Canon one-upped Nikon with the official 5D MkII

[b0rN Fr0m JeTs]

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos5dm2/v

[97TurboDSM]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, do want. whats the price tag on that bad boy

[b0rN Fr0m JeTs]

2699 for the body
here's a side-by-side comparison with the D700.

http://www.stanford.edu/~ahazeghi/pics/5dIIvsD700.jpg

[97TurboDSM]

damn that D700 is nasty. some give and take items that make them fairly similar but that d700 has some really nasty features

[TROLL]

I dont see many places the D700 comes out on top... man my D300 is so ghetto now.

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by TROLL

I dont see many places the D700 comes out on top... man my D300 is so ghetto now.

Your D300 is ghetto? Sh*t, I guess that makes my D200 super ghetto. And makes my D50 Super Duper Ghetto.

[97TurboDSM]

30D Ghettoness is where its at.

[TROLL]

yeah i wasnt totally serious... i try not to get too caught up with the gear and instead focus more on the guy pressing the shutter.

[jspek]

yea i was just reading about it on ken rockwell
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5d-mk-ii.htm

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by TROLL

yeah i wasnt totally serious... i try not to get too caught up with the gear and instead focus more on the guy pressing the shutter.

I know I just tried to make a funny... didn't work to well.

[cszakolczai]

looks like a really great camera... it must be nice to be Ken Rockwell and drop the 2700 bucks like its nothing. We'll wait to see what Nikon comes up with... if anything.

[howielong]

Originally Posted by TROLL

I dont see many places the D700 comes out on top... man my D300 is so ghetto now.

Damn when did you get a D300. I love my D300 and probably will not replace it for a long time to come.

The 5DMKII sounds like a nice camera but why does Canon only use 9 AF points. Maybe I'm biased but that would deter me a little bit about buying a Canon. Not saying I wouldn't buy one but, you'd think there would be more AF points to pick from.

[TROLL]

I've had a D200 for a long time and I bought a D300 about a year ago as well... needed a 2 body system just so I had a backup on important jobs. I wish I had 2 matching bodies though so depending on where prices go I may look to switch up the D200 for a used D300 if the cost difference isnt too painful. Or... what are these D90s all about? Hmm, interesting...

[b0rN Fr0m JeTs]

i'd just like to say i'm glad to see you nikon guys aren't bashing it and giving it the respect it definitely deserves. I wish i had some time or money for this camera

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by b0rN Fr0m JeTs

i'd just like to say i'm glad to see you nikon guys aren't bashing it and giving it the respect it definitely deserves. I wish i had some time or money for this camera

We are all camera guys in the end, I just see that as being a lot of money. Thats a sweet camera but I just can't afford it and I'm not leaving Nikon.

[cszakolczai]

Originally Posted by TROLL

I've had a D200 for a long time and I bought a D300 about a year ago as well... needed a 2 body system just so I had a backup on important jobs. I wish I had 2 matching bodies though so depending on where prices go I may look to switch up the D200 for a used D300 if the cost difference isnt too painful. Or... what are these D90s all about? Hmm, interesting...

Ha, that reminds me of something I should have taken a picture of but totally forgot to.

I was talking to a photographer who worked for a company (can't remember the name) but instead of 2 D300's or something, he had 2 D3's with 24-70 lenses on each of the camera's, funny part was how he just slung them over his shoulder and didn't think much of it. I totaled up the price of all his stuff and not including any accesories, I think he totaled around 13 grand.

[i like rice]

Originally Posted by howielong

The 5DMKII sounds like a nice camera but why does Canon only use 9 AF points. Maybe I'm biased but that would deter me a little bit about buying a Canon. Not saying I wouldn't buy one but, you'd think there would be more AF points to pick from.

There's more to an autofocus system then just the number of AF points. The algorithms and software coding is more important. Those who use full frame body aren't going to require the 60 gazillion AF points because the subjects they shoot are generally static or slow moving. Canon has their line up built around their target market (1D MKIII, 1Ds MKIII, 5D MKII, 50D, 450D, etc). There's no need to increase the market price of a 5D MKII by adding a more advanced/ more expensive AF system in a body that wouldn't fully utilize the system. Plus, they don't want to pack too many features and pull market share from their own product line.

Originally Posted by cszakolczai

he had 2 D3's with 24-70 lenses on each of the camera's, funny part was how he just slung them over his shoulder and didn't think much of it.

Most PJ or sports photographers beat the crap out of their gear. It doesn't really matter since it's just visual and doesn't affect the functionality and reliability of the camera. The bodies can take the beating.

[TurboV]

Originally Posted by cszakolczai

Your D300 is ghetto? Sh*t, I guess that makes my D200 super ghetto. And makes my D50 Super Duper Ghetto.

But Chris, your D50 is super duper ghetto :P *Remembers when I use to taunt you with my D70* Don't worry, I'll be super ghetto with you... until the D300 is handed down to me once the D700 is out. Then the taunting begins again :P

Anyways, props to Canon. I've always seen it as a endless one upping of each by Canon and Nikon, and I sure Nikon will one up Canon, and then Canon will do it again, and yadda yadda.

[jspek]

hey noob the d700 has been out. damn son where you been at? lol jk

but yea technology is nice and all, but if you dont know how to use your camera, you suck. ive seen countless people with d300's, d3's, 5d's etc that take craptastic pics. one of the reasons i have taken so long to upgrade. i just hope nikon doesnt get caught up in the megapixel war. although i would like to see the "d3x" be a high mp. its bound to happen.

[sisforsurfing]

They are on the same price point and both full frame, but do different things better than one another. I am COMPLETELY brand unbiased and would have a hard time choosing between the two for what I shoot. I still think I would prefer the Nikon since the extra MP are dead weight (21 MP? are people printing at like 4 feet wide?), it has a higher frame rate and an arguably better AF system. Arguably!!

That said, it really looks great and is spec'd just as expected. Who knows, I might end up with one in a year or two. All I know is that while I love my D300 to death, a full frame camera would be really, really nice for ISO's over 800 (and the giant viewfinder). Wondering how the Canon will do with noise.

edit: Actually, the more I look at it, the more I'm sold on the Nikon. The Canon looks like a 5DMkI with the 1Ds sensor stuck in, more of a facelift than total upgrade. Sure, it's an awesome sensor, but the rest of the package is lacking to me. Only 0.9 fps more and the same AF system as the 3 year old camera, and instead egregious pixels and a video mode? I'd be almost as happy with the Mark I. I'm sure the IQ will be phenomenal, though.