Official BK Meet. Mount Laurel. Tuesday evening.

[sean3]

Originally Posted by Ciotti

Now that I think about it, an SN-95 Cobra could be stupid fast with a 15k budget, 5k for the twin 61 turdbo kit, 5k to forge the motor with all the best crap, and 5k for suspension and a built rear. The aluminum block can handle well over 1,000 horsepower and the DOHC motor responds really well to boost because it's overvalved from the factory. The 8.8 rear is very strong and stupidly cheap to build up, with the twin 61's I've seen 1,200 horses on 20 - 30 psi, and gutted/lightened the car will get down to around 2,500 pounds pretty easily. It's not like the cars are expensive either, I got mine for 5,500 and I've seen plenty of others selling for 6-7k or so.

Where are you buying a twin 61mm turbo setup for 5 grand?

[blackvr4]

Originally Posted by ICE95Z

Nope. In the big picture, your 4cyl is no different than a 4 cyl in a 240 or a subaru. Still a 4cyl.

I really dont think you have a solid grasp of how different all those engines are, lets not even look at the fact that they are all 4cylinders
lets just compare build material.

now when you say 240 engine im going to assume you are talking about an sr20.

240 engine (sr20) = aluminum block
WRX engine/sti = alumium block with sleeves just like your typical honda engine and the sr20, wanna run some good power threw it your def going to need resleeving etc etc... not to mention the wrx/sti engine you might as well say has 2 blocks

now lets look at the 4g63 block alone, solid iron, which one you think will take more power and boost on a completely stock block? lets face it getting ur motor resleeved/machined only adds to that 15,000 dollar limit.

why you think all our iron block imports handle boost soo well? the vr-4, the 300ZX, DSM, supra, mr2? iron blocks bro.

fastest 1/4mile 240 doesnt even use an sr20, its got the KA in it for the sheerfact that its full iron.

[JerseyTuscani]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

Can I call you PuertoRicky??

LOL...sure bro only you though.

Originally Posted by blackvr4

fastest 1/4mile 240 doesnt even use an sr20, its got the KA in it for the sheerfact that its full iron.

The man is correct. And this is coming from a guy that just bought an SR.

[blackvr4]

Originally Posted by JerseyTuscani

The man is correct. And this is coming from a guy that just bought an SR.

the sr is NOT a bad moto at all, for the average tuner its better than the KA because its already a motor prepared for boost stock, but when we are talking CRAZY high HP, the KA is much better stock block for stock block.

But lets face it 80% of the people building 240s build them for drifting anyways, nobody needs a 900HP engine to drift running 35PSI. I don't drift or anything but I'm sure that having between 300 to 350 is more than an ample amount of power to have a nice drift car.

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

I really dont think you have a solid grasp of how different all those engines are, lets not even look at the fact that they are all 4cylinders
lets just compare build material.

now when you say 240 engine im going to assume you are talking about an sr20.

240 engine (sr20) = aluminum block
WRX engine/sti = alumium block with sleeves just like your typical honda engine and the sr20, wanna run some good power threw it your def going to need resleeving etc etc... not to mention the wrx/sti engine you might as well say has 2 blocks

now lets look at the 4g63 block alone, solid iron, which one you think will take more power and boost on a completely stock block? lets face it getting ur motor resleeved/machined only adds to that 15,000 dollar limit.

why you think all our iron block imports handle boost soo well? the vr-4, the 300ZX, DSM, supra, mr2? iron blocks bro.

fastest 1/4mile 240 doesnt even use an sr20, its got the KA in it for the sheerfact that its full iron.

I dont even have a 4g63 block, my ****z 89 hyundai sonata g4cs lol. How ya like them apples.

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

the sr is NOT a bad moto at all, for the average tuner its better than the KA because its already a motor prepared for boost stock, but when we are talking CRAZY high HP, the KA is much better stock block for stock block.

But lets face it 80% of the people building 240s build them for drifting anyways, nobody needs a 900HP engine to drift running 35PSI. I don't drift or anything but I'm sure that having between 300 to 350 is more than an ample amount of power to have a nice drift car.

If I would build a drift 240, it would have to have 1300hp.

[blackvr4]

Originally Posted by screamingdsm

I dont even have a 4g63 block, my ****z 89 hyundai sonata g4cs lol. How ya like them apples.

lol I always thought lazerz should be made by hyundai

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

lol I always thought lazerz should be made by hyundai

Just think, my block use to take little philis to bingo night with its 120 horsepowerz of fury.

[blackvr4]

Originally Posted by screamingdsm

Just think, my block use to take little philis to bingo night with its 120 horsepowerz of fury.

lol that is a funny thought actually, your block has been around the block if u catch my drift. in one pass you prolly cramp more air than that engine has seen since 89 NA

[Kevin S]

Woot i have a Cast block. Does that mean i am fast?

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by Kevin S

Woot i have a Cast block. Does that mean i am fast?

Oh yes! Join are club!

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by 4drstunner

I was so pissed when i saw that bike trying to play. Im bringing my bike next week. Thats it!

Your mine bitch!

[Ciotti]

Originally Posted by sean3

Where are you buying a twin 61mm turbo setup for 5 grand?

That's what the HPP kit used to cost, looks like now the price has gone up to 6 and some change

Originally Posted by screamingdsm

Well then if it was 5,500 it only leaves you 9,500 for parts. Even if you did do that list, your forgetting slicks/wheels, engine management, fuel system. So theres another 2k+, and what about the trans/clutch? Common guys!!! Figure a car/motor out dollar for dollar. I could do a Starion with a 4g63 swap, th350 or a glide. Adapter plate is only 150 bucks lol. Can get a starion for 500 bucks, but that falls out of the "factory" perspective.

The trans I definitely forgot about, but the 5k for suspension and rear end could easily cover that and wheels because I was being super generous, all it actually needs is a 31 spline diff and matching axles to hold up, the fuel system upgrades are a part of the turdbo kit and these cars don't need any fancy computer controlled engine management crap, a few hours on John Lund's dyno and a tune is loaded into the factory ECU that will be daily drivable. At one time long ago in a galaxy far away I was into the straight line how fast do you want to spend thing, but it's been a while and luckily I saw the light before I started blowing money on that stuff because spending money to improve my driving and making cars corner is much more fun

[njsharkracer]

Originally Posted by screamingdsm

Just think, my block use to take little philis to bingo night with its 120 horsepowerz of fury.

If that's a hyundai 2.0 motor they're 136hp stock. Don't make it sound any more pitiful then it already is.

[Red3KGT]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

fastest 1/4mile 240 doesnt even use an sr20, its got the KA in it for the sheerfact that its full iron.

Hell yea... 7 sec KA-T FTW

[Red3KGT]

Originally Posted by njsharkracer

If that's a hyundai 2.0 motor they're 136hp stock. Don't make it sound any more pitiful then it already is.

I think that the old sonatas are 2.4s... Could be wrong tho

[Kevin S]

2.4's are where its at.

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by njsharkracer

If that's a hyundai 2.0 motor they're 136hp stock. Don't make it sound any more pitiful then it already is.

89-91 hyundai sonata came with a g4cs single overhead cam 2.4. They used the same casting as the 4g63 block. The careful mending of a set of pistons made with lower wrist pins, rods are generic 4g63 rods since they are the same, and 94 galant gs cam gears/timing belt to run the 4g63 head, and BAM! Frankinstien!!!

[njsharkracer]

Originally Posted by screamingdsm

89-91 hyundai sonata came with a g4cs single overhead cam 2.4. They used the same casting as the 4g63 block. The careful mending of a set of pistons made with lower wrist pins, rods are generic 4g63 rods since they are the same, and 94 galant gs cam gears/timing belt to run the 4g63 head, and BAM! Frankinstien!!!

Holy crap! I didn't know about older hyundai motors, but that is one bit*hin' frankenstein'd 4g63 then!

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by njsharkracer

Holy crap! I didn't know about older hyundai motors, but that is one bit*hin' frankenstein'd 4g63 then!

Block also comes in the mitsu expo vans, which is the 2.4 wideblock, starion factory trans bolts right to the block if you wanna do a 2.4 4g63 rear wheel drive setup, 85-87 galant gs engine code g64b, and acouple other various cars.