b14 vq30 with pics last page

[iwanagofast]

hello all this is my first post thank you for reading
should i get a 94ish nissan altima or a 94 - 97 nissan sentry

i plan on getting a bluebird clip and switching over the engine and what not
maybe a rhd (if there isnt so much hassel) but i cant decide between the two
i dont know what car i wanna go with. i dont want a 240 im not ready for rear wheel drive.
also i donno if i should do the sr20det swapp or if i should just get a
vq35 or a rb26 i dont know how hard this would be or what im looking at
i think they all fit in the bay

[twastheglow]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Before we go talking about swaps, we should decide what kind of car we're talking about (although anything's possible with the right funds). What do you want? A Sentra will be sportier, but it's up to you.

[iwanagofast]

well
thats the thing this car is a project car i dont know when it will be done but it will be done some day some how
im the only wun thats ganna be in the at all times (i cut all my homies off) and i have another car. i just want something that can be made to look nice not rice and has great after market support but not a civic. i like the two nissan's and the clip is only like 1500 shipped if that. but i cant choose between the two the a 93-97 altima i think its those years or a 95-97 sentry. im ganna change the springs and all that so what it has stock doesnt matter. i can get a sentry for 800 but its a auto i dont know how hard it is to switch this **** out.
the only two that i found and liked are both four doors so im at a complete lost
hey thanks for the quick response

[twastheglow]

Well bro, it sounds like you have a lot to figure out 1st. However aftermarket support for the FWD SR20DET will be better than most swaps. If it were me (which it's not), I'd go Sentra. But don't just settle on the 2 cars that you've looked at. Look around.

[iwanagofast]

ah im rob btw
but why do you choose the sentra thats what im wondering what makes it better then the altima. i chose these two cars cause for what i have right now this is the best choice for now and for when i can do the swap.
and if the only difference between the sr20det is that ones rwd and ones fwd does it mean that what ever works with one will work for the other like if bore and pistons and stuff would i see the same results?

[twastheglow]

Ok, I'm having a hard time following you here. You need to try to write in complete sentences. Let me see here...I personally would choose the Sentra because the aftermarket support for the car in general is much better. Also, an SR swap is very straight forward. The car is also a lot "sportier" and can be made to handle like a champ. They can be made to be a very successful auto x car. I'm not sure what these cars have to do with what you have now. I'm confused on your question regarding the SR differences. Are you talking about engine internals being swappable between FWD and RWD?

[iwanagofast]

yea sorry bout that.

yea you basically answerd my question
and as far as the engine it self what i ment was. is the only difference between the rwd sr20 and the fwd sr20 the engine mounts? so if they are the same could do what others have done to there rwd sr20s and epect the same gains out my front wheel drive sr20 i hope this makes sense bro

[twastheglow]

I'm sorry dude...I'm trying. lol I can read what you wrote a lot better, but I'm not fully understanding your questions. But I'm going to try anyway. I'm not sure what engine mounts have to do with "gains". Better mounts allow for less engine movement. For example...if you bought a Sentra that had the SR20DE, you could buy an SR20DET motorset and it would bolt right up to the same mounts. Iirc, you can also use the same transmission (but don't quote me on that point, that I'm not sure about) and certainly the same exhaust etc. You would also need the SR20DET ecu.


I guess I'm not really sure what your questions are still. :( Sorry.

[iwanagofast]

lol sorry
ok
the rwd sr20 sits straight and a fwd sr20 sits sideways.
what i wanna know is if they are the same engine internally will the mods from one engine net the same gain onthe other engine you get me now ?
and also if i get a sentra that ddoesnt come with the sr20 will it still be a straight forward swap when i get a sr20det
and your right the se-r transmission fits the sr20det.

[twastheglow]

Perfect. That I completely understood. lol As far as the same mods netting the same gain, fwd/rwd, not exactly. For one, the same mods on the same kind of motor in 2 different cars doesn't necessarily net the same gains because every motor/car is different. Also, that combined with fwd and rwd transmissions leaching power differently also affects the power gains. I'm pretty sure the SR swap in any B chasis (although I think the B15 is more complicated) is decently straight forward. You may just need different aftermarket mounts if the car didn't come stock with an SR.

Why were you so curious about the gains on a fwd and rwd being the same with the same mods?

[iwanagofast]

because the rear wheel drive sr20det has been swapp in alot and alot of people have done alot of **** to it so i thought maybe i can have a point of reference
like i used to own a neon thati was in the process of swapping a bore and stroked 2.4 and turbo but i crashed it but the point is that evrything was hard when it came to modding it because no one did alot to the 2.0 that came in a neon.

so do you think i even need a whole clip? or could i just buy the engine the about the same price anyway so i onno?

[[sr20]sean]

look for a b14 ser or sel. they come with sr20de's stock then all you have to do is boost the engine or swap the engines. b15 sentra se models come with rocker roller sr20de's in them.
the internals for both motors are the same but the heads are different. you can put rwd sr20det pistons in a fwd sr20de. theres also the pulsar gtir engine which is different then all other sr20dets. just IM me if you get confused. its less of a hassel to explain. my screen name on aim is dcr1d3r13.

[twastheglow]

The 2.0 that came in the Neon has next to no market support compared to the 2.0 SR. I wouldn't buy the whole clip. What's the point? Other than the motor, what else would you be using off the clip? 1st decide what car you're going to buy and work with. Then we can recommend what you should do/buy.

[twastheglow]

sean;1056545']look for a b14 ser or sel. they come with sr20de's stock then all you have to do is boost the engine or swap the engines. b15 sentra se models come with rocker roller sr20de's in them.
the internals for both motors are the same but the heads are different. you can put rwd sr20det pistons in a fwd sr20de. theres also the pulsar gtir engine which is different then all other sr20dets. just IM me if you get confused. its less of a hassel to explain. my screen name on aim is dcr1d3r13.

Considering this guy has an SE-R, he probably knows more about it than I do. But I sure tried. :mrgreen:

[[sr20]sean]

im with mike on this one.
you really dont need a clip. its completely pointless for you. it would come with an awd transmission and that would be of no use for you. alot of people that buy sr20dets that have awd transmissions just end up throwing out the transmission. there is so little demand for the awd sr20 transmission.

Considering this guy has an SE-R, he probably knows more about it than I do. But I sure tried. :mrgreen:

haha thanks mike
but yea ive been around these cars/engines for a while so i know quite a bit about the cars

[twastheglow]

When you have your car selections narrowed down, take some pics of cars you're looking at and post them for us so we can advise you accordingly. I mean right now were talking about SR swaps in B chasis and we don't even know what car you are interested in buying.

[iwanagofast]

well im getting a sentra thats for sure.
i didnt even see sr20 seans post till now hehe
i cant buy a sentra that cost more then 2 gran and im not in a hurry i like to take my time when buying a project car.
but thank you all for helping out with my questions
how much boost can this engine take and still be reliable?
and what does it red line at ? 7.500k rpm .
how hard is the auto manual swap in case i cant find a manual sentra

[Ace]

www.sr20forum.com

Some great FAQ's on there that will answer EVERYTHING you need.

[StylezTA]

neo vvl swap ftw

[J.E.T.]

neo vvl swap ftw

You got that right! hehehehe :mrgreen:

So, you bought a Sentra with the GA16DE? You should of scoured for a 95-98 200SX SE-R or a 98/99 Sentra SE, both with a sr20de.

As for the Alty, I don't think you can do much with a swap. Even if you can, it's not as easy as you think.

[Honest_Bob]

You guys are forgetting some of the SR20 powered cars. They are going to be sad. :cry:

FWD Cars with SR20 stock.

1991-1994 Nissan Sentra SE-R
1991-1993 Nissan NX2000
1991-2001 Infiniti G20
1995-1998 Sentra 200SX SE-R
1998 -2001 Sentra SE

Do yourself a favor and buy a manual one to begin with.

http://www.sr20forum.com do it!

[J.E.T.]

^^^ I know about the list of FWD SR20 powered cars, but OP was specifically looking for a B14.

[iwanagofast]

wow i havent been here in a while its been busy. well im getting a sentra more product support and all that jazz but im going for a vq swap
ganna take my time on this i still havent really found a sentra i like. thanks for the help guys

[J.E.T.]

Hope you understand that a vq swap is not a straight install into a B14 sentra. Plenty of fabrication will need to be done. Only one person in the US that I know of has successfully placed a VQ35 into a 4 door B14 Sentra.

[Renegade_]

No way do you want to do a RHD conversion, there is more **** to do than you think... Are you a welder?

[twastheglow]

Hope you understand that a vq swap is not a straight install into a B14 sentra. Plenty of fabrication will need to be done. Only one person in the US that I know of has successfully placed a VQ35 into a 4 door B14 Sentra.

x2. I hope you have a DD to drive while you're cars ripped up. I also hope you know what you're getting yourself into. With that being said, good luck. That would be a decent swap.

[cburwell]

You don't need no stinking VQ swap to make good power! At least not when you have an SR20DE that can make well into the 300WHP range (and beyond if you know what you're doing) without even touching the bottom end.

That's just my opinion. Do what makes you happy, but adding a turbo to the existing engine will be a lot more straight forward.

[iwanagofast]

thats the thing tho i like to be unique. i know what im getting into with this swap. i am not going for the vq35 as i cant find one that is cheap enough where i can get the engine and still be able to pay the bills and ****. me personally i am a novice welder but my friend is a damn good welder and i actually looking into the rhd swap. and umm yea hell to the no im not doing that its not worth it. so im getting a vq30 from a 99-04 maxima use a 94-97ecu and then after that ill start figuring everythign else out but even if its the most pain in the ass swap i wanna be DIFFERENT not just a regular.
i hope youz can relate or atleast understand where i am coming from and not flame me for tring to be different.
oh and if any of you need wire diagrams or anything that can be found on a shopkey email me or aim me preet930 im on aol.

[cburwell]

VQ30 is not worth it IMO, unless you are going to turbo it which is a whole other issue (swap + turbo). If you want to stick with an N/A application, you want a VQ35. BTW, 2002+ Maximas have the VQ35.

I guess I can partly understand where you are coming from with wanting to be different. However, I doubt you are thinking about this swap just for the sake of being different. You want to make more power too. There is a point where you are just throwing money away for the sake of being different, and IMO that is a waste. If you are staying N/A, you want the additional power that the 3.5 is going to give you out of the box. These are just my opinions, you do what every makes you happy in the end.

[iwanagofast]

thank you cburwell for your post its informative and its not flaming like others on some other forums. any i am planning on turboing
i am doing much research on the engine first week was all wireing secound week was all mounting and getting the engine mounts and everythign working(persay) and next week is all about building and turbo.
thats why i dont respond so fast thankyou all for your input. so far i see the fitment issue of the turbo what i came up with was relocating the battery to the trunk and have the turbo sit in or near the battery tray and have a pipe go to the header . the problem i see here is the bigger lag because the turbo has to pull the exhust a longer distence. i dont know a solution for this except that the distance isnt really far since the motor is so much bigger. i hope i am making sense!?!?!
wensday i will be going to my junkyard and seeing if they have any vq35.... the thing with this that scared the **** outta me is the wiring and also loseing the garage i found that i can rent out since ill have to be saving more to get the engine..
i want you guys to understand that i want to learn i dont want to seem like a know it all or a person who doesnt want to hear you say your wrong
i repeat I WANT TO LEARN if you see me going at a problem wrong tell me but tell me or anyother person that is in my situation that i should just do something else that has been done so many times or that im wasting my time and not tell me why.. just because somethign is hard as balls to do doesnt mean it cant be done i want fast and reliable if its more expensive ill wait and get it later...
and again thank you all for your help and tolerence
rob

[[sr20]sean]

You guys are forgetting some of the SR20 powered cars. They are going to be sad. :cry:

FWD Cars with SR20 stock.

1991-1994 Nissan Sentra SE-R
1991-1993 Nissan NX2000
1991-2001 Infiniti G20
1995-1998 Sentra 200SX SE-R
1998 -2001 Sentra SE

Do yourself a favor and buy a manual one to begin with.

http://www.sr20forum.com do it!

you left out the 99 sentra se-l

[cburwell]

thank you cburwell for your post its informative and its not flaming like others on some other forums. any i am planning on turboing
i am doing much research on the engine first week was all wireing secound week was all mounting and getting the engine mounts and everythign working(persay) and next week is all about building and turbo.
thats why i dont respond so fast thankyou all for your input. so far i see the fitment issue of the turbo what i came up with was relocating the battery to the trunk and have the turbo sit in or near the battery tray and have a pipe go to the header . the problem i see here is the bigger lag because the turbo has to pull the exhust a longer distence. i dont know a solution for this except that the distance isnt really far since the motor is so much bigger. i hope i am making sense!?!?!
wensday i will be going to my junkyard and seeing if they have any vq35.... the thing with this that scared the **** outta me is the wiring and also loseing the garage i found that i can rent out since ill have to be saving more to get the engine..
i want you guys to understand that i want to learn i dont want to seem like a know it all or a person who doesnt want to hear you say your wrong
i repeat I WANT TO LEARN if you see me going at a problem wrong tell me but tell me or anyother person that is in my situation that i should just do something else that has been done so many times or that im wasting my time and not tell me why.. just because somethign is hard as balls to do doesnt mean it cant be done i want fast and reliable if its more expensive ill wait and get it later...
and again thank you all for your help and tolerence
rob

That's good that you want to learn! The more research you do, the easier the work will actually be! Take a look around B15sentra.net, there was a member there that started the whole VQ swaps for sentra crazy. He has also built a turbo VQ30 that is in a Spec V. The info applies mostly to B15 (2000-2006) Sentras, but you might be able to get some ideas. Also, I don't think he posted much technical or how-to data. His user name is Trav and then some numbers.

sean;1067757']you left out the 99 sentra se-l

1998-2001 SE had that covered! ;)

[iwanagofast]

yea i found him the other day
umm his famous words are i dont post plans i post results
thats cool but doesnt help me. im looking on all the forums maxima b15 b14. i decided to build the engine first and take my time find a shell besides it makes more sense to me. build the engine and put it in the car afterwards.

i was thinking of getting a vq30dek from a maxima and getting the head from a vq35. the intake manifold from the dek should bolt up just fine
reason is because the vq35 heads flow better its 3.5liters ... so im thinking if i replace the crank and rods and pistons using the q30block and q35 head and the dek intake i should have a killer motor. what do you think? the reason why i want to use the dek intake mani is because from what i understand is that it gives the engine a nice power curve all the way past 55k rpm where the 95-99 engines die off.

[iwanagofast]

i was wrong the the vq35 heads arent compatible with the intake mani from the dek.
and thinking about it i dont think it will even be worth building the engine that way ill be better off just swaping the vq35 in.
hmm..... wat em i to do anyway i still wanna know what yall think
?

[[sr20]sean]

just use a vq35 intake manifold with the vq35 heads
and whats the point in swapping the cranks? unless your going to put a stroker kit in the engine then the stock crank will be able to handle pretty much any of the power you were looking for. just do bearings, pistons and rings, and rods.

[cburwell]

There are aftermarket intake manifolds for the VQ35 (FWD), so don't stress too much about that.

If you want some extra displacement, take a look at using VQ40 internals. The VQ40's are all oriented like a RWD engine, but you may be able to just use the pistons and rods for some extra displacement.

[iwanagofast]

0k cool cburwell ill take a look at the vq40 internals
sean you better be studing lol it pays off... hehe
anyway umm wen it comes to the wiring harness if i just take all the relay boxes and fuse boxes hell even the fuse harness thing in the car.
and just get rid of the sentra harness all togeather (where i can) and just splice it in to the hot wire. do i make sense? thank you

[cburwell]

IIRC, I think that is what most people do. You will have to do a handful of splices of the VQ harness into the Sentra body harness.

[JSpecV03]

Perfect. That I completely understood. lol As far as the same mods netting the same gain, fwd/rwd, not exactly. For one, the same mods on the same kind of motor in 2 different cars doesn't necessarily net the same gains because every motor/car is different. Also, that combined with fwd and rwd transmissions leaching power differently also affects the power gains. I'm pretty sure the SR swap in any B chasis (although I think the B15 is more complicated) is decently straight forward. You may just need different aftermarket mounts if the car didn't come stock with an SR.

Why were you so curious about the gains on a fwd and rwd being the same with the same mods?

im with mike on this. weather or not your swapping a blacktop w/ vvt or a redtop sr both engines will produce simialir numbers, the health of the engine being the biggest factor and no 2 cars are the same. also the parastatic loss ( i think thats the term) from crank to wheels will be greater in a rwd cuz of the lengthy driveshaft. so that comes down to a prefrence of fwd or rwd. but the alitima and b14 sentra are fwd so im guessing like a 15-20% average on parastic loss.

the b15 (the guru i am on these) sentra se 2.0 ( you guessed it) came with the USDM sr20de. im not a 100% positive on this swap, but it has been done. the mounts are the same im guessing, but swapping the ECU's might be tricky. but like my boy mike said, its pretty straight forward.
avoid a b15 gxe model, it comes with a qg18de, its basically the base model of the car. also another swap growing in popularity is the VQ35DE swap in the b15 sentra. although i think its only limited to the spec v

[JSpecV03]

Hope you understand that a vq swap is not a straight install into a B14 sentra. Plenty of fabrication will need to be done. Only one person in the US that I know of has successfully placed a VQ35 into a 4 door B14 Sentra.


i didnt even think that it could be done. the swap in the b15 was iffy at first but this guy travis figured it out and since the sentra is a tiny car, the power to weight ratio= great numbers. but for a b14 an sr20det swap is all you need.

[[sr20]sean]

IIRC, I think that is what most people do. You will have to do a handful of splices of the VQ harness into the Sentra body harness.

when jason or justin (idr what his name was but all i know what his user name was ninety nine se-l ) swapped he pulled the entire harness out of his car there were absolutely no wires in his car

[iwanagofast]

that seems easier i think are you talking about the dash harness to

[[sr20]sean]

http://www.sr20-forum.com/showthread.php?t=5759&

[cburwell]

sean;1074645']when jason or justin (idr what his name was but all i know what his user name was ninety nine se-l ) swapped he pulled the entire harness out of his car there were absolutely no wires in his car

Yeah, I hate wiring! There is no way I would do that! I'm still trying to figure out how to wire in a few sensors for my B14 conversion!

[[sr20]sean]

are you serious?

im amazing at wiring. i had to completely rewire a vw dune buggy thing at school lol it was kinda fun though. then i got pissed off cause the teacher told me i had to hide the wiring a little bit better but it was only stuff that was under the dash

[iwanagofast]

umm i have looked and looked but i suck i know i know im a boob.
but ethier way if i wanted to get the v35 head ont eh vq30block what will i need to do
it bolts up but im being told that theres some holes or somthing that wont match up
could i have the head mirrored so it works or should i just go for a 3.3 stroker. does those .2 litters make a difference?

[[sr20]sean]

umm i have looked and looked but i suck i know i know im a boob.
but ethier way if i wanted to get the v35 head ont eh vq30block what will i need to do
it bolts up but im being told that theres some holes or somthing that wont match up
could i have the head mirrored so it works or should i just go for a 3.3 stroker. does those .2 litters make a difference?

your not getting any extra engine size out of swapping heads.
all you would get is better airflow. displacement is all having to do with the block.

[Ace]

This thread makes my head hurt. Don't even waste the time. Put a stock Avenir DET in the Sentra, turn the boost up, and you'll be just as fast, and 100x more reliable.

[[sr20]sean]

This thread makes my head hurt. Don't even waste the time. Put a stock Avenir DET in the Sentra, turn the boost up, and you'll be just as fast, and 100x more reliable.

i tried convincing him
it didnt work

[J.E.T.]

This thread makes my head hurt. Don't even waste the time. Put a stock Avenir DET in the Sentra, turn the boost up, and you'll be just as fast, and 100x more reliable.

He's gonna learn the hard way.

Even Justin, who owns the Red Sentra with the vq35, said if he would do it again, he wouldn't.

[Ace]

I'll be looking forward to the part out :D

[iwanagofast]

You guys dont dream lol youll see

[[sr20]sean]

theres the thing
we know where the line between dream and possiblility is

[Ace]

You guys dont dream lol youll see

sean;1099844']theres the thing
we know where the line between dream and possiblility is

Exactly. Most car 'dreams' end up in a halfassed setup, that never runs to it's true potential.

You'd think by now that if it was easy and the better way to go, that more would be doing it. I mean, everyone that gets DET's is just wasting their time right? (sarcasm)


Cliffs: If you're dreaming about it on a forum, you don't have the capability to pull it off in real life.

[[sr20]sean]

Exactly. Most car 'dreams' end up in a halfassed setup, that never runs to it's true potential.

You'd think by now that if it was easy and the better way to go, that more would be doing it. I mean, everyone that gets DET's is just wasting their time right? (sarcasm)


Cliffs: If you're dreaming about it on a forum, you don't have the capability to pull it off in real life.

i have the capability to do the awd and rhd b13 but dont have the bank account for it.

[iwanagofast]

hello ladies
just a update i started the swap i pulled the 1,6l out the sentra
any one with a sentra want parts let me know im still looking to find a motor.
ill update as i remember

[[sr20]sean]

ive been talking to him while hes been doing this and i can assure its actually getting done.

[iwanagofast]

yes i am sexy hawt... i need a flywheel and clutch trans. oh and a ecu. ahhhh yea ill be done eventually

[cburwell]

So, what swap did you decide to go with?

[JSpecV03]

yeah updates.

[jonwepa]

Dude, just go with a VQ35 over the hybrid your talking about. The VQ can be had for the same price as a DEK VQ and make ALOT more torque and a good amount of power too. Its really shouldn't even be a consideration to be honest. I know guys getting 2002 maxima motors for 500, so go get one and be done already! Go to maxima.org if you wanna see the difference between 3.0's and 3.5's

[iwanagofast]

hey little update ****s been hecktek i just got the vq30 reasons bein it was cheap wireing was easier
so wtf ..... i got my new mig welder and now im ready to go tommerow sunday i should be able to work on my car again since things got screwy with my garage.
so i used the time to collect parts and shyt. i repeat i fcking hate wireing. took the easier wrote bought the dash harness and shyt ganna do it this way so i dont have to wire so much just the speaker wires and windows and locks which again is alot easier then matching up sensors and shyt. just a running tally of what i got so far.

vq30 engine with 105k out a 98 max -250

ecu dash harness slave cyl and shifter linkage with rod all for-- 200 shipped.

starter and alt brand new - lol cheap(sources)

cross member- 10 bucks

supplies for my motor mounts - 100

brackets for my 300z bbk--- 60

300z 4 pot alumin calipers--


i still need a couple things
master cyl umm other **** but i wanna get the engine in there first and running before i modify it
but by the time im dont with it im hoping to have close to a 3.8 liter bore and stroked set up
im also going with a holset hx55 turbo. i hope to be done with this **** by summa time...
also i am going with 10 inch wide rims so i am ganna fab me up a wide body kit.

[iwanagofast]

ill post pictures and **** later after i am more umm closer to completions

[[sr20]sean]

i still havnt seen pics of this thing yet... i think all youve shown me through links on aim was the fs thread for the sentra.
but come one man you shouldve been able to atleast bolt in the engine or something.

how are you fitting 10 inch wide rims under there without rubbing?? that needs like a 10 offset so it doesnt rub the strut and it would need a much wider fender. just go with 8 inch wide and use slicks. thats more then enough grip for what your talking about building. plus it would be like 2 years down the road when you actually get to suspension work.

out of curiosity how do you expect to spool a hx55? its about the same size as a gt4202r... which is recommended for like 8 liter engines... just stick with like a gt35r or sc61. what do you expect the car to be used for anyways? just drag? cause that turbo would be only good for a drag setup lol. plus your going to need to find a way to get an equal length header for a v6 and mount that massive turbo somewhere that you have room and i highly doubt that you could get it to fit under the hood...

[jonwepa]

hx55??? Your out of your mind! Are you buildig that VQ? If not that thing is goona pop!

[[sr20]sean]

hx55??? Your out of your mind! Are you buildig that VQ? If not that thing is goona pop!

i have a feeling it will pop even if it is built...
im still worried about a gt35r on my build i might just stick with a gt30 series ive said too much... but he wants to use a vq35 crank in the vq30 with vq30 internals or something like that :confused: but that wouldnt explain how he plans on getting 3.8L out of a setup that would only make around 3.2-3.3L. for a 3.8L he would probably need a vq35 bored out pretty insanely and a custom stroker kit...

i honestly dont think this project will get past the vq30 into the car but still good luck with it man. you will really need it.


you shouldve gone with a more practical swap/build though. in the time that your going to take to build this i can probably finish the project i havnt released info on yet and put an sr20det into a mustang(out of complete boredom) even you could get both these builds done in the same amount of time.

[iwanagofast]

the reason why its taking me so long to finish this **** is cause first i was sick since about new years. then my mechanic had a issue with the garage and **** he needed my space then i was broke which i am still since im in school now. YAY!!
i spoke to travis and we talked numbers the 3.8 litter vk40 crank with custom rods and pistons wouldnt work actually how we both thought well mostly what he thought so thats out the question then there was a mis conmunication between us when he said i could get 100mm sleeves and bore em out he thought i had a 3,5 litter.
as far as the hx55 and hx50 they do spool with in the right power band. first of i am going to build the engine and boost secound when i build and **** it shouuld safely rev to 8k... i hope...
the hx 50 are being ran on rx7 eagle talons and eclipse (dsm) hondas and 5cyclender volvos. i have a feeling that i shoulda
done alot of things differnt planing for sure i shoulda laid my **** out right ...
maybe i shoulda stay quiet since i knew i would be doubted and questioned but **** it. ya will see my finish project ....

[iwanagofast]

i got pics post em tommerow im odee tired.
for all the doubters out there. i still got to weld up my motor mounts an **** like that i got the cross member fabed up the front and rear motor mount has to be cut and re welded, i measured wrong .... i kno i kno i shoulda trippled check!!doh!!!!
so basicaly the pic i got is of the motor just krillin there. i hope i dont have school tommeorw so i can do all this ****.
one luv be safe

[iwanagofast]

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o158/das_it/my%20neon/SSPX0174.jpg first day home
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[iwanagofast]

for all thos who doubted me
i forgot about this thread haha

[[sr20]sean]

still wont spool that turbo =P
and you have a vq30 i thought?

[JSpecV03]

sean;1325802']still wont spool that turbo =P
and you have a vq30 i thought?

thats what i thought. it was gonna be a vq30 build, either way, good luck dude, that cars is gonna fly.

[iwanagofast]

lol typo lol haha ill fix it later
thanks guys
-buddah

[JSpecV03]

^^^^i was gonna say, a vq35 in a b14,,,wow tight sqeeeze

[iwanagofast]

yo jspec i pmed you

[JSpecV03]

yo jspec i pmed you

and i PM'd you back bro.

[iwanagofast]

and i pmd you back
broham