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Old 01-19-2011, 12:39 AM   #21
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never own a vw or Audi out of warranty. They are piles of garbage. If it has a warranty then I'm all for it. They are nice cars as long as you don't have to pay for repairs.
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Old 01-19-2011, 12:55 AM   #22
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speed 3 for sure. Has vw built anything good since 1989? Plus do you really want to be associated with hella flush and rusty hoods? Be honest.
Lol I like the look of hellaflush (not so much rusty) the community I dont reallt know about tho.

Which would be easyer/cheeper to make fast/add power knowing the 3 is faster stock
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:50 AM   #23
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the speed3 for sure...and dude a stanced speed 3 > gti....every one and their grandma has seen a stanced gti, not a stanced speed3? hmmm yes its sexy. speed3s are great cars all around, there are speed3s runnin around with 380wph on stock black and stock clutch. pretty impressive
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:29 AM   #24
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speed3 is faster but the gti has waaaay more class
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:02 AM   #25
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I considered both (and the Civic Si) before I got the Speed 3. The Speed had more power, and more room in the hatch. The VW definitely feels more refined, but I could care less about that. If I wanted refined I would have bought another Acura.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:56 AM   #26
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lol @ acura = refined LMAO
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:59 AM   #27
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I thought Acura was just overpriced Honda with leather :-)
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:01 AM   #28
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it is. period, no other discussion to it.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:02 AM   #29
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I dont really get why people put the honda logo on there acuras, to me an acura is like a luxury honda (if there is such thing) so putting the honda logo on it is like saying you bought a cheeper car, why would you want to do that
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:03 AM   #30
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because its "jdm", that H symbol came overnight from japan.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:26 AM   #31
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Which GTI are we talking about so we can have input on making power with it...
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:34 AM   #32
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the gtis a wanna be class car, its either people who wanna go dub hella flush. or gay guys who drive around with coffee and scarfs.
us speed3 owners pull bitches, hard.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:46 AM   #33
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As has been said by others if you are buying new than the GTi is in the running. If used don't even consider it. I have had many family and friends own VW/Audi and want to kill themselves over electrical problems with the cars once they get older.

If I were in your dilemma I'd choose the Speed3.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:49 AM   #34
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Which GTI are we talking about so we can have input on making power with it...
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:50 AM   #35
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If you want to have fun with it, get the Mazda. You can be right at 300hp with very little work on a MS3. The thing with Mazda is that all their cars are drivers cars - meaning they are made for people to drive them and enjoy them and its especially true in their sports cars. In constant shootouts between the Cobalt SS, WRX, MS3, and the GTI - the MS3 was usually the #1 or #2 spot.

I really don't have anything positive or negative to say about the GTI. All I know is that I've had multiple friends that had VW (some modded, some bone stock) and they were absolute nightmares. If it were a TDI though, I'd say get that over anything ;)
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:52 AM   #36
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Stock turbo is good to about 260-270whp with full bolt-ons. From there if you can find a deal you can run a ko4 for about $2200 extra and make over 300 whp. Also have big turbo options to make close to 500whp. I have a buddy's car here making between 4-450whp, but he has a built motor and some money invested
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:53 AM   #37
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I do really like the TDIs but there hard to find
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:06 PM   #38
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lol @ acura = refined LMAO
Acura>GTI>Mazda in refinement.............
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:18 PM   #39
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if you're looking to get into a vw, go for a mk6 if you can afford it. everything in the car is an improvement over the mk5. I have never owned, driven, or maintained a Mazda so I cannot speak about them, but I will say that VWs (when properly maintained) are excellent cars with a great deal of support(vwvortex) and aftermarket for parts. My 2000 vr6 has 115k miles and has needed nothing other than general maintenance with the exception of an A/C compressor that cost $350 and control arm bushings.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:53 PM   #40
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Mazdaspeed3. because it isnt slow and overly heavy for what it is

I would however fix that stupid grin the MS3 has
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