Official BK Meet. Mount Laurel. Tuesday evening.

[Ciotti]

Originally Posted by ICE95Z

Bigger motors do not mean faster cars. Way too many variables. I will say that there is no replacement for displacement. Sink 15k in a 4cyl motor. Sink the same 15k in a V8 and the V8 will win every time.

That's what I meant, when building to the limit the car with the bigger motor will be faster.

[Red3KGT]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

yo carver and brian saw this video the other night

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...uns_695709.htm

Very nice video... I swear that blue GT could be the scariest sounding car I've ever heard. Lol


BTW Carver your car is retarded. When you did that pull to chase the bike I swear I almost craped myself. Lol

[06njsti]

Originally Posted by ///chrism3

wait D u were there? with the car?

d, wasnt there with his car. he drove a friends sti i believe and im not sure if theres a finished date scheduled for his car

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by Red3KGT

Very nice video... I swear that blue GT could be the scariest sounding car I've ever heard. Lol


BTW Carver your car is retarded. When you did that pull to chase the bike I swear I almost craped myself. Lol

Yeah that dude almost got killed, I was about to switch lanes and he came up on me, and went by me at 110+. I figured Id go mess with him, but he got off.

[ICE95Z]

Originally Posted by blackvr4

I think sinking 15K into a DSM shouldnt count. that would prolly be the main platform that would disprove that theory, granted ur sinking 15K with someone who knows what they are doing and what parts work

Nope. In the big picture, your 4cyl is no different than a 4 cyl in a 240 or a subaru. Still a 4cyl. For instance, you take a dsm expert and give him 15k to build it. Take a LS1 expert and give him 15k to build it. You will loose everytime. The V8 is starting off with more cubes and more power stock right out the gate. Take your dsm stock, even with the stock turbo and you still have to spend $$$ just to get your car to make the same power the LS1 does stock.

[boostinsidewayz]

Originally Posted by ICE95Z

Nope. In the big picture, your 4cyl is no different than a 4 cyl in a 240 or a subaru. Still a 4cyl. For instance, you take a dsm expert and give him 15k to build it. Take a LS1 expert and give him 15k to build it. You will loose everytime. The V8 is starting off with more cubes and more power stock right out the gate. Take your dsm stock, even with the stock turbo and you still have to spend $$$ just to get your car to make the same power the LS1 does stock.

+1

i think the winner would be a fox body

[BLKSheep5]

figures i didn't come out and a miata shows up; my luck!

[armyguy6566]

i'll be out next week

[Ciotti]

Originally Posted by boostinsidewayz

+1

i think the winner would be a fox body

I think you're right




I really wish I didn't have the flash so hot on this one, I ruined a hilarious shot


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[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by BLKSheep5

figures i didn't come out and a miata shows up; my luck!

Didn't miss much. My car = boring.

[Vinny]

I agree....it's too.....clean...

[Kevin S]

i miss party? and all the cars in that vid are slow especially the laser.

[4drstunner]

Originally Posted by Red3KGT

Very nice video... I swear that blue GT could be the scariest sounding car I've ever heard. Lol


BTW Carver your car is retarded. When you did that pull to chase the bike I swear I almost craped myself. Lol

I was so pissed when i saw that bike trying to play. Im bringing my bike next week. Thats it!

[JerseyTuscani]

i look drunk in that pic....oh wait...lol

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by ICE95Z

Nope. In the big picture, your 4cyl is no different than a 4 cyl in a 240 or a subaru. Still a 4cyl. For instance, you take a dsm expert and give him 15k to build it. Take a LS1 expert and give him 15k to build it. You will loose everytime. The V8 is starting off with more cubes and more power stock right out the gate. Take your dsm stock, even with the stock turbo and you still have to spend $$$ just to get your car to make the same power the LS1 does stock.

Well its still questionable. I know a stock dsm with the stock turbo, cams 250-450, 100 dollar downpipe, 60 dollar fuel pump, even the stock clutch will go 12.1s even 11.9s@ 112-115 right there if you find a dsm for 1k running, and put 400 bucks in it would be rediculous. I know my motor cost me 3000 said and done to build. Get a turbo prob like a pte 6262 which is the new hotness 900, dsmlink or aem 700-1000, trans 2k (cheaper if you do it yourself), clutch 500-1000, intercooler/pipes 400, and a nitrous kit 400-500 with a good tune and it will be mid to low 9s. Even right there your under 10k which is still only over 2-4k over what you could pay for a ls1 platform to begin with. Plus you need to do a rear in the ls1 platform because they break, so theres another stitch.

Not saying dsms are better, or more of the motor its self, im saying it would be the car to prob beat, tie, or close to beat pretty much any car dollar for dollar done right. Even a fox body, once you get in the 500 550hp range the valley will crack on the block. My buddys turbo fox went 10.01s@134 and he split the valley. 4g63s are making 1000+hp before having to cement fill the block. So now you gotta buy a block for the mustang to even start, which if you were to stip a contest "having to use the stock factory motor it came with" would automatically FAIL! lol.

[Ciotti]

Now that I think about it, an SN-95 Cobra could be stupid fast with a 15k budget, 5k for the twin 61 turdbo kit, 5k to forge the motor with all the best crap, and 5k for suspension and a built rear. The aluminum block can handle well over 1,000 horsepower and the DOHC motor responds really well to boost because it's overvalved from the factory. The 8.8 rear is very strong and stupidly cheap to build up, with the twin 61's I've seen 1,200 horses on 20 - 30 psi, and gutted/lightened the car will get down to around 2,500 pounds pretty easily. It's not like the cars are expensive either, I got mine for 5,500 and I've seen plenty of others selling for 6-7k or so.

[screamingdsm]

Originally Posted by Ciotti

Now that I think about it, an SN-95 Cobra could be stupid fast with a 15k budget, 5k for the twin 61 turdbo kit, 5k to forge the motor with all the best crap, and 5k for suspension and a built rear. The aluminum block can handle well over 1,000 horsepower and the DOHC motor responds really well to boost because it's overvalved from the factory. The 8.8 rear is very strong and stupidly cheap to build up, with the twin 61's I've seen 1,200 horses on 20 - 30 psi, and gutted/lightened the car will get down to around 2,500 pounds pretty easily. It's not like the cars are expensive either, I got mine for 5,500 and I've seen plenty of others selling for 6-7k or so.

Well then if it was 5,500 it only leaves you 9,500 for parts. Even if you did do that list, your forgetting slicks/wheels, engine management, fuel system. So theres another 2k+, and what about the trans/clutch? Common guys!!! Figure a car/motor out dollar for dollar. I could do a Starion with a 4g63 swap, th350 or a glide. Adapter plate is only 150 bucks lol. Can get a starion for 500 bucks, but that falls out of the "factory" perspective.

[red24O]

lol Ricky you look like a boss in that one shot

[CleanNeon98]

Can I call you PuertoRicky??

[JKZ]

Could just buy a bike and dump money into it... How big the engine doesnt really matter if the vehicle its attacted to is light enough. Of course it would be instant death but it would be one hell of a ride.

Theres always going to be someone somewhere faster then you no matter what you have or have put into it.

Also i guess im putting to much thought into your discussion but all dragsters are V8's, why? Cause its the best platform. Mmmmm Top fuel nom nom nom