Might be going Saab soon

[redwrxwagon02]

Originally Posted by Raven18940

I know the launch is part of the race, and I can launch my car very well as I've driven it for 2 years now. If upped my power I'd just get a beefier clutch and go from 2nd.

As for what a saab can handle, the 9-5 aero can handle 300 bhp (the pistons are weaker than the old 9000) on bone stock internals, the pistons being the weak point as they're not forged. Swap them for forged pistons and the stock rods will take you to around 450 - 500 bhp. From there it's forged rods and the engine can take whatever you can throw at it, stiffer springs and mechanical lifters if you wanna spin it to 8-9K.

The older 9000 (B234) can handle 400 hp bone stock with 200K on it. We're tuning my friend's 9Kwith 190K on it up to 300hp real soon.

http://93ssr.com/engine/
This one is producing 850 whp.

Oh and Maptun is a saab tuning company, they did the tune, not built the engine. It was probably pistons, maybe rods, injectors, bigger fuel pump, and cams off a 9000.

i have heard of maptun but when the description of engine and powertrain mods lists all maptun stage 7 parts that makes me think fully forged internals if you want to get a 2.5 to make 600 + its better internals, cams and turbo and injectors and other obvious supporting mods that guy is pushing 500 whp on a fully built motor whereas a stock 2.5 can do almost the same with stock internals

[Raven18940]

Originally Posted by redwrxwagon02

i have heard of maptun but when the description of engine and powertrain mods lists all maptun stage 7 parts that makes me think fully forged internals if you want to get a 2.5 to make 600 + its better internals, cams and turbo and injectors and other obvious supporting mods that guy is pushing 500 whp on a fully built motor whereas a stock 2.5 can do almost the same with stock internals

Aside from the pistons, saabs do have forged internals, the older 9000 had all forged internals.

There is a guy who's running 450 hp on the standard B205 internals, but he's specifically pushing it to see how far it will go.

Saabs used to be built a bit tougher, but the latest generation are low friction and light weight internals to the extreme. It's all a moot point though as they're killing off the engine in the next couple years and replacing it with the a turbocharged version of the global GM V6, which was developed by saab and is supposed to have even more potential.

[Buster]

for the record, 400 whp is alot more than 450 bhp. espcially if its 400 AWHP to 450 in a FWD BHP.

[redwrxwagon02]

once again subaru ftmfw!

[Raven18940]

Originally Posted by redwrxwagon02

once again subaru ftmfw!

Based on the set of rules you made up, sure.

[Jssaab]

The guy who did my tune is the one who has been running 389WHP on a 250K mile 2.0 engine with all orignial stock internals and he beats on it like mad. He did not blow a piston till he hit it with a 125 shot of NOS at it made 500-525 BHP on the dyno. Yes Subarus are nice but not a Luxury ride....

http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/bb/perfor...tml?bID=116798