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Old 12-08-2008, 10:20 PM   #1
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Thefro526's not an SR,KA,RB,CA,JZ,VQ or LSX S13 Build thread....

So, I finally decided I'm going to start my build thread since I'm starting to amass parts. I have a 1991 S13 hatch with like a bajillion miles so I decided I'm gonna do a hardcore rebuild on it. So I have 3 main goals:

1) This car will drift. Period, no hard parking BS for me.

2) I want to run a mid 12 second quarter mile, should be enough to beat most cars out there.

3) I want the car to be stable in excess of 160mph.

Here's my thought process on engines:

I don't want an SR, because everyone has an SR.

I don't want a KA-T, because they're also pretty common.

I don't want an RB or a CA because they're both a pain to get parts for.

I don't want a 1JZ or a 2JZ because I'd prefer to run a Nissan motor.

Then I came to realization that I didn't want a turbo motor because well, that just more stuff to go wrong and then I have and Intercooler and BOV and blah blah blah... So I'm like "Hey!!! I'll get an NA motor, that'll be the sex!" Then I realized I want 300hp... So that means I need some serious displacement. So start looking:

First I'm like ZOMG LS1!!! But they're expensive and common at the drag strip.

Then I was like Hmmm.... VQ35? It's a computer with an engine attached...

So then I realized that I'm gonna need a motor that fits a few things.

Not boosted
Must Be a Nissan Engine
Easy to get basic parts for
Easy to wire and tune
Not a common engine in 240's

So I start searching, and I almost gave up... Until I decided on a...

VH45DE!!! ZOMG!!!!

Most of you are going to be like, "WTF is a VH45?" Well, it's the V8 engine out of an Infiniti Q45 made from 1991-1996 or Nissan President of the same years. It's easy to find basic parts for and the motors are common in Junkyards now. They're rated at 270 something horsepower stock so I should have no problem at all getting 300 horsepower out of one.

So then I'm like, "this is so win!!" until I hit a brick wall in my plan. So, the Infiniti Q45 was a luxury car, and didn't come with a manual transmission ever. So they're no Nissan transmission that bolts up to the VH45... So you need an adapter plate.... They're rare and super expensive. So a few weeks ago I was on eBay and saw one and bought it. It mates a 300zx transmission to the Vh45 and uses a 300zx clutch and flywheel.

Blah Blah Blah.... Now I have an Adapter plate worth about a grand that I got for less that $300 and a 300zx Transmission, Clutch, and Flywheel sitting at my house. A motor's coming in a week or two and should be in the car by the 1st of the year.

So yeah.... Here's my PLANNED mod list:

Engine:

-VH45DE From a 1991-1995 Q45, the 1996's had OBD 2 and made less power
-Mazworx Headers
-Custom Intake
-Bosozoku Styled Exhaust
-Multi Setting ECU Reflash
-Custom Mounts
-Aluminum Rad, fans, blah blah blah

That's good for about 300whp all day long on a stock motor.

Drivetrain:

-Custom VH45DE to 300zx Transmission adaptor plate.
-NA 300zx transmission
-Random Stage 3 Clutch (got it with the trans so I'm gonna use it to get the car running)
-NA 300zx flywheel
-One Peice Custom Drive Shaft
-Q45 Diff for the 3.54 final drive
-Q45/300zx tt 30 spline axles
-Q45/300zx tt spindles

Suspension:

-5 Lug all around
-All new bushings
-Modified front spindles
-All new suspension arms
-Solid subframe mounts
-Powered By Max Coilovers (this thing is gonna be slammed)

Brakes:

-Z32 conversion all around
-Working cable e-brake
-Hydro E-Brake
-Z32 Master Cylinder
-Stainless Lines

Wheels and tires:

-Needs More thought, most likely 10" wide in the rear and 9" up front, no stretching tires. And Not knock-off wheels.

Exterior:

-Knock off Uras kit (I'm gonna drift this car, remember?)
-Overfenders
-New hood to clear the VH
-Roof spoiler
-Custom Electronically adjust able GT wing
-Stickers
-Other win Stuff.

Interior:

-Full interior
-Working Heat and Maybe AC
-Bolt in Cage with Harness Bar
-Cool Drivers Seat (Depends on Cost)
-R33 Passenger Seat
-JDM Cupholder
-Speedometer that goes to 180mph
-JDM air freshener.

Once again, that's my PLANNED mods list. Some things will change as time goes on most likely.

And for those of you who are like dude you'll never finish this, the car will be built in stages with deadlines as follows:

January 1st- Want to Have the VH in the car and mounted, Harnesses should be sent out that week to get spliced.

Febuary 1st- VH Should have been started and somewhat running, begin rear end work and suspension work.

Mid March- Basic suspension (coilovers, bushings, arms) and rear end should be finalized and completed.

Mid-Late April- Brakes should be finished and finalized. Car will mechanically complete for the most part, except for extravagant parts (Modded front spindles, Hydro E-Brake, Stuff Like that)

Body work will not begin until mid summer if at all next season. I want to be comfortable in the car before I begin to dump money into the exterior and interior of it.

So yeah, that's the plan for my build thread lol... I just spent and hour writing so I want this to be an epic discussion.

As for now I don't have many pics to show, I just have shots of the adapter plate and the transmission stuff. The engine should be in my possession on or around the 23rd of this month and then the epic work will begin.

Thank you's: (I'll keep updating this as the build goes on)

-JDM Will, he's the man-period, don't fight it.
-My Brother John Michael (Red3KGT) For inspiration and help
-My Friend Steve (Not on here) who I bounce ideas off of.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:22 PM   #2
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Sounds awesome. I'll be checking back for updates.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:29 PM   #3
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People are going to have a hard time believing you're only 17, and no where near 18 yet.

Sounds like a solid plan, Dus. Can I call you Dus? This is going to be a pretty epic car. I can't wait to see it!
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:36 PM   #4
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Seems like your going to be using alot Z parts... Sucks i didnt know you were going to do this awhile ago...
Best of luck to you man, she's going to be a killer!
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:39 PM   #5
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sounds like its going to be a badass car. good luck with it.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:42 PM   #6
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People are going to have a hard time believing you're only 17, and no where near 18 yet.

Sounds like a solid plan, Dus. Can I call you Dus? This is going to be a pretty epic car. I can't wait to see it!
Haha yeah, I'm waiting for the haters to show up and be like dude you won't do this... And yeah sure you can call me Dus if you want lol.

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Seems like your going to be using alot Z parts... Sucks i didnt know you were going to do this awhile ago...
Best of luck to you man, she's going to be a killer!
Haha yeah... I might try to pick up a totalled TT or something because I'm gonna use a lot of the brakes and rear.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:43 PM   #7
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wow dude awesome ideas good luck with it.il defenetally be checking back to see progress
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:50 PM   #8
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u know i'm here to help out a helping hand dustin. anything u need bro. plus if u do this b4 march u win the bet with mark...lol .
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:52 PM   #9
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u know i'm here to help out a helping hand dustin. anything u need bro. plus if u do this b4 march u win the bet with mark...lol .
Hahaha maybe...
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:03 PM   #10
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Welcome to the V8 club Dustin This project will be sick!
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lol...i'd like to see you beat mark, he'll think of every excuse in the book

that is, if he ever gets his car 3 months ago
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People are going to have a hard time believing you're only 17, and no where near 18 yet.

Sounds like a solid plan, Dus. Can I call you Dus? This is going to be a pretty epic car. I can't wait to see it!
Whats so hard about believing he is 17? I did a full rear suspension swap when I was 16.

On topic, sounds like you have some good ideas and know where you're headed.
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:15 PM   #13
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well Dustin my hat is off for you sir. im more excited about this build than mind. now get cracking on this i wanna drifty it.
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zomg... dustin u wanna sell me your ka and tranny lol...
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Whats a build thread with out the massive parts pile picture?
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lol...i'd like to see you beat mark, he'll think of every excuse in the book

that is, if he ever gets his car 3 months ago
Haha, James I love you to death but please don't bring up the mark thing, and that goes for anyone else.

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Whats so hard about believing he is 17? I did a full rear suspension swap when I was 16.

On topic, sounds like you have some good ideas and know where you're headed.
Haha thanks, the 17 year old thing is because of the expense and the fact that I'm paying for it all out of pocket.

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well Dustin my hat is off for you sir. im more excited about this build than mind. now get cracking on this i wanna drifty it.
Haha thanks, you're like the person I wanted approval from the most.
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Haha, James I love you to death but please don't bring up the mark thing, and that goes for anyone else.
LMAO EVERY one of your responses to people's posts started with "haha"

but i won't bring it up again
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LMAO EVERY one of your responses to people's posts started with "haha"

but i won't bring it up again
It helps me think.... thanks btw, it's not fair to him to be posted about, you know?
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Haha we live in the same house, you can walk outside and see it
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It helps me think.... thanks btw, it's not fair to him to be posted about, you know?
nah, mark knows he's my boy....i haven't seen him in a while though
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