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RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 01:40 PM

Who Does Harnesses?
 
Ok, well my factory front seats weigh pretty damn close to 100lbs a pop (12 way power/heated/leather) and I don't like the seating positions they offer (too high, don't recline far at all, hard to see the gauges through the wheel). So, I've been wanting to replace them with some sport lightweight seats. My dilemma? The GMT-800 chassis includes the belt system completely contained into the seats so no seat= no belt and worse no belt mounting points:mad: So I'm wondering if anyone know's any shops the could weld something up for me so I can ask them about a price? I want it to look decent, I'm no stickler for looks but I don't want it to look like garbage either. Would prefer a retractable 3 point setup similar to factory but would settle for a 5 point if it was that much easier/cheaper.


Anyone have any ideas for me? Thanks:)

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 01:43 PM

also, don't wanna spend a fortune on seats and i don't pay for names. if anyone knows some reasonably cheap seats that are comfortable and decently made I would love to more about that as well. also, I weight 230 an im 6ft so if they were a little wider it would be nice. drag truck so side bolsters aren't that important

Got Insulin? 09-27-2010 01:50 PM

Contact Good Vibes or JMFab, both ahould be able to help.

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 01:55 PM

thanks, ill send them links to this thread and ask for their input. good vibes = GVA correct?

Got Insulin? 09-27-2010 02:02 PM

Yup. Good folks at both places, too.

james_ls 09-27-2010 03:32 PM

Please keep in mind that "cheap" and "seats" should never go in the same sentence.

It's a HUGE safety feature, not just somewhere to put your ass.

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by james_ls (Post 1823439)
Please keep in mind that "cheap" and "seats" should never go in the same sentence.

It's a HUGE safety feature, not just somewhere to put your ass.


if you can explain to me how it would be more unsafe then what i have now please do so. keep in mind i drive a 7000lbs tank. the factory seats do nothing for saftey if anything they're more dangerous because they weigh a ton

Got Insulin? 09-27-2010 03:45 PM

They're made so that you don't get thrown into the floorpans of your car should you crash, and designed, along with the rest of the truck's cab, to let you move just enough to stay restrained but seated in the case of a roll where your roof collapsed. The speeds and forces acting on your body during even a "minor" impact are rediculous, and you shouldd definately do your share of research before spending money on a seat.

As with everything else, avoid knock-offs, too.

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Insulin? (Post 1823448)
They're made so that you don't get thrown into the floorpans of your car should you crash, and designed, along with the rest of the truck's cab, to let you move just enough to stay restrained but seated in the case of a roll where your roof collapsed. The speeds and forces acting on your body during even a "minor" impact are rediculous, and you shouldd definately do your share of research before spending money on a seat.

As with everything else, avoid knock-offs, too.

i agree to what you're saying, but whatever i do is a step above factory which is how I look at it. i know you guys are used to cars and well lots of bad things happen to them in a crash and not that it cant happen to me but its going to be MUCH more unlikely in a 3/4 ton truck.

most guys don't change a thing, just throw in a bar when they break 11.40's im taking it further because i like the idea of being lighter then the competition. this she be a solid 120+lbs weight drop

igo4bmx 09-27-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james_ls (Post 1823439)
Please keep in mind that "cheap" and "seats" should never go in the same sentence.

It's a HUGE safety feature, not just somewhere to put your ass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBowTies88 (Post 1823443)
if you can explain to me how it would be more unsafe then what i have now please do so. keep in mind i drive a 7000lbs tank. the factory seats do nothing for saftey if anything they're more dangerous because they weigh a ton

listen to james_ls
i had a set of knockoff sparco seats
the recling mechanism snapped while driving in it and i fell backward while driving 35-45 mph. luckily i didn't lose control of the steering wheel.

as far as seatbelts you could get used seat belt clips and bolt them to the seat frames that bolt to the car.
when i had my seats in my old civic there was a metal tab you can bolt up the stock belt clip to and then use the stock belts.

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 04:01 PM

well, long as the reclining system can hold up up to 60' times in the 1.5's it should be good. i dont really put much of any weight on the back the seat during normal driving...just kinda the way i like to sit. not that I wouldn't be pissed if mine broke. ill make sure ill look over whatever i got closely to make sure the mechanism's are not weak and/or designed by a short half retarded man from india.

Got Insulin? 09-27-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBowTies88 (Post 1823462)
well, long as the reclining system can hold up up to 60' times in the 1.5's it should be good. i dont really put much of any weight on the back the seat during normal driving...just kinda the way i like to sit. not that I wouldn't be pissed if mine broke. ill make sure ill look over whatever i got closely to make sure the mechanism's are not weak and/or designed by a short half retarded man from india.

You will if you have a properly installed harness during an impact, or if you're suddenly accelerating (your butt is against the fold of the seat), or if someone hits you from behind. And your last statement would automatically eliminate most cheap seats.

And likely, James wasn't pissed because they broke. He would have probably been terrified that that could have happened in the case of an impact, or during another situation.

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Insulin? (Post 1823465)
You will if you have a properly installed harness during an impact, or if you're suddenly accelerating (your butt is against the fold of the seat), or if someone hits you from behind. And your last statement would automatically eliminate most cheap seats.

And likely, James wasn't pissed because they broke. He would have probably been terrified that that could have happened in the case of an impact, or during another situation.

yea but the harness and seat will be separate from the seat unlike it is now. that i will BE SURE is safe before i drive in it. i hate getting hit in the face with an airbag as much as the next guy.

and again i see what you're saying in the seat back department in the case of someone rear ending me. but also you guys need to remember this is a big truck. its gonna take the shot and jump forward like most cares, unless i was hit by a mack truck. i was rear ended in my old truck at 30+ (impact speed not before the hit the brakes speed) by a ford tarus and a new bumper and bed and she was good as new. wasn't very violent in the truck at all

igo4bmx 09-27-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBowTies88 (Post 1823471)
yea but the harness and seat will be separate from the seat unlike it is now. that i will BE SURE is safe before i drive in it. i hate getting hit in the face with an airbag as much as the next guy.

and again i see what you're saying in the seat back department in the case of someone rear ending me. but also you guys need to remember this is a big truck. its gonna take the shot and jump forward like most cares, unless i was hit by a mack truck. i was rear ended in my old truck at 30+ (impact speed not before the hit the brakes speed) by a ford tarus and a new bumper and bed and she was good as new. wasn't very violent in the truck at all

i'm not sure how you would test it since i remember being excited and sitting in the seats in my garage while i waited for my rails - i had no issues and it felt solid to me.
then about a week into driving with the seats it broke- I eventually had to stuff boxes between the backseat and the back of the seat to keep it upright until i took it out to put the stock ones back in.


why bother when you can get a single corbeau for like 300 bones?

ambitiousCK 09-27-2010 05:17 PM

Brides ftw hahaha

RedBowTies88 09-27-2010 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by igo4bmx (Post 1823476)
i'm not sure how you would test it since i remember being excited and sitting in the seats in my garage while i waited for my rails - i had no issues and it felt solid to me.
then about a week into driving with the seats it broke- I eventually had to stuff boxes between the backseat and the back of the seat to keep it upright until i took it out to put the stock ones back in.


why bother when you can get a single corbeau for like 300 bones?

I need to do both front ones. I can't stand being unsymetrical. Plus I hate having to pull it out to race all the time. If it was light I wouldn't worry about it

PrideNas 09-27-2010 07:30 PM

Your thread is very confusing.

I assume you are looking for Seatbelt Harness' after reading your post, and not an engine harness.....

Takata makes a good harness.

-Nas

RedBowTies88 09-28-2010 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrideNas (Post 1823574)
Your thread is very confusing.

I assume you are looking for Seatbelt Harness' after reading your post, and not an engine harness.....

Takata makes a good harness.

-Nas

i thought it was fairly straightforward....:bigeek:


not so much the harness im looking for but more an install of harness system into a vehicle that has none at all.


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