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AutobahnRacer 11-23-2010 01:54 PM

How long to get your License to carry concealed weapon
 
How long did it take you, vote than post the actual amount of time?

Thanks

rodder 11-23-2010 02:02 PM

The law allows up to 45 days for the sheriff to approve or deny. Mine took the full 45 days.

AutobahnRacer 11-23-2010 02:05 PM

I did see that. What county are you in?

Xavier 11-23-2010 03:28 PM

Took me about two weeks in Chester County.

rodder 11-23-2010 03:37 PM

Northampton County

WKderF 11-23-2010 03:46 PM

ill try & break down how long mine took:

went to local PD for local background check & waited 5-10 for results which came back clean,

drove 40 min to montgomery county court house with clean local check paperwork,

waited in line about 7 min for my turn,

filled out paperwork, paid, had picture taken,

walked out with License.



In all, The whole process took about a little over an hour.



This was Cheltenham Township in Montgomery County. I realize my experience is not the norm, & that most people have to wait weeks for the local check to be completed. I dont know why or how cheltenham was able to do the check so quickly, but it seemed like just another day at the office for them.

DC2.2GSR 11-23-2010 07:31 PM

There's no option for < 10 minutes. lol. I drove 5 minutes to the police station where the Sheriff was holding a 'remote' LTCF day. I parked my car, walked all the way into the back room where a single guy was sitting reading a book and waiting for people. He did his thing, handed me me LTCF and I was back in my car in 9 minutes.

Aside from "Constitutional Carry" like Vermont, that's the way it should work. In and out... ASAP. PA is a "shall issue" state and all counties must give you a LTCF unless there's a specific reason found that bar you from obtaining the LTCF (like a felony record). The Sheriff can determine whether or not you're eligible alomost immediately with the PICS phone call just as if you were buying a gun. There's absolutely no reason that some counties wait as long as they do or like MontCo, force you to jump through hoops and drive to the local PD and then back to the courthouse and then wait (in most cases)... they just hate guns and gun owners and are doing everything they possibly can to annoy the s*** out of you. The law says 45 days including weekends... 1.5 months... is the limit. They must issue by then.


I'm not really trying to pick on you or anything, but why the new thread for a poll? The only people who carry a firearm on this site are already very active within the 'I like Guns' thread. I think we've almost all responded here already. lol.

OutToWinPAHC 11-23-2010 07:48 PM

22 hours

AutobahnRacer 11-23-2010 08:00 PM

Well mine actually came today, submitted it Last Tuesday and it came today. I am very happy.

1988 Olds 11-23-2010 08:32 PM

Mine too about two weeks and we might as well set you straight now. In PA its a License to Cary Firearm (LTCF) not CCW

AutobahnRacer 11-23-2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1858834)
I'm not really trying to pick on you or anything, but why the new thread for a poll? The only people who carry a firearm on this site are already very active within the 'I like Guns' thread. I think we've almost all responded here already. lol.

Its cool, very valid question. Too much too read, too many sub topics going on, and this sticks out more. Reason I asked because I was curious as to the duration of most people and their counties.






License is for concealed to my understanding. Open carry does not need any license in PA

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By David M. Goldman on May 29, 2008 10:27 AM
To carry a handgun concealed in public, an individual must possess a valid Pennsylvania License to Carry Firearms (LTCF, 18 PA.C.S. 6106) or an equivalent license issued by a state that Pennsylvania honors (See www.attorneygeneral.gov for up to date reciprocity agreements).

An individual may carry a concealed handgun, without a LTCF:

1. in one's home,
2. fixed place of business, and
3. on private property where permission has been given

(18 PA.C.S. 6106).

Moreover, an individual cannot carry a handgun in a vehicle without a valid Pennsylvania LTCF or an equivalent license issued by a state that Pennsylvania honors (18 PA.C.S. 6106). Nevertheless, an individual with a LTCF is NOT required to carry concealed; he/she may carry openly, including in cities of the first class, such as Philadelphia.

Under the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act (UFA), Pennsylvania resident LTCF are issued by the county sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the applicant resides. Nonresidents licenses are issued by select county sheriff offices.

Pennsylvania is a "shall issue" state, meaning that the appropriate sheriff must issue the license, unless the applicant is prohibited.
There are places which are off-limits in Pennsylvania , when concealed carrying. These include:

1. All Federal Facilities (Unless Authorized);
2. All Court Facilities;
3. State Parks (except while in a vehicle);
4. Adult and Juvenile Detention Facilities; and 5. Airport Terminals (secure areas only).


The issue of both open and concealed carry on school property has not been determined. Per 18 PA.C.S. 912, possession of "a weapon in the buildings of, on the grounds of, or in any conveyance providing transportation to or from any elementary or secondary publicly-funded educational institution, any elementary or secondary private school licensed by the Department of Education or any elementary or secondary parochial school" is a misdemeanor of the first degree. However, the statute allows for "a defense that the weapon is possessed and used in conjunction with a lawful supervised school activity or course or is possessed for other lawful purpose."

There is an issue of the Pennsylvania State Police (PSP newsletter regarding CCW on/in schools zones. It gives an example of a PA concealed license permit as being an exception to the federal law; however, there is no definitive answer at this time. You might read page 3 of the PSP newsletter regarding CCW on/in a school zone.PA firearms2006_Dec.pdf

It should be noted that Pennsylvania allows the concealed (with a LTCF) or open carry of a firearm in an establishment that sells or serves alcohol.

OutToWinPAHC 11-23-2010 08:55 PM

Yes... but don't do it in Pittsburg or Philadelphia.... They have superseded code and plenty of case law that will cause you to land your @ss in jail. I wonder how myself, but play it safe.... concealed permit.

Big_Jim 11-23-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OutToWinPAHC (Post 1858843)
22 hours

In Philadelphia County?

OutToWinPAHC 11-23-2010 09:04 PM

Bucks.... However, I used to be a state trooper as well

AutobahnRacer 11-23-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OutToWinPAHC (Post 1858880)
Yes... but don't do it in Pittsburg or Philadelphia.... They have superseded code and plenty of case law that will cause you to land your @ss in jail. I wonder how myself, but play it safe.... concealed permit.

So what happens when you live there and have to renew? I thought you had to go to the county in which you live to apply for new or renewal.

OutToWinPAHC 11-23-2010 09:26 PM

I said don't open carry in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh county without a LTCF. It is legal in every county but those two without a permit. The are considered cities of first class, and require permit.

And I live in Bucks County.

AutobahnRacer 11-23-2010 09:29 PM

Ohhh I knew that, my mistake I thought you were referring to actually getting the license. My apologies.

olletsocmit 11-23-2010 09:56 PM

It all depends where you get it, we talked about this a lot in the "I like guns" thread. I live in Montgomery county. mine took verrrrry long. I do have a kinda shady criminal record, but it still should not take more then a month. In Bucks... you can walk in and get it and be out the door in less than 45 min.

DC2.2GSR 11-23-2010 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OutToWinPAHC (Post 1858880)
Yes... but don't do it in Pittsburg or Philadelphia.... They have superseded code and plenty of case law that will cause you to land your @ss in jail. I wonder how myself, but play it safe.... concealed permit.

:bigeek: What??

Open carry is perfectly legal while on foot in Pittsburgh without a LTCF and also perfectly legal in Philadelphia with a valid LTCF (because it's the only City of the First Class in PA). There is no superseding the Uniform Firearms Act... it is the law. The Philadelphia's Police Department, which is made up of barely educated, corrupt thugs who couldn't care less what the law says, have been told numerous times about open carry in Philly being legal with a LTCF... specifically during their 2009 MPOETC training. It's those warped individuals who have completely distorted the law and have some sort of false impression that open carry is illegal and who wrongly arrest/detain/steal openly carried weapons from people who are well within their rights to open carry within the city because they hold a valid LTCF.

Because of recent events, they have been updated yet again, but they have chosen to write it into their "department policy" that officers are to stop, disarm, and check for LTCF if they see someone open carrying. That's against the law, but they will continue to break the law until someone steps in and puts up a legal fight. Fortunately for all of us, whether we choose to open carry or not, that's happening right now.

Basically, after a long winded post, everyone needs to understand that open carry IS legal in both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and there is nothing in case law or otherwise that says anything about it being illegal. If you happen to get hassled by either department or at worst, detained or arrested or have your weapon confiscated, well then you might just end up with a good chuck of money for your troubles.

ETA: I didn't see your other post.. I thought you were saying don't OC in either city at all. I see that you understand that LTCF is required to OC in Philly, but it is not required in Pittsburgh unless you hop in a car.

Big_Jim 11-23-2010 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OutToWinPAHC (Post 1858921)
And I live in Bucks County.

Location: Northeast Philly


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