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18psiWhiteMS3 · 10-25-2009, 06:31 PM

i bought a used ATP gt3076 with about 8000 miles on it for my mazdaspeed3 and i know it had been sitting for 3 months. it had no signs of any leaks when it was taken off and i had a shop that deals with turbos on a regular basis look at it and they said it looked fine. anyway when i was home and the turbo off the car i plugged the oil feed hole and filled the turbo with oil on the drain side to let the bearing soak in oil for 15 minutes just because i felt like it because it had been sitting. anyway i had the turbo laying on the compressor outlet so it was at a slight downward angle. anyway today(2 days later) i noticed oil had started running down the compressor outlet on the turbo. is this normal for oil to seep thought when its not on the car with no oil pressure?? or did i buy a NO good turbo

97TurboDSM · 10-25-2009, 06:38 PM

wrong section chiefton.

**Got Insulin?** · 10-25-2009, 07:09 PM

Sounds like your seals might be toast, just get it rebuilt and you'll be straight. On a side-note, you didn't really need to "fill" it like that. When you put a turbo on a car, new or used, generally it's recomened to crank the engine for a minute, in ten second "on" ten second "off" periods to do the same thing you were more or less trying to do.

18psiWhiteMS3 · 10-25-2009, 08:35 PM

so u dont think oil pressure will seal it?? the turbo has 4000 miles on it and it had 0 sign of ever leaking when it was uninstalled from my friends car. it only leaked when i let it sit filled.
i just am in denial that its bad. how much will it cost to sent to atp to rebuild if thats the case??

inteva6184 · 10-25-2009, 08:50 PM

I would think it is fine. Oil is not really meant to sit in the cartridge and the turbo is not meant to sit on its side like that. I would think its fine but theres only one way to find out for sure install it already.

18psiWhiteMS3 · 10-25-2009, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inteva6184

I would think it is fine. Oil is not really meant to sit in the cartridge and the turbo is not meant to sit on its side like that. I would think its fine but theres only one way to find out for sure install it already.

i kinda think u are right tho cause it was filled upside down and sat upside down. it was not meant for that. i hope atp tells me its fine. ill be pissed if i have to rebuild it

**Got Insulin?** · 10-25-2009, 08:51 PM

Seeing as I'm not ATP, I'd give them a call and see if they can give you an estimate. If not, I think it's Blouche that rebuilds turbos around here, too. Rebuilds can be all over the spectrum, though. My basically totalled FP Green 20G was a $780 rebuild, that's with everything but the housings replaced, about half the price of the turbo new, but like I said, give ATP a call. You'll probably have to send it out to them, but much better safe than sorry.

18psiWhiteMS3 · 10-25-2009, 08:57 PM

i need to call atp and ask about the leak tomorrow. im just very impatient and wanted to know now but i dont think im going to know for sure till i call them

18psiWhiteMS3 · 10-27-2009, 08:42 PM

ok guys this is the email that ATP sent me, now all you know...
Hi Brian,
You'll be relieved to know that the leak described is exactly what the turbo is supposed to in the test described.
The seals don't work until they are in the car, shaft parallel to the ground and is rotating.
Hope that helps.
Thanks!

97TurboDSM · 10-27-2009, 09:45 PM

install time.

Kill-Bill · 10-28-2009, 09:28 PM

yep...will be just fine.

10-25-2009, 06:31 PM	#1
18psiWhiteMS3 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2007 Member #5415 My Ride: 2007 ZX-10R, 1995 Civic DX iTrader: (0)	Turbo experts please chime in. i bought a used ATP gt3076 with about 8000 miles on it for my mazdaspeed3 and i know it had been sitting for 3 months. it had no signs of any leaks when it was taken off and i had a shop that deals with turbos on a regular basis look at it and they said it looked fine. anyway when i was home and the turbo off the car i plugged the oil feed hole and filled the turbo with oil on the drain side to let the bearing soak in oil for 15 minutes just because i felt like it because it had been sitting. anyway i had the turbo laying on the compressor outlet so it was at a slight downward angle. anyway today(2 days later) i noticed oil had started running down the compressor outlet on the turbo. is this normal for oil to seep thought when its not on the car with no oil pressure?? or did i buy a NO good turbo

10-25-2009, 06:38 PM	#2
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10-25-2009, 07:09 PM	#3
Got Insulin? Hard Snarker Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philly Member #7591 My Ride: 01 Audi TT 225, GVR-4 #72/1000, 91 TSi AWD iTrader: (16)	Sounds like your seals might be toast, just get it rebuilt and you'll be straight. On a side-note, you didn't really need to "fill" it like that. When you put a turbo on a car, new or used, generally it's recomened to crank the engine for a minute, in ten second "on" ten second "off" periods to do the same thing you were more or less trying to do. __________________ -Taylor DenOfDebauchery

10-25-2009, 08:50 PM	#5
inteva6184 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: To far from japan Member #14151 My Ride: I am a ricer iTrader: (0)	I would think it is fine. Oil is not really meant to sit in the cartridge and the turbo is not meant to sit on its side like that. I would think its fine but theres only one way to find out for sure install it already. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-25-2009, 08:51 PM	#7
Got Insulin? Hard Snarker Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philly Member #7591 My Ride: 01 Audi TT 225, GVR-4 #72/1000, 91 TSi AWD iTrader: (16)	Seeing as I'm not ATP, I'd give them a call and see if they can give you an estimate. If not, I think it's Blouche that rebuilds turbos around here, too. Rebuilds can be all over the spectrum, though. My basically totalled FP Green 20G was a $780 rebuild, that's with everything but the housings replaced, about half the price of the turbo new, but like I said, give ATP a call. You'll probably have to send it out to them, but much better safe than sorry. __________________ -Taylor DenOfDebauchery

10-25-2009, 08:35 PM	#4
18psiWhiteMS3 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2007 Member #5415 My Ride: 2007 ZX-10R, 1995 Civic DX iTrader: (0)	so u dont think oil pressure will seal it?? the turbo has 4000 miles on it and it had 0 sign of ever leaking when it was uninstalled from my friends car. it only leaked when i let it sit filled. i just am in denial that its bad. how much will it cost to sent to atp to rebuild if thats the case??

10-25-2009, 08:57 PM	#8
18psiWhiteMS3 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2007 Member #5415 My Ride: 2007 ZX-10R, 1995 Civic DX iTrader: (0)	i need to call atp and ask about the leak tomorrow. im just very impatient and wanted to know now but i dont think im going to know for sure till i call them

10-27-2009, 08:42 PM	#9
18psiWhiteMS3 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2007 Member #5415 My Ride: 2007 ZX-10R, 1995 Civic DX iTrader: (0)	ok guys this is the email that ATP sent me, now all you know... Hi Brian, You'll be relieved to know that the leak described is exactly what the turbo is supposed to in the test described. The seals don't work until they are in the car, shaft parallel to the ground and is rotating. Hope that helps. Thanks!

10-27-2009, 09:45 PM	#10
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10-28-2009, 09:28 PM	#11
Kill-Bill Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #944 iTrader: (1)	yep...will be just fine. __________________ "Good,Bad,I'm the guy with the Gun"-Ash To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. TST#00944

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