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OBEEWON · 12-18-2008, 10:24 AM

New rules are out.

The most note worthy in my opinion.

Ban on tire warmers
Three race engines. 4 for testing and 8 per season. 20 per team
No internal retuning.
Possible reduction in race distance.

Aparently these changes are going to reduce racing costs exponentially. I just wish I knew the specs on the new engines. I know they rev to 18 grand.

Oh yeah and these engines will remain unchanged till 2012.

twastheglow · 12-18-2008, 10:37 AM

Since I don't follow Formula 1, are these changes good, bad, neither?

twastheglow · 12-18-2008, 10:37 AM

^ Or I should ask, what's your opinion on them?

sisforsurfing · 12-18-2008, 11:12 AM

Yeah, I was wondering if someone would post about this. Rev to 18k instead of 19k, less wind tunnel use, basically it's going to theoretically take less resources to run a team, keeping costs down.

Small write-up here... http://www.topgear.com/us/blog/more/new-breed/
And from the FIA... http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...sc_121208.aspx

All I know is that the new cars are UGLY. (http://www.topgear.com/us/blog/more/...1-starts-here/) But if the racing is close and that we have a race or two in 2009 as entertaining as Brazil was in this year I don't care. Only three months 'till Australia!

OBEEWON · 12-18-2008, 11:54 AM

It looks like everything is aimed at cheaper cost. They estimate up to 50% reduction.

Some changes are questionable like the ban on tire warmers. I dont get that. Also the 3 race engine is going to be very wierd unless they balance performance with longevity.

Im happy about the slicks. The wing changes...dunno. I like that they are looking into making the distance shorter, but I wish there was a larger field. I think alot of races will end with 4-6 DNF's.

There did seem to be an enormouse ammount of waste in F1, and this seems aimed at reeling that in.

OBEEWON · 12-18-2008, 11:55 AM

I cant find the specs on the engines. Are they still 2.8?

OBEEWON · 12-18-2008, 12:08 PM

I think its a V10. Yumm I love Cosworth.

Theres gonna be so many wrecks................

....

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sisforsurfing · 12-18-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Theres gonna be so many wrecks................

Hah, might be! But look at that little chode wing! So goofy. I always tell myself not to care about aesthetics but it's part of the fun when watching F1.

I'm also intrigued by the shorter races, could make things more interesting. The ban on tire warmers is weird and I don't understand the logic behind it, but who knows. I think they're still gonna be 2.4l, no mention in the press release.

smelly240 · 12-18-2008, 12:24 PM

If its the same engine size as before they're all 2.4l v8

OBEEWON · 12-18-2008, 12:34 PM

I saw mention of a Cosworth V10. Not official though. If it is a V10 then I can accept the 18,000 rpm.

smelly240 · 12-18-2008, 01:00 PM

lol - you'd accept anything as long as they told you it while they wore lingere(sp?)

Nors · 12-18-2008, 01:07 PM

They are banning in-season testing as well. Not sure if that was mentioned. The KERS systems seem like they won't be ready for Australia, so I am curious what will happen with that.

agoodall · 12-18-2008, 01:35 PM

these changes and the changes made last year for this past season IMO are pretty awesome makes for better racing every change has put more control in the drivers hands as well as test there abilities behind the wheel. Maybe Super Aguri-Honda will be able to win more then a few sporadic races

twastheglow · 12-18-2008, 02:32 PM

This thread actually makes me want to watch it this season and see what it's all about.

OBEEWON · 12-18-2008, 03:08 PM

If its anything like this past season you won't be dissappointed. I need to stop slacking on MotoGP. I missed a good season. Caught like 4 races. But F1 is the G.O.A.T.

twastheglow · 12-18-2008, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

If its anything like this past season you won't be dissappointed. I need to stop slacking on MotoGP. I missed a good season. Caught like 4 races. But F1 is the G.O.A.T.

Is there a televised schedule anywhere?

Nors · 12-18-2008, 03:13 PM

I think Speed already replayed all MotoGP races once already. They should start airing DTM and V8 super cars which can hold me over until March.

Edit: Misread your question, you can get the schedule on wikipedia but timezones need to be adjusted and Speed may not air them live.

CHR!S · 12-18-2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agoodall

these changes and the changes made last year for this past season IMO are pretty awesome makes for better racing every change has put more control in the drivers hands as well as test there abilities behind the wheel. Maybe Super Aguri-Honda will be able to win more then a few sporadic races

honda pulled out of formula1 all together though, so i dont think anyone is going to be allowed to run the old technology. i still think its unbelievable that theyre running 2.4L v8's with 700ish hp

twastheglow · 12-18-2008, 03:22 PM

^ Wow.

TurboTagTeam · 12-18-2008, 03:36 PM

How old are those pics of the cylinder heads? I know everyone uses plunged cut heads now. I saw a few pics of cosworth's V8 indy car heads. They're ****ing unbeleivable.

And fogger fuel injectors are insane. Anyone ever seen the dyno vid of the F1 ferrari motor? Nuckin Futs!!!

12-18-2008, 10:24 AM	#1
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	New Formula 1 rules. New rules are out. The most note worthy in my opinion. Ban on tire warmers Three race engines. 4 for testing and 8 per season. 20 per team No internal retuning. Possible reduction in race distance. Aparently these changes are going to reduce racing costs exponentially. I just wish I knew the specs on the new engines. I know they rev to 18 grand. Oh yeah and these engines will remain unchanged till 2012. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

12-18-2008, 11:12 AM	#4
sisforsurfing Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Member #267 My Ride: 2003 WRX wagon iTrader: (2)	Yeah, I was wondering if someone would post about this. Rev to 18k instead of 19k, less wind tunnel use, basically it's going to theoretically take less resources to run a team, keeping costs down. Small write-up here... http://www.topgear.com/us/blog/more/new-breed/ And from the FIA... http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...sc_121208.aspx All I know is that the new cars are UGLY. (http://www.topgear.com/us/blog/more/...1-starts-here/) But if the racing is close and that we have a race or two in 2009 as entertaining as Brazil was in this year I don't care. Only three months 'till Australia! __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

12-18-2008, 11:54 AM	#5
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	It looks like everything is aimed at cheaper cost. They estimate up to 50% reduction. Some changes are questionable like the ban on tire warmers. I dont get that. Also the 3 race engine is going to be very wierd unless they balance performance with longevity. Im happy about the slicks. The wing changes...dunno. I like that they are looking into making the distance shorter, but I wish there was a larger field. I think alot of races will end with 4-6 DNF's. There did seem to be an enormouse ammount of waste in F1, and this seems aimed at reeling that in. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

12-18-2008, 11:55 AM	#6
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	I cant find the specs on the engines. Are they still 2.8? __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

12-18-2008, 12:08 PM	#7
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	I think its a V10. Yumm I love Cosworth. Theres gonna be so many wrecks................ .... .. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

12-18-2008, 12:24 PM	#9
smelly240 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: near the big fancy mall Member #2072 My Ride: 1990 Nissan 240 iTrader: (1)	If its the same engine size as before they're all 2.4l v8 __________________ PSIPROformance.com

12-18-2008, 12:34 PM	#10
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	I saw mention of a Cosworth V10. Not official though. If it is a V10 then I can accept the 18,000 rpm. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

12-18-2008, 01:00 PM	#11
smelly240 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: near the big fancy mall Member #2072 My Ride: 1990 Nissan 240 iTrader: (1)	lol - you'd accept anything as long as they told you it while they wore lingere(sp?) __________________ PSIPROformance.com

12-18-2008, 01:07 PM	#12
Nors Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DelCo, PA Member #2210 My Ride: 2011 VW GTI iTrader: (1)	They are banning in-season testing as well. Not sure if that was mentioned. The KERS systems seem like they won't be ready for Australia, so I am curious what will happen with that. __________________ DUB JAWN Hi Hater™ Previous: 2002 Volkswagen GTi - Sold \|1995 Honda Accord - Sold \| 1993 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD Project - Sold \| 1996 Acura Integra RS - Sold

12-18-2008, 03:08 PM	#15
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	If its anything like this past season you won't be dissappointed. I need to stop slacking on MotoGP. I missed a good season. Caught like 4 races. But F1 is the G.O.A.T. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

12-18-2008, 03:13 PM	#17
Nors Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DelCo, PA Member #2210 My Ride: 2011 VW GTI iTrader: (1)	I think Speed already replayed all MotoGP races once already. They should start airing DTM and V8 super cars which can hold me over until March. Edit: Misread your question, you can get the schedule on wikipedia but timezones need to be adjusted and Speed may not air them live. __________________ DUB JAWN Hi Hater™ Previous: 2002 Volkswagen GTi - Sold \|1995 Honda Accord - Sold \| 1993 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD Project - Sold \| 1996 Acura Integra RS - Sold Last edited by Nors; 12-18-2008 at 03:17 PM.

12-18-2008, 03:36 PM	#20
TurboTagTeam Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cell Block F Member #275 My Ride: constantly changes iTrader: (2)	How old are those pics of the cylinder heads? I know everyone uses plunged cut heads now. I saw a few pics of cosworth's V8 indy car heads. They're ****ing unbeleivable. And fogger fuel injectors are insane. Anyone ever seen the dyno vid of the F1 ferrari motor? Nuckin Futs!!!

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