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240sxDann
08-23-2008, 08:00 PM
1993 s13 coupe. I've heard different things for offsets, so I guess it depends on what size wheels your running? I want to run 18x9's all the around. (Well I'd REALLY like to rock 18x9's on the front and 18x10's on the back but I dont want to run like huge overfenders) What would be a good offset to look for to get flush? I've heard 0 offset is the best but I havn't really gotten any precise answers on zilvia and I dare not ask because I'd get flamed to look at "x thread" and that thread isn't giving me the answers I want!

GOULET
08-23-2008, 08:20 PM
You'll definately need to roll your fenders for 18x10s in the rear and 18x9 in the front. It all really depends on your offset too. Even 18x9 with a low offset in the rear will need to be pulled. what kinda wheels are you lookin at? you can always buy my ssr's that are in the for sale section. theyre 17x9 and 17x8. shameless plug i know lol

SovXietday
08-23-2008, 09:33 PM
If you're unsure, you can always pick a safe offset and then use some small spacers.

TROLL
08-23-2008, 09:47 PM
i'd def go staggered widths (wider in the rear than in the front) for both the look and the performance. offsets do depend on widths like you said. i'm sure there are some threads on 240 forums with common wheel fitments so try and search there, but also come back here and post what you find becuase i dont know.
i doubt a stock body 240 will run a 0 offset... people might say its the 'best' because its really aggressive and would have a wide stance and big lip, but its not for the faint at heart or for the stock bodied i dont think.
look at other peoples offsets and see what they're running to get an idea of what you can do...

Adam496
08-23-2008, 09:48 PM
What kind of wheels are you going for? Something where you can pick your offsets or like emotion Cr Kai that comes in specifics? Do you wanna run a stretched or a meaty tire. More info would help

18x9 in the +12 range is a decent fitment. You can get away with roll and minimal camber.
http://www.aspecproducts.com/forums/zilvia/gramlights/jin_02.jpg

I have 18x10+5 out back with overs. I could have gotten away with a giant pull with camber but it fits nice with a 285
http://i34.tinypic.com/4ju6px.jpg ( I know its a s14 but it has similar fitment)

TROLL
08-23-2008, 09:57 PM
Is it similar fitment? Anthony threw my old Supra rear wheels on his stock body S14... they fit with a fender roll... they are about an 18x10 +40 with a 275 tire on them. I'm not sure on exact wheel width and offset but thats close. They looked totally badass.

Adam496
08-23-2008, 09:59 PM
Is it similar fitment? Anthony threw my old Supra rear wheels on his stock body S14... they fit with a fender roll... they are about an 18x10 +40 with a 275 tire on them. I'm not sure on exact wheel width and offset but thats close. They looked totally badass.

Supra and s13 fitment? I meant s13 to s14 fitment (which is close). Again its all how you want to look I've seen somebody with a coupe hight +20s and meaty tires, but they were not "flush".

TROLL
08-23-2008, 10:02 PM
yeah i was asking if S13 and S14 fitment were similar... and then in a seperate thought i said that i put my old Supra wheels onto Anthony's S14... the supra wheels were a decent fitment but not super aggressive... just nice enough to not look sunken in.

they fit like this on the supra, and were pretty aggressive on the S14
http://www.bryantroll.com/other/supra/1214/supra3.jpg

Adam496
08-23-2008, 10:06 PM
Yeah it is. I believe the s14 has more room to work with as far as lower offsets, but they are similar. Most people run the lower offsets to clear coils and big brakes .

ScubaSteve
08-23-2008, 10:10 PM
18's are gonna look huge one an s13 so make sure thats what you're looking for before you order them.

You'll definately need to roll your fenders for 18x10s in the rear and 18x9 in the front. It all really depends on your offset too. Even 18x9 with a low offset in the rear will need to be pulled. what kinda wheels are you lookin at? you can always buy my ssr's that are in the for sale section. theyre 17x9 and 17x8. shameless plug i know lol

Holy **** I want your wheels! Too bad tuition has to come first.

Adam496
08-23-2008, 10:21 PM
Here, troll i found it. Not exactly "flush", but still pretty pimp in my book. The wheels are 18x8.5 +32 245s, 18x10 +43 275s
http://images24.fotki.com/v863/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_1877-vi.jpg
http://images23.fotki.com/v869/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_1880-vi.jpg

18x8 +32 245s 18x9.5 +43 265s
http://images27.fotki.com/v983/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_2308-vi.jpg
http://images28.fotki.com/v1002/photos/4/47612/3915226/IMG_2413-vi.jpg

TROLL
08-23-2008, 10:30 PM
nice... thats a good guide for you dan :thumbup:
thats a sweet ass coupe...

Renegade_
08-23-2008, 10:50 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread-66.html#post2251141

Those are nice...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread-65.html#post2242436

But only if your a real baller...

18x9.5 -22 215/35 18
18x11 -3 245/40 18

Or http://www.matejblahut.com/photo/auto/part/hanabi0103.jpg

Which is 9Jx17 -18 front, 9Jx17 -30 rear, 205/45's.

*edit* found something your size...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-wheel-fitment-whore-thread-64.html#post2215770

US_R33
08-24-2008, 02:41 AM
first of all 18s are going to look huge without full aero

Second, you can fit a 9" wide wheel up front on an s13 with a +22-26ish and a 235 tire with at least 2.5* camber and just a fender roll

You can fit a 10" wide wheel out back with a +35-45ish with a 255-275 tire with 2-2.5* camber and a fender roll with slight pull (maybe)

As for s13 and s14 wheel fitments.....dont bother comparing

I was running 17x9 +17 all around with 235s up front and 255s out back and needed a pretty decent pull....you shouldn't pull s13s as much as I did due to thin aheetmetal and buckling at the limit

- Daniel

240sxDann
08-24-2008, 01:27 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/thumpin15s/s13%20coupe/s13coupe-8-3-08001.jpg

I think 18's look pretty decent. The main thing that needs to be kept in mind is that this is my daily driver. I can't have tires stretched to all hell and -35* camber hahaha. Wonder if I could run a 17x9 in front and a 17x10.5 in the back?

17x9 +25
http://www.americanmuscle.com/chrome-deepdish-cobra-17x9.html

17x10.5 +27
http://www.americanmuscle.com/chrome-deepdish-cobra-17x105.html

TROLL
08-24-2008, 01:37 PM
i know you work there and i'm sure you get a discount, but its going to be hard to pull off wheels from a place called 'american muscle' on a 240 i think... and i agree that 17s would def look better on your car, IMO of course.

240sxDann
08-24-2008, 01:52 PM
Did you look at the wheels?

*extremely over dramatic chop* lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v683/thumpin15s/s13%20coupe/coupecobrawheelscopy.jpg

Personally I think they look really good. Deep dish 5 spokes.

US_R33
08-24-2008, 05:31 PM
10.5s won't work on stock body

You'll need a 265 in order to not stretch tires

My put "American muscle" wheels on an s13???

I see you didn't read my post.....

240sxDann
08-24-2008, 07:34 PM
10.5s won't work on stock body

You'll need a 265 in order to not stretch tires

My put "American muscle" wheels on an s13???

I see you didn't read my post.....

No, I did. I appreciate the advice. I personally like the look of the cobra wheels. Whats wrong with doing something a little different? When you say a slight pull, do you mean like, a slight enough pull I may be able to get it to work with a lot of roll or like I'll have to take it to a shop and have it done? I really want the offset set up, and I'd love 9's up front and 10's in the rear. I'm pretty sure I can roll my own fenders but I cannot pull them myself.

US_R33
08-24-2008, 07:53 PM
there's nothing wrong with doing something a little different, but Cobra wheels isn't doing something a little different.....

for the front fenders, you're going to need to push the front of the fenders out so that you are able to cover the front of the tires.....like this
http://i38.tinypic.com/1q3j0n.jpg

you're then going to have to pull the fenders...but they're almost definitely going to buckle towards the back of the arch, due to their thin sheetmetal
http://i38.tinypic.com/rjigcy.jpg

this is with 17x9 +17 front and rear with 255/40 rear tires and 235/40 front tires

the rears could have been pulled a little bit more, but the passenger's rear quarter panel would have buckled if I pulled it any further...due to the gas cap door

as for rolling the fenders yourself, its just that little lip where the fender liner screws into that you'll be rolling. you should do all of it with the proper fender roller. also, be sure to hammer flat the seam at the top of the front fender well with a BFH and tuck your wire harnesses out of the way as well

240sxDann
08-24-2008, 08:27 PM
Sooooooooooooooooo.......who wants to help me do this with my fenders?! lol! I'm thinking 10's may be too much for the rear for me. I like the way those 9's sit.

Adam496
08-24-2008, 08:41 PM
Here get these. Instant hotness.
http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/210064-ca-brand-new-gramlight-57-maximum-time-attack-18x9-5-12-a.html

240sxDann
08-24-2008, 08:48 PM
Here get these. Instant hotness.
http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/210064-ca-brand-new-gramlight-57-maximum-time-attack-18x9-5-12-a.html

those are HOT!!! Ok eff the mustang wheels I'm just gonna save up and get some ballin ass wheels lol

frosti108
08-25-2008, 12:07 AM
yea man i dont think you should go too big on the rims with everything else stock... if u just want something to throw big ass rims on, you need a luxury car. spend your moola on go fast parts!!!! worry about bein a baller later :D

with such a wide rim and no power adders, youll never have any rwd fun. the car will do nothing but grip and be slow. dont let the baller fads mess with your head

OPZ
08-25-2008, 12:29 AM
I must be the only person with a 240 that has 15x6.5?/7? tires on his 240...with no plans for plus sizing.

Rims in question are lancer OZ rims.

240sxDann
08-25-2008, 07:11 AM
yea man i dont think you should go too big on the rims with everything else stock... if u just want something to throw big ass rims on, you need a luxury car. spend your moola on go fast parts!!!! worry about bein a baller later :D

with such a wide rim and no power adders, youll never have any rwd fun. the car will do nothing but grip and be slow. dont let the baller fads mess with your head


I think I might just go semi-baller 17x9 all the way around. Dont worry about the go fast, that will be taken care of soon enough. :mrgreen: I'm getting all my suspension out of the way first. As of right now, all I need is a set of 5 lug wheels and I dont want to buy wheels twice, so I'm doing it right the first time.

I must be the only person with a 240 that has 15x6.5?/7? tires on his 240...with no plans for plus sizing.

Rims in question are lancer OZ rims.

I had 15's on my first 240, and they are just too small. That much sidewall looks like a damn monster truck!

OPZ
08-25-2008, 05:27 PM
Aye, but I just plan on slamming it to the ground if possible to clear that up. After having 17's on my elantra and driving to pittsburgh and back 4 days a week...just no. Never again.

US_R33
08-25-2008, 07:41 PM
I must be the only person with a 240 that has 15x6.5?/7? tires on his 240...with no plans for plus sizing.

Rims in question are lancer OZ rims.
yes :bigeek:

rock out with some 16" meshies and call it a day
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y189/ke70/My_car/2005_4_30_06.jpg

http://a856.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00773/55/84/773874855_l.jpg

http://zilvia.net/rides/west/mw13/bbsoffcar.JPG

OPZ
08-25-2008, 09:32 PM
I will not lie...I looked at that 2nd pic and instantly thought DeLorean.

I just have this hatred of plus sizing because of the added mass, and I mean even though I want to try and get into drifting (like 98.2% of every one else with a 240) and they do it with 17's and 18's...I don't know...

The car had 18's on it when I bought it, but the ride to pittsburgh was HORRIBLE. Threw on the 15's, beautiful ride.

240sxDann
08-25-2008, 10:27 PM
I will not lie...I looked at that 2nd pic and instantly thought DeLorean.

I just have this hatred of plus sizing because of the added mass, and I mean even though I want to try and get into drifting (like 98.2% of every one else with a 240) and they do it with 17's and 18's...I don't know...

The car had 18's on it when I bought it, but the ride to pittsburgh was HORRIBLE. Threw on the 15's, beautiful ride.
16's or 17's can still be comfortable.

OPZ
08-25-2008, 11:01 PM
17's stretch it for me. Maybe it was 2.slow engine in the elantra that killed it for me, but I hated starting out/braking with them.

Would the 2.4 soon to be ka-t 240 be better? Probably but eh...

240sxDann
08-26-2008, 12:06 AM
17's stretch it for me. Maybe it was 2.slow engine in the elantra that killed it for me, but I hated starting out/braking with them.

Would the 2.4 soon to be ka-t 240 be better? Probably but eh...

lol are you serious? I have 18's now, and its never even crossed my mind. If wheels make that much of a difference you either can't drive, or need more power lol

OPZ
08-26-2008, 12:27 AM
I'm going with the second. As I said, my first set of rims was on my 2.slow. 138 hp + autotragic + 17's = fail.

I'm also extremely cheap. So tire cost comes into play also, haha.

Adam496
08-26-2008, 06:40 PM
Here is another set. Doo et.
http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/210335-rpf1-set-17x9-5-18-17x10-18-w-5x114-3-a.html

twastheglow
08-26-2008, 07:01 PM
I know mine aren't the most aggressive ever, but I'm running 18x8.5 +25 front and 18x9.5 +30 in the rear. I don't have any problems and they sit super flush. Of course, I also only have 245's in the rear. If I went larger, I would need a roll and possibly a pull.

frosti108
08-27-2008, 01:58 AM
its true the bigger the rims and the smaller the sidewall = bumpier ride. but also more responsive handling. so its a give and take...

17x9 is a great choice. you can still stretch on an inexpensive tire, but you have the ability to run some nice wide guys as well.

personally, i usually do fine with just generic 17x7s and 225/45s. all i need, and all i really care to spend the money on

anyways if anyones lookin for a decent set of 5 lug meshies i got some for sale you can have for cheap or trade :)

US_R33
08-27-2008, 11:31 AM
Here is another set. Doo et.
http://zilvia.net/f/wheels-tires/210335-rpf1-set-17x9-5-18-17x10-18-w-5x114-3-a.html
adam, he won't fit those Enkei RPF-1s on his car with out some serious pull going on and stretched tires

anyways if anyones lookin for a decent set of 5 lug meshies i got some for sale you can have for cheap or trade :)
you got some meshies??? PM me the sizes and offsets along with some pictures

- Daniel

frosti108
08-27-2008, 01:11 PM
someone should bump it for me lol http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60750&highlight=mesh+5

moorefire
08-28-2008, 09:53 AM
My avatar is 18x10 +22 on 245s on stock bodied rear w/ real mild roll (no pull) My barrels rubbed the inner wheel tub ever so slightly when I'd bottom out drifting, so I wouldn't go wider than 10 on stock rear fenders.

There are many questions you have to ask before you decide on offset:
-how much rubber do you need
-how much camber do you want
-coilovers? (front minimum offset is determined by coil clearance, but that shouldn't matter if you wanna be flush)
-Tire Stretch? (if you dont like drifter stretch spare me the high and mighty bull****)

once you figure that out, get the car aligned how you want, take a string with a weight on it, tape it to the top of the fender so the string hangs down through the center line of the wheel, and measure from the string to the top rim lip.

Take that measurement and adjust for how flush you want the wheels to be (barely flush so you can tuck wheel, or pokey out if you're gonna stretch tires.)

Then, determine what your current wheel specs are and start up sizing. You'll add half of the increase in rim width (if you go from 17x8 to 17x10, your lip will sit 1in farther outboard w/ the same offset) and add the increase in offset (if you go from +35 to +10 your rim will be roughly 1in farther outboard as well (www.onlineconversion.com for mm/in shizzle))

and BONG, perfect wheel fitment for YOUR APPLICATION. Its not rocket science

240sxDann
08-28-2008, 07:20 PM
My avatar is 18x10 +22 on 245s on stock bodied rear w/ real mild roll (no pull) My barrels rubbed the inner wheel tub ever so slightly when I'd bottom out drifting, so I wouldn't go wider than 10 on stock rear fenders.

There are many questions you have to ask before you decide on offset:
-how much rubber do you need
-how much camber do you want
-coilovers? (front minimum offset is determined by coil clearance, but that shouldn't matter if you wanna be flush)
-Tire Stretch? (if you dont like drifter stretch spare me the high and mighty bull****)

once you figure that out, get the car aligned how you want, take a string with a weight on it, tape it to the top of the fender so the string hangs down through the center line of the wheel, and measure from the string to the top rim lip.

Take that measurement and adjust for how flush you want the wheels to be (barely flush so you can tuck wheel, or pokey out if you're gonna stretch tires.)

Then, determine what your current wheel specs are and start up sizing. You'll add half of the increase in rim width (if you go from 17x8 to 17x10, your lip will sit 1in farther outboard w/ the same offset) and add the increase in offset (if you go from +35 to +10 your rim will be roughly 1in farther outboard as well (www.onlineconversion.com for mm/in shizzle))

and BONG, perfect wheel fitment for YOUR APPLICATION. Its not rocket science

thank you, that was very helpful. I'll be going with coilovers, and a 5 lug conversion. I'm trying not to run massive camber, and I'm not trying to stretch the tires much, if at all. This is a daily driven car, and will continue to be, at least for a while. I dont need super wide tires.

92jdms13
07-28-2012, 07:33 AM
I have a 92 240 vert....I was thinking of putting some ROTA rims on they are 17x9.5 +12. And I was thinking of running TOYO 225/40zr17 (tire strech).... Will it fit since I heard that the stock offset is +40 for my 240? I'm not sure

Nismo Pat
08-10-2012, 06:35 PM
I have a 92 240 vert....I was thinking of putting some ROTA rims on they are 17x9.5 +12. And I was thinking of running TOYO 225/40zr17 (tire strech).... Will it fit since I heard that the stock offset is +40 for my 240? I'm not sure

Do you have coilovers? If you are running with stock or spring/strut setup you are going to rub the spring perch in the front, with coilovers you should be able to clear just fine. I ran 17x9.5 +15 MB Battles with 245/45/17 with a mild fender roll on one of my coupes with no issues.

That being said, you may have to flatten the inside lip of the fenders, though no rolling should be necessary.

All this is assuming you aren't super low, if you are really low you could rub the inside of the wheel well/firewall.