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CHAOS
11-06-2007, 02:04 PM
http://www.topgear.com/blogs/drives/124-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti/

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Alright, time to go on the record and say that I almost like the looks of this new Impreza STi.

I said 'almost'. And part of the reason I almost like the look of it is because I've driven it.

Even ten minutes behind the wheel of this car will have you feeling that the looks don't matter too much - it's got wider, flared arches than the standard car, so it's probably better as a result. Put it this way: the fuel filler cap is convex rather than concave.

Besides, we're all used to ugly Subaru Imprezas, ever since the goggle-eyed squinter that was the second generation car shocked the hell out of us six years ago.

Subaru has been trounced in the WRC recently, partly because the saloon-shape current car has too much front and rear overhang. Note that the winning Citroens and Fords are all compact hatches. Subaru has.

The new five-door hatch has a longer wheelbase than the outgoing saloon - important for rallying - and is also shorter overall. So it has more of a wheel-at-each corner stance. That helps the road car, too. You can feel that it holds its line slightly better than before, and turns in a little bit more positively.

The engine I sampled in Japan was the Japanese-spec 2.0-litre, which develops 304bhp and 311lb ft of torque, driving through a six-speed manual gearbox with a shorter throw than before. It's a great gearchange, meaty and positive, and the engine is even better.

It sounds both quieter and more, er, 'zimmy', for lack of a better word, than the growly, deep-voiced STis I remember. It's not unpleasant, and a good deal of the change is down to better engine isolation and more sound deadening, but it takes you aback slightly at first. It's still undoubtedly a Scoob boxer in its voice, but less so. We're told the 2.5 we get - which makes about the same power and torque - will sound gruntier.

It revs cleanly and quickly to 8000rpm and it goes very, very hard, like every STi should. We took it round the track at Fuji Speedway, which gave us plenty of chance to sample the new tech, all of which add great chunks of desirability to the new machine.

Tech part one: the centre diff. Using switches on the centre console you can set it to auto, auto plus, auto minus and manual. Auto is the standard setting, with 59 per cent of drive sent rearward and the diff set neutrally. Auto plus tightens the diff for more traction in slippery conditions. Auto minus loosens the rear diff for when you're facing a challenging, twisty road with plenty of grip and want more turn-in and a smidge more adjustability at the back.

Then there's manual: you can adjust the percentage of rear bias to suit your mood, over six steps, the most extreme throwing 70 per cent of drive to the rear. Cool.

The other big news is called SI-Drive. This alters the engine and throttle mapping to three settings. 'I' is basically 'City' mode.

What it does is loosen-off the throttle pedal sensitivity for town driving - it also alters the way the boost comes in, bringing it to full torque more gently. This is a superb feature, which makes a mewling baby out of the car for normal commuting, where the old car was a bit of an animal.

Two other settings, Sport and Sport Sharp, give you more throttle response and more immediate boost, with 'Sharp' the setting of choice for track work.

Get the picture? The car's a proper technical tour de force. But the tech stuff actually works. It's a better STi than before, and that makes it one of the world's great performance cars, end of story.

05GT
11-06-2007, 02:36 PM
Bet it doesn't handle as good as the GT500....or Dylan's hair. :lol:

CHAOS
11-06-2007, 02:49 PM
lol you ass....



anyway it sounds pretty impressive. i cant wait to drive one.

TROLL
11-06-2007, 02:51 PM
dont feel like i'm missing out on the new buttons at least... they're just extra automated options i guess. no surprise that it performs, hopefully it'll get good reviews all around.

CarbonIS
11-06-2007, 02:53 PM
its sounds super awesome and I think everyone should own one! :-p

Ender81
11-06-2007, 02:54 PM
Pretty good review, it's not too suprising though. I still think it's ugly as sin lol (but nothing that a sawzall for the hatch and a front end redesign wouldn't take care of.)

MPowerKai
11-06-2007, 02:57 PM
its sounds super awesome and I think everyone should own one! :-p

Give me yours when you get the new one :mrgreen: :banana:

PaleDSM
11-06-2007, 05:14 PM
I guess the good news is that you can't see how ugly it is from the driver's seat.

DaveSTi
11-06-2007, 05:37 PM
Doubt it outperforms a simple stg2 sti with coilovers and sways.

Renegade_
11-06-2007, 06:34 PM
Doubt it outperforms a simple stg2 sti with coilovers and sways.
Give it similar mods and it will.

05GT
11-07-2007, 08:54 AM
Give it similar mods and it will.

That's what I was thinking.

I hate when people compare a modded car to a stock one like that.

CHAOS
11-07-2007, 09:01 AM
whether or not it performs as well/worse/better than a stage 2 sti... remains to be seen..

ozthunder
11-07-2007, 09:43 AM
Well..it looks like trash, but it should be an awesome drive.

And as I said before, Subaru doing this kinda puzzles me, especially using the WRC idea.

DaveSTi
11-07-2007, 09:59 AM
Give it similar mods and it will.

We'll see.

Reason I said that was because in order for me to drive that monstrosity of car design, it better beat mine pretty handily.

doug
11-07-2007, 06:18 PM
I think it looks unique.. and I'm glad subie is trying to step it back up in the WRC. If I didn't have a Limited, I'd trade mine in and get one..

redline
11-07-2007, 06:35 PM
Sounds impressive, it's going to need it to keep up with the X on a track:-p

dt98gsr
11-07-2007, 09:42 PM
Glad to here it performs well from a good judge of performance, but thats not really a surprise to me. I'm just waiting to see one in person to see how I really feel about the new look.

venomhiss
11-08-2007, 12:18 AM
i still would take an evo..

doug
11-08-2007, 12:34 AM
Evo will get slain in WRC.. just like always.. :P

ozthunder
11-08-2007, 12:43 AM
lol, and Subaru will defeat Ford and Citroen?

probevette
11-08-2007, 06:13 AM
Its still ugly as balls

Kiel
11-10-2007, 02:36 PM
Cars like the new WRX make my bugeye more valuable. If you're gonna drive an ugly Subaru, do it right.

ozthunder
11-10-2007, 02:43 PM
I just read a review of the new WRX in October's Automobile and they dig the improvements, just not the style. They also aren't sold on the less communicative driver feel.

CHAOS
11-10-2007, 02:45 PM
they need to start looking at the aftermarket modifications and see where theyve gone wrong

attention subaru:

I WOULDNT NEED BUSHINGS IF YOU BUILT A PROPER SPORTS CAR, I WOULDNT NEED DIFFERENT STRUTS IF YOU DIDNT **** THAT UP, AND I WOULDNT NEED MORE POWER IF YOU WOULD PUT A BIGGER TURBOCHARGER AND A BETTER TUNE ON THE THING

ozthunder
11-10-2007, 02:48 PM
lol..don't get me started on a manufacturer screwing up in "translation"..ala your center diff, my struts..

Not to mention your car wasn't made to look like a 97 Grand Am. lol

CHAOS
11-10-2007, 02:56 PM
i looks like a brick drove thru a jar of fluffernutter and then into a vat of liquid nitrogen and everything just froze

horhay
11-10-2007, 06:29 PM
i looks like a brick drove thru a jar of fluffernutter and then into a vat of liquid nitrogen and everything just froze

not sure I can visualize that...

I think the new STI looks pretty mean, better (IMO) than the Evo X. Don't think for a second that means I want to trade mine in though.

BTW, its funny when Subaru drivers say a car is ugly, because, well, we drive ugly cars. No Impreza since the 01 RS has been capable of being called a good looking car.

ozthunder
11-10-2007, 08:32 PM
I dunno Brian..your car looks fairly decent IMHO. As does Jon's..that 04/05 style is tits.

horhay
11-10-2007, 08:47 PM
the 04/05 is my fav of the new gen cars, but I think the older car looks worlds better. Then again, I dislike the styling of pretty much all new cars these days.

ozthunder
11-10-2007, 08:48 PM
Yea..I hear ya on that one. I don't necessarily love that GC style though..I dunno..it looks so...plastic? I dunno..I hate auto styling lol

horhay
11-10-2007, 09:00 PM
You know me, I'm a sucker for late 90's cars. I would trade my car for a 99-01 coupe or wagon with a full STi swap (interior and all) in a heartbeat.

ozthunder
11-10-2007, 09:04 PM
lol..well yea, you loved that little thing you had before.

BTW, how about my company Nissan throwing down?

lol..these people don't know about my Nissan fanboyness.