I dumped it

[99SL2_Modder]

So, due to people always saying that I should drop my car, this is how it sat:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/rimz001.jpg
Dropped on H&R's 1.5" all around

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/coilovers001.jpg
The "Too Low" setting that I had when all 4 corners were rubbing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/coilovers002.jpg
New setting. Front raised about 1/2", maybe less. It took the rears off the rear quarters as well.

Oh, and a nice tire shot from when I was doing them:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/fail001.jpg

Still playing with the settings to make sure there's no more rub. I have to repair a CV join on the right side cause I kinda put a hole in it when I did the struts and didn't notice it til today when there was grease all over the place.

I know, I know, it still doesn't look that low. I can tell you that my pinch welds are less than 2.5" off the ground or so. The rockers are about 3 to 3.5". Maybe a bit higher. Still can't get a standard jack under them.

[CarbonIS]

lookin good clint

[The Captain]

Looks a lot better, but i think it's purple. :lol:

[99SL2_Modder]

lookin good clint

I refuse to take a picture of the left side. Too much grease. Gotta find a way to clean all that **** up.

I might have to buy new pads. ****er. Gonna hose the **** out of it when the boot gets done.

[frosti108]

now for a saturn,,, thats fuggin PIMPIN

[99SL2_Modder]

Looks a lot better, but i think it's purple. :lol:

You think?

Everyone else keeps saying, "Who drives that black saturn?"

**** man, if it was black, I wouldn't deny it. It's metallic ****ing purple, and I hate it with a passion.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/HKSassend.jpg
Purple

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/100_0509.jpg
Black.

Not that hard.

*edit*
Yeah, that was Patches McWink that I brought to a meet or two. He finally got painted, and now he sits under a cover. Get's very little play time. He needs a new name. Can't be called Patches or McWink because he's painted and both headlights work again.

[99SL2_Modder]

now for a saturn,,, thats fuggin PIMPIN

Thanks. :cool:

[The Captain]

I'm just messin with ya. In certain lights, my car can look a shade of purple too, nothin wrong with it.

[ketchup!]

i will say you lowered more but not dumped

[pearl]

looks pretty dope :thumbup:

[99SL2_Modder]

i will say you lowered more but not dumped

Then I would say your knowledge of the differences of car suspensions is extremely small.

Not all cars have to tuck to be considered dumped. If you EVER saw the underside of my car, or how the suspension reacts at all, you would know that it's impossible to have your tires tucked and drive it.

[05Accent]

looks good with a drop..

[99SL2_Modder]

Actually, my LCA's are inverted.

I should raise it a bit more, if anything.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

finally! lol nice, what suspension?

[99SL2_Modder]

finally! lol nice, what suspension?

Carrerra.

[SovXietday]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/coilovers001.jpg

That's bangin', don't raise it!

[twastheglow]

Definately looks 100x better! :thumbup:

[BlackBulletTSi]

haha bout time I think I still have a set laying around in my shed from when I was going to lower mine

[OMGz Turbo]

holy **** it only took 4 years hahahaha j.p. it looks great man stop by so i can check it out...you got my number

[99SL2_Modder]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/Grolthok/car%20stuff/coilovers001.jpg

That's bangin', don't raise it!

I had to man. It was slamming all 4 corners bad.

[DPancoast]

wow thats crazy.... looks good

[adamkob32]

Then I would say your knowledge of the differences of car suspensions is extremely small.

Not all cars have to tuck to be considered dumped. If you EVER saw the underside of my car, or how the suspension reacts at all, you would know that it's impossible to have your tires tucked and drive it.

I've driven mine absolutely slammed before without problem. May not look low to the Honda and VW crowd, but you can't really go much lower without major problems hahah. :D
http://www.team-crm.com/images/93sc2-110507/pic01.jpg

Looks good btw.

--Adam

[99SL2_Modder]

I've driven mine absolutely slammed before without problem. May not look low to the Honda and VW crowd, but you can't really go much lower without major problems hahah. :D
http://www.team-crm.com/images/93sc2-110507/pic01.jpg

Looks good btw.

--Adam

Why is it that your camera makes your car look low? Mine never does. Maybe it's my angle.

My Satillac was sitting at the same height as yours. AMR's must be monstrously stiffer, because I slammed the **** out of the wheel liners and ripped chunks of it apart in about 1 mile. I raised it significantly now. Still looks really good, but it rides SO much better.

*edit*
The "Too Low" setting had it so that turning the wheel had about 1/32" between the tire and fender. If I was lucky. I looked at my back tires today, and saw quarter marks from the bumps slamming the sidewalls of the tires. All within a mile. =(

Oh yeah, 1g coupes though...no flares on the fenders. Makes it a bit easier to make em look good, methinks.

[adamkob32]

All about the angle, and the grass in front of the camera there helps with that as well hahah.

My spring rates are 400lb front and 500lb rear, I'd imagine the Carerra came with softer possibly. You have to remember I don't daily drive or race at this height. It was only for some photos before I took the coilovers off for storage this past winter.

--Adam

[CarbonIS]

I should slam laura's car lol

[99SL2_Modder]

I should slam laura's car lol

Go to tire rack and grab some Spring Extreme 2.5's.

Unless you got that dough boy fresh thing goin on and wanna grab a set of coilovers, then you can dump 1300 bucks into a set of AMR's.

All about the angle, and the grass in front of the camera there helps with that as well hahah.

My spring rates are 400lb front and 500lb rear, I'd imagine the Carerra came with softer possibly. You have to remember I don't daily drive or race at this height. It was only for some photos before I took the coilovers off for storage this past winter.

--Adam

Yeah. They came with two different rates. There was a set of mid 200ish, and a set of mid to high 300ish as an option, which the second is what Lane had when he used modified Koni's in the housings. These feel a TON stiffer than the H&R's, which are already mid/high 200's, so I'm gonna say that they're the +300 option. The ride quality, even with the extreme stiffness of the springs, is WAY better, IMO, than the H&R's were. Turns are far flatter (even with the bull**** alignment that I have on there. I should get it checked BAD, after this install), and everything just feels nice. I had a piece of liner that I broke when I rubbed through the pop rivet get bent down, and it was hitting the tread of the RS2's. Sounded like a card in my spokes.

[Honest_Bob]

Nice tires. I want another set of those. :mrgreen:

[ILLJIM69]

looks WAY better man. clean lines and the drop helps 110%.

jim

[BeautifullyBlued]

I should slam laura's car lol

Lol I don't think I'm ready to start having to stop and avoid every little bump in the road yet, but we should start doing some things to it.

Anyway, the car looks good, 99SL2_Modder. Sorry, I don't know your name...?

[WRX_JB]

how does it ride , bumpy at all?

[99SL2_Modder]

how does it ride , bumpy at all?

Nope. Not at all. They're not el cheapo ebay coilovers. They're a 1200 dollar discontinued setup. :p I love the way it rides.

Lol I don't think I'm ready to start having to stop and avoid every little bump in the road yet, but we should start doing some things to it.

Anyway, the car looks good, 99SL2_Modder. Sorry, I don't know your name...?

Let me know if you guys need some tips and help. :p

Name's Clint.

Nice tires. I want another set of those. :mrgreen:

I LOVE these tires.

Except one is flat. Happened recently, so, I gotta wait for a new tire, lulz.

It's always something.

[DBryden]

Yeah man, I feel you're pain on not being able to go any lower. Not only is this the lowest I can go without spending $1200 on coilovers, but any lower and i'll rub. I already rub the rear on speed bumps. I do like how Saturn sets up the suspension so when you lower it, the tires are tucked or at least close, and the front still clears speed bumps and steep driveways lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/spyder3kgt/DSC00268938.jpg

[99SL2_Modder]

Yeah man, I feel you're pain on not being able to go any lower. Not only is this the lowest I can go without spending $1200 on coilovers, but any lower and i'll rub. I already rub the rear on speed bumps. I do like how Saturn sets up the suspension so when you lower it, the tires are tucked or at least close, and the front still clears speed bumps and steep driveways lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/spyder3kgt/DSC00268938.jpg

Man, the only good thing about Saturn suspension setups are that they're fully independant macpherson style. Adam and I have pointed out multiple times that our cars can't go lower than what we've posted. Not without damaging a LOT of things. At my "too low", like I said, I cracked both of my front fender liners and started shaving my rear inside fenders. Within 1-2 miles, not going over 35mph.

Don't get me wrong, the setup is nice as ****, but really, there's NOT that much space between the strut and tire. Maybe 1/4" at the most.

*edit*
Oh, you have an Ion. Yay for pictures not loading right away.

That looks nice as hell.

I didn't think it was possible to lower them properly because of what Saturn called a "semi-independent rear suspension", but everyone else in the tuner world calls it a solid ****ing metal beam rear. Thought you had to bend that **** to get it aligned after you dropped it. Unless you're just rocking hardcore negative camber.

[DBryden]

Man, the only good thing about Saturn suspension setups are that they're fully independant macpherson style. Adam and I have pointed out multiple times that our cars can't go lower than what we've posted. Not without damaging a LOT of things. At my "too low", like I said, I cracked both of my front fender liners and started shaving my rear inside fenders. Within 1-2 miles, not going over 35mph.

Don't get me wrong, the setup is nice as ****, but really, there's NOT that much space between the strut and tire. Maybe 1/4" at the most.

*edit*
Oh, you have an Ion. Yay for pictures not loading right away.

That looks nice as hell.

I didn't think it was possible to lower them properly because of what Saturn called a "semi-independent rear suspension", but everyone else in the tuner world calls it a solid ****ing metal beam rear. Thought you had to bend that **** to get it aligned after you dropped it. Unless you're just rocking hardcore negative camber.

Thanks dude...yeah, the negative camber in the rear is noticeable if you're looking for it, but it's not TERRIBLE. Just enough to make for some good handling, but not enough to wear one side of the tire too much.

It was a monster truck when I bought it, so I'm pretty happy with how it looks after I put the B&Gs on it.

[BlkWhtTSI]

looks good i like it.

Dbryden your car looks awesome at that hieght i wouldn't go lower or higher leave it

[99SL2_Modder]

Thanks dude...yeah, the negative camber in the rear is noticeable if you're looking for it, but it's not TERRIBLE. Just enough to make for some good handling, but not enough to wear one side of the tire too much.

It was a monster truck when I bought it, so I'm pretty happy with how it looks after I put the B&Gs on it.

Yeah, my mom has a QC3 with a CAI.

Hers doesn't sit terribly high, but it's still high.

[illmatic1690]

ive never seen a saturn dropped

[TypeSL_T]

Lol I don't think I'm ready to start having to stop and avoid every little bump in the road yet, but we should start doing some things to it.

I would start with a DOHC swap. And if you don't have one already, convert to a 5-speed when you do the engine swap.

James

[TypeSL_T]

ive never seen a saturn dropped

edit: just re-read what I quoted and I read it as dumped. So nevermind my post.
James

[99SL2_Modder]

I would start with a DOHC swap. And if you don't have one already, convert to a 5-speed when you do the engine swap.

James

Agreed, however, she doesn't need to change out the whole engine to swap to DOHC.

She could just put a DOHC head and timing kit on it, and have a nitrous ready longblock. It's not that much lower compression than stock anyway.

[max2k1]

The car looks good clint. Too bad I wont see you cruising down RT13 anymore with it:(

[driftingrx5.7]

did you have a camber kit also? the wheels look pretty str8 nice work

[boostinsidewayz]

She could just put a DOHC head and timing kit on it, and have a nitrous ready longblock. It's not that much lower compression than stock anyway.

:roll:

nitrous likes high compression, FI likes low compression

[99SL2_Modder]

:roll:

nitrous likes high compression, FI likes low compression

Doesn't matter. You can put both on either way, if you know what you're doing.

Still easier to just swap a head than find an engine.

[99SL2_Modder]

The car looks good clint. Too bad I wont see you cruising down RT13 anymore with it:(

Why not?

[boostinsidewayz]

Doesn't matter. You can put both on either way, if you know what you're doing.

Still easier to just swap a head than find an engine.

true, it is easier to swap a head. and you can use FI or nitrous on any motor, but stop spreading useless :bs:

nitrous is better suited for high compression, so if you want it to be most effective, use it on high comp engines.

[max2k1]

Why not?

Oh I didnt know you hadnt heard...

I was involved in a hit and run 2 days before christmas. The SRT is totaled and I became paralyzed from the waist down...

Im actually in the hospital right now because of complications from the accident. I have to have part of my foot removed sometime this week

[99SL2_Modder]

did you have a camber kit also? the wheels look pretty str8 nice work

No. I think I need one though. They're still a little negative, but I haven't looked yet.

Factory adjustments are wicked on these cars. You can align for a large range of drops without one.

Oh I didnt know you hadnt heard...

I was involved in a hit and run 2 days before christmas. The SRT is totaled and I became paralyzed from the waist down...

Im actually in the hospital right now because of complications from the accident. I have to have part of my foot removed sometime this week

What?

No ****ing way dude. That ****in sucks man. Let me know if you need somethin or whatever, bro. You've been the coolest ****er ever since that night on the parkway with Dex.

true, it is easier to swap a head. and you can use FI or nitrous on any motor, but stop spreading useless :bs:

nitrous is better suited for high compression, so if you want it to be most effective, use it on high comp engines.

It's not useless BS. It's the truth. She'd have lower compression, and even still with nitrous, she'd have less change of detonation with that. Yes, it may be better suited for higher compression, but it doesn't matter.

Stop trying to **** in my threads just because you have a hard-on for me from 6S. Keep it to one forum.

[SoStock92]

ugh this post belongs in your member journal

[boostinsidewayz]

It's not useless BS. It's the truth. She'd have lower compression, and even still with nitrous, she'd have less change of detonation with that. Yes, it may be better suited for higher compression, but it doesn't matter.

Stop trying to **** in my threads just because you have a hard-on for me from 6S. Keep it to one forum.


i don't care about the street racing crap from 6s, just tired of you trying to act like you know what you're talking about. you don't know dick about our cars performance wise, stick to suspension

[99SL2_Modder]

i don't care about the street racing crap from 6s, just tired of you trying to act like you know what you're talking about. you don't know dick about our cars performance wise, stick to suspension

Yes, I do.

You would be surprised. Ask 90% of the people that have been around FAR long than you.

Stay out of my threads if you're going to just be a ****ing douchetard.

If you were actually in the scene for a decent amount of time, you'd have seen the build that I wrote up for my car that I'm actually working on. It was on TSN.

It was fairly close to what Ian is building now, with other differences. It eclipsed Ian's 388 build, but his new build, I'm fairly certain, will destroy even mine.

And before you even start **** with that, suspension on my car needed to be done, period. Braking and handling before speed is always my priority. That, and the fact that I don't have a lot of money to get the project rolling easy (as anyone can tell you that the manual swap took like 2 years or so of parts gathering), nor do I have a daily driver, since this car would NOT be even CLOSE to one.

I've already done a lot of research into the OBDII system to run it without codes. It's just time and money that I don't currently have.

Learn who you're talking to before you try making bull**** up. Kob should be able to back me up on most of this, since he's been around longer than I have (I think).

[OMGz Turbo]

Boostin- Just give up, saying clint doesnt know what hes talking about is a myth...he knows these cars in a and out....trust me

[Jeff822]

Thats how my girls car is. It has B&G 1.5" springs and KYB gr-2's. You can tell it lowered by looking at the wheel wells but looking at the front bumper/sideskirts it doesn't even look lowered.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d130/skateesc/PICT0684.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d130/skateesc/PICT0675.jpg

[adamkob32]

Clint, boostin knows a whole ton about the s-series, and the engine and getting the absolute most out of it. If I were anyone in the community now, I'd be listening to him about running nitrous on that engine.

As for your build, I've been on TSN forever and don't remember ever seeing anything about this build your talking about. All the problems you've been having lately with the car are if you ask me, incredibly noobish with easy explainations and solutions. Half assed work or something, I don't know, but it's very simple stuff I've never even heard of before on the s-series.

I think both of you need to take a chill or something. Not worth fighting about and causing a big rukus.

--Adam

[99SL2_Modder]

Thats how my girls car is. It has B&G 1.5" springs and KYB gr-2's. You can tell it lowered by looking at the wheel wells but looking at the front bumper/sideskirts it doesn't even look lowered.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d130/skateesc/PICT0684.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d130/skateesc/PICT0675.jpg

I've always wondered how the B&G's ride. Never saw many people go with them. Always H&R, Eibach, or Sprints. Gotta love the GR-2's though.

Been hearin some good stuff about the Monroe's now. I know the fronts are back to stock on the Monroe's, but I heard they dampen far better than the GR-2's.

Clint, boostin knows a whole ton about the s-series, and the engine and getting the absolute most out of it. If I were anyone in the community now, I'd be listening to him about running nitrous on that engine.

As for your build, I've been on TSN forever and don't remember ever seeing anything about this build your talking about. All the problems you've been having lately with the car are if you ask me, incredibly noobish with easy explainations and solutions. Half assed work or something, I don't know, but it's very simple stuff I've never even heard of before on the s-series.

I think both of you need to take a chill or something. Not worth fighting about and causing a big rukus.

--Adam

Half assed tools. Most of my **** is at work, my ramps are missing, so everything I do anymore is on a jack with one side in the air, and I only bring what I need usually. I rarely work on my own car anymore. Always working on a V-dub or a Honda. Or, at work, equipment that is 20-30x the size/weight of my car.

Most of the issues I'm having are frustration/heat related brainfarts. I hate working on blacktop driveways, and I hate being without my car. I try to rush, and I **** up when I do it.

As far as that post, I don't remember what forum it was in. It has 2 possible outcomes. Huge power, or huge explosion. It was titled: "ten oh twenty". Made turbo lag not a big problem and had a fairly decent spool range using a diesel hybrid. Estimated by I THINK Mike to be in the low 500's at the wheel. Ian's probably hitting that now anyway, so it doesn't even matter. It's a pretty decent build, but like I said, at that kind of power, I need a second car.

[Jeff822]

They actually don't ride rough at all, its pretty smooth and it handles good for a Saturn. Some bump it scrapes and bangs but what can you expect from PennDot roads.

[adamkob32]

As far as that post, I don't remember what forum it was in. It has 2 possible outcomes. Huge power, or huge explosion. It was titled: "ten oh twenty". Made turbo lag not a big problem and had a fairly decent spool range using a diesel hybrid. Estimated by I THINK Mike to be in the low 500's at the wheel. Ian's probably hitting that now anyway, so it doesn't even matter. It's a pretty decent build, but like I said, at that kind of power, I need a second car.

So what happened? That woulda been a pretty sweet build!

--Adam

[99SL2_Modder]

So what happened? That woulda been a pretty sweet build!

--Adam

Money and no second reliable car. The first is easy to get around. The second, not so much.

I discussed a lot of things with teh ashun on his cell phone when he was still working at the bank. Along with Sam Bretz for the head design that's in my garage. Sam's most aggressive P&P ever for maximum flow. I have to check the intake side, but I THINK he smoothed out the 90* downturn.

[adamkob32]

Money and no second reliable car. The first is easy to get around. The second, not so much.

I discussed a lot of things with teh ashun on his cell phone when he was still working at the bank. Along with Sam Bretz for the head design that's in my garage. Sam's most aggressive P&P ever for maximum flow. I have to check the intake side, but I THINK he smoothed out the 90* downturn.

Pretty cool. I really smoothened that out on the head I just did for my car. Surprisingly it's not a sharp radius on our heads, actually wasn't too bad how it was.

--Adam

[Willdue]

Just slam it. When you have to replace pans every 100 miles, then your to low.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z19/mrdanielface_w00t/IMG_3099.jpg

[adamkob32]

Just slam it. When you have to replace pans every 100 miles, then your to low.

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z19/mrdanielface_w00t/IMG_3099.jpg

And that is useless to anyone looking for performance from their car. Too much lowering is a horrible thing.

--Adam

[Willdue]

Meh, its sweet riding low. I guess its a dub thing haha

[BlackVr96]

Meh, its sweet riding low. I guess its a dub thing haha


agreed.

[99SL2_Modder]

Maybe your suspensions allow for good performance that low.

Or maybe you just don't care. I love being able to have my car stick in turns, so maximum drop with the optimum handling is my priority. If that means that it will have more wheel gap, so be it.