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jbell · 08-26-2009, 10:14 PM

i always liked seeing build up threads, step-by-step welding job threads, bodywork... etc.

I don't really do any of them, but I do wrap vinyl.

(I just signed up to be a vendor here, seeing how I'm local and all...)

So here are some pics of the last few weekends:

fav605 · 08-26-2009, 10:45 PM

Sweet. I do this as well. Except I use real cf. This stuff is a great alternative. Props to you, I hateee laying vinyl.

jbell · 08-26-2009, 10:47 PM

No, no, no. props to YOU.
working with real carbon and resin is such a PITA.

we should experiment clearing this like you would normal carbon....

fav605 · 08-26-2009, 10:49 PM

Not when you use a vacuum setup

and learned the ins and outs after wasting hundreds of dollars in materials.

I may be sending a few customers your way to wrap some interior pieces.

jbell · 08-26-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fav605

I may be sending a few customers your way to wrap some interior pieces.

Likewise. There is stuff i simply can not do, or looks that i can not achieve with this stuff.

fav605 · 08-26-2009, 11:01 PM

pm'd

evomike · 08-26-2009, 11:08 PM

I don't like it you can tell it's vinyl, it's kind of like rotas. And the weave looks like it distorts when you streatch, but hey it's a cheap alternative I can't even tell you what I'd charge people to make them from real carbon.

94integra · 08-26-2009, 11:09 PM

Looks good. How expensive is the vinyl?

cmr076 · 08-26-2009, 11:28 PM

what would it cost to wrap my entire mini cooper in CF vynal?

Eclipse GSX 61 · 08-26-2009, 11:41 PM

I say you guys use this on something simple like an armrest and try to clear it. I'm really interested in the whole clearing process because if it works that just made this stuff that much better. I may do some small pieces if the clearing turns out good.

evomike · 08-26-2009, 11:45 PM

You could never clear this, the material would just suck it up it wouldn't work that's why it's dry carbon look. If you cleared it even if you got the result you wanted(wouldn't happen) it would flake right off.

boske · 08-26-2009, 11:56 PM

So you can't order it with a gloss finish? I don't see why they couldn't make it, theres a lot of vinyl you can get.

downsmustang · 08-27-2009, 12:22 AM

How crazy can you get wrapping interiors? I'd like to see some pics of that. I have to find some black interior pieces for my car and I might be interested in wrapping some of it if I can.

jbell · 08-27-2009, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evomike

You could never clear this, the material would just suck it up it wouldn't work that's why it's dry carbon look. If you cleared it even if you got the result you wanted(wouldn't happen) it would flake right off.

This is completely wrong and untrue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by boske

So you can't order it with a gloss finish? I don't see why they couldn't make it, theres a lot of vinyl you can get.

They don't make the di-noc with a clear.
so as of now, there is no quality carbon vinyl out there ;) (imo)

Quote:

Originally Posted by downsmustang

How crazy can you get wrapping interiors? I'd like to see some pics of that. I have to find some black interior pieces for my car and I might be interested in wrapping some of it if I can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Odw8ZQD0gHk

imagine this with the dry carbon.

artsyFA5 · 08-27-2009, 12:53 AM

i love it

boostedfury · 08-27-2009, 01:22 AM

i like it alot...nice work....just wish you could clear it somehow for the exterior

disturbedfan121 · 08-27-2009, 01:38 AM

we're going to experiment on my headlight covers one of these days

evomike · 08-27-2009, 01:45 AM

Well when you start clearing vinyl with a quality automotive grade clear let me know, there is no proper way to prep vinyl to clear it. I am in no way bashing 3m products or what you do it just won't work an last. It sucks even to clear dry carbon/graphite thy absorb alot of the clear it's weird. I have been painting a long time and wouldn't clearnor recommend clearing vinyl. I'd just use it to look like dry carbon, clearing it will only lead to problems.

jbell · 08-27-2009, 01:52 AM

The vinyl won't absorb anything, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to use an "automotive grade" clear on it.
A layer of resin, then clear- like normal carbon fiber would most likely turn out much better.

i do have some other ideas on the back burner that may work though.

evomike · 08-27-2009, 01:59 AM

When absorbing I ment the cf cloth, I'm really not sure if resin would work. If you don't use quality stuff however I doubt it will hold up to weather and road debris. I think using resin could get a bit messy and appear uneven.

08-26-2009, 10:14 PM	#1
jbell Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: freehold, nj Member #14431 My Ride: 04 MCS iTrader: (0)	carbon fiber wrap jobs. i always liked seeing build up threads, step-by-step welding job threads, bodywork... etc. I don't really do any of them, but I do wrap vinyl. (I just signed up to be a vendor here, seeing how I'm local and all...) So here are some pics of the last few weekends: __________________ 94 del sol - first real project, 14.3 on stock b16, sold. 05 s2000 - hardtopped, supercharged for a week, sold. 04 mini s - $3000 maintenance? $175 thermostat? FML, sold. 00 miata - for sale. <60k miles. hardtopped. 00 CLK - 2J swap, because racecar.

08-26-2009, 10:47 PM	#3
jbell Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: freehold, nj Member #14431 My Ride: 04 MCS iTrader: (0)	No, no, no. props to YOU. working with real carbon and resin is such a PITA. we should experiment clearing this like you would normal carbon.... __________________ 94 del sol - first real project, 14.3 on stock b16, sold. 05 s2000 - hardtopped, supercharged for a week, sold. 04 mini s - $3000 maintenance? $175 thermostat? FML, sold. 00 miata - for sale. <60k miles. hardtopped. 00 CLK - 2J swap, because racecar.

08-26-2009, 11:28 PM	#9
cmr076 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: blue bell/gwynedd valley, PA Member #2319 My Ride: S4 iTrader: (8)	what would it cost to wrap my entire mini cooper in CF vynal? __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R

08-26-2009, 11:41 PM	#10
Eclipse GSX 61 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Perkasie, PA Member #7996 My Ride: 14' Mercedes C300 iTrader: (2)	I say you guys use this on something simple like an armrest and try to clear it. I'm really interested in the whole clearing process because if it works that just made this stuff that much better. I may do some small pieces if the clearing turns out good. __________________ 97 GSX (sold) 05 SRT 4 ACR (sold) 02 RSX

08-27-2009, 12:53 AM	#15
artsyFA5 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Royersford, PA Member #10278 My Ride: 2012 SWP WRX Limited <3 iTrader: (0)	i love it __________________ ---> 2012 SWP WRX / SPT Cat back / SPT Short Shifter / Cobb SF Intake / Cobb AP Stage 1 <---

08-26-2009, 10:45 PM	#2
fav605 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Member #2445 My Ride: 95 Prelude Si iTrader: (0)	Sweet. I do this as well. Except I use real cf. This stuff is a great alternative. Props to you, I hateee laying vinyl.

08-26-2009, 10:49 PM	#4
fav605 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Member #2445 My Ride: 95 Prelude Si iTrader: (0)	Not when you use a vacuum setup and learned the ins and outs after wasting hundreds of dollars in materials. I may be sending a few customers your way to wrap some interior pieces.

08-26-2009, 11:01 PM	#6
fav605 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Member #2445 My Ride: 95 Prelude Si iTrader: (0)	pm'd

08-26-2009, 11:08 PM	#7
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	I don't like it you can tell it's vinyl, it's kind of like rotas. And the weave looks like it distorts when you streatch, but hey it's a cheap alternative I can't even tell you what I'd charge people to make them from real carbon.

08-26-2009, 11:09 PM	#8
94integra Tri-State Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lancaster,PA Member #7222 My Ride: 93.5 p10 iTrader: (0)	Looks good. How expensive is the vinyl?

08-26-2009, 11:45 PM	#11
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	You could never clear this, the material would just suck it up it wouldn't work that's why it's dry carbon look. If you cleared it even if you got the result you wanted(wouldn't happen) it would flake right off.

08-26-2009, 11:56 PM	#12
boske Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ephrata Member #6700 My Ride: s13 hatch iTrader: (0)	So you can't order it with a gloss finish? I don't see why they couldn't make it, theres a lot of vinyl you can get.

08-27-2009, 12:22 AM	#13
downsmustang Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DELCO, PA Member #2215 My Ride: 2002 Ford Mustang GT iTrader: (0)	How crazy can you get wrapping interiors? I'd like to see some pics of that. I have to find some black interior pieces for my car and I might be interested in wrapping some of it if I can.

08-27-2009, 01:22 AM	#16
boostedfury Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Secane, PA Member #1389 My Ride: 99 Z51 Corvette & 2003 Explorer XLT iTrader: (2)	i like it alot...nice work....just wish you could clear it somehow for the exterior __________________ Dante's 2005 SRT 4 New Best: 13.10 @110.84mph-11/21/09 ATCO Best Trap: 115.07 mph-11/6/09 Cecil To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-27-2009, 01:38 AM	#17
disturbedfan121 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CNJ Member #3604 My Ride: 2010 GG EVO X iTrader: (7)	we're going to experiment on my headlight covers one of these days __________________ '90 Miata - 14psi 250whp 227tq ---Dead and parted To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. '03 MSP-7psi - SOLD.......'93 Sc300 5spd - SOLD '98 BMW Z3 - SOLD.......'92 miata turbo -Traded '10 Evo X- Traded in for .....'14 Jetta TDI 6spd man....... '99 miata NB shell Project....'96 Impreza w/v.1 STi swap

08-27-2009, 01:45 AM	#18
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	Well when you start clearing vinyl with a quality automotive grade clear let me know, there is no proper way to prep vinyl to clear it. I am in no way bashing 3m products or what you do it just won't work an last. It sucks even to clear dry carbon/graphite thy absorb alot of the clear it's weird. I have been painting a long time and wouldn't clearnor recommend clearing vinyl. I'd just use it to look like dry carbon, clearing it will only lead to problems.

08-27-2009, 01:52 AM	#19
jbell Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: freehold, nj Member #14431 My Ride: 04 MCS iTrader: (0)	The vinyl won't absorb anything, but I'm not sure if we'll be able to use an "automotive grade" clear on it. A layer of resin, then clear- like normal carbon fiber would most likely turn out much better. i do have some other ideas on the back burner that may work though. __________________ 94 del sol - first real project, 14.3 on stock b16, sold. 05 s2000 - hardtopped, supercharged for a week, sold. 04 mini s - $3000 maintenance? $175 thermostat? FML, sold. 00 miata - for sale. <60k miles. hardtopped. 00 CLK - 2J swap, because racecar.

08-27-2009, 01:59 AM	#20
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	When absorbing I ment the cf cloth, I'm really not sure if resin would work. If you don't use quality stuff however I doubt it will hold up to weather and road debris. I think using resin could get a bit messy and appear uneven.

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