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Vr-4-Life
10-31-2010, 08:20 PM
Ok so I was out on River Road on my way to do some tie die shirts and this happened... I hit a pothole that felt deep and it the sound was LOUD. After I felt the tire go flat and I thought i just blew the tire... I threw my spare wheel on only to find this bull ****... This is really my fault since I was about 20LB low on air at the time...

Theres a bend that isnt that bad, but I'm worried about the crack... its hairline sized and I cant even get my nail into it... its obviously there from the stress of the bend though. These wheels are aluminum and so far I found one guy saying he can weld if and one guy who said its toast and that his "weld guy" wont touch it.

I am going to take the wheel to a place in Pendel for a look see this week. What do you guys think? Any wheel guys ever had a repair done before? is it safe?

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9125/dsc02919i.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2990/dsc02920m.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/976/dsc02921p.jpg

XxIriponzeesxX
10-31-2010, 08:35 PM
Damn that blows. Where are river road did this happen? But on topic not sure of the weld since its on the curve.

Vr-4-Life
10-31-2010, 08:42 PM
it happened going towards new hope from morrisville right by the cemetery

Vr-4-Life
10-31-2010, 08:51 PM
What about it being on the bend makes it harder to repair?

the mike
10-31-2010, 09:06 PM
Been there, done that. NJ refused to pay for it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/themike/downsized_0529001051.jpg

Foolinaround
10-31-2010, 09:09 PM
20lbs low? what were you on line 10 lbs bro?

Gonna be hard cause of the bend,puts a lot of stress on the welds.

Vr-4-Life
10-31-2010, 09:11 PM
Yeah... I'm not even going to lose the hair by trying to get PA to pay for the damage...

I was on 30PSI when I should have had about 50.... I'm usually good about keeping up on my tire pressure, but its been cold...

ndubz
10-31-2010, 09:28 PM
damn bro thats ****ty

93EGY8
10-31-2010, 09:38 PM
that sucks, hopefully it works out but i dont think they can repair a crack that long. good luck!

Vr-4-Life
10-31-2010, 09:43 PM
Yeah I dont have a good feeling about it, but who knows... I definately dont want to fix the wheels and have them fail while driving... This also more or less presents a reason to buy new wheels as well..

What does the peanut gallery think of these? What ones do you like more?

http://www.raderwerks.com/product/stp-3-mb

http://www.raderwerks.com/product/stp-2-mb

you can see my car in my avatar.

wheresmycar
11-01-2010, 02:07 AM
I was on 30PSI when I should have had about 50.... I'm usually good about keeping up on my tire pressure, but its been cold...

You were aiming for 50psi hot? or 50psi cold?

I thought you only lose 1psi for every 10 degrees drop in temperature.

Vr-4-Life
11-01-2010, 08:16 AM
50PSI hot.... it hasnt been tooo cold out for my tires... just too cold out to put air in them haha

ndubz
11-01-2010, 12:08 PM
Uh Oh Rich, Looks like u got a Situation

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/100830/Mike-Situation-Stars_300.jpg

Vr-4-Life
11-01-2010, 01:45 PM
Thanks for contributing here...

The Alchemist
11-01-2010, 09:25 PM
You need pink wheelz now

OutToWinPAHC
11-01-2010, 09:46 PM
Try wheel collision, they are good, maybe they can fix that.

OutToWinPAHC
11-01-2010, 09:48 PM
Does your door sticker not say -

"tire pressure should be psi 33-37 unloaded, and 37-44 loaded" I checked that on Alldata for a 97 540i

Rado_VR6
11-01-2010, 10:01 PM
Uh Oh Rich, Looks like u got a Situation

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/100830/Mike-Situation-Stars_300.jpg

Who is that guy? When he comes into Adelphia's everyone goes crazy like he's some pop sensation.

ndubz
11-01-2010, 10:55 PM
Who is that guy? When he comes into Adelphia's everyone goes crazy like he's some pop sensation.

Thats Mike "The Situation" from Jersey Shore lol

Vr-4-Life
11-02-2010, 12:27 AM
You need pink wheelz now

this is NOT a honda or VW haha

Try wheel collision, they are good, maybe they can fix that.

It looks like I'm going to wheel works in burlington NJ Wednesday morning.

Does your door sticker not say -

"tire pressure should be psi 33-37 unloaded, and 37-44 loaded" I checked that on Alldata for a 97 540i


eh the cars not on stock wheels or tires though. the tires say they should be at 50 psi and under inflation is dangerous.



So far I'm hearing a lot of mixed opinions about the repair. Some say its unrepairable because the crack cant be stopped. More confident guys said that if you drill holes at the end of the crack and then weld them it will stop the crack from spreading. The guy at wheel works was the most confident man i talked to. He said he has been doing it for 35 years and he KNOWS he can repair it well.

I guess cracks intimidate many.

OutToWinPAHC
11-02-2010, 12:33 AM
I like recommend tire pressure even on no stock sized. I think 50 is a lot. I think I would be a 40psi guy... Yea the wheel guy will know best. They do drill the ends of the crack to prevent spreading. Then they grind a V groove into the crack and weld it. Talk to them, get some opinions from wheel repair guys and take it from there.

bordin34
11-02-2010, 01:29 AM
I thought it was illegal to repair a cracked aluminum wheel?

OutToWinPAHC
11-02-2010, 06:07 AM
This is America dude

Vr-4-Life
11-02-2010, 08:28 AM
I doubt its illegal... there are a TON of places that do it.

The Alchemist
11-02-2010, 11:01 AM
this is NOT a honda or VW haha






http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/Acidcrakker/avatar1961_19gif.jpg

:lol:

ndubz
11-02-2010, 11:39 AM
I thought it was illegal to repair a cracked aluminum wheel?

Might be, but who gives a ****. this is the North east bitch.....**** the law :supz:

PAFirefighter11
11-02-2010, 12:49 PM
Call Viking Wheel and Tire in Wilmington, DE. They do some crazy good work, but are kinda near the ghetto. My friend Sandy had this happen and she actually had the township or State (I forget which) pay for a new rim and tire.

Alloy Wheel Repair. You bend it, we fix it.
We do it all, just call.
-FREE Estimates
-All work done in house except plating
-Special pricing on quantity orders
-Daily UPS and FedEx
-Extensive inventory
-Years of Experience

Shown below are some samples of the types of wheel problems we can fix:
-You'll see both severe curb-rash, and some curb-rash that has gone past severe to EXTREME.
-There are wheels with missing pieces from the rim edge.
-There's corrosion...
-and cracking too!


http://www.vikingwheel.com/

Check out their samples here:
http://www.vikingwheel.com/samples.html

Vr-4-Life
11-02-2010, 01:00 PM
Wow... Those are crazy repairs... I wish they had after shost though.

PAFirefighter11
11-02-2010, 01:05 PM
Wow... Those are crazy repairs... I wish they had after shost though.

I agree, they should post after shots. They've been around for quite some time and have been doing great work all along. Everyone I know who has taken a rim(s) to be worked on has been 100% happy, and typically gone back on several different occasions.

FocusDude
11-02-2010, 04:34 PM
Second night I had the Focus I cracked a stock 16 on New Falls Rd in Bristol Twp / Middletown Twp.

Pot holes continued to bubble 11 of the oem equipped Firehawks.

It looks like I'm going to wheel works in burlington NJ Wednesday morning.

...The guy at wheel works was the most confident man i talked to. He said he has been doing it for 35 years and he KNOWS he can repair it well.

Let me know how they work out. I drive pass them everyday, looks like a hole in the wall.

O and get a sticker...
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff268/DudesJpegs/Focus/drunkpotholes.jpg

the mike
11-02-2010, 04:46 PM
Or this one:

http://www.ihatestickers.com/motorsports-other-c-2_10/f*ck-potholes-p-272

igo4bmx
11-02-2010, 04:59 PM
that can be safely repaired.

Vr-4-Life
11-02-2010, 07:04 PM
Yeah I dont exactly obey the speed limit... I'd hate to have a wheel fail while im driving.

WHeel works is a hole in the wall? ive heard good things... i need to find a place that will dismount my tire first... everyone i go to says they wont dismount low profile ones.

mills84
11-03-2010, 07:27 PM
What wheels are they? Seems like they damaged quite easy. Not only that, but they have a lot of weight added in that one spot...

laser92dsm
11-03-2010, 07:38 PM
Yeah I dont have a good feeling about it, but who knows... I definately dont want to fix the wheels and have them fail while driving... This also more or less presents a reason to buy new wheels as well..

What does the peanut gallery think of these? What ones do you like more?

http://www.raderwerks.com/product/stp-3-mb

http://www.raderwerks.com/product/stp-2-mb

you can see my car in my avatar.

I like the STP-3's.:supz:

FocusDude
11-03-2010, 08:13 PM
WHeel works is a hole in the wall? ive heard good things...

I've just driven past, it always looks semi abandoned. Although the coupe thats typically sitting out front is hawt!

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 03:08 AM
I thought it was illegal to repair a cracked aluminum wheel?

This is America dude

i lost!

wheresmycar
11-04-2010, 03:32 AM
eh the cars not on stock wheels or tires though. the tires say they should be at 50 psi and under inflation is dangerous.


You aren't following the "Maximum" PSI(while cold) printed on the sidewall are you?

What brand & size of the tires? What size is the wheel?

Either way if you were in the 40-50 psi range then it already wasn't under inflated.
I follow the door and adjust a few PSI.

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 04:05 AM
Ok so I was out on River Road on my way to do some tie die shirts and this happened... I hit a pothole that felt deep and it the sound was LOUD. After I felt the tire go flat and I thought i just blew the tire... I threw my spare wheel on only to find this bull ****... This is really my fault since I was about 20LB low on air at the time...

Theres a bend that isnt that bad, but I'm worried about the crack... its hairline sized and I cant even get my nail into it... its obviously there from the stress of the bend though. These wheels are aluminum and so far I found one guy saying he can weld if and one guy who said its toast and that his "weld guy" wont touch it.

I am going to take the wheel to a place in Pendel for a look see this week. What do you guys think? Any wheel guys ever had a repair done before? is it safe?

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9125/dsc02919i.jpg
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2990/dsc02920m.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/976/dsc02921p.jpg

ssshhhhhiiiiiiiiiii man just throw some extra weights on that bish and ride out. it'll be fine.

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 04:22 AM
I dropped it off for repair today at wheel works... The guy was kind of a dick... I asked him how he would stop the crack from spreading and he got offended like I was doubting his ability to do his job. I mainly just wanted to know if he knew some of the best practices that I found on the web...

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 04:44 AM
I dropped it off for repair today at wheel works... The guy was kind of a dick... I asked him how he would stop the crack from spreading and he got offended like I was doubting his ability to do his job. I mainly just wanted to know if he knew some of the best practices that I found on the web...

call me crazy but it sounds like your are doubting something he does on a daily bases, rather than something one might read about online when repairs are needed.

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 04:48 AM
not really... just google aluminum wheel repair and read the methods. I called over half a dozen shops and pretended ignorant to the topic just so I could hear what steps they would take to repair it. After talking to the guy at wheel works i felt that he had the repair method down. I asked the guy in the shop just to make sure it was the same person that I talked to on the phone.

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 04:52 AM
not really... just google aluminum wheel repair and read the methods. I called over half a dozen shops and pretended ignorant to the topic just so I could hear what steps they would take to repair it. After talking to the guy at wheel works i felt that he had the repair method down. I asked the guy in the shop just to make sure it was the same person that I talked to on the phone.


Put yourself in his shows, how would you feel about this? have some random brown call on the phone ask questions, then show up in person and still ask questions that are relatively the same **** you asked on the phone. :lol: you gonna tell me that you wouldn't get pissy?

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 04:55 AM
He shouldn't have an issue proving his knowledge. If this were a simple job like mowing my lawn I wouldn't question his tactics, but when my life is riding on it, I'd like to be sure he knows what he is doing...

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 05:01 AM
*shrugs* trained professional vs owner or broken rim. Willing to bet he knows what he's doing.

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 05:05 AM
You're missing the point dude... I was not brain benching the guy... I WAS ENSURING HE KNEW HOW TO DO A PROPER JOB BEFORE LEAVING MY WHEEL WITH HIM.

What part of that do you find competitive? I don't just give people work without researching the procedures myself and then making sure the know what they're doing.

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 05:07 AM
You're missing the point dude... I was not brain benching the guy... I WAS ENSURING HE KNEW HOW TO DO A PROPER JOB BEFORE LEAVING MY WHEEL WITH HIM.

What part of that do you find competitive? I don't just give people work without researching the procedures myself and then making sure the know what they're doing.

ever thing to research the company themselves as opposed to just how to do the work? :lol:

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 05:19 AM
What company? The guy that I took it to owns a MOM and POP shop. Its not a company and I'll be lucky if its an LLC.

What the **** are you laughing at dude? Do you think you're smart or something? Get this through your head. I sent my photos to over 6 shops that were big and small... Most of them saw the crack and said it couldn't be repaired because it would just come back. Those shops obviously knew very little about wheel repair. The ones that remained all knew the techniques that I researched online PRIOR TO PICKING A SHOP. For example, The good shops knew never to weld a crack, but to cut it out. They also knew to DRILL THE ENDS OF THE CRACK SO IT DOESNT SPREAD?

Why the **** are you questioning why I researched the repairs before I chose a place to do it? Do you not ****ing understand?

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 05:27 AM
trust me i understand but i am questioning your questioning of a professional in which got him pissed at you, that caused you to start foamn about it on this thread.

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 05:30 AM
He didn't get pissed? Where did I say he got pissed? He was a dick with sarcastic remarks to my questions.

It wasnt even bad enough to make me want to take my business elsewhere... The guy was not a people person.

I really dont know what else to say... I'm just beating a dead horse here...

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 05:34 AM
He didn't get pissed? Where did I say he got pissed? He was a dick with sarcastic remarks to my questions.

It wasnt even bad enough to make me want to take my business elsewhere... The guy was not a people person.

I really dont know what else to say... I'm just beating a dead horse here...

trust me he was pissed.

Vr-4-Life
11-04-2010, 05:37 AM
I wouldn't trust you with a potato gun. He can be aggravated all he wants. I'm not paying anyone for a service until I'm sure they know what they're doing. I dont trust anyone but myself most of the time and this was on repair that I cant do...

JankyS13
11-04-2010, 05:39 AM
I wouldn't trust you with a potato gun. He can be aggravated all he wants. I'm not paying anyone for a service until I'm sure they know what they're doing. I dont trust anyone but myself most of the time and this was on repair that I cant do...

smartest thing you have posted on this thread. :lol:

Vr-4-Life
11-07-2010, 01:17 AM
Well I picked up the wheel and that day my slave cylinder failed and I could barely get the car in and out of gear... Picked up the last one in the tri state area at Thomson BMW in Doylestown and I was back on the road today... Its been an expensive week...

Anyhow the wheel is repaired and I'd say repaired well... It high speed balanced perfectly fine and the welds look clean as hell.

Lets hope it stays in good shape... I picked up a craftsman digital tire pressure gauge and I will be keeping a good eye on my pressure from now on.

JankyS13
11-07-2010, 01:25 AM
Well I picked up the wheel and I was back on the road... Lets hope it stays in good shape...

Don't hit pot holes from the bowels of hell and ya should be fine. :lol:

OutToWinPAHC
11-07-2010, 09:06 AM
pics of fixed wheel?

93rx7r1
11-07-2010, 09:54 AM
pics of fixed wheel?


I'd like to see the pics of the repair too.

trista
11-07-2010, 11:53 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/Acidcrakker/avatar1961_19gif.jpg


:lol:
Roflmao.. I like this guy

Supraru
11-07-2010, 12:13 PM
As entertaining as this thread was to read op you are running the absolute wrong psi. This is a newb mistake. You do not go by the psi that is written on the tire. That pressure is max inflation. You should be somewhere in the 30's not pushing the tire to it's limit. Please inflate your tires to the proper psi.

Subie_sleeper
11-07-2010, 12:37 PM
As entertaining as this thread was to read op you are running the absolute wrong psi. This is a newb mistake. You do not go by the psi that is written on the tire. That pressure is max inflation. You should be somewhere in the 30's not pushing the tire to it's limit. Please inflate your tires to the proper psi.

This. It's written/stamped on the inside of most cars drivers doors or the door jamb.


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OutToWinPAHC
11-07-2010, 03:23 PM
This. It's written/stamped on the inside of most cars drivers doors or the door jamb.


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I agree... MFGR's spec only unless it special application

JankyS13
11-07-2010, 03:28 PM
I agree... MFGR's spec only unless it special application


best rule of thumb to go by.

TROLL
11-07-2010, 03:31 PM
This. It's written/stamped on the inside of most cars drivers doors or the door jamb.


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Just want to make sure its noted that this recommendation is intended for the stock wheel/tire setup, so if you arent running stock wheels and tires then it should not be what you follow.
If you have different size wheels/tires and/or a different brand of tire you should definitely do some research on what is recommended.
I agree though, it is definitely wrong to run the max rated psi stamped on the tire... thats way high.

Vr-4-Life
11-07-2010, 05:05 PM
As entertaining as this thread was to read op you are running the absolute wrong psi. This is a newb mistake. You do not go by the psi that is written on the tire. That pressure is max inflation. You should be somewhere in the 30's not pushing the tire to it's limit. Please inflate your tires to the proper psi.

I've adjusted it to 45PSI

This. It's written/stamped on the inside of most cars drivers doors or the door jamb.

Yeah but thats for stock 17's with mad sidewall... I have 19's with barely any... If I ran what the car said, I'd bend my rims every day lol

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Just want to make sure its noted that this recommendation is intended for the stock wheel/tire setup, so if you arent running stock wheels and tires then it should not be what you follow.
If you have different size wheels/tires and/or a different brand of tire you should definitely do some research on what is recommended.
I agree though, it is definitely wrong to run the max rated psi stamped on the tire... thats way high.

Yeah... I have 45PSI in there... I'll keep an eye on the tread wears.



Sorry everyone but I didnt get photos of the repair while the tire was off :(

I purchased a craftsman digital tire gauge yesterday though... I'll never let my tires get so low again.

Supraru
11-07-2010, 05:48 PM
45 is still way to high.

OutToWinPAHC
11-07-2010, 06:55 PM
33-37 unloaded, and 37-44 loaded" I think 40 would be more ideal