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Jeffros Spec V · 11-24-2007, 01:38 PM

Discusss.

http://www.break.com/index/dude-taze...ng-ticket.html

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 01:56 PM

The driver is an idiot. He should have just signed the ticket instead of holding court on the side of the road.

The driver exited the car and was acting like a fool, pointing and yelling. When the officer pulled the tazer out the driver tried to walk back to his car. At that point the officer did not know if he was going to get a gun or other weapon. The driver was not listening to the officers commands, so he got what he deserved.

His wife is also lucky she didn't get tazed or a gun drawn on her for hopping out of the car when she was not told.

In the end this dip**** will probably get some money out of this.

Uberu · 11-24-2007, 02:12 PM

The cop told him to get out of the car. The cop is the asshole, all the guy wanted to know what he did to get pulled over then to get arrested. There are so many cops out there who are stupid douchebags

importpower99 · 11-24-2007, 02:16 PM

ummmmm....The cop looked a little "taze happy". I don't understand why the cop tells him to put his hands on the hood and then pulls out his tazer at the same time.
The cop also turns his back when walking to the crusier, WTF? I have never seen that before! When ever I been asked to step out of the car, the cop walks behind me and never turns his back to me.
But the guy didn't follow any of the police officer's instuctions, so tazeing him would be justified.

Jeffros Spec V · 11-24-2007, 02:17 PM

The guy didn't sign anything because he wasn't admitting guilt. He clearly stated he thought he wasn't speeding and wanted to know how fast the cop saw him going. The cop refused to answer. Then the cop told him to get out of the car for really no apparent reason at all. Actually he told him to get out of the car cause he was going to arrest the guy for not signing a ticket.

I agree the wife is dumb for getting out of the car and she deserved to get tazed.

Also the cop never told the guy why he was getting arrested and didn't read him his rights.

When the other cop arrived he said "Oh he just took a little ride with the tazer." like it was a fun joke. Also the cop explination to the second cop clearly wasnt what actually happened.

EDIT: Who called the second cop? I think it was the wife. This cop should have called for back up as soon as the guy didn't sign the ticket.

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SGMsubI

The cop told him to get out of the car. The cop is the asshole, all the guy wanted to know what he did to get pulled over then to get arrested. There are so many cops out there who are stupid douchebags

Ahhh, the officer told him what he was being pulled over for (speeding). The driver wanted to argue about where the first sign was indicating the change in speed limit. The officer telling him to get out of the car does not give the griver the right to disobey the officers commands.

You are quick to call the officer an asshole, but what would have happened if the driver just signed the ticket and fought it in court? You wouldn't be watching this video. IMO the actions of the officer were a direct result of the way the driver acted.

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffros Spec V

The guy didn't sign anything because he wasn't admitting guilt.

That's the one thing I have not been able to find. In Utah, is signing the ticket an admission of guilt? I know in most states signing the ticket simply states that you agree to pay the fine or appear in court.

Jeffros Spec V · 11-24-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cburwell

Ahhh, the officer told him what he was being pulled over for (speeding). The driver wanted to argue about where the first sign was indicating the change in speed limit. The officer telling him to get out of the car does not give the driver the right to disobey the officers commands.

You are quick to call the officer an asshole, but what would have happened if the driver just signed the ticket and fought it in court? You wouldn't be watching this video. IMO the actions of the officer were a direct result of the way the driver acted.

I'm not going to really argue what about who's fault it was and I understand the cops have a very difficult job but I do think its dumb that once you ask a cop a question they get completely flustered and think you are trying to avoid something and your being aggressive towards them. Cops are humans to, their first opinion/instinct aren't always correct.

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffros Spec V

I'm not going to really argue what about who's fault it was and I understand the cops have a very difficult job but I do think its dumb that once you ask a cop a question they get completely flustered and think you are trying to avoid something and your being aggressive towards them. Cops are humans to, their first opinion/instinct aren't always correct.

I see what you are saying. I just think it would have ended a lot better for this guy (the driver) if he kept his mouth shut and fought the ticket in court with the proper evidence.

97TurboDSM · 11-24-2007, 02:27 PM

signing a ticket does not admit guilt. thats why there is a place on the ticket to plead guilty or not guilty so you can have your day in court if you so choose.

EDIT: someone beat me to it. im going to try and find something on the ticket signing issue.

importpower99 · 11-24-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cburwell

That's the one thing I have not been able to find. In Utah, is signing the ticket an admission of guilt? I know in most states signing the ticket simply states that you agree to pay the fine or appear in court.

When you sign it, doesn't it just mean that you recieved the ticket? (not admitting guilt or innocence)

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by importpower99

When you sign it, doesn't it just mean that you recieved the ticket? (not admitting guilt or innocence)

That's what I thought. I don't now if it is different in Utah. Like 97TurboDSM said, you usually plead guilty or innocent when you mail the ticket.

Honest_Bob · 11-24-2007, 02:47 PM

The guy got what he deserved. He was being an arrogant dick.

Uberu · 11-24-2007, 03:47 PM

Surprisingly everybody has supported their views with strong arguments which is a first on TST. However, i don't think anybody here could say they wouldn't be pissed if they got arrested from an unknown reason.

The girlfriend was being stupid and should have gotten tasered instead. It also ashame that the other cop was joking about it.

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 04:18 PM

Hopefully most people on here would have read Sarge's tips in the Law section. Those tips alone should keep everyone out of a situation like this. If the driver in this case followed a few of Sarge's rules (Be polite and don't hold court on the side of the road) then I think the situation would have had a much different outcome. Just my opinion.

Honest_Bob · 11-24-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cburwell

Hopefully most people on here would have read Sarge's tips in the Law section. Those tips alone should keep everyone out of a situation like this. If the driver in this case followed a few of Sarge's rules (Be polite and don't hold court on the side of the road) then I think the situation would have had a much different outcome. Just my opinion.

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WhiteXFire · 11-24-2007, 04:49 PM

http://forums.officer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77041

drew · 11-24-2007, 05:04 PM

he wasn't tazed for not signing the ticket, he was tazed because after being told he was under arrest he tried to talk back to his car

the officer was calm, this guy was just being a douche. if you want to argue the ticket that's fine but on the side of the highway isn't the place to do it

Scapegoat · 11-24-2007, 05:15 PM

how many times are we going to have threads started to try to make the police look like bad people?

Threads like these are basically being put out their as flame bait...

People will always disagree about police and how they handle situations because they are put on a pedestal and put in a position of power over the general public. Humans are animals, and most animals prefer the position of power; they prefer to be the alpha.

Police are as human as the rest of us, except the badge makes them the alpha. And those in the position alpha prefer to stay there and do not take lightly any challenge of that fact. And whether you like it or not, they are the alpha when you're getting pulled over and written up.

Deal with it, be respectful as any beta would be. Do not challenge the alpha and you will, usually, be fine.

And can we stop these lame ass threads?

cburwell · 11-24-2007, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

how many times are we going to have threads started to try to make the police look like bad people?

Threads like these are basically being put out their as flame bait...

People will always disagree about police and how they handle situations because they are put on a pedestal and put in a position of power over the general public. Humans are animals, and most animals prefer the position of power; they prefer to be the alpha.

Police are as human as the rest of us, except the badge makes them the alpha. And those in the position alpha prefer to stay there and do not take lightly any challenge of that fact. And whether you like it or not, they are the alpha when you're getting pulled over and written up.

Deal with it, be respectful as any beta would be. Do not challenge the alpha and you will, usually, be fine.

And can we stop these lame ass threads?

You make a valid point, but so far this thread has had a decent discussion going.

11-24-2007, 01:38 PM	#1
Jeffros Spec V Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Langhorne PA Member #263 iTrader: (0)	I know TST loves COP MOVIES so here is another debatable one.. Discusss. http://www.break.com/index/dude-taze...ng-ticket.html

11-24-2007, 01:56 PM	#2
cburwell Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2005 Member #303 iTrader: (0)	The driver is an idiot. He should have just signed the ticket instead of holding court on the side of the road. The driver exited the car and was acting like a fool, pointing and yelling. When the officer pulled the tazer out the driver tried to walk back to his car. At that point the officer did not know if he was going to get a gun or other weapon. The driver was not listening to the officers commands, so he got what he deserved. His wife is also lucky she didn't get tazed or a gun drawn on her for hopping out of the car when she was not told. In the end this dip**** will probably get some money out of this. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. "The Corvette took nearly 25 years to sell 500,000 units; the Z does it in fewer than 10."

11-24-2007, 02:12 PM	#3
Uberu Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2064 My Ride: 2006 Impreza 2.5i iTrader: (0)	The cop told him to get out of the car. The cop is the asshole, all the guy wanted to know what he did to get pulled over then to get arrested. There are so many cops out there who are stupid douchebags __________________ formerly SGMsubI Ha, is this possible, "And that's besides the fact that I'm lactose and tolerent lol..." -Willdue Wow

11-24-2007, 02:17 PM	#5
Jeffros Spec V Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Langhorne PA Member #263 iTrader: (0)	The guy didn't sign anything because he wasn't admitting guilt. He clearly stated he thought he wasn't speeding and wanted to know how fast the cop saw him going. The cop refused to answer. Then the cop told him to get out of the car for really no apparent reason at all. Actually he told him to get out of the car cause he was going to arrest the guy for not signing a ticket. I agree the wife is dumb for getting out of the car and she deserved to get tazed. Also the cop never told the guy why he was getting arrested and didn't read him his rights. When the other cop arrived he said "Oh he just took a little ride with the tazer." like it was a fun joke. Also the cop explination to the second cop clearly wasnt what actually happened. EDIT: Who called the second cop? I think it was the wife. This cop should have called for back up as soon as the guy didn't sign the ticket. Last edited by Jeffros Spec V; 11-24-2007 at 02:20 PM.

11-24-2007, 02:27 PM	#10
97TurboDSM TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Sep 2005 Member #849 My Ride: '03 IY 20th GTI iTrader: (3)	signing a ticket does not admit guilt. thats why there is a place on the ticket to plead guilty or not guilty so you can have your day in court if you so choose. EDIT: someone beat me to it. im going to try and find something on the ticket signing issue. __________________ FOR SALE! Canon 5D\|17-40L\|85mm f/1.8\|Sigmalux\|580ex

11-24-2007, 02:16 PM	#4
importpower99 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Allentown, PA Member #5620 My Ride: 2012 Xterra Pro 4X iTrader: (0)	ummmmm....The cop looked a little "taze happy". I don't understand why the cop tells him to put his hands on the hood and then pulls out his tazer at the same time. The cop also turns his back when walking to the crusier, WTF? I have never seen that before! When ever I been asked to step out of the car, the cop walks behind me and never turns his back to me. But the guy didn't follow any of the police officer's instuctions, so tazeing him would be justified.

11-24-2007, 02:47 PM	#13
Honest_Bob TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #1179 My Ride: 05 WRX Wagon iTrader: (2)	The guy got what he deserved. He was being an arrogant dick. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-24-2007, 03:47 PM	#14
Uberu Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2064 My Ride: 2006 Impreza 2.5i iTrader: (0)	Surprisingly everybody has supported their views with strong arguments which is a first on TST. However, i don't think anybody here could say they wouldn't be pissed if they got arrested from an unknown reason. The girlfriend was being stupid and should have gotten tasered instead. It also ashame that the other cop was joking about it. __________________ formerly SGMsubI Ha, is this possible, "And that's besides the fact that I'm lactose and tolerent lol..." -Willdue Wow

11-24-2007, 04:18 PM	#15
cburwell Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2005 Member #303 iTrader: (0)	Hopefully most people on here would have read Sarge's tips in the Law section. Those tips alone should keep everyone out of a situation like this. If the driver in this case followed a few of Sarge's rules (Be polite and don't hold court on the side of the road) then I think the situation would have had a much different outcome. Just my opinion. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. "The Corvette took nearly 25 years to sell 500,000 units; the Z does it in fewer than 10."

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11-24-2007, 05:04 PM	#18
drew Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Broomall, PA Member #2617 My Ride: fuzion & exploder iTrader: (8)	he wasn't tazed for not signing the ticket, he was tazed because after being told he was under arrest he tried to talk back to his car the officer was calm, this guy was just being a douche. if you want to argue the ticket that's fine but on the side of the highway isn't the place to do it __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-24-2007, 05:15 PM	#19
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	how many times are we going to have threads started to try to make the police look like bad people? Threads like these are basically being put out their as flame bait... People will always disagree about police and how they handle situations because they are put on a pedestal and put in a position of power over the general public. Humans are animals, and most animals prefer the position of power; they prefer to be the alpha. Police are as human as the rest of us, except the badge makes them the alpha. And those in the position alpha prefer to stay there and do not take lightly any challenge of that fact. And whether you like it or not, they are the alpha when you're getting pulled over and written up. Deal with it, be respectful as any beta would be. Do not challenge the alpha and you will, usually, be fine. And can we stop these lame ass threads?

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