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The ones who do not pay taxes are generally employed by American citizens who choose to use them. What's ironic is some of these employers are wealthy, so they're more inclined to be Republican, yet out of greedy they choose to save money by hiring illegals. I've read Heaven's Door by Borjas and Dividing Lines by Tichenor, both of which are published by Princeton. |
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08-04-2010, 04:07 PM | #22 | |
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Most of these people are just trying to come here to give their families a better life. If it was as easy to become a citizen like it was 100's of years ago they wouldn't have to resort to finding loop hole's and breaking the law. I would bet 99% of you have had family members migrate here so that YOU could have a better life. Why the hell would you not want others to have the same opportunity? (give me a moral reason to why instead of just "its my stolen land, stay out"). Unless your a Native American Indian (remember them?) you have no right to complain about immigrants imo.
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Thing is, this isnt 100 years ago. We can't live in the past. People NOW are breaking the law, reguardless of how you view it. We have follow all of our rules why shouldn't they? I dont care if they want to come and make a better life for themself, thats good and fine. There are plenty of legal ways to do it as far as im concerned. I have a friend who will be getting married to what will be an immigrant and she is going though all the right channels, why can't they?
Im ok with immigration. Illegal immigration, im not going to shed a tear over.
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I also think it should be taken a step further and everyone should be tested. I bet half of this forum, let alone the US legal population, can't sing our anthem, correctly say the pledge of allegiance, and also know of our history, laws, founding fathers, etc. That is just one aspect of being a citizen. Then, you come into language. Other than that, a lot of people are not good citizens. They hate the government, they work against it. Some leech off of it. Then, again, that has been made easily thanks to the neocon rise in the past 40 years. I also won't blame on everyone having jobs because out of the millions of undocumented illegals at least 10% of them are out there working jobs that should be available to Americans. Alas, the employers make it easy for the illegals to get those jobs and harbor them with shelter on top of the jobs. It's a lot of issues, not just one. It's complicated and it won't get fixed by this administration, the next, or the one after that. It's been in the making since this country was founded and, just like the economic problem, it will be dealt with slowly, but surely, just like everything else in a democracy. Slavery was wrong since the start, and it took how long and how much blood and lives to get rid of it? Exactly. Even decades after everything was law the blacks were still discriminated and still are suffering from severe disadvantages. Civil rights is still going on!
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everytime you post i imagine its a speech bubble from your avatar.. that vid is hilarious.
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I wish we could figure out how to secure the borders before we start writing more laws. With that said the Reps know it will get blocked, I say they are pandering.
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And I read it, just would rather not continue the rant.
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08-04-2010, 06:48 PM | #29 |
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how about...who cares who comes to this country. but if you do come, you have to pay double of the taxes and we get a tax relief at the end of the year. id vote for that.
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You are a ****ing idiot. You are a citizen of this nation and should serve in its best interest. Anything else makes you a separatist and you should be shot for treason. You can sit out because there are a lot of people who don't believe in god as it is phrased in the pledge. Get your facts straight, sir.
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i think some of you are still overlooking the word ILLEGAL...
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i know you mentioned it.
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So I doubt the Constitution will change. One of the main reasons these illegal immigrants emigrate to America is for their children and the prospect of them enjoying the American dream. Take that away from them and less will come. |
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08-05-2010, 12:55 AM | #38 |
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Not only are illegal immigrants stealing jobs from US citizens, they are sending most of their hard earned money back to their families in their home country. A friend of mine owns his own company and has a guy working for him whose been in America for over 20 years illegally and has literally sent almost $60,000 back over the border to his family. I know this because I've asked him lol
funny thing is he speaks perfect English when its convenient and pretends to not understand it the rest of the time. But the sad truth is its super cheap and they'll work their asses off. Not most of the time, ALL of the time 7 days a week if needed without complaint. My father in law also owns his own concrete/ masonry business and refuses to hire illegal immigrants. He used to prefer hiring convicts fresh out of prison (kind of a second chance kind of thing, and I admire that) who all started as great employees with a new lease on life. But after time they would bitch and moan like everyone else, always ask for a raise, and were generally ungrateful. He has since decided to work solo. Immigration is cool with me when done legally. Hell I'm for diversity and all that jazz, its the spice of life lol. But you come here illegally, you best pack your ****ing bags and git' to steppin'
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I could care less why you want to sit out, unless you have no legs you should be standing. End- My facts are straight, you can be righteous and sit down during the pledge, but you'll have no problem spending the money with God written on it too. Hope your day get's a little brighter. Love, ****ing idiot
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