
I wouldn't call that just a turbo upgrade but definitely impressive
Right. But it's the parts around it that need to hold up. We'll see!

I know one thing... that exhaust sounded like ass

ricky2i5

03-30-2009, 11:19 AM

eh....

DocWalt

03-30-2009, 02:52 PM

http://jalopnik.com/5189896/2010-hyundai-genesis-coupe-first-drive

Sounds good. I really want to take one for a test drive, just to see how nice they are, even just on the street.

dpk777

04-01-2009, 01:23 PM

hyundai FTW

sisforsurfing

04-01-2009, 01:42 PM

3,294 lbs for the 2.0 turbo? Nice! Not a lightweight by any means, but not bad for a new car and way better than the ~3500 previously mentioned.

i_ride_fieroGT

04-02-2009, 09:14 AM

Theres a yellow one at where I work. im staring right at it and drooling.

arkadyzv

04-02-2009, 12:11 PM

240sxDann

04-02-2009, 01:16 PM

As far as the V6 Camaro comparison, as far as enthusiasts go, I think there's more stigma with buying a non V8 Camaro then there is driving a Hyundai.

I agree. You can't really compare the two, they are two totally different categories of cars. The genesis is meant to be a quick little, good handling sport coupe. The V6 camaro is meant to be for the people who want a camaro but can't afford a V8 model. It's not really meant to be a sports car, IMO.

gary

04-02-2009, 01:21 PM

The way that Hyundai has made their current image is by making cars that are just as good as the competition or almost as good but for less. The car is porky, but so is everything else these days, people seem to forget that Hyundai's intent for this car is the poor mans G35/37. At the end of the day, its seems to have a potent drivetrain, two good engine choices, its rwd, and has the option for an lsd and good brakes all for a very cheap price.Thus the reason for everyone's excitement, a new car that's not that expensive but is boosted , rwd and has proper crap on it for under 25k.

Is it as good as the competition? maybe , maybe not, the whole point is that its almost as good, or good enough but cheaper, thats been their whole strategy. The best thing about it is, that if it does well and it should, there will be more cheap rwd cars on the market and that's a plus for everyone.

As far as the V6 Camaro comparison, as far as enthusiasts go, I think there's more stigma with buying a non V8 Camaro then there is driving a Hyundai.

That is probably the most well put together summery of the Coupe I have ever read.

ndubz

04-02-2009, 01:25 PM

^^^ +1

And also, isnt the V6 Camaro like 3700+lbs?

sisforsurfing

04-02-2009, 01:41 PM

Is it as good as the competition? maybe , maybe not, the whole point is that its almost as good, or good enough but cheaper, thats been their whole strategy. The best thing about it is, that if it does well and it should, there will be more cheap rwd cars on the market and that's a plus for everyone.

Very well said. And they're doing well (relative to everyone else, at least) because of it.

i_ride_fieroGT

04-02-2009, 03:04 PM

I agree. You can't really compare the two, they are two totally different categories of cars. The genesis is meant to be a quick little, good handling sport coupe. The V6 camaro is meant to be for the people who want a camaro but can't afford a V8 model. It's not really meant to be a sports car, IMO.

ehhhhh i wouldent say that. iv herd the new camaro V6 is going to be pumpin out a lil more than 300 ponies.

dave2610

04-02-2009, 04:03 PM

not sold on the genesis yet if it holds up over time ill give hyudai some props

i_ride_fieroGT

04-03-2009, 10:56 AM

the talk of a 4 cylinder camaro a few months back made me sick though.

ezdrummer

04-03-2009, 11:55 AM

just tinted one today..not bad

240sxDann

04-03-2009, 12:05 PM

ehhhhh i wouldent say that. iv herd the new camaro V6 is going to be pumpin out a lil more than 300 ponies.

yea but (I haven't looked at specs or anything so this is just assumption) I'd assume the V6 isn't going to have nearly the handling capabilities of the SS model, so sure it'll be pretty quick, but again, its a BIG car, and it is probably going to be somewhat of a boat in the handling department.

blinkme323

04-03-2009, 05:42 PM

Yeah, the Camaro V6 is huge, it weighs about 3800 pounds.

kmartizdatruth

04-03-2009, 07:07 PM

just save and buy an evo

NOPSTNS

04-04-2009, 04:05 AM

The way that Hyundai has made their current image is by making cars that are just as good as the competition or almost as good but for less. The car is porky, but so is everything else these days, people seem to forget that Hyundai's intent for this car is the poor mans G35/37. At the end of the day, its seems to have a potent drivetrain, two good engine choices, its rwd, and has the option for an lsd and good brakes all for a very cheap price.Thus the reason for everyone's excitement, a new car that's not that expensive but is boosted , rwd and has proper crap on it for under 25k.

Is it as good as the competition? maybe , maybe not, the whole point is that its almost as good, or good enough but cheaper, thats been their whole strategy. The best thing about it is, that if it does well and it should, there will be more cheap rwd cars on the market and that's a plus for everyone.

As far as the V6 Camaro comparison, as far as enthusiasts go, I think there's more stigma with buying a non V8 Camaro then there is driving a Hyundai.

i now have no reason to post. perfectly stated. i think most ppl would rather own a cool hyunda than a camaro thats ONLY a v6. haha

underneath the skin its not so great, front struts and 3300lbs or whatever is just wrong. the 4 cyl for its size doesnt need to be over 3,000 and it needed double wishbone fronts.

other than that, 23k for the r spec turbo, where do i sign?

i want to test drive one so bad, but hyundai wont meet me at laguna seca....

NOPSTNS

04-04-2009, 04:06 AM

just save and buy an evo

coming from an evo owner.....that comment means alot :roll:

and hyundai didnt make the genesis saying " we r gonna kick the **** outta evos!"

id put the v6 model against the mustang camaro and g37. the 4 cyl is in its own territory since no one else makes a checp rwd 4 cyl.

and by the way, that 4B11 engine sure does look pretty sittin in hyundais engine bays.....at least they knew to mount it in the proper position....

Honduh

04-04-2009, 09:37 AM

The only genesis that matters:

http://www.geocities.com/compcloset/SegaGenesis1.jpg

frosti108

04-04-2009, 11:58 AM

i drove a black v6 model :) it wasnt a stick, but it did have the paddles ... i really like the car. anyone else notice the paddles being retarded though? they didnt press back towards you, you have to sorta press them away from you. didnt work out at all. so i just used the tip tronic thing with the shifter

the car is definitely quick, I wanted to bust out some drifts, but I would probably have gotten fired haha

DocWalt

04-04-2009, 01:33 PM

You have to push the paddles away? Ewww.

sisforsurfing

04-04-2009, 01:39 PM

You have to push the paddles away? Ewww.

Who cares? Automatic transmission in general = ewww.

NOPSTNS, well said. I need to drive one.

frosti108

04-04-2009, 01:48 PM

You have to push the paddles away? Ewww.

yea im not sure if someone like assembled it wrong or something... lol
i swear though, i was like trying to reach in with my thumbs or like reach around the steering wheel to do it... something was just not right about it.

i sat in the GTR and now that thing had the right kind of paddles lol

blinkme323

04-04-2009, 08:13 PM

Must have been set up wrong or something, the paddles definitely press towards you.

DocWalt

04-04-2009, 11:13 PM

Who cares? Automatic transmission in general = ewww.

NOPSTNS, well said. I need to drive one.

Well, yes, but still, anything to make it better is fine by me. From what I remembered from the auto show, they pulled towards you, but I couldn't remember.

OPZ

04-05-2009, 12:53 AM

From what I've read the paddles actually can go either way. It just depends where you press them. Higher up I think it presses away, and lower on it its towards, I'm not exactly 100% on this.

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:03 PM

Here is everything in PDF format:
http://www.thefeetofjesus.com/images/gencoupe/HyundaiGenesisCoupeUSspec.pdf

"While some turbochargers sacrifice smooth drivability with high operating boost pressures in the 20 psi range, Genesis Coupe uses a refined, low-boost calibration for smoothness and efficiency," said Derek Joyce, Genesis Coupe product manager. "We could have opted solely for big performance numbers, but our focus for the 2.0T was a more balanced package."

GENESIS COUPE PRODUCT HIGHLIGHTS
With the start of U.S. market production now just a few months away, Hyundai Motor America is releasing model configuration and color choices for the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.

"Genesis sedan has set a new benchmark for the $35,000-$40,000 premium sedan, and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe segment," Krafcik said. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure intercooled 4-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8 Track model with an estimated 310-hp and Brembo braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."

There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:
- 2.0T
- 2.0T Premium
- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
- 3.8
- 3.8 Grand Touring
- 3.8 Track

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:
- 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
- M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
- 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
- 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
- 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
- Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
- Strut brace
- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
- Active front head restraints
- Driver’s lumbar support
- Black-out front lower fascia
- Trip computer
- Air conditioning
- Satin silver and chrome interior accents
- Keyless entry system
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
- Steering wheel audio controls
- Cruise control
- Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
- Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
- Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)

The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
- Power driver seat
- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
- Smart Key with push-button start
- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
- Sunroof
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
- Aluminum pedals
- Aero windshield wipers
- Rear spoiler
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Fog lamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
- Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track

Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
- 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
- 6-speed manual transmission
- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
- Active front head restraints
- Driver’s lumbar support
- Air conditioning
- Keyless entry system
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
- Projector beam headlamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
- Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR – A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
- 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top speed of 149 mph
- M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
- Black leather seats
- Fully automatic temperature control
- Premium door sill plates
- Chrome front fascia accents

In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
- Unique brown leather seat interior environment
- Power driver seat
- Heated driver and passenger seat
- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
- Smart Key with push-button start
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
- Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
- Backup warning system
- Sunroof
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
- Black leather seats
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Aluminum pedals
- Aero windshield wipers
- Rear spoiler
- Black-out front lower fascia
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Fog lamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
- Karussell White
- Bathurst Black
- Silverstone
- Nordschleife Gray
- Acqua Minerale Blue
- Tsukuba Red
- Mirabeau Blue
- Lime Rock Green
- Interlagos Yellow

Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:
- Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium, R-Spec)
- Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction red cloth insert (2.0T Track)
- Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)
- Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)

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http://www.claneot.com/images/hanav1.jpg

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:03 PM

Ladies always get all hot and bothered when I walk by:
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Not sure what's going on here.....

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pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:04 PM

This looks a bit like a Aston Martin or a Jag in the rear with these wheels?:gtfoslap:

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DocWalt

04-10-2009, 08:04 PM

What the hell is that hideous beast behind the Genesis in that first picture? edit: under that tent thing. Not the ladies :lol:

The day I see a Genesis with a FMIC like that, I'll jizz in my pants.

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:05 PM

Its a Mitsubishi turbo. So I am guessing any evo turbo could theoretically bolt on?
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Micky D's have delivery in Korea:wtf:

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pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:05 PM

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pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:06 PM

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pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:06 PM

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I think I would probably take the grill out too:

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pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:07 PM

chop but hot

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pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:08 PM

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OFFSET
8.5j 22 9.5j 22

TIRES
Bridgestone Potenza re01 245 35 19
Bridgestone Potenza re01 275 35 19

You read that right.

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Genesis coupe with new exhaust and takeoff.

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqizKbVPiT0&eurl=http://www.gencoupe.com/general-discussion/7551-gen-coupe-video-full-takeoff.html&feature=player_embedded

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prototype stage 1 setting

Bolt on
intake
exhaust
coilovers and shocks.
Est time for full production of parts: 2 -3 months

Edmunds actually flew over to SK to test drive the genesis coupe.

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Epic Roads, World-Class Ride

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:14 PM

By Ben Barry, Contributor Email
Date posted: 01-04-2009

It's 5 a.m. in South Korea and we slip downstairs in the dark from our motel room in Uljin to the underground parking garage. We point the key fob into the blackness and a car's soft interior lighting illuminates a sumptuous leather cabin. Headlights cast a glow, highlighting aggressive character lines that cut across purposeful bodywork.

We're drooling over a Hyundai, for heaven's sake. It's the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe. We load the gear into the surprisingly accommodating trunk, slip into the chilly cockpit and press the starter button. We're looking forward to this. Really looking forward to it.

In 10 minutes time, we'll be carving a piece of Korean blacktop that's every bit as epic as the very best roads in the world. It's the Bulryeong Valley, an amazing route that starts on Korea's picturesque east coast and reaches into the country's mountainous heart.

It'll be a real test, a mustard-cutting exercise for the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe that will prove whether the Koreans can make a genuine world-class sport coupe.

World-Class Rear-Wheel-Drive
This is the 2010 Genesis Coupe, the two-door version of the rear-wheel-drive car that has won Hyundai grudging respect at last from the world's luxury carmakers. At its core, this top-line Genesis SE coupe is powered by Hyundai's 32-valve, 3.8-liter Lambda V6, which produces 299 horsepower at 6,300 rpm and delivers 266 pound-feet of torque at 4,700 rpm. A ZF-built 6HP26 six-speed transmission sends the power to the rear wheels.

This car looks substantial in person, measuring 182.3 inches long, 73.4 inches wide and 54.3 inches tall. The wheelbase is commensurately long at 111 inches. The suspension setup includes MacPherson struts up front, while a five-link independent arrangement controls the rear wheels. If the V6 is in place, the Genesis coupe weighs in at 3,549 pounds; if the turbocharged, intercooled, 212-hp 2.9-liter inline-4 is doing business under the hood, the car weighs 3,439 pounds.

There are three trim levels: entry-level GS with turbo inline-4; the GT with the V6; and the high-performance SE with a sport-tuned suspension, Brembo brakes and 19-inch tires matched to either the four- or six-cylinder.

Leaving Uljin
We turn off Highway 5, burble through still-sleeping villages, then start to climb into the hills that tower above. The road to Yeongju is smooth, fairly wide and bordered by guardrails and catch fencing. Sweeping corners outnumber straights 10 to one. It's like we've found our own private racetrack.

Even in this demanding environment, the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe still delivers. It grips so hard at the front that you wonder if there is actually a Korean word for understeer, then encourages you to get on the gas early and put all 299 hp to use at the rear. Again there's grip from the 19-inch rear tires, yet there's a lightness and deft poise that makes for an immensely satisfying and extremely manageable flow from one apex to the next.

The SE package's big brakes never lose their bite, thanks to 13.4-inch rotors in front and 13-inch rotors in the rear, both with four-piston Brembo calipers. Meanwhile, the V6's large reserve of torque is always on hand to haul you fuss-free from tight turns. Then it hits me. The 2010 Genesis Coupe feels exactly like the Infiniti G37 — the hollow warble of the V6, the chassis balance, and the light and linear steering. We have never driven one car that feels so much like another. And to think it used to be the Japanese who imitated the Americans and Europeans.

Seoul Man
Two days earlier we were sitting in the Grand Hyatt Hotel in Seoul, listening to Western businessmen discuss deals with their Korean counterparts while looking out at a parking drive marked by Mercedes-Benz SLs and the odd Porsche 911 GT3. Out of the window, this city of 10 million bathes in misty smog, and a tangle of traffic jostles into the distance. Such a familiar view doesn't seem to promise the new driving experiences and taste of a foreign culture that brought us to Korea.

As we set off into traffic in the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, we remember the advice of our Korean guidebooks, with the usual limp-wristed attitude of "driving in Seoul is crazy, man; take the bus." But the signs have English translations and it's not so bad as long as you have a basic idea of where you're heading and aren't expecting everyone to conduct themselves as if they're in a driver training video. Koreans are aggressive, but there's also an acceptance that you'll be aggressive, too.

Outpunching the Nissan VQ V6?
It's surely no coincidence that this 3,778cc V6 outpunches the Nissan VQ V6 by about 100cc. We're slightly perturbed to see we've landed the six-speed automatic instead of the standard six-speed manual, but the six-speed slusher is a blessing in traffic — smooth, fairly quick and hassle-free. The lack of shifter paddles on the steering wheel feels odd in a car so sporting, though. At least Sport mode holds the gear to the engine's redline and asks that you press the accelerator farther before it will kick down a gear.

We stick on Highway 4 and make for Hongcheon, impressed by the quality of the roads and amazed by how much of the Korean GDP must be spent on bridge-building projects. Some 70 percent of the country is mountainous, so there's a lot of fresh air to span. But it's taking a long time to get anywhere at the mandatory speed limit of 80 km/h (50 mph). At first we toe the line, perturbed by how few Korean drivers are willing to exceed the speed limit as well as by ubiquitous photo radar installations. But since there's zero police presence and the speed cameras are easy to spot, we settle in to a more reasonable 160 km/h (100 mph).

Even at this pace there's barely any wind noise in the Genesis coupe and tire noise is well suppressed except on the kind of concrete-paved sections you get on U.S. freeways. It's a nice cruiser, and a nice place to be. Even the soft-touch dash plastics exude quality — though the indicator stalks and charmless center console let the side down.

On the outskirts of Hongcheon the roadsides become a chaotic mix of LPG stations, single-story dwellings with tatty breezeblock walls and lunchtime eateries. A wide, slow-flowing river cuts through town and fishermen crouch peacefully at its sandy banks. But, like all the Korean towns we see, Hongcheon feels bland and reconstructed post-Korean War with too much haste and too little thought to the people who live there. So we push on through the Taebaek mountain range in search of Seoraksan National Park.

Touring Seoraksan
We hoped the road across Seoraksan's craggy granite hillsides and densely forested slopes would make for a spectacular drive. And it does, only it's a 30-mph drive. This is a key tourist destination and since there's pretty much just one road that everyone uses, it's packed on a Friday. Overtaking is forbidden, so we sit it out with the tourists and admire the fall-season trees with their golden yellows and rust-colored reds and deep greens.

Our enforced amble does highlight a flaw, because the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe rides badly, as its damping lacks the supple polish of the best all-around sporting coupes. Probably the SE package's front 225/40R19 and rear 245/40R19 Hankook tires don't help. The trick for Hyundai would be in maintaining the excellence of the handling, while underpinning it with more comfort. Perhaps a trip to Lotus Engineering, a longtime collaborator with Hyundai for suspension calibration in the past, would be in order.

On Saturday morning, we point the Hyundai toward the border with North Korea and away from the tourist buses that relentlessly stream into the park. So far the tension between North and South Korea has seemed pretty distant, but the standoff starts to feel very real indeed as we run along the east coast. Beautiful beaches and calm waters lie entirely empty, an uninterrupted length of fencing topped with razor wire preventing any access to anyone. Fencing and military lookout points ensure tourists go no farther, and even a river inlet is fenced end-to-end to its deepest depths.

Then a few kilometers away from the demilitarized zone (DMZ) that separates the two countries, things start to get really strange. A man with a pink baton waves us into a parking lot and we're asked to buy a ticket. They've turned the DMZ into a tourist attraction! There's popcorn and slush-puppy drinks and the kind of tourist crap you'd get at Coney Island (if it hadn't been torn down recently, that is). At a lookout point, a line of 30 or so coin-operated telescopes are trained toward the North under a tattered awning sponsored by Fuji Film. This is a very strange vibe indeed.

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:17 PM

The Modern Korean Car
The Koreans have had to work damn hard to rebuild their country from the ashes of war. The work ethic continues to this day. As one English executive on assignment here tells us, "If they need to do a job, they'll work 18-hour days until it's done."

Fifty years on and the hard graft is paying off. Hyundai together with Kia represents the world's fifth-largest car manufacturer with a 70 percent share of its domestic market and growing respect in Europe. And today, with the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe, the company has built a truly world-class product.

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InsideLine retests V6 Genesis Coupe after lackluster numbers

A couple weeks ago we ran a full test on the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe V6 Track. It ran respectable numbers, but not the kind of times we expected from a 300+ horsepower, rear-wheel drive coupe of its size.

Hyundai was disappointed too. So they went through the car following our track session looking for answers. What Hyundai's engineers found was a rear wheel alignment that was off spec and worn front tires paired with new rears.

Another problem was the car's ECU. It was programmed for damage control, not 0-to-60mph runs, so it was cutting power when it was needed most. We complained about this system in the test article and were sure the car would accelerate quicker if the damage control system was backed off a bit.

Hyundai agreed and made a running change to the ECU that keeps it from cutting in during fast shifts. Hyundai is fast at work reflashing all the cars now at dealers and at the port (If you're one of the few that has already bought a Genesis Coupe, call your dealer and they'll reflash your car for free). They also offered to mount some new tires and made sure they were pointed straight too.

Then they asked if we wouldn't mind running the car again. We said yes. Did it help?

Comparison Test: 2010 Genesis Coupe V6 Track vs. 2009 Infiniti G37 Coupe

Acceleration
Genesis Coupe 3.8L V6 Track (2/10/09)
0-30 (sec.): 2.4
0-45 (sec.): 4.3
0-60 (sec.): 6.4
0-75 (sec.): 9.0
1/4 mile (sec @ mph): 14.5@97.9
0-60 (sec.): (w/rollout) 6.1

Genesis Coupe 3.8L V6 Track (3/10/09)
0-30 (sec.): 2.2
0-45 (sec.): 3.9
0-60 (sec.): 5.9
0-75 (sec.): 8.4
1/4 mile (sec @ mph): 14.1@99.3
0-60 (sec.): (w/rollout) 5.7

Infiniti G37S 3.7L V6 (2/10/09)
0-30 (sec.): 2.4
0-45 (sec.): 3.9
0-60 (sec.): 5.7
0-75 (sec.): 8.2
1/4 mile (sec @ mph): 13.9@101.4
0-60 (sec.): (w/rollout) 5.4

Braking
60mph-0 (ft.):
111ft - GenCoupe (2/10/09)
111ft - GenCoupe (3/10/09)
110ft - G37S Coupe (2/10/09)

30mph-0 (ft.):
28ft - GenCoupe (2/10/09)
27ft - GenCoupe (3/10/09)
28ft - G37S Coupe (2/10/09)

Handling
Slalom (mph):
68.2mph - GenCoupe (2/10/09)
69.0mph - GenCoupe (3/10/09)
69.7mph - G37S Coupe (2/10/09)

Skidpad(g):
.88g GenCoupe (2/10/09)
.87g GenCoupe (3/10/09)
.85g G37S Coupe (2/10/09)

Burgeoning Beauty vs. Proven Performer
By Josh Jacquot, Senior Road Test Editor

Check out the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 vs. 2009 Infiniti G37 Coupe Dyno Test

The list of six-cylinder sport coupes that actually matter is a short one. Let's face it, until now it's been BMW 335i and Infiniti G37. And then, about two weeks ago, Hyundai dropped a bomb. A big one.

It's called the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.

And all of a sudden, the Korean carmaker — whose previous attempts at "sporty" included machines like the unenviable Scoupe and the forgettable first-generation Tiburon — has thrust itself into the spotlight with a car that at once looks good and has the specs to do the deed. Three hundred horsepower. Six-speed manual transmission. Rear-wheel drive. Limited-slip differential. So put that in your Scoupe pipe and smoke it. Here comes a real car.

Sounds remarkably like the territory of the 2009 Infiniti G37, doesn't it? And it is. In every way except price. So there's your comparison test.

It'll Run Ya

If you've read our full test of the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8, then you know it's a solid machine with ample power, gorgeous styling and a low price. A really low price.

For $29,500 you can have yours with a 3.8-liter V6 and the Track package, which adds a stiffer suspension, a Torsen limited-slip differential, Brembo brakes and 19-inch wheels. A six-speed manual transmission is standard equipment and our test car has one. Complete with its floor mats, iPod connector and destination fee, it costs $30,375. This number, by the way, is $6,625 less than the base price of the Infiniti G37.

But let's not rule the G37 out of the game just yet. It has proven itself to be a sufficiently bad-ass machine by winning multiple comparison tests in sedan form and remaining a favorite among editors here at IL.

Our G37 test car piled on the options: a $3,200 Premium package added a Bose audio system, memory driver seat, Bluetooth and other amenities. The Navigation package added $2,200, the rear spoiler $550 and illuminated door-sill plates another $330.

The grand total for the 2009 Infiniti G37, which also had a six-speed manual, totaled $44,095 with destination. Cha-ching.

Specs Face Off

Let's not mess around; the price of entry for both of these machines is considerable. The G37's is just far more considerable, that's all. But the Infiniti also has the more impressive specs of the two. Its 3.7-liter V6 is rated at 330 horsepower and 270 pound-feet of torque. It has huge 19-inch wheels and sticky Bridgestone Potenza summer tires, plus fixed four-piston brake calipers are matched with 14-inch front rotors.

But the Genesis holds its own on paper with 306 hp and 266 lb-ft of torque from its own 3.8-liter V6. It, too, comes with 19-inch wheels and the same Bridgestone summer tires, and four-piston Brembo calipers are up front with 13.4-inch rotors.

So are G37's extra amenities, power and proven platform enough to better a competitor which both in-person and on paper appears to have it covered in most critical arenas?

That's what we pondered as we drove both cars for two weeks. We slid them around wet roads, spun dyno rollers and sliced through slalom cones — we even squeezed into their cramped backseats. Before it all began, we decided price and performance would weigh equally on the outcome of this test (25 percent each). The rest would be down to feature content (15 percent), our subjective evaluation score (15 percent), fuel economy (15 percent) and editors' picks (5 percent).

On the Road

If this contest were boiled down to the driving experience alone, the win would go to the 2009 Infiniti G37. It is the better driving car. Its suspension offers a better compromise between a comfortable ride and crisp handling, its engine is better suited to the character of a sport coupe, and all its controls provide better feel and response. Even its steering, which at first seems to be artificially cursed with too much effort, comes alive at speed to inform its driver precisely how much cornering grip remains at the front tires. It's a well-refined formula that Nissan has nailed on all its FM-platform cars.

The Infiniti's VQ-Series engine is the big selling point here. With a ripping 7,600-rpm redline, it's living large at high speed rather than just surviving (an impression we'd verify later at the dyno). This kind of power delivery is better suited for hard driving than the grunty mill in the Genesis. Start singing up a mountain road with the G-machine and you'll find yourself at high rpm early and often. And you'll want an engine that's comfortable there.

Perhaps the only area where the 2009 Infiniti G37 falls short relative to the Genesis is in the use of a viscous limited-slip differential. Slower reacting and therefore less predictable than the Torsen LSD in the Genesis, the G's viscous unit simply isn't as effective as it should be in a platform this capable.

Yet there's no denying that the Genesis is very, very good. Enough so, in fact, that most drivers wouldn't miss the G37's added dimension of communication unless they'd had a back-to-back run with the Hyundai. The steering and brakes of the Genesis coupe lack the G37's immediacy, but nonetheless offer ample confidence. Its shifter isn't as bolt-action precise, but we never missed a shift.

And its 3.8-liter engine, well, there's the heart of a minivan under the coupe's sloping hood and we can't pretend otherwise. We swear there's still a little Kia Sedona in its otherwise throaty intake note, which sounds far better than the G's raspy howl. But let's not forget, this Korean engine is fractionally bigger than the Infiniti's mill. The Genesis' V6 makes ample yank right off idle and equals or exceeds the G's engine in power and torque production until 4,800 rpm according to the Dynojet chassis dyno at MD Automotive in Westminster, California.

Where the BS Stops

At the test track the 2010 Hyundai Genesis proves itself a worthy entry into the sport coupe segment by giving the pricier Infiniti a run in several categories. First, the Genesis tips the scales at just 3,488 pounds — 221 pounds lighter than the G37. Porkiness has long been a valid gripe about any car built on Nissan's FM platform and the G is no exception.

But being lightweight didn't help the Genesis coupe accelerate as quickly as we had hoped. The Genesis hit 60 mph from a standstill in 6.4 seconds (6.1 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) and went through the traps at the quarter-mile mark in 14.5 seconds at 97.9 mph. That's considerably slower than the G37's 5.7-second run to 60 mph (5.4 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip) and its quarter-mile performance of 13.9 seconds at 101.4 mph.

Accelerating the Genesis quickly can be tricky because of a drivetrain protection feature built into its engine calibration. Shift the Genesis coupe aggressively at redline and you'll occasionally experience a power cut in your target gear which lasts 3 seconds.

The problem is exacerbated by the car's tachometer, which doesn't keep up with the engine speed in the first few gears, so it's too easy to run the engine to its 6,800-rpm maximum speed (redline is 6,500 rpm). Hyundai says the drivetrain protection is triggered at 6,800 rpm, but once it intervened, we experienced a power reduction in the next gear at much lower engine speeds. Run this V6 to the rev limiter in any given gear and it will hang there comfortably. But if you shift hard and quickly at the indicated redline, you'll occasionally be punished with that cut in power.

Hyundai is considering a new calibration, but there are cars going on sale that incorporate this 3-second power intervention, a feature that can punish drivers at engine speeds well below redline. Some people won't notice it, but to others it could be a deal breaker in the purchase of a Genesis 3.8 coupe.

The Handling Story

Throttle inputs can be used to adjust the cornering attitude of both coupes around the skid pad, but the Torsen differential in the Genesis makes these adjustments quicker and inspires more confidence while doing so. The Torsen diff also gives the Hyundai better lateral grip than the G37, with a 0.88g performance on the skid pad versus 0.85g for the G37.

Through the slalom, the G37's heavier steering offers high-resolution feedback, which helps making prudent decisions at speed easy. But the Genesis has better body roll control and provides more than enough feedback to sense its limits. The Infiniti is quicker at 69.7 mph vs. the Genesis coupe's 68.2-mph run.

The real story here is bigger than the numbers. Drive these cars back-to-back over the same section of road and you'll find them similarly capable. You'll squeeze more speed out of one exiting a corner yet find the other more confident going in. You'll learn to love the G37's instant brake response and then fall for the Genesis' more relaxed but equally confident pedal action. Going quickly in the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe is a product of its guttural grunt, intuitive feel and textbook rear-drive balance. By comparison, the Infiniti is more anxious, more precise and more immediate.

In this case, both approaches work well. But if we were going to split hairs, we'd say that the 2009 Infiniti G37 makes a bigger sacrifice in daily driving where its heavy steering and immediate brake response seem unnecessary and, at times, awkward. But then we'd have to tell you that the Genesis coupe's engine mounts are too soft, so its big V6 flops around way too much during quick shifts or rapid throttle transitions, creating intrusive drivetrain lash. But we won't do that because we genuinely like the way both cars are tuned.

pharnhyte

04-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Living Inside and Out

Hyundai's interior quality and design are a step up from many comparably priced cars, but when compared to a machine as costly as the G37 it's sometimes clear where the corners were cut.

The G37's center stack offers two additional knobs that are universally more expensive and offer more expedient, rapid control than buttons. In this case, there's another knob for the G37's passenger temperature, because dual-zone climate control is standard on the Infiniti and not available on the Genesis. There's also another knob for radio tuning. The radio and ventilation controls for both cars operate with quality feel, but with few exceptions, the Infiniti offers a slightly improved level of precision and damping from its knobs.

The Infiniti's $2,200 Navigation package provides one of the best nav systems in the business as well as XM Nav Traffic, 9.3GB of hard-drive storage for music and a compact flash slot for MP3 playback. Navigation won't be available on the Hyundai until mid-model year.

Hyundai has cut no corners on the seats of the Genesis, however. In fact, the only way we can think to realistically improve them is to put a non-slip surface on the seat bottom. Otherwise, they are supportive, adjustable, even good-looking. And they're superior to the G37's seats in every way except there is no easy-entry release for either of the front seats, a feature the G offers.

Once in the backseat, passengers 5-foot-10 and taller will have to duck down in the Genesis but will still fit in the G37. Both cars make compromises in their rear seats, which is to say, don't plan on riding in the back of either one for very long.

And finally, the ability to make the Infiniti G37 look slab-sided and stodgy requires a car as aggressively styled as the Genesis coupe. This is truly a beautiful machine with lines and angles which literally stop traffic. If you're not a wuss, you'll get yours in Bathurst Black, which best shows off the coupe's gorgeous haunches and sculpted sides. Hyundai managed to knock off the G37's elegant proportions and then add some much-needed shape. And we love it.

The Rest of the Story

It's the undeniable value equation that tips this test in the favor of the 2010 Hyundai Genesis 3.8. You simply get more car for your dollar with the Genesis coupe. Sure, it's not as much car as the 2009 Infiniti G37, but at two-thirds the cost, it doesn't have to be.

Plus the Hyundai effectively opens up the sport coupe arena to a new buyer — one who isn't prepared to drop the better part of $50 large on a car but wants the looks and most of the performance of the big players. And that, friends, earns the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 a spot on anybody's short list of possible purchases.

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See that shape in the side of the Genesis coupe? Infiniti missed that boat.

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We won't pretend the Genesis coupe's profile is original.

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2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 and 2009 Infiniti G37.

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Ultimately, the G37 revs higher and makes more power, but look carefully at what happens before 4,800 rpm and you'll see the Genesis coupe's strengths.

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And guess what? It looks that good in person, too.

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It's the elegantly sculpted details that give the Genesis its gorgeous shape.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.act.r34.3.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#16)
Minimal body roll makes the Genesis fun at speed.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.eng.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#18)
With 306 hp and 266 lb-ft of torque the Genesis coupe's 3.8-liter V6 might be from a minivan, but it's sufficiently beefed up.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.fint.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#20)
The Genesis doesn't give up much to the G37 inside. Both its design and materials are solid.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.steering.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#22)
Several editors disliked the Genesis coupe's steering wheel covering and stitching. Some didn't even notice.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.cc.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#24)
We'd prefer a few more knobs which would make certain controls easier to use. Plus this might be the only part of the Genesis that's ugly.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.det.cc.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#26)
In case you forget.

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/roadtests/comparison/2010/hyundai.genesis.coupe/10.hyundai.genesis.coupe.rint.500.jpg (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826#28)
Rear seating in the Genesis coupe is what you expect: compact. Even more so than the G37.

Scapegoat

04-10-2009, 09:55 PM

just wondering... but don't you have something better to do on a friday night?

OMGz Turbo

04-10-2009, 10:09 PM

the more and more i see this car im definitely falling in love with it.

DocWalt

04-10-2009, 11:24 PM

just wondering... but don't you have something better to do on a friday night?

I was wondering the same thing, but here we are looking at it...

the more and more i see this car im definitely falling in love with it.

Me too. Holy moly some of those cars looked amazing...

aaronnn

04-12-2009, 12:23 AM

love the new gencoupe.

aaronnn

04-12-2009, 12:29 AM

here are pics i took myself when i was doing some shopping...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3334279105_114e46192e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3552/3334277741_b671895b0f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3343/3335114396_59484445b3_b.jpg

FULLY LOADED V6 $28,375
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3561/3335105664_08459192ba_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3337/3334269889_3e7004d19f_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3654/3335108124_35b4ab6868_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3630/3384295746_c920ee892a_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3650/3384292650_77298b15f6_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3664/3384286712_6c4c06ce1e_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3383470605_17640405d3_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3383465723_7e6251e7e1_b.jpg

2.0T $22,875. that's GTI, Civic SI, Cooper S territory...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3558/3384275950_43396b834c_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/3383460437_c2bd1a52a9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3545/3384270660_7204e9b8d5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3384267462_f90d64b3f9_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3596/3384264230_683a14d27a_b.jpg

2drStunner

04-13-2009, 08:04 AM

I really really like the car! Originally I thought the 6cyl was the only way to go now Im not so sure. The 4 cyl turbo sounds like it could be some fun. Espically with a Exhasut and tune. I think the green is terrible but thats my opinion.

tdmopar59

04-13-2009, 10:59 AM

i could totally rock one.

http://jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2008/07/Hyundai-Genesis-Coupe-SEMA.jpg

looks like a badass little car.

looks like a celica/g35 combo haha... but not bad overall

pharnhyte

04-13-2009, 09:35 PM

just wondering... but don't you have something better to do on a friday night?

Actually come to think of it, later I went out, and showed an SRT-4 my taillights. He would not stop bugging me, so oh well. And there was another black one today. Damn Ricers.

sisforsurfing

04-13-2009, 11:58 PM

just wondering... but don't you have something better to do on a friday night?

hahaha if you're going to call someone out for being on an internet forum on a friday night, do it when you're not on the same forum at the same time. :lol:

Solid posts pharnhyte. The car looks rad with proper wheels, and I'd read that InsideLine article, pretty cool!

OMGz Turbo

04-14-2009, 12:10 AM

I wish i could pick one up, throw a mean ass set of wheels on a drop with exhaust...I dont even really wanna modify it i like the way it is stock

John@20squared

04-14-2009, 02:38 AM

They look dope for sure. I wonder how they'll hold up.

pharnhyte

04-14-2009, 12:18 PM

They look dope for sure. I wonder how they'll hold up.

A lot better then any VW for sure.:mrgreen:

Scapegoat

04-14-2009, 01:46 PM

hahaha if you're going to call someone out for being on an internet forum on a friday night, do it when you're not on the same forum at the same time. :lol:

Solid posts pharnhyte. The car looks rad with proper wheels, and I'd read that InsideLine article, pretty cool!

i realized the irony of my comment :mrgreen:

i stayed in to work :cry:

great photos though. I'm pretty interested in this car... but i really want a v8 next

c7scayman

04-14-2009, 08:34 PM

I am suprised to see how many people already bough them and started modifying them. I see a lot more of them than 370z's.

jjm4life

04-16-2009, 10:41 AM

http://blogs.edmunds.com/straightline/2009/04/correction-hyundai-genesis-coupe-drift-car-using-nissan-engine.html

stoking the flames.. rhys millen's drift hyundai is powdered by a nissan v6

probevette

04-21-2009, 03:05 PM

Stock the 2.0t track is slow as balls. Will prob still buy it as our company project car but for anyone interested in it don't expect to have too much fun in that thing stock lol