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Why you are perfectly OK with police officers, many of whom only fire a gun twice a year for qualification, carrying weapons openly while insisting the rest of the population is too careless or incompetent to do so flies in the face of the "all men are created equal" idea that our entire society is premised on.
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and as for "people worried about stuff are the ones that fire out of panic" yea, they're called cops, and they mistakenly shoot more people than people that CC or OC. I can't add anything that hasn't been said in this thread...you clearly have personal issues with others carrying weapons..
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Ugh, I could start throwing up statistics but I don't feel like it. I am just gonna say for anyone who thinks handguns in and of themselves are dangerous, just do some research. It's fact that the states that have loose gun control have lower crime rates than those who have extreme gun control like D.C., California and New York. Our own Bureau of Justice states that handguns are the safest means of self-defense.
I understand that not everyone may be comfortable around guns but I also think even if you don't want anything to do with them, you should at least consider the fact that people have the right to protect themselves and can do so responsibly. guncite.com is a good source to read about stuff like this. That said, I don't think this thread will go anywhere and no one's going to change their mind about anything just because of this thread so I'm probably beating a dead horse by now.
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Hmm, let's see here. Car/bike crowd, with one of the more dangerous cities in PA only a couple miles away (Reading) can always create issues. I doubt anything would happen, but there is always a possibility.
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i grew up in reading. it's really not that terrible.
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I def agree that cops do hit alot of innocent people but at the same time I can guarentee they would have a lower mistake rate then random people with gun permits in the same situation though. Thats my best educated guess though.
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Well, I am not at all familiar with PA laws and only slightly familiar with NY laws. I do know however that in NY state it's governed by the county...that I have put down a non-refundable deposit on a handgun before I can even apply and that I must provide references with whom DO have handgun permits (I can't remember how many)...as well as submit to a background check. I'm sure there's a bit more to it, but that's all I know off the top of my head...and that's just to legally own a handgun. I also know it's quite difficult to get a permit to carry.
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guess I should bolt my chain gun to the MR2 in case you OCers try anything funny
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IIRC there is about 800k law enforcement officers (including the 120k employed by the federal government) and 80 million gun owners.
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