View Full Version : 2012 Hyundai Genesis Coupe will get a V8.
c7scayman
09-16-2011, 03:54 PM
The Redesigned 2012 Genesis Coupe will get a V8 accordiing to this source.
I kind of like the new front end. Makes it look tougher.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/hyundai/2012-hyundai-genesis-coupe-ar101325.html
jpalamar
09-16-2011, 03:59 PM
Love how the article at the bottom compared the V8 new Geni to a V6 Mustang.
devildog214
09-16-2011, 04:02 PM
nice, i knew the sedan was getting the 5.0 but i didnt think they had the balls to put it in the coupe. Looks like dodge and chevy are getting beat not by only ford but hyundai in the V8 rwd segment. (edit) just read all the way down, 8 speed auto? meh and yeah no mention of the mustang 5.0 for some reason.
Renegade_
09-16-2011, 04:22 PM
Auto is fine.
Someones gonna find a way to mate a T56 to it anyway.
SpEcRv9
09-16-2011, 04:39 PM
Rumors about the 5.0 are still rumors...nothing is confirmed about the 5.0 yet.
This article just assumes the 5.0 is going to be in the gen coupe...
accordguy04
09-16-2011, 04:59 PM
I heard it wasn't in the coupe, because they couldn't get it to fit in the front. But Greddy or HKS (i forget which) put one in as a mid-engine :D makin 500 hp. Mmmm.
SpEcRv9
09-16-2011, 05:21 PM
Rhys Millen racing mid mounted a 4.6..but that's it.
There has been no attempt to put a 5.0 in this car yet.
tristatesentra
09-16-2011, 06:07 PM
wow hyundai is moving up in the world
Chris B.
09-17-2011, 11:08 AM
The 5.0 V8 will make it an off balanced and nose heavy car. There goes the handling.
Scores240
09-17-2011, 12:26 PM
^ doubt it
Tires2theSky
09-17-2011, 12:29 PM
The 5.0 V8 will make it an off balanced and nose heavy car. There goes the handling.
I agree, they should just use the 2.0T from the sonata with the 274hp for the base and a 6 cyl. Turbo for the performance model. I would rather buy a 6 cyl turbo model pushing around 400hp over the heavy v8.
Scores240
09-17-2011, 12:36 PM
Off your basis of a v8 making the car nose heavy and handle like crap then why do rx7's and 240's with swapped lsx's work so well?
You don't even know the weight difference of the engines and even it is a little heavier than the 4 banger with all the turbo stuff hanging off they can dial the suspension back in different spring rates and shocks.
Spawne32
09-17-2011, 12:59 PM
this is ridiculous, im dumping all this money into modding my car and im gona get my ass handed to me by some soccer mom in a hyundai, 400+hp 5.0 v8, 8, yes ****in 8 speed, automatic trans.
SpEcRv9
09-17-2011, 03:13 PM
this is ridiculous, im dumping all this money into modding my car and im gona get my ass handed to me by some soccer mom in a hyundai, 400+hp 5.0 v8, 8, yes ****in 8 speed, automatic trans.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w130/patruck9/Sn0aZ.gif
Chris B.
09-17-2011, 03:23 PM
Off your basis of a v8 making the car nose heavy and handle like crap then why do rx7's and 240's with swapped lsx's work so well?
RX-8's with V8 motors don't gain much weight overall if you use an LS motor with an aluminum block, aluminum heads and composite intake manifold and the slight increase in weight doesn't change the weight balance that much because much of the weight is behind the front shock towers. That won't be the case with a V8 in the Genesis coupe.
You don't even know the weight difference of the engines and even it is a little heavier than the 4 banger with all the turbo stuff hanging off they can dial the suspension back in different spring rates and shocks.
It will be heavier than the 6 cylinder and more nose heavy than the 6 cylinder. I've seen slightly different independent results for the weight balance of the Genesis coupe with the 2.0 and 3.8 engines. I guess they vary depending on how full the gas tank is and the transmission and other options. You can also compare the 5.0 Tau V8 to other all aluminum V8 engines of other manufacturers and estimate the weight range it would be. Unless its made of unobtanium, its going to be 400+ lbs with accessories, maybe over 450 lbs.
The 2.0T with a manual trans is 54/46 to 55/45 F/R
The 3.8 V6 is 55/45 to 57/43 F/R
The 5.0 V8 will be heavier than the 3.8 V6 obviously. Also, they can't go and move the firewall back on a production vehicle to change the weight balance for the V8 versions. So most of the additional weight will be ahead of the front wheels. Unless they are completely redesigning the Genesis coupe from the ground up (not just a restyling with new sheet metal which it looks like so far) for 2012 to specifically accommodate the 5.0 V8, there is a good chance its weight balance will be close to 60/40 F/R. Yes, you can compensate for that, but its not going to be anywhere as nimble as the 2.0T version and it will feel nose heavy when pushed.
You will also have the added weight to the car from the heavier and stronger transmission and more weight on the nose from a larger radiator and more coolant.
Face it, you can't do a V8 swap in a car where most of the addition weight is in front of the front shock towers and expect to keep the same weight balance as a 4 or 6 cylinder.
Fujito
09-17-2011, 03:40 PM
Who cares about handling I just wanna go fast!
fitftw
09-17-2011, 04:37 PM
The Genesis is looking more and more tasty as the years go by. I'll probably own one of these 5.0's in about 10 years.
jzamorski113
09-17-2011, 05:48 PM
This article is lies. There's been rumors of the v8 since the car came out. Hyundai said it couldn't fit. Also, the picture is fake. Autoblog even posted that picture on their site as a new look, I don't know who their source is but its a picture that some guy photoshopped. Don't get your hopes up for a v8 before the car is totally refreshed. I will not be pursuing a v8 and just doing FI on my v6.
rickeo
09-17-2011, 06:58 PM
Who cares about handling I just wanna go fast!
:bigeek:
Fujito
09-17-2011, 09:16 PM
:bigeek:
Hey tough guy <3
Spawne32
09-17-2011, 10:44 PM
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w130/patruck9/Sn0aZ.gif
http://www.hostthenpost.org/uploads/c129eb9ecd5136062c94df4db0761fc1.gif (http://hostthenpost.org)
cossh014
09-18-2011, 12:39 AM
I want one so bad.
I keep seeing the turbo-ed coups around and I drool slightly haha.
BLACKGOAT
09-18-2011, 12:30 PM
Thatll be a nice ride
c7scayman
09-19-2011, 10:11 AM
This article is lies. There's been rumors of the v8 since the car came out. Hyundai said it couldn't fit. Also, the picture is fake. Autoblog even posted that picture on their site as a new look, I don't know who their source is but its a picture that some guy photoshopped. Don't get your hopes up for a v8 before the car is totally refreshed. I will not be pursuing a v8 and just doing FI on my v6.
Yes it is true that Hyundai said it could not fit, but that is in the 1st gen. This is a redesigned model. They will make it fit.
sqc151
09-19-2011, 10:30 AM
me in the V6... id like to test drive the V8 now please.
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa474/sqc151/P7265498.jpg
jzamorski113
09-19-2011, 11:19 AM
Yes it is true that Hyundai said it could not fit, but that is in the 1st gen. This is a redesigned model. They will make it fit.
Its a refresh not redesign. I can't imagine them stretching the engine bay when all they are really doing is changing some exterior things. That picture is a fake anyway, I doubt the changes are anything near as much as that. Expect to see the same gdi v6 from the sedan, and if we are lucky they might upgrade the 2.0t to the same engine as the sonata.
c7scayman
09-20-2011, 12:54 PM
Now they are talking about this car on Edmunds' www.Insideline.com
mcperson2k
09-20-2011, 01:01 PM
Now they are talking about this car on Edmunds' www.Insideline.com
Its not possible because TST says its fake.
SpEcRv9
09-20-2011, 01:56 PM
Its not possible because TST says its fake.
the refresh has been posted on all the major blogs...and so has the V8 RUMOR, with ZERO confirmation otherwise...there has been nothing remotely pointing toward it actually happening.
so as far as anyone is concerned...the v8 genesis IS fake, since uh...you know...IT DOESN'T EXIST.
DaBombDiggidy
09-20-2011, 02:11 PM
This would break the rules of cheap/reliable/fast. not coming out
edit. that or the price tag will be well over 35k seeing as their v6 was already over 30 so id take a stang over it anyway n have cash left over for a blower vs the hyundai imo
nissamax
09-20-2011, 02:26 PM
front end looks hidious
Chris B.
09-20-2011, 10:01 PM
This would break the rules of cheap/reliable/fast. not coming out
edit. that or the price tag will be well over 35k seeing as their v6 was already over 30 so id take a stang over it anyway n have cash left over for a blower vs the hyundai imo
For a little more than $35K, you could get a 5.0 GT 'stang and have the dealer install the FRPP 525 HP supercharger package and keep your factory warranty.
SpEcRv9
09-20-2011, 10:05 PM
seeing as their v6 was already over 30 so id take a stang over it anyway n have cash left over for a blower vs the hyundai imo
The v6 starts in the lower 26s...
SpEcRv9
09-20-2011, 10:06 PM
For a little more than $35K, you could get a 5.0 GT 'stang and have the dealer install the FRPP 525 HP supercharger package and keep your factory warranty.
And then you could blow your China man transmission all over the road which ford won't cover.
SpEcRv9
09-20-2011, 10:07 PM
And yes I realize the irony in making fun of the crap Chinese transmission in the mustang, while my Korean trans is assuredly not any better. :lol:
92accordex
09-20-2011, 10:36 PM
Lol yeah plus Im almost positive that the 2012 genesis is already out in dealerships..with a v6 or the 2.0t and the v8 in the sedan
Chris B.
09-20-2011, 10:42 PM
And then you could blow your China man transmission all over the road which ford won't cover.
Actually, you keep the full bumper to bumper warranty, transmission included.
I find it interesting that people keep bringing up the 5.0 GT's transmission when the actual percentage of people with modified 5.0 GT's that have transmission issues is so small. There were some Mustangs that had the wrong transmission fluid put in at the factory the first model year and that may have been part of the reason for the bad reputation. However the actual percentage of people with transmission issues with the new Getrag transmission is no worse than many other higher powered newer cars the first model year after a drivetrain change.
BlkWhtTSI
09-21-2011, 07:43 AM
That front end is hideous.
c7scayman
09-21-2011, 08:33 AM
The 2nd gen Tiburons had lots of problems with their manual transmissions with the clutches wearing out quickly. At least that is what I read on many forums and reviews when I was looking into getting one years ago. Does anyone know if the Genesis has that problem?
DaBombDiggidy
09-21-2011, 09:07 AM
The v6 starts in the lower 26s...
eh 26 for bare bones but 32 with all bells and whistles i dont see why they would sell a v8 version for anywhere under 32 then and im sure markup would be insane. look if its 30 ill be the first one at the door to buy one of these with the 5.0 but honestly i just dont see it happening.
DaBombDiggidy
09-21-2011, 09:10 AM
The 2nd gen Tiburons had lots of problems with their manual transmissions with the clutches wearing out quickly. At least that is what I read on many forums and reviews when I was looking into getting one years ago. Does anyone know if the Genesis has that problem?
their manual trans set up is still **** via computer i dunno about mechanically though. theres something programmed in the ecu that forces you to be completly off the throttle to shift among some other things to my knowledge they havent learned how to tune out. In the end though there really arent that many high hp genesis' yet with the 2.0 so once theres more people pushing the trans' well know how well they hold.
SpEcRv9
09-21-2011, 01:42 PM
eh 26 for bare bones but 32 with all bells and whistles i dont see why they would sell a v8 version for anywhere under 32 then and im sure markup would be insane. look if its 30 ill be the first one at the door to buy one of these with the 5.0 but honestly i just dont see it happening.
the "bare bones" 3.8 is still pretty well equipped...almost as well as a base 5.0 (minus the 420hp of course) the 5.0 genesis isn't going to happen any time soon, if at all, especially as soon as 2013 with this new front end...like the owners who have been on top of this **** have been saying...but nobody wants to listen to us.
their manual trans set up is still **** via computer i dunno about mechanically though. theres something programmed in the ecu that forces you to be completly off the throttle to shift among some other things to my knowledge they havent learned how to tune out.
while their manual trans isn't stellar...it's not ****...it's better than a lot of gearboxes I've used...but it's worse than a few as well...
In the end though there really arent that many high hp genesis' yet with the 2.0 so once theres more people pushing the trans' well know how well they hold.
there are a handful of near 600hp genesis' and plenty in the 400 area (and in reality if you're building your car up that much, you should strengthen the transmission)....but the transmission and the power it can take hasn't been the issue yet...the clutch is the weak point, and gives out at roughly 290wtq which is basically TBE/FMIC and a tune...and the internals are only good till around 400...
people expect this first gen 23k car to come with 35k level refinement from hyundai, now as an owner I certainly didn't , so I don't know why a bunch of people on the internet do....
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 05:45 PM
http://i.autoblog.com/2011/09/26/supercharged-hyundai-genesis-coupe-in-the-works/
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 08:03 PM
And weigh............ 5000lbs.
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 08:04 PM
And weigh............ 5000lbs.
Since when do superchargers weigh 1600lbs?
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 08:22 PM
The 2.0T and 3.8 Genesis are heavy, it might as well be a G35. The car looks a lot like one. Every new motor and platform things get heavier.
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 08:53 PM
The 2.0T and 3.8 Genesis are heavy, it might as well be a G35. The car looks a lot like one. Every new motor and platform things get heavier.
My car is 3300lbs..not light...but not heavy by any means with cars today......the 3.8s probably have 100lbs more on the 2.0...so like I said not light...but certainly not as overweight as some new cars...
Again I say..a revised motor w/ supercharger and possibly a few new creature comforts adds 1600lbs how? You're acting like its going to become a porker because of a s/c setup...get real.
And what does that slight extra weight (certainly not 1600lbs) mean when its rumored to he 430+hp? The platform is staying the same...other than a very slight weight increase and a massive power increase...the car has nowhere to find that extra 3/4 ton like you wish...
fitftw
09-26-2011, 09:09 PM
it'll be like a Korean Corvette. Around 3300lbs 400+hp
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 09:25 PM
Yeah, tack on another 200lbs for the V8 and whatever other garbage they stuff in, buttscratchers for the seats, whatever.
It is a 1971 chevelle by the time you are done.
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 09:56 PM
THERE IS NO V8.
if you'd bother to read things other than the thread title you might see that.
anything else you'd like to be over dramatic about?....the magical weight gain4000 genesis coupe isn't coming out.
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 10:05 PM
Nothing other than the Genesis sucks, it takes a ton of work to make them fast and they really ripped off the G35 horribly. Oh, did I mention it's a korean G35, but not as good? Just sayin.
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 10:08 PM
lol U mad bruh?
yeah, u mad....anything else you'd like to establish to further point out you don't know what you're talking about?
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 11:03 PM
No, everyone knows the genesis sucks. Just stating facts, that is all.
c7scayman
09-26-2011, 11:09 PM
Nothing other than the Genesis sucks, it takes a ton of work to make them fast and they really ripped off the G35 horribly. Oh, did I mention it's a korean G35, but not as good? Just sayin.
Well it was made to compete with the G37. At least that is what edmunds thinks since they compared the two. Video test should be on insideline.com video's section.
I think would choose the Genesis Coupe over a G35 or even G37 Coupe. Just look at Specrv9's avatar picture. It is amazing. Such a nice design.
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 11:12 PM
Well it was made to compete with the G37. At least that is what edmunds thinks since they compared the two. Video test should be on insideline.com video's section.
I think would choose the Genesis Coupe over a G35 or even G37 Coupe. Just look at Specrv9's avatar picture. It is amazing. Such a nice design.
That is like being asked which dick you want to suck. I don't want either.
I drove a G35 and it is such a numb no feedback lifeless thing. The only thing asian I can drive is a Subaru, the rest feel weird.
You drive a cayman, you should understand.
c7scayman
09-26-2011, 11:21 PM
That is like being asked which dick you want to suck. I don't want either.
I drove a G35 and it is such a numb no feedback lifeless thing. The only thing asian I can drive is a Subaru, the rest feel weird.
You drive a cayman, you should understand.
I felt the same way when I drove G35. Not as fun as I thought it would be. I have not driven the Genesis Coupe so I don't know how steering feedback is for it.
Unfortunately, I do not drive the $60,000 Cayman S or $50,000 Cayman Base. I wish I did. I made my username years ago when I was 16 or 17 when it was my dream car. The Cayman S, or R still is my dream car, but I drive a $9700 986 Boxster Base. Still amazing steering feedback and response.
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 11:34 PM
No, everyone knows the genesis sucks. Just stating facts, that is all.
That is like being asked which dick you want to suck. I don't want either.
lol @ all the hate for the genesis because you came in here and made yourself look stupid.
...and are still doing so...
rebelalliance
09-26-2011, 11:37 PM
Whatever makes you sleep at night with your "Korean Supra".
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 11:38 PM
http://amoremoney.com/cars/images/3392984_1.jpg
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6180/6188004944_ab1bf679d6_b.jpg
only a retard would think they look the same....but then again....I'm dealing with a guy who thinks adding a s/c or v8 would add 1600lbs to a car.
SpEcRv9
09-26-2011, 11:41 PM
Whatever makes you sleep at night with your "Korean Supra".
I can see you need to bash the genesis without any real facts to back it up to help you sleep at night, to make you feel good about your entry level 70s P car.....but then again, you think my car looks like a g35...you probably thought you were buying a 911....
oh well, I can't help ignorance that doesn't want to be helped.
jpalamar
09-27-2011, 11:09 AM
So much entertainment over a car that isn't being made. THANK YOU!
rebelalliance
09-27-2011, 11:27 AM
I can see you need to bash the genesis without any real facts to back it up to help you sleep at night, to make you feel good about your entry level 70s P car.....but then again, you think my car looks like a g35...you probably thought you were buying a 911....
oh well, I can't help ignorance that doesn't want to be helped.
I knew exactly what I was buying, and in fact don't want a 911. Know why? They do not handle as good as the 914, they are more expensive, heavier, the motor is in the wrong location............ Oh and the fact that a prepared 914 is an insane track car, and you have no idea what a 917 is or was, and what 914's do.
Should I go on? Wait I don't need to, I sleep fine at night knowing I have the VW Porsche, especially knowing what they can do. I don't have to tell myself or others I have a korean supra.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1xI8plRtwk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuvXCUUOh3c
Just sayin, when your korean supra can touch anything like that come at me. Or any hyundai really. Because this is how 914's go when they are not restored and bone stock.
c7scayman
09-27-2011, 12:41 PM
So much entertainment over a car that isn't being made. THANK YOU!
haha. I accidentally started a war.
DaBombDiggidy
09-27-2011, 12:56 PM
Nothing other than the Genesis sucks, it takes a ton of work to make them fast and they really ripped off the G35 horribly. Oh, did I mention it's a korean G35, but not as good? Just sayin.
your comparison of a 45 thousand dollar car to a 20 thousand dollar car is spot on.
edit: your trash talking posting videos of other peoples cars. enough said
rebelalliance
09-27-2011, 01:10 PM
your comparison of a 45 thousand dollar car to a 20 thousand dollar car is spot on.
edit: your trash talking posting videos of other peoples cars. enough said
Correct, they both absolutely suck. I'd rather drive your Neon than either. That says a lot.
I'd post pictures of what I do, but I think most of you tards would glaze over because you have no idea what this stuff is besides bolting parts that receive good forum reviews on late model cars.
My 914 is half primered, and half seam welded waiting on an LS1. I daily drive a 1.8T with a 3076R, cams and all sorts of chassis attention.
I have other **** too.
I don't need to post what I have to tell you that the Genesis sucks, and is nothing compared to a mid engine RWD air cooled VW/Porsche. That stands on it's own
SpEcRv9
09-27-2011, 02:26 PM
I don't need to post what I have to tell you that the Genesis sucks, and is nothing compared to a mid engine RWD air cooled VW/Porsche. That stands on it's own
no see you do, since you're all knowing....you know so much about your own cars, you can tell me about my own too, my "korean supra" as I like to ironically call it, which you didn't pick up on....cause so far your reasoning for it being bad are "it's a hyundai" and "it's a wannabe g35" that's literally all you have...and then your next go to line is "do I even have to explain why it sucks?" .....uhhh yeah?
I just have 3 questions?
1. what about the genesis coupe sucks about it? besides saying "I don't even need to say what sucks about it...it's obvious" ....no...it's not..
2. what makes other cars for the price better choices? and I'm not just saying performance wise...but literally THAT much better as a capable vehicle...
3. how big of a dildo is up your ass?.....don't say there isn't one either....you got that upset when I merely pointed out the fact super chargers and v8s don't weigh 1600lbs to such "a heavy chassis" which was also proved to be ill informed, and that my car DOESN'T look like g35 unless you're stupid.
that ****ing LS1 in your tin can of a 914 should really be good for the balance and handling....you really want to talk **** about hyundai adding a little weight to their cars to improve them, while you're ruining a classic P car that weighs about nothing with a v8....now THAT is irony.
PAFirefighter11
09-27-2011, 02:29 PM
This article is lies. There's been rumors of the v8 since the car came out. Hyundai said it couldn't fit. Also, the picture is fake. Autoblog even posted that picture on their site as a new look, I don't know who their source is but its a picture that some guy photoshopped. Don't get your hopes up for a v8 before the car is totally refreshed. I will not be pursuing a v8 and just doing FI on my v6.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis/
2012
Genesis
* Select 3.8
* Select 4.6
* 5.0 R-Spec Selected
* 16/25 MPG
* 429 HP
* Seats5
From
$46,500 MSRP
*
genesis
o
3.8
+
19/29 MPG
+
333 HP
+
5 Seats
+
$34200
o
4.6
+
17/26 MPG
+
378 HP
+
5 Seats
+
$44500
o
5.0 R-Spec
+
16/25 MPG
+
429 HP
+
5 Seats
+
$46500
Build & Price
View Specs & Trim
SpEcRv9
09-27-2011, 02:32 PM
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis/
2012
Genesis
* Select 3.8
* Select 4.6
* 5.0 R-Spec Selected
* 16/25 MPG
* 429 HP
* Seats5
From
$46,500 MSRP
*
genesis
o
3.8
+
19/29 MPG
+
333 HP
+
5 Seats
+
$34200
o
4.6
+
17/26 MPG
+
378 HP
+
5 Seats
+
$44500
o
5.0 R-Spec
+
16/25 MPG
+
429 HP
+
5 Seats
+
$46500
Build & Price
View Specs & Trim
that's the sedan....we're talking about coupes.
PAFirefighter11
09-27-2011, 02:35 PM
that's the sedan....we're talking about coupes.
I see that now ;-) If Hyundai isn't listing it on their website I doubt it'll be a 2012 model year option for the Coupè since it is listed for the Saloon.
SpEcRv9
09-27-2011, 02:40 PM
yeah the changes for the coupe aren't coming till the 2013 model..
c7scayman
09-27-2011, 02:55 PM
yeah the changes for the coupe aren't coming till the 2013 model..
What was the cause of V8 engine not fitting? Too tall, long, or wide? Did Hyundai ever say?
Because if it was too tall, a hood scoop or bulge like on the late 90's Eclipse should fix that problem.
But if it was too wide or long, then I would understand. It would be very costly to redesign the engine bay and frame to fit one in there. I still think a V8 will be very possible in the next generation model(guessing 2015).
215_2.5
10-19-2011, 12:56 AM
seems like there pushing for 2013 cause its not out now
pharnhyte
10-21-2011, 06:43 AM
Correct, they both absolutely suck. I'd rather drive your Neon than either. That says a lot.
I'd post pictures of what I do, but I think most of you tards would glaze over because you have no idea what this stuff is besides bolting parts that receive good forum reviews on late model cars.
My 914 is half primered, and half seam welded waiting on an LS1. I daily drive a 1.8T with a 3076R, cams and all sorts of chassis attention.
I have other **** too.
I don't need to post what I have to tell you that the Genesis sucks, and is nothing compared to a mid engine RWD air cooled VW/Porsche. That stands on it's own
No, everyone knows the genesis sucks. Just stating facts, that is all.
Whatever makes you sleep at night with your "Korean Supra".
The 2.0T and 3.8 Genesis are heavy, it might as well be a G35. The car looks a lot like one. Every new motor and platform things get heavier.
Nothing other than the Genesis sucks, it takes a ton of work to make them fast and they really ripped off the G35 horribly. Oh, did I mention it's a korean G35, but not as good? Just sayin.
Typical European Elitist attitudes. I can't stand it. I'm curious to see how a genesis would suck compared to a POS 1.8T. I would think after all of these years, that the European's could make a reliable car, but nooooo, Hyundai, and Kia have lower cost of ownership, higher resale value, and are far more reliable. Sad
Former VW owner myself.
AWD GS
10-21-2011, 07:05 AM
lol @ this thread
c7scayman
11-09-2011, 04:14 PM
What do you guys think? I like it.
http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/jpg/201111/2012-hyundai-genesis-coup-83w.jpg
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupeofficial-teasers-revealed-ar119637.html
The spyshots showed 380GT in the back signifying that the Genesis will likely use a 3.8L V6 again.
accordguy04
11-09-2011, 04:25 PM
I thought they said the V8 wouldn't fit in the coupe? :D
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/11/hyundai-genesis-coupe-5-0l-v8-unveiled-by-rhys-millen-racing-2011-sema-show.html
jpalamar
11-09-2011, 04:28 PM
Anyone with money can put a V8 in one... but it doesn't mean Hyundai is going to.
SpEcRv9
11-14-2011, 01:41 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/14/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-to-get-350-hp-v6-275-hp-turbo-four/
2.0T will come with 270hp
3.8 will come with 350hp
c7scayman
11-14-2011, 01:43 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/14/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-to-get-350-hp-v6-275-hp-turbo-four/
2.0T will come with 270hp
3.8 will come with 350hp
Wow. Are you going to get it or stick with your 1st gen?
SpEcRv9
11-14-2011, 01:46 PM
I'll most likely stick with my first gen, not huge on the new redesigned front end...
but trust me, I'm not thrilled about it. I was only expecting a 30 or 40hp increase, which wouldn't have bothered me....but 70? FUUUUUUUUUU :lol:
accordguy04
11-14-2011, 02:07 PM
Its just the I4-T out of the Sonata. That ones rated at 274 hp. Not sure why they didnt put it in in the first place.
SpEcRv9
11-14-2011, 02:17 PM
Its just the I4-T out of the Sonata. That ones rated at 274 hp. Not sure why they didnt put it in in the first place.
no it's not...the 2.0t in the sonata is DI...the only thing that's the same is the output.
the 2.0 in the genesis isn't. The new 2.0 is receiving a new twin scroll turbo and intercooler (amongst a little tweaking as well I'd assume)
they didn't put it (edit: the 2.0 from the sonata) in there in the first place, because it didn't exist in the first place.
accordguy04
11-14-2011, 03:30 PM
Ah, I just assumed it was the same, shoulda known, we all know what happens when you assume... haha
daewoo
11-14-2011, 04:06 PM
i thought they said the v8 wouldn't fit in the coupe? :d
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2011/11/hyundai-genesis-coupe-5-0l-v8-unveiled-by-rhys-millen-racing-2011-sema-show.htmldo want!
jzamorski113
11-14-2011, 04:10 PM
Yeah I am not a huge fan of the front end, I like mine better now with my new grill and fog surrounds.
I do like the lights, but thats not a big deal. And i have the v6, so the power increase isn't a big deal to me. I'd assume the GDI would mean **** is more locked down and harder to mod anyway.
c7scayman
11-14-2011, 04:14 PM
Well, my guess is that these 2nd gen engines will be easy to swap in the first gens. Only worth doing when you have a high mileage engine, but you still like your car and want to keep it longer.
mcperson2k
11-14-2011, 05:10 PM
So many decent cars coming out this year.... Im excited for my lease to end in the summer.
c7scayman
11-17-2011, 12:26 AM
Did not think it is worth another thread, but In other news, Hyundai announced a 2 door version of the Hyundai Elantra. Basically the same car as Kia Forte Koup. I am guessing the same engines as well.
fightinchunk
11-18-2011, 11:23 AM
I was soo proud of this car when it came out. korean nationalism and all that bull****. till I drove the car and experienced the "rev hang" that these coupe guys experience. shows the engineers have no confidence in the manual trannies. sad really. hope a t56 can fit. or a v160 or something
blinkme323
11-18-2011, 04:34 PM
Not a fan of the new front end. Props to Hyundai for implementing DI, but the car is still way overweight.
c7scayman
11-23-2011, 04:31 PM
Hey guys, check out this article about possible twin turbo V6.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/turbocharged-v6-or-high-displacement-v8-hyundai-says-the-choice-is-ours-ar120425.html
SpEcRv9
11-23-2011, 05:20 PM
If the choice was ours it'd come with a v8...
....but a TT-6 ain't bad....
SpEcRv9
11-23-2011, 05:42 PM
Woulda helped to read the link article before I posted that, instead of just most of the link I could read :lol:
My vote is for the v8...but I won't mind a tt or s/c v6.....
But if they give it a v8 they're simply going to have to make it compete with the mustang and not just in a straight line....thats my only concern with their second gen version of their first sports car...they want to compete against a car with 50 years of development and making it better, behind it...then they're gonna have to work hard at it, since Hyundai has only been at it for a handful of years.
Keith2g
11-25-2011, 11:23 AM
If they do decide to produce this car it's going to be a completely different platform than the 2.0t and v6 models. You can't just take a car designed around a less than 300hp engine and throw a torquey V8 in the same chassis It would require major chassis reinforcement and also a front suspension designed to carry the extra weight of the bigger motor not to mention a complete rear half setup to not only handle the power but to also put it to the ground. I see this being a very costly and risky decision for Hyundai although I would absolutely love to see the car mass produced! Might even consider buying it...... wait nevermind.
SpEcRv9
11-25-2011, 06:34 PM
If they do decide to produce this car it's going to be a completely different platform than the 2.0t and v6 models. You can't just take a car designed around a less than 300hp engine and throw a torquey V8 in the same chassis It would require major chassis reinforcement and also a front suspension designed to carry the extra weight of the bigger motor not to mention a complete rear half setup to not only handle the power but to also put it to the ground. I see this being a very costly and risky decision for Hyundai although I would absolutely love to see the car mass produced! Might even consider buying it...... wait nevermind.
the genesis coupe is built on the genesis sedan platform....which has a v8 option, and handles it just fine.
mcperson2k
11-30-2011, 09:32 PM
I just went and looked at a Used v6 coupe at Jeff D'Ambrosio and there was a sticker on the windshield that said "Factory warranty" "Lifetime engine warranty". Is this standard on all Genesis coupes? I did a google search but couldn't find anything about it.
SpEcRv9
11-30-2011, 10:08 PM
Lifetime engine warranty is a new thing generally used on used cars to make the buyer feel better...the rest of the factory warranty seems about right though..
But AFAIK there aren't any issues you should look out for with the v6...to be worried about buying a used v6....just the normal checkovers for used cars.
c7scayman
02-22-2012, 09:50 AM
http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/genesis-coupe/2013/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-3-8-r-spec-full-test.html
348HP on 91 octane.
0-60mph in 5.3 seconds. Big improvement.
jzamorski113
02-22-2012, 10:14 AM
Looks ugly as hell though lol. I'm just as happy with my current 3.8 track. If I had a 2.0t it'd be a different story though. Planning on getting a turbo kit on my 3.8 at some point anyway.
jpalamar
02-22-2012, 10:16 AM
http://www.insideline.com/hyundai/genesis-coupe/2013/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-3-8-r-spec-full-test.html
348HP on 91 octane.
0-60mph in 5.3 seconds. Big improvement.
That is a V6... not a V8.
c7scayman
02-22-2012, 12:03 PM
That is a V6... not a V8.
I know. I did not say it was a V8. If you were referring to the original post from more than 4 months ago. That was a rumor that I was mentioning.
Chris B.
02-22-2012, 12:23 PM
So no factory V8 yet....
It looks like it performs slightly better than the V6 Mustang. I'd like to see a comparison of the 2013 V6 Mustang with the track package and BOSS 302 Recaro seat package to the 2013 Genesis R-Spec and the Nizmo 370Z or one of the other better performing 370Z models(Sport package?). Of course the Nizmo 370Z costs as much as a 2012 BOSS302, so maybe that's not the best comparison.
The article summed it up with, "If you can't make the stretch to a 5.0 Mustang, this is a great option for a rear-drive coupe."
MSRP of a 2012 Mustang GT with the Brembo package and optional 3.73 rear gears is $32,595. MSRP of the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec is $29,625. In a 60 month new auto loan, that comes down to about $50/month difference in payments on a 5 year new car loan if you pay full MSRP for both cars. I don't know if the new R spec will sell at full MSRP, but the current 5.0 GT's are selling about $3000-$5000 below MSRP and in some areas you also have rebates and incentives. So in the end they are almost equal in price. Your might even get a new 5.0 GT for less than a 2013 R-Spec.
rocknrace03
02-22-2012, 07:35 PM
im not positive on this, but I'm almost positive i saw a 5.0 emblem pictured on the trunk in the super bowl commercial, but from what i found thats the 4 door model only? i can't remember what the car looked like, i just remember seeing the emblem
Chris B.
02-22-2012, 08:49 PM
im not positive on this, but I'm almost positive i saw a 5.0 emblem pictured on the trunk in the super bowl commercial, but from what i found thats the 4 door model only? i can't remember what the car looked like, i just remember seeing the emblem
The Genesis sedan has already had a V8. The newer engine is a 5.0 V8 in the R Spec model
SpEcRv9
02-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Looks ugly as hell though lol.
It looks OKAY in a few colors, but the rest of them just make it look odd...I'm interested to see the turbo model's performance #'s, I can't imagine they'd be too far off...my car very lightly modded w/o the reflash is about as fast as a current 3.8 genesis, I'd guess the same for the new gen...but this motor is gonna be tougher to mod supposedly....
The 2.0T from Hyundai has a stupid stock tune....and I won't be surprised if this one is any different.
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