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outlawzxblizz99 · 11-08-2006, 09:59 AM

Anyone want to help/do my valve and ignition timing? I've never done it before so I want someone that knows what they're doing so I can learn from them instead of taking the chance of f'ing it up myself.

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-08-2006, 12:19 PM

oh yea, im willing to pay

blackvr4 · 11-08-2006, 03:10 PM

what car is it? if ur doing valve timing im guessing the timing belt is facked?

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-08-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackvr4

what car is it? if ur doing valve timing im guessing the timing belt is facked?

it's a 91 talon tsi, i already put on a timing belt but totally forgot to align all the stuff up so it's gonna have to come out.

blackvr4 · 11-08-2006, 11:26 PM

what together right now? timing cover is on? or no? do u have balance shafts on the car? also where do you live? ive done the timing belt like 20times on my GFs 1G talon. cause i had to take the motor apart like 3times. once to rebuild motor, fix a leak in the oil pump, another time to delete balance shafts. and ive done the ignition timing on her car a few times too. that parts pretty easy. are u just doing preventative maintance with the timing belt replacement, or did the timing belt already skip teeth? or snap.

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-09-2006, 06:48 AM

lower timing cover is still on. i still do have the balance shafts on it, i do have the bs belt elim. kit though. im located at mcguire afb, nj.

blackvr4 · 11-09-2006, 06:56 PM

balance shafts are a bitch to take out. and worst part is when the oil pump springs a leak 500miles later

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-14-2006, 07:52 PM

I got the timing all done...went to crank it....*CLICK*...that was it!

flashgordon · 11-14-2006, 08:23 PM

It sounds like you have issues inside the motor. Did the old belt break or jump time? If it did, or you cranked the motor with the cam timing off then there is a very good chance that there are bent valves. Try turning the motor over by hand and if it's locked up you have bigger problems and should find a shop to have them take a look at the motor before any further damage occurs.

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-14-2006, 09:48 PM

the old belt never broke or jump time and i made sure i lined up my pulleys and cams correctly per Haynes manual. could it be just the starter or maybe a bad ground or dead battery?

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-14-2006, 09:48 PM

everytime i try to start it, it just makes that clicking sound. i even tried to jump it.

gsrboi80 · 11-14-2006, 10:03 PM

Could just be a bad ground, or you could have fried the starter relay. Get your volt meter out and measure the battery voltage

SpendOne · 11-15-2006, 01:37 AM

Where are you at?? Ill help you with your timing for a couple bucks.

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-15-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SpendOne

Where are you at?? Ill help you with your timing for a couple bucks.

McGuire AFB, NJ

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-15-2006, 06:39 PM

OK, I just ordered a new grounding kit and starter....along with a few other goodies that has nothing to do with the problem, just thought I would them...anyways, why would the starter just out of nowhere go bad? could they go bad from just laying on the ground for awhile?

RyanG · 11-15-2006, 10:49 PM

dead battery. try a jump

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-16-2006, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AREA1320

dead battery. try a jump

already tried that multiple times

awdlaserbeam · 11-16-2006, 10:50 PM

are you getting spark/fuel/air?

outlawzxblizz99 · 11-16-2006, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by awdlaserbeam

are you getting spark/fuel/air?

all i hear is the starter clicking

95gstnj · 12-18-2006, 09:23 PM

hey, i know you said youve tried jumps multiple times, however ive had the same problem on a 1g before. i tried a jump, and it didnt work. i threw a new battery(well, a known good battery) in it, and it fired right up. give a new battery a try

11-08-2006, 09:59 AM	#1
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	need help with timing Anyone want to help/do my valve and ignition timing? I've never done it before so I want someone that knows what they're doing so I can learn from them instead of taking the chance of f'ing it up myself.

11-15-2006, 01:37 AM	#13
SpendOne Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NE Philly Member #144 My Ride: 1987 Mazda RX7 LQ4 Turbo iTrader: (6)	Where are you at?? Ill help you with your timing for a couple bucks. __________________ 1993 GSX - 10.8@135 Stock motor & Trans - SOLD 1987 Mazda RX7 Single turbo LQ4 - 9.2@150 - SOLD 1980 Ford Fairmont 4Dr LQ4 Turbo AGAIN

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11-08-2006, 12:19 PM	#2
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	oh yea, im willing to pay

11-09-2006, 06:48 AM	#6
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	lower timing cover is still on. i still do have the balance shafts on it, i do have the bs belt elim. kit though. im located at mcguire afb, nj.

11-14-2006, 07:52 PM	#8
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	I got the timing all done...went to crank it....CLICK...that was it!

11-14-2006, 08:23 PM	#9
flashgordon Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Nov 2006 Member #2836 My Ride: '90 Miata iTrader: (0)	It sounds like you have issues inside the motor. Did the old belt break or jump time? If it did, or you cranked the motor with the cam timing off then there is a very good chance that there are bent valves. Try turning the motor over by hand and if it's locked up you have bigger problems and should find a shop to have them take a look at the motor before any further damage occurs.

11-14-2006, 09:48 PM	#10
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	the old belt never broke or jump time and i made sure i lined up my pulleys and cams correctly per Haynes manual. could it be just the starter or maybe a bad ground or dead battery?

11-14-2006, 10:03 PM	#12
gsrboi80 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Member #2795 My Ride: Evolution Baby iTrader: (0)	Could just be a bad ground, or you could have fried the starter relay. Get your volt meter out and measure the battery voltage

11-15-2006, 06:39 PM	#15
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	OK, I just ordered a new grounding kit and starter....along with a few other goodies that has nothing to do with the problem, just thought I would them...anyways, why would the starter just out of nowhere go bad? could they go bad from just laying on the ground for awhile?

11-16-2006, 10:50 PM	#18
awdlaserbeam Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Member #1126 iTrader: (0)	are you getting spark/fuel/air?

12-18-2006, 09:23 PM	#20
95gstnj Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Dec 2006 Member #3199 My Ride: 05 wrx, C5 A6 iTrader: (0)	hey, i know you said youve tried jumps multiple times, however ive had the same problem on a 1g before. i tried a jump, and it didnt work. i threw a new battery(well, a known good battery) in it, and it fired right up. give a new battery a try