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[Girly VR-4]

Originally Posted by CHAOS

lol @ completely avoiding the handling thing.

he's too busy playing tru2blu's personal bitch-boy.

[Vr-4-Life]

the last 5 posts wernt even about handling. seriously man... drive a vr4.. its not like your driving a sti or a supra... and im not trying to put down my own car.. i love vr4s but they do not corner well at all.. they are about 4k lbs and the aws is a big distraction while cornering.

[Vr-4-Life]

Originally Posted by Girly VR-4

he's too busy playing tru2blu's personal bitch-boy.

he never once asked me to stand up for him... i did it because i saw how bad your shop ****ed him over... just like every other customer... your too busy playing bonnie and clyde while hans screws people over... seriously.. what do u do all day besides sit online.. get a job.

[CHAOS]

Originally Posted by Vr-4-Life

the last 5 posts wernt even about handling. seriously man... drive a vr4.. its not like your driving a sti or a supra... and im not trying to put down my own car.. i love vr4s but they do not corner well at all.. they are about 4k lbs and the aws is a big distraction while cornering.

ive driven several vr-4s actually.. i was in the market for one.. i think they are great cars aside from the breaking every 5 minutes thing... i thought they were heavy but stuck to the road well and that inspires confidence which generally enables one to push a car harder. ive never had a little civic inspire me with confidence.. ever.

sti's weigh about 3500 lbs... yet when set up properly.. can out drive just about anything on the course ... (dylan shut up i already know you are going to bring up insane cars).. same thing goes for evo's.

its all about the set up and the driver. without those 2 things, you have nothing.

have you ever thought maybe your opinion is incorrect because you dont know how to drive the car properly?

[Girly VR-4]

Originally Posted by Vr-4-Life

he never once asked me to stand up for him... i did it because i saw how bad your shop ****ed him over... just like every other customer... your too busy playing bonnie and clyde while hans screws people over... seriously.. what do u do all day besides sit online.. get a job.

you saw how bad he ****ed up the car since he took it home. Yea, it had some issues we weren't aware of prior to him picking it up, but we came to an agreement with him. It is none of your business to push the issue every chance you get. It's HIS deal, not yours. It's not your place to harass me about it.

[ozthunder]

lol I was going to list a slew, but meh.

[Vr-4-Life]

ok... everyone seems to be on the point that im talking about a vr4 with a built suspension. and im not...

i have driven both of my cars to their limits and i know what both of mine can do.. have i driven a vr4 with a built suspension... frankly no.. but then again i havent even started putting money into my vr4..

dude take a vr4 auto Xing. they are big and not as responsive as a smaller car.. stop turning this into an issue about the driver..

and they do not break evey 5 minutes.. i have owned mine for 3 years and never had any problem that i couldnt fix myself. they are just bearing spinners

[CHAOS]

just because its not light and overly responsive doesnt mean it wont eat a civic alive... if you are talking about a vr-4 with stock suspension, why not compare it to a civic with stock suspension.. thats only fair.

in which case.. the vr-4 would win. again.

now dont get me wrong.. there are some super quick hondas on the auto-x course, but for the sake of this thread we will leave them out.

[Vr-4-Life]

Originally Posted by CHAOS

just because its not light and overly responsive doesnt mean it wont eat a civic alive... if you are talking about a vr-4 with stock suspension, why not compare it to a civic with stock suspension.. thats only fair.

in which case.. the vr-4 would win. again.

now dont get me wrong.. there are some super quick hondas on the auto-x course, but for the sake of this thread we will leave them out.

because this arguement got started when i compared my sol...

Full suspension.

to my vr4

stock suspension

i feel theres a miss communication here..

[CHAOS]

thats a ridiculous argument. you cant possibly compare a car with built suspension against a car with "full suspension" and come out with a logical agreement.

[ozthunder]

lol@comparing apples to oranges. Oh how the old adages prove prevalent.

[omgjacki]

Your windshield is disgusting.

[eurotrashed]

GTR weighs roughly the same as the entire state of Rhode Island and it still corners. Handling isn't necessarily a weight issue. Its how you handle and manage that weight

[ozthunder]

It also has a midget voodoo woman in the trunk helping it out...

[russiankid]

Originally Posted by eurotrashed

GTR weighs roughly the same as the entire state of Rhode Island and it still corners. Handling isn't necessarily a weight issue. Its how you handle and manage that weight

I agree. My BMW weights 4300lbs, and it handles WAY better than my Honda. Both have stock suspension.

[eurotrashed]

Originally Posted by russiankid

I agree. My BMW weights 4300lbs, and it handles WAY better than my Honda. Both have stock suspension.

Thats because RWD>FWD. lol

[omgjacki]

Originally Posted by eurotrashed

RWD>FWD.

Truth

[russiankid]

Originally Posted by eurotrashed

Thats because RWD>FWD. lol

True. Its my first RWD so I never had the experience. The BMW has a wider stance and wider tires( Honda 185, BMW 225), which also helps out. My Honda is a 5-speed, BMW is auto.

[ozthunder]

Auto? Bah.

[CHAOS]

the rwd>fwd argument is moot.