Haiti...What's your Take?

[HickRocket1258]

So, I wanted to see what everyone elses take was on this disaster. Seems to be a big contraversy with many people. You agree with helping, don't agree?

[jpalamar]

1. We are in too much debt to help other countries.
2. We have plenty of homeless and starving people here that aren't taken care of
3. Haiti is a country that has been given alot of aid money already and has yet to flurish with it. It's time to drop it
4. The geography is bad. It is prown to natural desasters so why keep rebuilding it. It is only logical that bad things will continue.

* If we 'must' send help then send a few soldier with guys and say military law is in effect, you f' up we shoot without question. Then hire our homess/jobless in our country and pay them to go over there and help out. If we are going to spend the money, we might as well help stimulate our economy and help our citizens at the same time.

[Proven]

Naturally its a horrible situation and 100's of thousands of people are w/ out homes and structure. I do agree with Jpalamar in some aspects but one of the things that makes me "Proud to be American" is when our Government jump's at the opportunity to help others (including its own of course). I think if we can, we should, its as simple as that.

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[igo4bmx]

Originally Posted by mr_eh

did haiti help out katrina victims? -_-

Originally Posted by jpalamar

1. We are in too much debt to help other countries.
2. We have plenty of homeless and starving people here that aren't taken care of
3. Haiti is a country that has been given alot of aid money already and has yet to flurish with it. It's time to drop it
4. The geography is bad. It is prown to natural desasters so why keep rebuilding it. It is only logical that bad things will continue.

* If we 'must' send help then send a few soldier with guys and say military law is in effect, you f' up we shoot without question. Then hire our homess/jobless in our country and pay them to go over there and help out. If we are going to spend the money, we might as well help stimulate our economy and help our citizens at the same time.

wow you make it sound so simple

[mcperson2k]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

1. We are in too much debt to help other countries.
2. We have plenty of homeless and starving people here that aren't taken care of
3. Haiti is a country that has been given alot of aid money already and has yet to flurish with it. It's time to drop it
4. The geography is bad. It is prown to natural desasters so why keep rebuilding it. It is only logical that bad things will continue.

* If we 'must' send help then send a few soldier with guys and say military law is in effect, you f' up we shoot without question. Then hire our homess/jobless in our country and pay them to go over there and help out. If we are going to spend the money, we might as well help stimulate our economy and help our citizens at the same time.

Wow, that is really ****ed up....

I went to a Christian University for a year, so I met a bunch of righteous people. One of my friends, Brittany has been volunteering at an orphanage in Haiti for over a year. Taking online classes at night when the children are sleeping.

http://www.hookedonhaiti.blogspot.com/

Basically all the buildings around the orphanage are down, except the orphanage its self. It has some big cracks, so they have been sleeping on a driveway that they covered in mattresses which we probably wouldn't consider mattresses because the after shocks are big, and still downing buildings. They have food, but not nearly enough to last much longer. The problem is that all the markets and grocery stores are rubble, so they cant just go out and buy food to eat, even though they have the money....

But that's cool... Just let everyone starve to death and live outside... Not a big deal right? God forbid we add a couple more cents to our taxes.

Here is Brittany and the orphanage in their new house...

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by mcperson2k

Wow, that is really ****ed up....

You say this... but what have you done to help other countries in your life. Are you in debt because you sent them money/aid that you didn't have. Did you ever volentee to go overseas to help clean up after a disaster. Until you do this, don't talk to me about my additite. If it weren't for people that had the guts to just say we can't afford this, we would have an even bigger deficit then we already do.

[mcperson2k]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

You say this... but what have you done to help other countries in your life. Are you in debt because you sent them money/aid that you didn't have. Did you ever volentee to go overseas to help clean up after a disaster. Until you do this, don't talk to me about my additite. If it weren't for people that had the guts to just say we can't afford this, we would have an even bigger deficit then we already do.

LOL I am so glad you directed this at me.

Like I said previously, I completed a year at a Christian University. (Lee University to be exact). However I was actually there for 3 semesters, but never completed my third. Within that time I have gone to Mexico twice to help build buildings, and spend time with children in orphanages. That was in Mexico, I cant tell you how many times I have gone with my school to help local people in need. One time we just helped clean someones house, and cleaned up their yard which was covered in junk, but help is help. So that is my volunteering experience... As far as donations, my parents donate money every single time a natural disaster like this happens. I was raised this way, and expected to do the same, so my girlfriend and I have already mailed 100.00 dollars to my friend Brittany who lives in Haiti. Might not be a lot to you, but its a lot to them.

So, you can keep saying the reason you don't think we should help is because of the state the US is in, but everyone who reads your writing, knows in their head that the real issue is the fact that your a greedy, selfish individual, who rather have the next great Xbox game, than to help someone you don't know live a better life. You don't better anyone's life but your own, and than when others try to help, you give them grief. I don't think you realize just how many pairs of pants, your 1 pair of 70 dollar jeans can buy for children who don't even have a single pair of pants to wear...

[angdefeo]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

If it weren't for people that had the guts to just say we can't afford this, we would have an even bigger deficit then we already do.

The last adminsitration which on paper are supposed to be fiscally conservative grew the deficit more than any other prior administration in history.

Until people wise up in our country, we may slowly turn into a country needing help from other places.


Here is something to keep in mind when it comes to promised aide when a natural disaster happens. Most of the help that is pledged is never given. When it comes to our country, the USA. They are sending military personal there to help. Its already people that were being paid. So instead of chalking up their salary to military life and training, its not being used to help Haiti. So lets not all think that the money we pledged is a blank check that Haiti will spend.

US companies will get a chance to rebuild infrastructure, clear the debris and sell them millions of dollars in equipment, power plants, phone systems after things are cleaned up. We dont give financial aide to a country that wont scratch our back.

For example, has the US ever helped an African country that was in need. We dropped off grain and rice from planes and walked away. Why? Cause they wont buy US things later.

So lets not think that any aide is charity. Its really an opportunity to sell more products.

[Fujito]

We should give them McDonald's. Doing so would help both our countries.

[Whitekryptonit3]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

1. We are in too much debt to help other countries.
2. We have plenty of homeless and starving people here that aren't taken care of
3. Haiti is a country that has been given alot of aid money already and has yet to flurish with it. It's time to drop it
4. The geography is bad. It is prown to natural desasters so why keep rebuilding it. It is only logical that bad things will continue.

* If we 'must' send help then send a few soldier with guys and say military law is in effect, you f' up we shoot without question. Then hire our homess/jobless in our country and pay them to go over there and help out. If we are going to spend the money, we might as well help stimulate our economy and help our citizens at the same time.

I agree...

[mr_eh]

did haiti help out katrina victims? -_-

[importpower99]

Originally Posted by mr_eh

did haiti help out katrina victims? -_-

Uhhh yes, they sent $37,000 dollars and they fought in two wars with the US, does that make them good enough now? Because I thought a person was a person? Seriously I don't understand what is wrong with some people sometimes.

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by importpower99

Uhhh yes, they sent $37,000 dollars and they fought in two wars with the US, does that make them good enough now? Because I thought a person was a person? Seriously I don't understand what is wrong with some people sometimes.

People are people. And yes, if any county has the means to help they should... but we don't. Helping on credit doesn't mantain our prosperity. You can't help people until you can help yourself first... and we cant.

Max your own credit card out and send them money if you wanna help. Thats what you expect the US to do.

[importpower99]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

People are people. And yes, if any county has the means to help they should... but we don't. Helping on credit doesn't mantain our prosperity. You can't help people until you can help yourself first... and we cant.

Max your own credit card out and send them money if you wanna help. Thats what you expect the US to do.

You are aware that money is set aside for disasters like this to help people....right?

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by importpower99

You are aware that money is set aside for disasters like this to help people....right?

Are you aware we have a deficit?? and until that is settled there shouldn't be aid money set aside for aid.

[mr_eh]

Originally Posted by importpower99

Uhhh yes, they sent $37,000 dollars and they fought in two wars with the US, does that make them good enough now? Because I thought a person was a person? Seriously I don't understand what is wrong with some people sometimes.

did they really now? that's nice... i didnt say we shouldnt help them or that they werent people... also what wars did they fight?

http://www.america.gov/st/foraid-eng...0.8872644.html

15 September 2008
U.S. Provides $19.5 Million to Help Haiti Recover from Storms

Read more: http://www.america.gov/st/foraid-eng...#ixzz0chV5FRIX

[importpower99]

Originally Posted by mr_eh

did they really now? that's nice... i didnt say we shouldnt help them or that they werent people... also what wars did they fight?

http://www.america.gov/st/foraid-eng...0.8872644.html

I wasn't referring to you saying that humans aren't human. The Grenada war, although that could easily be flipped and say that we helped them.

[HickRocket1258]

I got this from someone on another forum and think they were pretty accurate with what they said.


Sending help, yeah, send medical aid, send food, water, some sort of shelter.. These are human beings, none of them had a choice where they were born, or how they were brought up. Human suffering, you'd think in this day and age it would be gone, but it's not..

I do not agree with sending money.. I dont write checks to people, if the money isnt in the bank, or if I have more pressing issues in my life that need to be taken care of first.. The US is in that position.. If I know someone that needs help, but I have no money to offer, I put my gloves on, put my life on hold and I help.. The odd thing is, help, in the form of actually putting forth effort to help, goes MUCH further than just giving money..

Tell me this, hand those people 1000 bucks each, what good has it done?? Does anyone think they can just go to the store and buy the things they need, go to the hospital? The place is a waste land, WTF are they going to do with money? A 100 bucks, will be cut down to just a few bucks by the time it gets to the people who need it.. On the other hand, give them food, water, shelter, medical care, I'll be damned, you just saved a life.

Thats what people dont get, money doesnt mean a ****ing thing. If I knew that 100 bucks would go towards food, or that 100 bucks would go towards the jet fuel to get other supplies there, every last cent of it, I'd have no problem with giving 100 bucks. Here's the deal, that 100 bucks will be nothing by the time it reaches wherever to do the job I intended it to do.. If we pledged 100 million, every last cent of that 100 million should spent on supplies, from the US, and sent to those who need it, we all know that it wont happen that way.

Yeah we have problems as a country, but one thing that we have is people willing to help, supplies that were produced and stored for just this reason. So use those resources, it will go futher than money..

[CleanNeon98]

I think we have enough problems of our own that we need to focus on them, then again Imbecile Obama may feel otherwise

[grimm]

i think we should send: food, medical supplies, water, equipment to help remove debris, man power to help move debris etc etc.
I do not think we should send them a check.