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Willdue · 06-20-2007, 03:36 PM

Ok, so this winter I wanna do one swap...

I have a 91 Laser 1.8L & a 97 Eclipse GS...

1. New 420a motor and boost it?

2. 4G63T in the Laser?

3. 4G63 in the Eclipse?

I dont wanna push crazy boost, like 6-10lbs will satisfy me. Id rather do the eclipse, and drive the laser all winter while the eclipse gets swapped or w.e

But whats my best bet as for price, reliability and ect. Is it even worth it? Like i said, i dont wanna push crazy boost, juss somthing to drive DD on, nothing crazy, few bolt ons, you know. And if I do the eclipse, Id keep the laser as a 2nd car bc it is so cheap a month.

ToTheIX's · 06-20-2007, 03:59 PM

itd be more cost effective to just turbo the 420a if your only lookin at 6-10lbs....

Willdue · 06-20-2007, 04:03 PM

that what i figured... id be happy with 8lbs

cxrock16 · 06-20-2007, 06:03 PM

sell both cars and get a gsx

Willdue · 06-20-2007, 07:44 PM

nah, dont feel like loosing my ass on $ and paying high ins.

EvlEgl · 06-20-2007, 10:24 PM

High Insurance is a stupid excused to not get one, I paid more a month for my 95 RS than i did for my 90 Tsi, A 4g63 swap in a 420a car is pretty dumb, and If I recall the engine bay is different in a Non turbo car....But dont hold me to that.

And you say you only want 6 to 10lbs of boost, Wait till you actually get to that point and start driving with it everyday, You ALWAYS want more.

I vote sell both and get a GS-T, Check out insurance rates before you start saying its gonna be more expensive.

turbo4g63 · 06-20-2007, 10:45 PM

you're gonna want more, my new clutch is just broken in, so i turned my boost up to 20psi and my car felt like a f'n beast. then i turned it down to 17..and guess what, i want more. i was thinking on the way home from work tonight that i already want a bigger turbo and more fuel system stuff, you always want more...if you are looking for a dsm...go with a 1g. look around and try to find yourself a 92...w/ a 6 bolt motor, and a 4 bolt rear, insurace won't be bad

EvlEgl · 06-20-2007, 10:50 PM

Yep, My insurance dropped like 900 Bucks when I got my 1g and that was with like 6 points on my liscense and being 19 years old on my own policy, and living in NJ

enigma · 06-20-2007, 11:40 PM

Hell, i pay 118 a month for my talon, which ain't that bad. I think an eclipse would be a few bucks more, since they were a slightly more popular car.
On a budget, my vote would be to sell the 2g, and buy a 1g GSX, or GST. No money worries, i'd still sell the 2 g, and buy a GST or GSX 2g.
Or you could just do a built motor on the 420a, thye can make some HP, you just gotta build it right. And the tranny, must put money into the tranny. You can make power with the 420, you just gotta put more money into it than you would with a 4G63.

Willdue · 06-20-2007, 11:45 PM

If i do decide to do this...Im gunna buy a 420 and build it correctly...thanks for all the imput.

EvlEgl · 06-20-2007, 11:51 PM

you already have a 420a...Why buy another one?

turbo4g63 · 06-21-2007, 12:11 AM

i'm just adding this in there...i think it might actually be cheaper for you to get a 1g awd. figure, you're gonna get another 420a motor, build that...if you do it right, it's gonna cost you a good buck...then turbo it ($$$), fuel system upgrades ($$$), trans and clutch work ($$$) b/c it's def. gonna break. its only meant to handle 150 hp...and you'd be way above that. and your insurance would probably drop b/c its a little bit older car with the benefit of awd which would be good to get you around during winter time

turbo4g63 · 06-21-2007, 12:33 AM

this would be a perfect starting point

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-...QQcmdZViewItem

Willdue · 06-21-2007, 01:16 AM

thanks guys...I made my final discision due to I dont wanna go all out, i cant see myself doing that, and I dont want another car, i like the 2 cars I have...

RayArroyo · 06-21-2007, 09:28 AM

i think a gallo24 will be a better motor

Willdue · 06-21-2007, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

i think a gallo24 will be a better motor

gallo24?

TrboChicsRock · 06-21-2007, 11:18 AM

For the amount of money it'll cost you to do a built motor and buy a turbo kit for the GS, you could own a 1G awd and still have your other two cars. And the stock 1G will probably still be faster than the turbo GS and most importantly it'll be awd.

Built motors are NOT cheap. Trust me. I get everything discounted through my work and it still cost me a couple thousand dollars.

RayArroyo · 06-21-2007, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willdue

gallo24?

i didnt know pizza places made engines. corny line from 2f2f

Willdue · 06-21-2007, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

i didnt know pizza places made engines. corny line from 2f2f

lol, i came back from break and i was like gallo24? i was like rays ****ing wit me haha.

nah, i cant see myself buying another car...ill juss continue in the direction i was going...

mr_eh · 06-21-2007, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

i think a gallo24 will be a better motor

i read that and started laughing.

06-20-2007, 03:36 PM	#1
Willdue Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Catasaqua Member #2000 My Ride: To many VW's iTrader: (3)	What would Be Better... Ok, so this winter I wanna do one swap... I have a 91 Laser 1.8L & a 97 Eclipse GS... 1. New 420a motor and boost it? 2. 4G63T in the Laser? 3. 4G63 in the Eclipse? I dont wanna push crazy boost, like 6-10lbs will satisfy me. Id rather do the eclipse, and drive the laser all winter while the eclipse gets swapped or w.e But whats my best bet as for price, reliability and ect. Is it even worth it? Like i said, i dont wanna push crazy boost, juss somthing to drive DD on, nothing crazy, few bolt ons, you know. And if I do the eclipse, Id keep the laser as a 2nd car bc it is so cheap a month.

06-20-2007, 06:03 PM	#4
cxrock16 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: breinigsville,pa Member #2927 My Ride: 2004 es are tee four iTrader: (0)	sell both cars and get a gsx __________________ injen shortram, blitz turbo timer, mopar sts,mopar rice plate,tinted mopar multilayer tails, thats all for now To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-20-2007, 10:24 PM	#6
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	High Insurance is a stupid excused to not get one, I paid more a month for my 95 RS than i did for my 90 Tsi, A 4g63 swap in a 420a car is pretty dumb, and If I recall the engine bay is different in a Non turbo car....But dont hold me to that. And you say you only want 6 to 10lbs of boost, Wait till you actually get to that point and start driving with it everyday, You ALWAYS want more. I vote sell both and get a GS-T, Check out insurance rates before you start saying its gonna be more expensive. __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

06-20-2007, 10:45 PM	#7
turbo4g63 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: near west chester Member #1057 My Ride: 98' 4runner iTrader: (0)	you're gonna want more, my new clutch is just broken in, so i turned my boost up to 20psi and my car felt like a f'n beast. then i turned it down to 17..and guess what, i want more. i was thinking on the way home from work tonight that i already want a bigger turbo and more fuel system stuff, you always want more...if you are looking for a dsm...go with a 1g. look around and try to find yourself a 92...w/ a 6 bolt motor, and a 4 bolt rear, insurace won't be bad __________________ Bill If you guys see a possum...try to kill it, it's not a pet!

06-20-2007, 10:50 PM	#8
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	Yep, My insurance dropped like 900 Bucks when I got my 1g and that was with like 6 points on my liscense and being 19 years old on my own policy, and living in NJ __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

06-20-2007, 04:03 PM	#3
Willdue Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Catasaqua Member #2000 My Ride: To many VW's iTrader: (3)	that what i figured... id be happy with 8lbs

06-20-2007, 07:44 PM	#5
Willdue Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Catasaqua Member #2000 My Ride: To many VW's iTrader: (3)	nah, dont feel like loosing my ass on $ and paying high ins.

06-20-2007, 11:40 PM	#9
enigma Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glenolden ,PA Member #2659 My Ride: Hoopties galore iTrader: (0)	Hell, i pay 118 a month for my talon, which ain't that bad. I think an eclipse would be a few bucks more, since they were a slightly more popular car. On a budget, my vote would be to sell the 2g, and buy a 1g GSX, or GST. No money worries, i'd still sell the 2 g, and buy a GST or GSX 2g. Or you could just do a built motor on the 420a, thye can make some HP, you just gotta build it right. And the tranny, must put money into the tranny. You can make power with the 420, you just gotta put more money into it than you would with a 4G63. __________________ 2001 Dakota Quad Cab, 1996 Ford F250, 1993 Honda Civic, 1991 Eagle Talon, 1970 Plymouth Duster.

06-20-2007, 11:45 PM	#10
Willdue Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Catasaqua Member #2000 My Ride: To many VW's iTrader: (3)	If i do decide to do this...Im gunna buy a 420 and build it correctly...thanks for all the imput.

06-20-2007, 11:51 PM	#11
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	you already have a 420a...Why buy another one? __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

06-21-2007, 12:11 AM	#12
turbo4g63 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: near west chester Member #1057 My Ride: 98' 4runner iTrader: (0)	i'm just adding this in there...i think it might actually be cheaper for you to get a 1g awd. figure, you're gonna get another 420a motor, build that...if you do it right, it's gonna cost you a good buck...then turbo it ($$$), fuel system upgrades ($$$), trans and clutch work ($$$) b/c it's def. gonna break. its only meant to handle 150 hp...and you'd be way above that. and your insurance would probably drop b/c its a little bit older car with the benefit of awd which would be good to get you around during winter time __________________ Bill If you guys see a possum...try to kill it, it's not a pet!

06-21-2007, 12:33 AM	#13
turbo4g63 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: near west chester Member #1057 My Ride: 98' 4runner iTrader: (0)	this would be a perfect starting point http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RARE-...QQcmdZViewItem __________________ Bill If you guys see a possum...try to kill it, it's not a pet!

06-21-2007, 01:16 AM	#14
Willdue Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Catasaqua Member #2000 My Ride: To many VW's iTrader: (3)	thanks guys...I made my final discision due to I dont wanna go all out, i cant see myself doing that, and I dont want another car, i like the 2 cars I have...

06-21-2007, 09:28 AM	#15
RayArroyo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ALBANY/PHILLY Member #205 My Ride: GTR/RSTI/MDX Sport iTrader: (3)	i think a gallo24 will be a better motor __________________ formerly ray@turbotek

06-21-2007, 11:18 AM	#17
TrboChicsRock Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Member #152 My Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX, 2012 WRX Premium iTrader: (1)	For the amount of money it'll cost you to do a built motor and buy a turbo kit for the GS, you could own a 1G awd and still have your other two cars. And the stock 1G will probably still be faster than the turbo GS and most importantly it'll be awd. Built motors are NOT cheap. Trust me. I get everything discounted through my work and it still cost me a couple thousand dollars. __________________ - Jessica 1998 Eclipse GSX 11.2 @ 126 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.