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thefro526
06-08-2010, 01:32 PM
So, my first car was a 240sx, and I loved it. I had great plans for it and all this happy crap and then none of it materialized and I ended up selling the car. Then I bought and FC to build, which didn't happen, so now I'm finally back in an S13.

I bought this car for a steal, it's originally a Texas car. It's pretty much 98% rust free, with the worst of the rust just being minor surface stuff that would take 20 minutes to get rid of.

It's probably going to turn into a drift car, in some relative eventuality, assuming I don't crash it into a Curb, Car, Pole, Etc.

For now I'm going to let the pictures do the talking, all of which are copied from my blog.

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If you want the words that go along with the pictures then check out the link to my blog in my signature, I didn't feel like typing it all out.

sean3
06-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Needs less low

thefro526
06-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Needs less low

Lol. <3.

Teku18
06-08-2010, 08:50 PM
looking good dude. Can't wait to see where this goes. I remember meeting you once back when you had your old S13. Hope your plans work out for you this time.

ambitiousCK
06-09-2010, 12:45 AM
I want oneeeeeeeeeee lol good lck with your build

blackvr4
06-09-2010, 04:29 AM
3rd time is the charm man! good luck!

thefro526
06-09-2010, 08:17 AM
looking good dude. Can't wait to see where this goes. I remember meeting you once back when you had your old S13. Hope your plans work out for you this time.

I think we met way back in the day at one of the sonic meets.

You traded my brother for a vented headlight cover, right?

I want oneeeeeeeeeee lol good lck with your build

Thanks!

3rd time is the charm man! good luck!

That's what I'm hoping, too.

In car news, I ordered a quick release yesterday, and picked up a welded diff from Jspek (Chaz). I also drove the car ~30miles and throughly enjoyed most of it. It's still not running perfectly though, but I think that most of that can be blamed on the partially stale gas that's still in the tank.

I probably won't be working on the car much until Saturday. I've got to go to Virginia for a funeral.

taylor
06-09-2010, 08:27 AM
s13s ftw!

Nick Merrone
06-09-2010, 08:28 AM
looking good.

check out 240sxfamily.com (:

and welded diffs are FTW.

sobigsofly
06-09-2010, 08:46 AM
Love the steering wheel. Hopefully everything goes as planned.

thefro526
06-09-2010, 10:08 AM
looking good.

check out 240sxfamily.com (:

and welded diffs are FTW.

Thanks, and I've been on 240sxfamily before, but I don't need to join another forum, I'm already on NICO Club, Zilvia, TST, Clubloose and some other forums.

Love the steering wheel. Hopefully everything goes as planned.

Thanks, most people seem to like the wheel.

And I have a better feeling about this build. My life is a bit more stable, and I'm not a broke HS kid trying build cars with no money.

I also updated my blog with more pictures of the car, none of them are actually build related so I won't post them here.

motorvated
06-09-2010, 06:09 PM
niice ill be watching fro

96zenki
06-09-2010, 06:24 PM
i have the same horn button haha. i also have a matching pink crystal shift knob up for sale if your interested. for 40 dorra.

thefro526
06-09-2010, 07:03 PM
niice ill be watching fro

Thanks dude. What are you driving these days?

i have the same horn button haha. i also have a matching pink crystal shift knob up for sale if your interested. for 40 dorra.

Word? Can you shoot me some picturez?

Oh, and I'm still rocking that cup holder you sold me way back when.

abrok99
06-09-2010, 07:17 PM
nice im looking everywhere for a 240 for cheap but the drift tax is outrageous lol. good luck with her!

thefro526
06-09-2010, 07:28 PM
nice im looking everywhere for a 240 for cheap but the drift tax is outrageous lol. good luck with her!

The problem is that people have this misconception that 240's are cheap because everyone knows someone that bought one for nearly nothing.

Realistically the value of them is going up because of the increased demand.

The best thing to do is to find one that's not for sale and then offer some money for it. (what I did)

CleanNeon98
06-09-2010, 07:29 PM
Where those pix at?

thefro526
06-09-2010, 07:30 PM
Where those pix at?

I left my memory card at work.

I'll upload them in the AM.

JohnnyDrifter22
06-10-2010, 10:05 AM
Fro! Its looks good, if you ever need help with anything hit me up!

thefro526
06-10-2010, 10:18 AM
Fro! Its looks good, if you ever need help with anything hit me up!

Thanks! Right now I'm just saving money, waiting, and doing little things to stay busy so I can't really be helped.

I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to drop money on next, I'm personally leaning towards a motor, which I would probably order at the end of the month.

Btw, my car/blog got some love on the Deto International Blog (http://detointernational.com/blog/?p=1107), check it out.

Oh, and for the laughs.

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96zenki
06-10-2010, 03:49 PM
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motorvated
06-10-2010, 06:05 PM
Fro, right now im driving a 2010 VW Jetta. Its nothing special or fast..but its ok for now. 2.5, 5 speed rips around the city well. After i graduate, im going to upgrade. I just got such a good deal on the VW, I had to do it.

Teku18
06-10-2010, 08:39 PM
I think we met way back in the day at one of the sonic meets.

You traded my brother for a vented headlight cover, right?

Indeed I did. I am actually trying to get that cover back. Lol

P.S. Love the sticker

thefro526
06-13-2010, 03:15 PM
Anyone good with Single Cams? I need some help.

When I bought the car it had been sitting for a few years. The gas was stale and it drove like crap. Now I'm emptied the tank and put fresh premium gas in it and it's still not running that well.

1) Sometimes when coming to a stop the car's idle will flicker between 200 rpm and 800 rpm. Maybe in 1 in 5 of these instances the car will stall out and die. It quickly starts again without much issue. (Vacuum Leak?)

2) The car doesn't like to rev. In first and second gear the car will rev over 5k without too much effort. In third and fourth gear (and I'm assuming fifth) the rev over 4.5k and 5k respectively. It doesn't feel like a rev limiter because the car just cuts off and doesn't respond to throttle until the rpms drop to about 3k.

3) The car also just feels slow. I couldn't spin first or second gear in the rain today - Though I did have 3/4+ tank of fuel so this may have contributed to the difficulty spinning.

I'm most concerned with issue 2, does anyone have any ideas?

(Also, How do I change my thread title?)

///chrism3
06-13-2010, 03:17 PM
fro lets roll in into my garage and do a rb swap

Teku18
06-13-2010, 03:27 PM
My single cam does the same rev thing. And my car can't spin first of second its a single cam lol. The first one i have no idea sorry.

///chrism3
06-13-2010, 03:29 PM
fro do the single cams have a iac?

thefro526
06-13-2010, 03:39 PM
fro lets roll in into my garage and do a rb swap

The motor is getting swapped soon, but not for an RB.

Text me and I'll let you know what's up.

If this thing keeps running like crap then the swap is coming sooner than expected.

My single cam does the same rev thing. And my car can't spin first of second its a single cam lol. The first one i have no idea sorry.

Thanks, I'm searching Zilvia right now for answers. Some people said it could be a bad fuel pump and others said it could be a bad MAFS.

I don't think it's the pump though because that wouldn't explain the car falling flat on it's face.

I'm going to check some stuff now and report back.

fro do the single cams have a iac?

IAC = Idle air control? Yes, I believe so.

Cepa, if you want, come over so you can check this thing out, or I can shoot to your crib. LMK.

thefro526
06-13-2010, 04:51 PM
I'm fairly confident it's the fuel pump.

Driving the car is like this:

Neutral or Clutch in, Car will rev to more than 7k.

First Gear, Slow, Revs to approximately 6.5k without a hiccup. (I shift here, there's no reason to rev beyond that)

Second Gear, Slow, Revs to approximately 5.5k before dropping off, won't respond until approximately 3-3.2k.

Third Gear, Slow, Revs to approximately 4.5k before dropping off, won't respond until approximately 3-3.2k

Fourth Gear, Really Slow, Revs to approximately 4k before dropping off, won't respond until approximately 3-3.2k.

Fifth Gear, Really, Really Slow, won't rev above 3k Rpm or so.

This leads me to believe that the fuel pump is putting out less than optimal fuel pressure, so as the load increases (increase in Rpm) the demand for fuel increases. When the fuel pump can no longer keep up the ECU cuts the motor to protect it from encountering an extreme lean condition.

All of the above data would support the theory. As for the cut be lower as the gears go higher, the motor needs more power to accelerate in a higher gear due to a less advantageous ratio, as well as increased Drag etc.

I found numerous other sources on the internet where a similar problem was described and the fuel pump was at fault.

Now, onto my next question. Anyone know anywhere local that stocks Walbro 255lph fuel pumps?

Also, big thanks to Mr. Chris Cepa (///ChrisM3) for helping me diagnose this via phone call as he laid in bed sick.

///chrism3
06-13-2010, 05:00 PM
hahah not a problem fro just wish i was good enough to come see this thing ..o well im sure ill see it soon

JerseyTuscani
06-13-2010, 05:12 PM
Dustin: I'm going to kick your ass. That hello kitty steering wheel button was my idea!...LOL

thefro526
06-13-2010, 06:31 PM
Dustin: I'm going to kick your ass. That hello kitty steering wheel button was my idea!...LOL

Lol.

Too bad you don't have a 240.

Seriously though, can someone tell me how to edit the title of this thread...?

Teku18
06-13-2010, 08:08 PM
go to your first post #1 click edit post Go Advanced and you can do it from their.

thefro526
06-13-2010, 10:49 PM
go to your first post #1 click edit post Go Advanced and you can do it from their.

<3.

Next time I see you I owe you a high five.

thefro526
06-14-2010, 10:54 AM
This past weekend I put in some work on the 240. I removed the rattling heat shield, splash guards, re-bled the clutch, installed a welded diff, installed my eBay quick release, and some other misc stuff.

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More words and stuff are on my blog, link's in my sig.

blackvr4
06-14-2010, 03:41 PM
3) The car also just feels slow. I couldn't spin first or second gear in the rain today - Though I did have 3/4+ tank of fuel so this may have contributed to the difficulty spinning.

Have you checked either of the following, compression? and ignition timing? (I am sure though if ur compression was low it would show other signs in smoke, etc but it never hurts to know)

if your ignition timing is retarded to much it will cause the car to feel really slow. Get a timing gun and check that **** and set it to factory setting, make sure you don't have to ground out a timing connector or anything strange before setting the timing.

Also with the 5,000rpm limiter issue, arts vr-4 had a similar problem, we ran seafoam through the gas tank and it fixed the problem! maybe give that a try, sometimes its the simple **** that works.

and
DAMN you!!!
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thefro526
06-14-2010, 04:03 PM
Have you checked either of the following, compression? and ignition timing? (I am sure though if ur compression was low it would show other signs in smoke, etc but it never hurts to know)

if your ignition timing is retarded to much it will cause the car to feel really slow. Get a timing gun and check that **** and set it to factory setting, make sure you don't have to ground out a timing connector or anything strange before setting the timing.

Also with the 5,000rpm limiter issue, arts vr-4 had a similar problem, we ran seafoam through the gas tank and it fixed the problem! maybe give that a try, sometimes its the simple **** that works.

and
DAMN you!!!


I don't think it's the compression because, like you said I would have some sort of noticeable indication that the compression is bad. The motor doesn't smoke at all, the coolant looks good, etc.

I might look at the timing next, if installing a new fuel pump and filter doesn't work. I'm really thinking I'm still having issues with the fuel system though, like I'm not getting enough fuel to the motor, which sounds like the VR-4's problem as well.

I'm trying to find the minimum amount of work to get this motor running at at least 85% or so, just so that I can be awesomish on the street and get some usable seat time at the track.

And was the Damn you directed towards the cloves? If so, don't be too envious, they're not the good stuff like I used to have. The site that I bought through is being weird about payments so I'm stuck with the next best thing, which is what's in the picture. They're clove "cigarillos" which is just a cigarette wrapped in Tobacco, so it burns more like a cigar than a cigarette.

Teku18
06-14-2010, 04:11 PM
<3.

Next time I see you I owe you a high five.


Lol no problem car is coming along nice.

blackvr4
06-14-2010, 04:17 PM
I don't think it's the compression because, like you said I would have some sort of noticeable indication that the compression is bad. The motor doesn't smoke at all, the coolant looks good, etc.

I might look at the timing next, if installing a new fuel pump and filter doesn't work. I'm really thinking I'm still having issues with the fuel system though, like I'm not getting enough fuel to the motor, which sounds like the VR-4's problem as well.

I'm trying to find the minimum amount of work to get this motor running at at least 85% or so, just so that I can be awesomish on the street and get some usable seat time at the track.

And was the Damn you directed towards the cloves? If so, don't be too envious, they're not the good stuff like I used to have. The site that I bought through is being weird about payments so I'm stuck with the next best thing, which is what's in the picture. They're clove "cigarillos" which is just a cigarette wrapped in Tobacco, so it burns more like a cigar than a cigarette.

Also on arts VR-4 the compression is ****, like 95-100psi and it doesn't smoke or mix oil with coolant, his problem might be in the valves though, so if I would be you I would still check the compression just to be 100% sure, its free and it takes no more than 10mins.

and the damn was for the cloves, the "cigarillos" are no where near as good as the the original cigarettes which sucks :(

thefro526
06-14-2010, 04:20 PM
Lol no problem car is coming along nice.

Thanks!

It's coming along well, I'm just stalling right now trying to get this motor to run decently enough that I can play drifter.

If I can't fix it with a fuel pump then I'm just going to start buying stuff to swap it out. The mounts I want are on Zilvia until the end of the month, so I'm going to jump on them before then, then I'll probably order a motor around July 7th, as long as no unexpected stuff comes up.

thefro526
06-14-2010, 04:23 PM
Also on arts VR-4 the compression is ****, like 95-100psi and it doesn't smoke or mix oil with coolant, his problem might be in the valves though, so if I would be you I would still check the compression just to be 100% sure, its free and it takes no more than 10mins.

and the damn was for the cloves, the "cigarillos" are no where near as good as the the original cigarettes which sucks :(

Yeah, I think if it gets to the point where I'm checking compression and shooting in the dark looking for problems I'm just going to say F-it and start getting things rolling for my swap.

And I've found a new source that I'm going to try for Cloves. Their website says that they accept paypal, so I shot them an e-mail to see how to make it happen. Hopefully they're legit. If they are I'll let you know and you can jump in the order with me or something. You buy by the carton though, so it's like $22 for 10 packs.

blackvr4
06-14-2010, 04:51 PM
damn dude thats a good deal, maybe i can purchase some packs from u at the meet ;)

thefro526
06-14-2010, 08:15 PM
damn dude thats a good deal, maybe i can purchase some packs from u at the meet ;)

Or that, but it'll be at least 2 weeks before I have any.

Oh, and I put a Walbro in the Car.

It runs a lot better now.

It still is weird at the top of 3rd, but it's wayy better than before.

jdmtrent
06-16-2010, 12:43 PM
Looking good dude. That's my ex-coupe. I'm glad it went to someone who knows what they're doing. :thumbsup:

thefro526
06-16-2010, 01:59 PM
Looking good dude. That's my ex-coupe. I'm glad it went to someone who knows what they're doing. :thumbsup:

Thanks Dude.

I bought it from the girl who bought it from you.

I went through hell to get it but it was worth it.

I don't think I've seen such a rust free S13 this far north.

SpendOne
06-16-2010, 02:39 PM
Just to hop into your conversation about Cloves. They sell them at a smoke shop in Northeast Philly.

jdmtrent
06-16-2010, 02:43 PM
Thanks Dude.

I bought it from the girl who bought it from you.

I went through hell to get it but it was worth it.

I don't think I've seen such a rust free S13 this far north.

Haha. Lemme rephrase. You got the ex-coupe from the ex-woman. Anyhow...have fun with it. I'm sure i'll see ya out and about at CL. I got it like 3-4 years ago as a project but it ended up sitting in the driveway. No time to play with it. I may have brought it to one CL event and that was it.

Keep up the good work. Hope to see it get sideways soon. :mrgreen:

thefro526
06-16-2010, 03:00 PM
Haha. Lemme rephrase. You got the ex-coupe from the ex-woman. Anyhow...have fun with it. I'm sure i'll see ya out and about at CL. I got it like 3-4 years ago as a project but it ended up sitting in the driveway. No time to play with it. I may have brought it to one CL event and that was it.

Keep up the good work. Hope to see it get sideways soon. :mrgreen:

Ahhh....

I see now...

How'd the car get here from Texas?

thefro526
06-16-2010, 03:01 PM
Just to hop into your conversation about Cloves. They sell them at a smoke shop in Northeast Philly.

I'm guessing they're the clove cigarillos?

Or actual Djarum Black Cigarettes?

If it's the latter then they're kind of breaking the law-ish.

jdmtrent
06-16-2010, 03:22 PM
Ahhh....

I see now...

How'd the car get here from Texas?

The car was already in Jersey. The previous owner drove it up and was living in Edison at the time of purchase.

thefro526
06-17-2010, 09:49 AM
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There's also a video on my blog, but I'd rather not post it here, so if you want to check it out click the link in my signature.

-Dustin.

Teku18
06-27-2010, 08:09 AM
Car looked good at CL yesterday. I was the one who beeped at you when you were coming back to the track.

Also did that fuel pump fix the cutting off problem you had at high RPM?

denmah
06-27-2010, 11:50 AM
next step
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Vosko
06-28-2010, 01:45 AM
how did the tank look ? when you changed the fuel pump. it might be all gunked up... also i'd do a full tune up if you haven't already

Chris B.
06-28-2010, 05:11 AM
next step
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/images/lsx2_large.jpg

I agree. Almost any SBC swap will give that car more than enough power.

Also, an aluminum block, heads, and manifold SBC would be really nice for weight balance. GM Performance Parts Bow-Tie aluminum block, Dart 18 degree heads, and a single plane manifold will give you enough power to embarass many cars in a straight line and also light up the rear tires on demand. :lol:

thefro526
06-28-2010, 09:10 AM
Car looked good at CL yesterday. I was the one who beeped at you when you were coming back to the track.

Also did that fuel pump fix the cutting off problem you had at high RPM?

I was going to beep back, but I waved instead. (Horn Doesn't Work) Your car is looking pretty rad too, it just needs wheels.

As far as I can tell the fuel pump fixed the cutting out problem in first, second, and third gear. I don't know about fourth or fifth for sure because I haven't had the space to rev either of those all the way out.

next step
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Yeah. No.

I'll never put an American V8 in any non-American car I own. It's just the easy way out to make power and it's stupid.

how did the tank look ? when you changed the fuel pump. it might be all gunked up... also i'd do a full tune up if you haven't already

The tank looked fine, or I should say no worse than any other S13 tank I've ever seen. I'm probably going to pull it an clean it down the line, but for now I think I'll be fine.

The full tune up was something I was planning on doing, but the way things are shaping up I'm probably just going to blow this motor up and be done with it. The head started doing the single cam head tick thing, and I think the compression is low on at least one cylinder so I'm sort of hoping it'll just blow up soon.

I agree. Almost any SBC swap will give that car more than enough power.

Also, an aluminum block, heads, and manifold SBC would be really nice for weight balance. GM Performance Parts Bow-Tie aluminum block, Dart 18 degree heads, and a single plane manifold will give you enough power to embarass many cars in a straight line and also light up the rear tires on demand. :lol:

Thanks for the information, but again I'm not putting a V8 in this car.

Also, this car will probably only go in a straight line once, just so I can prove a point.

Vosko
06-28-2010, 10:42 AM
my old car sat for a few years. the gas in the tank was green! it was pretty obvious it turned to varnish. as long as it looks gold in there you are fine. sohc's last a while, just drive it till it stops driving.

thefro526
06-28-2010, 11:05 AM
my old car sat for a few years. the gas in the tank was green! it was pretty obvious it turned to varnish. as long as it looks gold in there you are fine. sohc's last a while, just drive it till it stops driving.

Green gas. Ew. Hahaha.

Yeah, the inside of my tank is still like an Yellowish color so I think I'm okay. I didn't see much debris at the bottom either, and I was way too lazy to pick what little there was out.

And I'm hoping the Single-jingle runs for another month at least but who knows. If it blows up it'll actually make getting things done easier so I'm looking forward to it.

Btw, do you still have the FD? I was trolling ZT a while back and saw that you picked one up.

Teku18
06-28-2010, 09:36 PM
I was going to beep back, but I waved instead. (Horn Doesn't Work) Your car is looking pretty rad too, it just needs wheels.

As far as I can tell the fuel pump fixed the cutting out problem in first, second, and third gear. I don't know about fourth or fifth for sure because I haven't had the space to rev either of those all the way out.

Haha it's cool and thanks for the compliment. Hoping to go 5 lug soon and getting rims from their. About the fuel cut off I think I am going to look into a fuel pump and see if that helps me.

thefro526
06-29-2010, 08:24 AM
Haha it's cool and thanks for the compliment. Hoping to go 5 lug soon and getting rims from their. About the fuel cut off I think I am going to look into a fuel pump and see if that helps me.

It seems like not being 5-lug is everyone's excuse for wheels these days... :P. I'm probably going to try those eBay hubs just to see how bad or good they are.

Yeah, I seriously suggest replacing the fuel pump though. I went with a Walbro 255lph, it's like $95 from EliteJDM.

Teku18
06-29-2010, 10:34 AM
lol well i wanna get volk te37's so i need 5 lug. only 4 lug te's i have see are for a civic at elite. my offset would be horrendous

thefro526
06-29-2010, 01:00 PM
lol well i wanna get volk te37's so i need 5 lug. only 4 lug te's i have see are for a civic at elite. my offset would be horrendous

Oh.

Why not just get Grids?

All of the awesome for less money and 4-lug.

chubz
06-29-2010, 01:48 PM
OHHHHH ****! this was suposed to by my 240 b4 my motor went on my EG lol. awww man good times in that 240. take good care of it homie!

Teku18
06-29-2010, 04:35 PM
Oh.

Why not just get Grids?

All of the awesome for less money and 4-lug.

Don't feel like buying knockoff rims. I know their are a few 4 lug rims I like. but i plan on doing 5 lug anyway so why waste the money. anyway /threadjack lol

thefro526
06-29-2010, 05:43 PM
Don't feel like buying knockoff rims. I know their are a few 4 lug rims I like. but i plan on doing 5 lug anyway so why waste the money. anyway /threadjack lol

Rota's aren't really knock-off's anymore, or at least not in the true sense of the word. They've got enough engineering behind their wheels that I'd say they're a stand alone entity. They may take other people's designs, but that happens everywhere.

Btw, feel free to use this thread for any discussion you think I might be into. I don't mind.

Teku18
07-09-2010, 11:30 PM
Question. Your walboro is it a 255lph or 190lph? Friend of mine said a 255 might be to much for the SOHC. So I am JW?

thefro526
07-12-2010, 08:53 AM
Question. Your walboro is it a 255lph or 190lph? Friend of mine said a 255 might be to much for the SOHC. So I am JW?

I didn't know they made anything but a 255lph.

I've had 255's in both of my 240's, both of which were stock KA's and didn't have a problem.

Teku18
07-12-2010, 07:37 PM
Okay sweet. I didn't know they made a 190 either until my friend told me about it.

thefro526
07-13-2010, 09:16 AM
Okay sweet. I didn't know they made a 190 either until my friend told me about it.

I just did a quick search on the 190lph because I was curious, and it seems like it would definitely work. I went with the 255lph so that I knew I would be moving more than enough fuel for whatever motor goes in next. If you're planning on swapping the car down the road I'd go with the 255, but if you're going to stay single cam and want to save $30 then go with the 190.

Teku18
07-13-2010, 04:27 PM
I am working on building a KA-T actually lol, but thanks.

thefro526
07-15-2010, 10:47 AM
I am working on building a KA-T actually lol, but thanks.

Oh, then I'd definitely go with a 255 lph.

Though, I'm not a KA-T fan.

demon_camber
07-16-2010, 07:53 PM
the fro!! it needs more lows!!!!!........and maybe a fj20 swap!!!! for old school points!!!! lmao but great base chassis, i need to start working on my s13 agian!!!!!

OutToWinPAHC
07-16-2010, 08:20 PM
Wow FJ20, I always day if I do another 240 its gonna be a FJ20ET, and people are like huh what, whats a skyline rsx.

Points to you sir.
http://datnut.dfrag.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/FJMotivator-700x560.jpg

jdmwill
07-16-2010, 08:53 PM
i <3 the fro

Maxxdsix
07-28-2010, 01:24 AM
I think I got some shots of your car at nopi il post them on here when I get back home. I didn't get to see it drift though, all I saw was you driving around in a bimmer

OutlawzPrez
07-28-2010, 02:23 AM
:afro::afro::afro::afro::afro::afro::afro::afro::a fro::afro::afro::afro::afro::afro::afro:

thefro526
07-28-2010, 08:13 AM
the fro!! it needs more lows!!!!!........and maybe a fj20 swap!!!! for old school points!!!! lmao but great base chassis, i need to start working on my s13 agian!!!!!

You have an S13?

And have fun trying to find FJ20 stuff stateside. I'm pretty sure they're rare in Japan.

Cool motors though.

Wow FJ20, I always day if I do another 240 its gonna be a FJ20ET, and people are like huh what, whats a skyline rsx.



Yeah, I don't think most people have ever even heard of an FJ20 and even fewer have seen one.

i <3 the fro

TheFro <3's you too.

I think I got some shots of your car at nopi il post them on here when I get back home. I didn't get to see it drift though, all I saw was you driving around in a bimmer

Oh cool.

My 240 wasn't at Nopi though... :(

I blew the motor Thursday night so I've been driving the BMW everywhere.

demon_camber
07-28-2010, 10:21 PM
You have an S13?

yes i do, a 1990 pignose coupe. thats my "on the side project" lol.

thefro526
08-23-2010, 09:55 AM
So, I haven't really updated this thread too much, I've been too busy with the blog and playing amatuer photographer to sit down and write something decent.

To sum up the last few months of owning this car, I finally got it running decently after replacing the fuel pump. I drove it around a lot, putting like 1200 miles on it in a month (while also putting another 1800 or so on my DD) had some fun, revved at ricers, the usual. I tried doing some donuts and stupid stuff in the rain and the car just didn't make power in Second Gear so I was forced to use this sketchy First/Second method to get the car sideways.

I gave up on doing stupid stuff in it for a bit when work got really busy, not that it's not busy now, so the car sat for a few weeks and stuff. I only drove the car to meets on occasion and stuff. About 4 weeks ago I took the car to a local meet where I let a friend of mine drive it. He came back and said "what's up with the rod knock". I knew the motor didn't have a knock, I'm pretty sure the noise he heard was just the trans being stupid from me shifting without the clutch, but I took it out just incase. Needless to say, I was ripping on that Single Cam. When I started the car is started to knock. I'm like "WTF!?!?!?!" As I drove home the knock got worse and worse until it sounded like something was grinding against the cylinder walls. So the motor was toast, whatever.

The car sat broken for a while so I could catch up on work and make sure this project got out on time and correctly. After that was all said and done, I took the plunge and ordered a new motor, it should be here next week. While I was at it I ordered full Powered by Max Multi-Link, in addition to some other goodies from them.

This past Saturday my friend Ian, SJS2K on here, came by to help me pull the motor out of the car. It wasn't too bad, I think we got it out in 4 hours or so, and neither he or I have ever pulled a 240 motor before, and I've never pulled a motor out of anything before.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/39982_422379937692_601157692_5396631_4027298_n.jpg ?w=640&h=477

So, now the car is sitting in my driveway about a foot off the ground with no motor in it. Rear subframe is coming out this week along with all the excess crap from the engine bay so I can figure out my next move.

-Dustin.

JerseyTuscani
08-23-2010, 10:34 AM
what motor did you order? plz say sr20....:)

jesse096
08-23-2010, 10:34 AM
Definitely keeping an eye on this... 240's are sweet, and it looks like this ones gonna be no different.

I was gonna ask you if you changed your fuel filter, but now that you blew the engine up it won't mater much :mrgreen: I had the same problem with my truck, and the filter helped out a lot...

-Jesse

thefro526
08-23-2010, 11:19 AM
what motor did you order? plz say sr20....:)

Why would I order an SR20?

They suck.

Like, for 200-250 horsepower, they're awesome, you can't beat them for the money. But, when I want to make 300, I'll have to get a new turbo, injectors, tune etc, and by that point I'll be looking at a minimum of $1500-$2000 on top of the price of just the SR swap. Also, I'll probably have some poopy-small torqueless powerband unless I crack the head open and do cams and stuff, which I'm really not feeling.

Definitely keeping an eye on this... 240's are sweet, and it looks like this ones gonna be no different.

I was gonna ask you if you changed your fuel filter, but now that you blew the engine up it won't mater much :mrgreen: I had the same problem with my truck, and the filter helped out a lot...

-Jesse

Thanks Buddy!

I never got around to changing the fuel filter, it was seized on there after I did the fuel pump and I never really had the extra time to get in there and mess with it once the car was running acceptably again. I'm sure a new filter would've helped a bunch, but the motors already dead so we're just dwelling on the past here.

Foolinaround
08-23-2010, 11:26 AM
rb? ca?

thefro526
08-23-2010, 11:38 AM
rb? ca?

It's not an RB20 because while those motors are cheap and rev awesomely, they're really expensive to make power with. There's not a hug aftermarket for the RB20, so if I wanted certain parts, I'd have to source them through Aussie Land or Japan.

It's not an RB25 because they tend to run hot. I just witnessed this with OB's car this weekend at Pocono Drift. Even with Dual 12" fans and a Thick aluminum radiator he was only about to get 2 or 3 runs before getting too hot. Overheating scares the crap out of me, so I decided to stay away from RB25's.

It's not an RB26, because I'm not that baller. Real Talk.

It's not a CA18, because they're just weird. I don't like them. (Not to mention they are really expensive to build for high power).

sean3
08-23-2010, 11:40 AM
I know it! You're getting an LS1.

jesse096
08-23-2010, 12:36 PM
I never got around to changing the fuel filter, it was seized on there after I did the fuel pump and I never really had the extra time to get in there and mess with it once the car was running acceptably again. I'm sure a new filter would've helped a bunch, but the motors already dead so we're just dwelling on the past here.

Might want to look into it still, unless your gonna change the whole fuel system out when the new motor arrives, don't wanna smoke your new engine right out of the gate know what I mean?

-Jesse

Nick Merrone
08-23-2010, 12:39 PM
If its a v8 of any kind. this build thread will turn homosexual.

jesse096
08-23-2010, 12:47 PM
If its a v8 of any kind. this build thread will turn homosexual.

:lol::rotfl:

-Jesse

240sxDoug
08-23-2010, 12:52 PM
Muaha, I know his plans. :)

It was good meeting you yesterday at PDF, dude. This is Doug, by the way.

Nick Merrone
08-23-2010, 12:53 PM
:lol::rotfl:

-Jesse

LS's are getting gay..When there was like only 3 of them It was cool. Now theres too many. Although i have been debating putting a 350 in my spare shell..haha.

jesse096
08-23-2010, 01:18 PM
I've only seen one, but I've only been on the site for a day now haha, I just don't see the need to stuff a V8 into a car designed for a 4cyl or 6cyl... the amount of cash you need to do a v8 swap could be used to get things for the engine that's already there...

-Jesse

240sxDoug
08-23-2010, 01:22 PM
I've only seen one, but I've only been on the site for a day now haha, I just don't see the need to stuff a V8 into a car designed for a 4cyl or 6cyl... the amount of cash you need to do a v8 swap could be used to get things for the engine that's already there...

-Jesse
Certain V8 swaps are actually about as much as an SR with a slight build. Except they're a million times more reliable and you don't have to deal with the typical headaches of a turbo car. :)

But no, it's not a V8.

thefro526
08-23-2010, 01:28 PM
I know it! You're getting an LS1.

Yeah. No.

The only way I would ever put a V8 in an S-chassis is if someone gave me one fo' free or if it was a VH45, but I really don't feel like going that route anymore because I don't want to have to spend 3 or 4 thousand to make power above 300hp.

Might want to look into it still, unless your gonna change the whole fuel system out when the new motor arrives, don't wanna smoke your new engine right out of the gate know what I mean?

-Jesse

I've got to redo the fuel lines anyway for the swap so I'll do it then. I have a Z32 Fuel filter somewhere that's brand new.

If its a v8 of any kind. this build thread will turn homosexual.

Muaha, I know his plans. :)

It was good meeting you yesterday at PDF, dude. This is Doug, by the way.

Doug! It was awesome meeting you too! Oh and I got your friend request on FB last night.

LS's are getting gay..When there was like only 3 of them It was cool. Now theres too many. Although i have been debating putting a 350 in my spare shell..haha.

LS's swapped S-Chassis Drift cars were always gay.

There are only like 3 cool ones in this country, and even those are pushing it.

I've only seen one, but I've only been on the site for a day now haha, I just don't see the need to stuff a V8 into a car designed for a 4cyl or 6cyl... the amount of cash you need to do a v8 swap could be used to get things for the engine that's already there...

-Jesse

Some V8 swaps are relatively cheap compared to the other swaps as long as you can do fab yourself. The torque is really the only advantage that V8's have over 4 and 6 cylinder cars.

Certain V8 swaps are actually about as much as an SR with a slight build. Except they're a million times more reliable and you don't have to deal with the typical headaches of a turbo car. :)

But no, it's not a V8.


Trillz.

OutToWinPAHC
08-23-2010, 01:38 PM
FJ20et

jesse096
08-23-2010, 01:42 PM
You got me on the torque, but when I see a nice car like a 240 or an RX-7, I'm expecting to hear a high strung engine, not the low rumble of a small block... personal preference I guess, the V8 has it's pros as well...

-Jesse

Nick Merrone
08-23-2010, 01:42 PM
2jz...

Elliott18t
08-23-2010, 01:44 PM
1.8T!!!! what do I win? :cool:

Maxxdsix
08-23-2010, 01:57 PM
Supercharged V12? :D

OutToWinPAHC
08-23-2010, 01:58 PM
Its the fro... whatever it is will it run on afrosheen?

thefro526
08-23-2010, 01:59 PM
FJ20et

I don't even know where to get one of those.

2jz...

Nope, 2jz's a bit overkill.

1.8T!!!! what do I win? :cool:

Nothing?

Supercharged V12? :D

I wish I could get a motor like that.

In retrospect I'm really glad I was vague as to what motor I was swapping into here. It's made for quite the entertaining day at work.

Nick Merrone
08-23-2010, 02:03 PM
Nick merrone hurt itself out of confusion.

thefro526
08-23-2010, 02:07 PM
Nick merrone hurt itself out of confusion.

I like the Pokemon Reference.

tranceporter
08-23-2010, 02:25 PM
hmm.. 1j? maybe a vq?

Foolinaround
08-23-2010, 03:22 PM
VQ,or VG. Considering you said z32 fuel filter?

jspek
08-23-2010, 03:32 PM
i have a z32 fuel filer too. nothing special about that. vq would be iggght i guess. stop being so damn secretive.

Foolinaround
08-23-2010, 03:35 PM
ah,i guess it flows better since its for the v6,im not a huge nismo head so knowledge is limited.

thefro526
08-23-2010, 04:02 PM
hmm.. 1j? maybe a vq?

You sir are correct!

VQ,or VG. Considering you said z32 fuel filter?

S-Chassis guys run Z32 Fuel Filters with almost any motor that uses the stock fuel lines. They're huge and flow really well.

i have a z32 fuel filer too. nothing special about that. vq would be iggght i guess. stop being so damn secretive.

I'm not being secretive, I've been talking about getting a 1JZ for a while now, I just never really posted here about it. I think it's been on my Blog since like last Friday or something.

I just having fun with people guessing, so I figured I'd let them guess until someone got it.

ah,i guess it flows better since its for the v6,im not a huge nismo head so knowledge is limited.

Yah.

OutToWinPAHC
08-23-2010, 04:22 PM
S-Chassis guys run Z32 Fuel Filters with almost any motor that uses the stock fuel lines. They're huge and flow really well.


Agreed, I run one at 75psi, works fine even at 500whp na

thefro526
08-23-2010, 04:36 PM
Agreed, I run one at 75psi, works fine even at 500whp na

Wow, that's pretty impressive. It seems like almost every Swapped S-Chassis I've ever seen has used a Z32 Fuel filter, whether it be a stock SR or LSX...

I guess the fact that you can drive on over to almost any auto parts store and buy one for $15 helps too.

lawlhonda
08-23-2010, 04:43 PM
what motor did you order? plz say sr20....:)

please do

lawlhonda
08-23-2010, 04:54 PM
sorry bout that last post didnt see everything after haha. 1jz is pretty exciting my friend just got a 1jz for his s14

Teku18
08-23-2010, 06:27 PM
Horray for the Nissota!!

tranceporter
08-23-2010, 07:48 PM
:afro:

thefro526
08-23-2010, 08:16 PM
Any of you fools want the old KA?

If you want to come and haul it away it's yours.

Also, all of the 5-speed stuff will be up for sale soon, once I can get it it all sorted out. Basically, it'll be everything for a 5-speed conversion except the pedal and master cylinder.

Foolinaround
08-23-2010, 09:33 PM
Welcome to the yota side brahbrah,even though its like a half aborted fetus baby. So single turbo 1jz out of a soarer or what?

OutToWinPAHC
08-23-2010, 09:40 PM
A 1.5JZ would have been just a little cooler.

S14_MarZ
08-23-2010, 10:21 PM
love the coupe bro .. i want one for a beater/2nd drift car .. lol .. good luck with the swap =]

thefro526
08-24-2010, 07:50 AM
Welcome to the yota side brahbrah,even though its like a half aborted fetus baby. So single turbo 1jz out of a soarer or what?

Hahaha.

To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what the motor is out of, I'll need to look at it when it gets here. As far as I can tell, it is a Soarer 1JZ because that's what the company I ordered it from told me it was out of, and it's got a later model Soarer Shifter Extension on it, though the throttle body inlet is throwing me off a bit because it's got multiple sensors before the the TPS which makes it look like a JZX90 Motor, but then again I'm not sure. The motor should be here Thursday or Friday, so when it gets here pictures will be up for sure. I'll probably talk to our Friendly Neighborhood JDM parts warehouse, EliteJDM, to see what it came out of so I know what Clutch I need and all that Jazz.

A 1.5JZ would have been just a little cooler.

It would've, but that requires me to take apart the Motor which isn't really something I want to do at this point. If I ever decide I want to make more power or want more displacement I'll probably pick up and NA 2JZ block (Since they came in like everything) and make a high compression Turbo 1.5JZ that runs E85 or something cool like that.

But for now, 2.5L of displacement should be more than enough to get me into trouble.

love the coupe bro .. i want one for a beater/2nd drift car .. lol .. good luck with the swap =]

Thanks Dude! It's funny, I actually kind of want to pick up and S14 as a DD to replace my BMW, but We'll have to see how money goes next year.

For those of you wondering why I chose to go 1JZ, instead of something like an RB25 or SR20 or KA-T or whatever these were my reasons:

Expense of Motor: 1JZ motorsets can be had for around 2k all day, if you know where to look and 1JZ long blocks are even cheaper than that should I ever pop the motor or something.

Expense of Swap: When you look into it, Mechanically, a 1JZ swap is very similar to an RB25 swap. You need conversion mounts, a Driveshaft and then it goes right in. (Assuming you've got the correct shifter and oil pan)

Reliability: I've seen people push 300hp and similar Torque on Stock Turbos with a Down Pipe, Exhaust, Slightly Higher Boost than factory, and an Intake. All things considered, when I'm done, I should have spent about the same amount of money on this swap as I would've building a 300hp SR but I'll have a way more awesome powerband. Additionally, I'll have a bone stock motor that can take abuse for days and days.

The two biggest Hurdles to over come with a 1JZ swap seem to be the wiring and exhaust routing. The swap wiring can be done by a couple of mail order companys for prices ranging from about $600-$800 with the appropriate speedometer and tach correction units. The exhaust on a 1JZ does come out on the wrong side compared to most Nissan Swaps though, so I'll have to invest in a custom exhaust since nothing off the shelf will really work for this.

Oh, 1JZ's sound awesome too.

-Dustin.

zidek
08-24-2010, 11:02 PM
nice plans. do you think it'll be ready by spring?

oh and have you seen my Ashy Larry? just updated it the story hehe

thefro526
08-25-2010, 07:04 AM
nice plans. do you think it'll be ready by spring?

oh and have you seen my Ashy Larry? just updated it the story hehe

My goal is to have it running by the end of September, I really would like to drive at least one CL event before the year's over. But if I don't make the end of September, I don't really foresee the car taking too long after that to finish.

Ashy Larry? What's that about?

OutToWinPAHC
08-25-2010, 07:23 AM
http://silviav8forums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=791

thefro526
08-25-2010, 07:48 AM
http://silviav8forums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=791

Luckily I have a username and password for that site.

Thanks bro. <3

Edit: I compared the information in that thread to what I saw on Zilvia and the specs on the fittings all seem to line up. Sweet.

OBEEWON
08-25-2010, 04:03 PM
I am so excite. Can't wait to see your fro under a helmet doing the angry black man burnout.

thefro526
08-25-2010, 04:33 PM
I am so excite. Can't wait to see your fro under a helmet doing the angry black man burnout.

Sig-ed.

I HATE wearing helmets.

I like burnouts.

Oh, and the motor came into my job today. I just have to walk out to my car and grab the Camera to take some pictures. I'll probably take the motor Home tomorrow after I've procured and engine stand and made space in my Garage.

Teku18
08-25-2010, 05:07 PM
Sweet! Can't wait to see this put together

zidek
08-25-2010, 06:01 PM
Ashy Larry? What's that about?

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87432

thefro526
08-26-2010, 07:26 AM
Sweet! Can't wait to see this put together

Me either.

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87432

Oh, I see'd that. Car is cool.

In build related news, I went to Harbor Freight Yesterday and bought an Engine Stand so I can bring the 1JZ home and get to work.

It looks like this:
http://www.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/370x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_217.jpg

I also pulled the rest of the harness out of the engine bay, I just have to get the two dash connectors and the KA ECU plug out from under the dash and I should be good to go. I need to get my harnesses out ASAP so I'm not waiting a Million, Billion years for them to get worked on.

I also have to buy a Bunch of stuff like a Radiator, Engine Mounts, Clutch, Inter-cooler Piping (Which, if anyone has any random piping bends and stuff I'll buy them off you, shoot me a PM - I think I need 3 inch, but I'm not sure, I have to wait until I look at my Core tomorrow.)

Should have some actual pictures up tomorrow, and if not then sometime this weekend. I've been working 7-5:30 or 6 most days this week so by the time I get home it's already dark or I'm all tired and stuff.

Teku18
08-26-2010, 04:39 PM
Do work Fro! Sounds like its coming along great. I gotta get to HF and get an engine stand for my motor build.

thefro526
08-30-2010, 08:29 AM
Sorry for not updating this in a few days. I haven't had a picture friendly (non-iPhone) way to access TST in the last few days.

I've gotten some more work done on the car and some more parts came in but I'm still kind of dragging my feet with everything because I've been so damn busy.

Wednesday the motor came into my job, so Thursday I commandered a truck and loaded the motor up and got it home. The only thing I've done on the motor so far is started removing the wiring harness so I can get it sent out to be spliced. All of the connectors are undone on the Motor, I just need to figure out how to detach it from where it mounts to the intake manifold.

As far as the car goes, I got both of the Engine Harnesses pulled - upper and lower, took the dash out, started removing a bunch of front end crap so I can figure out where I need to cut for the HMIC, took a lot of the interior apart, and started stripping down the engine bay to figure out what's going where and everything. Looks like I'm going to get lucky and fuel lines aren't going to be a nightmare after all, and the clutch line looks like it'll be cake as well...

Here are some pictures:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dsc_0420.jpg?w=1024&h=680

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dsc_0422.jpg?w=1024&h=680

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dsc_0418.jpg?w=1024&h=680

Oh, and I got some cool stuff in on Friday.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dsc_0004.jpg?w=1024&h=680

Powered By Max Multilink, Subframe Risers and HMIC Core.

This thing is going to be low. :D

OBEEWON
08-30-2010, 09:58 AM
Ungh nuh nah nih nah.

thefro526
08-30-2010, 10:43 AM
Btw, dudes:

Anyone looking to get a pair of 17 x 9" 5X114.3 Rota Grids in like +25 Offset want to split the price of a set of wheels with me? I want to get a set of 17x9.5's for rears, and then run a pair of 17x9's up front.

Thing is, Wheeldude is the only vendor that stocks Grids and is willing to sell in pairs. They quoted me at 444.xx for a pair shipped (Or $400 for the pair if I buy the 9.5's from them aswell, but they're like $90 more expensive), but I'm thinking that if I find someone that wants a pair for themselves then we can split the cost of a set which would be $400 each from wheel dude or like $365 each if we order from one of the vendors on eBay (I say eBay because then you know that they actually have the wheels, it seems like everyone and their brother has Grids listed but they're all out of stock).

Dustin
08-30-2010, 12:40 PM
Btw, dudes:

Anyone looking to get a pair of 17 x 9" 5X114.3 Rota Grids in like +25 Offset want to split the price of a set of wheels with me? I want to get a set of 17x9.5's for rears, and then run a pair of 17x9's up front.

Thing is, Wheeldude is the only vendor that stocks Grids and is willing to sell in pairs. They quoted me at 444.xx for a pair shipped (Or $400 for the pair if I buy the 9.5's from them aswell, but they're like $90 more expensive), but I'm thinking that if I find someone that wants a pair for themselves then we can split the cost of a set which would be $400 each from wheel dude or like $365 each if we order from one of the vendors on eBay (I say eBay because then you know that they actually have the wheels, it seems like everyone and their brother has Grids listed but they're all out of stock).
I may be down for this. I contacted wheel dude about a pair of 17x9 +25's too and wasn't too thrilled about the price haha

thefro526
08-30-2010, 01:27 PM
I may be down for this. I contacted wheel dude about a pair of 17x9 +25's too and wasn't too thrilled about the price haha

Sweet deal.

I'm probably going to be ordering sometime within the next week or so, so just let me know what's up via PM or something. I've been checking around for pricing the last few days and it looks like they'd end up being like $400 for the pair from WheelDude (Free shipping because the order would be over $600) or like ~$365 for the pair if we can get them through Agency Motorsports on Zilvia.

The only reason I'd go with WheelDude is if you wanted a specific color because Agency Motorsports is sort of hit or miss with colors, I'll probably get mine Powder Coated or Spray Bomb them anyway.

zidek
08-30-2010, 07:11 PM
decide on aero yet?

DelayedZ
08-30-2010, 08:15 PM
Sweet deal.

I'm probably going to be ordering sometime within the next week or so, so just let me know what's up via PM or something. I've been checking around for pricing the last few days and it looks like they'd end up being like $400 for the pair from WheelDude (Free shipping because the order would be over $600) or like ~$365 for the pair if we can get them through Agency Motorsports on Zilvia.

The only reason I'd go with WheelDude is if you wanted a specific color because Agency Motorsports is sort of hit or miss with colors, I'll probably get mine Powder Coated or Spray Bomb them anyway.


Becareful with wheeldude, they say the shtuff is in stock but it never is, and they won't tell you unless you push em on it.

thefro526
08-30-2010, 08:26 PM
decide on aero yet?

Kinda sorta, it's going to be a hodgepodge of Chaser Aero stuff.

But that's a while down the road. I need to stop sucking at driving before I get aero.

Becareful with wheeldude, they say the shtuff is in stock but it never is, and they won't tell you unless you push em on it.

I was just emailing them last week and they had some colors in stock. I'll probably call them before I do anything.

OutToWinPAHC
08-30-2010, 08:41 PM
Why chaser? Its kinda like the SR20, almost everyone has it.

JerseyTuscani
08-30-2010, 08:43 PM
I'm really excited for you Dustin. This is the furthest you've come to building a car and you are doing a kick ass job of it. Can't wait to see this thing completed I know you will be happy with it. Mad props to my favorite pokemon loving, afro rocking, jdm loving oreo.

thefro526
08-31-2010, 08:04 AM
Why chaser? Its kinda like the SR20, almost everyone has it.

I'm getting weird stuff from Chaser.

You'll see.

And there's not really another replica company out there that's based on the East Coast.

I'm really excited for you Dustin. This is the furthest you've come to building a car and you are doing a kick ass job of it. Can't wait to see this thing completed I know you will be happy with it. Mad props to my favorite pokemon loving, afro rocking, jdm loving oreo.

Thanks Boss.

thefro526
09-02-2010, 02:51 PM
Quick Update:

Ordered a Radiator, Fans, and Clutch from our friendly neighborhood JDM Importer (Or should I call them a Speed Shop now?) yesterday so that stuff should be in next week. I'm planning on sending out my harnesses tomorrow to Phoenix tuning, now that I've got a few days to breath.

I'm planning on test fitting the motor for the first time this weekend so I can get a drive-shaft measurement and to start figuring out Fuel Line and Inter-cooler Pipe Routing so that should be fun.

By the way, do any of you guys know of any local vendors that sell and stock Inter-cooler Piping that's pre-bent? I really only need about 12" of straight piping and 2 180* bends...

Oh, and I listed my 5-speed trans and stuff for sale, I'll probably have more parts listed this weekend if all goes well.

GOULET
09-02-2010, 03:09 PM
proper motor.

what are you planning for a mount kit? and please tell me you are going single :mrgreen:

thefro526
09-02-2010, 04:34 PM
proper motor.

what are you planning for a mount kit? and please tell me you are going single :mrgreen:

Thanks Dude. I'm really a 1JZ fan, and I'm not sure why. They just give me this warm fuzzy feeling when I think about them.

As far as mounts go, I'm using the Zerolift Autolab 1JZ to S-Chassis mounts. They bolt up to the 1JZ and then allow the 1JZ to be mounted to the Stock Isolators on the S-Chassis. The Transmission cross-member uses the R154 Isolator and bolts to the factory cross-member locations on the Chassis. I'm really a fan of them because they use the stock mounting points rather than some subframe mod and all that crap.

I'm staying stock twins for a while, I actually hate working on Motors, Turbos, Exhausts, etc so I just want to minimize the amount of that stuff I have to do.. Down the road I'll probably rock some conservative single setup or something and make 400hp, but for now the Stock Twins should be more than enough for my power goals.

Teku18
09-02-2010, 09:00 PM
How long until you get this in? Did you get a time frame on the wire splicing?

thefro526
09-03-2010, 07:54 AM
How long until you get this in? Did you get a time frame on the wire splicing?

It really depends on work at this point.

I've been working like 50-55 hours a week for the last few weeks, so if that keeps up then I'm probably never going to get this thing done.

The wire splicing, including shipping and all that fun stuff will probably be about 2 weeks from the day I send it out... I just haven't sent it out yet - been too busy.

thefro526
09-07-2010, 08:25 AM
Installed my Intercooler Yesterday.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/img_0497.jpg?w=640&h=478

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/img_0498.png?w=640&h=477

Waiting for more parts and stuff to come in this week. I really should get these harnesses mailed out too.

Teku18
09-07-2010, 04:18 PM
What intercooler is that? I am looking to get a small one when I do my car.

OBEEWON
09-07-2010, 04:26 PM
I'm probably never going to get this thing done.... I just haven't sent it out yet - been too busy.

Get your priorities straight Fro.

thefro526
09-07-2010, 04:39 PM
What intercooler is that? I am looking to get a small one when I do my car.

It's the Powered By Max HMIC (High Mount Intercooler) Core. Retail is $250 for just the core, and for the entire kit for KA or SR with pipes is $380. Here's a link: http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?11

Just for the record, the HMIC kit isn't the best option out there because it requires you to cut the radiator support and delete the Pop-Up light motors.

Get your priorities straight Fro.

These are my priorities at the moment:

1) Work
2) School
3) 240sx

Though, working as much as I've been working is going to help me with the whole car build thingy. I've been averaging between 16-20 hours overtime a pay period which is increasing my net pay by about 30% or so... It just sucks, because I've been working like ~7am-~8am to ~6pm-7pm most days so by the time I get home I've got about an hour daylight to work, if I don't have school that evening. This weekend's also a wash as far as working on the car goes, Imma be too drunk at Freedom Moves to even care.

As of right now, if everything goes well, the motor should be going into the car the weekend of September 25th and 26th, so hopefully it'll be hitting the streets shortly thereafter.

Teku18
09-07-2010, 07:37 PM
I am trying to find a small one hight wise so I don't have to cut the support. I don't care what anyone says I am not doing it. I will still be daily driving my car. If anything tho I could just get custom mounts made all I need is the core so thanks for the link.

thefro526
09-08-2010, 07:12 AM
I am trying to find a small one hight wise so I don't have to cut the support. I don't care what anyone says I am not doing it. I will still be daily driving my car. If anything tho I could just get custom mounts made all I need is the core so thanks for the link.

There's only one way you can run a mid-mount intercooler without cutting the core support, and I've only seen it done on one car. (Nick's from EliteJDM)

If you're SR or KA (Or any other 4 -cylinder) then you have enough room to run the Intercooler and Radiator in the engine bay (Think Intercooler in factory Rad Location then Radiator 2 inches closer to engine), though you'll have to delete the stock Clutch fan and run Slim Electric Fans to make everything work.

Personally, I would just trim the Radiator Support, but that's just me. The trimming doesn't really weaken the core support by a noticeable amount (Or at least not that I noticed), assuming you put all the original bracing back in place.

Here's some shots of the HMIC mounted with all of the supports back in place.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/dsc_0572.jpg?w=640&h=425

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/dsc_0573.jpg?w=640&h=425

jbretz
09-08-2010, 09:40 AM
installed the pbm high mount kit on my buddies hatch and had to eliminate the hl motors. just stuck em in the upright position and ziptied the hell outta em. Love the quality of pbm **** but wasn't worth it on a street car

thefro526
09-08-2010, 09:58 AM
installed the pbm high mount kit on my buddies hatch and had to eliminate the hl motors. just stuck em in the upright position and ziptied the hell outta em. Love the quality of pbm **** but wasn't worth it on a street car

IMO, I think it's the best IC setup for a street car.

With the HMIC kit, you cut the amount of couplers required from 6 or more to 4, the Bumper Support does not have to be modified or removed, the intercooler is hidden so it doesn't attract unwanted attention, the piping is relatively straight and level for most motors so you don't have to worry about the piping moving around like you would with a front mount, etc etc.

I'd say the elimination of the pop-up function of the headlights is a worthwhile trade for all of that - though, I may be able to make a bracket that will allow me to adjust the angle of the headlights from nearly closed to open by hand. I'll let you know how that goes.

For the record, I'm actually building this as a "Street" car (Or a car for Streeting, same thing really ;)). I'll probably end up driving it at least 3 to 4 days a week like I did when I was KA to keep some miles off the DD.

StylezTA
09-08-2010, 12:06 PM
this is was my mid mount intercooler setup 3-4 years ago. minimal trimming to support. radiator was in stock location. 4 couplers total. I believe pop up motors would have fit as well. Really liked this setup over a front mount setup.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2375000-2375999/2375583_2.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2375000-2375999/2375583_8.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/11/web/2375000-2375999/2375583_12.jpg

thefro526
09-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Mini-Update:

I actually mailed the harnesses out today, so I'm estimating it'll be like two weeks or so until I get them back. (OB, you can stop nagging me about that now)

I'm hoping to put the motor in for the first (and last, for now) time the weekend of the 25th and 26th.

Spininall4s
09-10-2010, 04:47 PM
im watching this build close...love the choices so far. 1jz ftw and that hidden intercooler is a dope approach..might try and use that when i turbo the gs

Teku18
09-10-2010, 06:04 PM
Thanks for the info about the intercooler. Car is coming along nicely. Can't wait to see this with the motor in.

thefro526
09-13-2010, 02:13 PM
im watching this build close...love the choices so far. 1jz ftw and that hidden intercooler is a dope approach..might try and use that when i turbo the gs

Thanks bro. GS300's are rad by the way. Are you just going to build an NA-T or swap in a Turbo 2J?

Thanks for the info about the intercooler. Car is coming along nicely. Can't wait to see this with the motor in.

Thanks! You'll definitely see it since I'm a bit of a meet whore, and I'll probably be driving all of the CL events next year as well.

Mini-Update:

I didn't do a think to the car this weekend except look at it for like 2 seconds and wish it ran so that I could Drive it at Freedom Moves. Oh well, in any case, my Harnesses arrived safely at Tweak'd Performance (Formerly Pheonix Tuning) so they're all paid for and everything. Currently there are two other expedited Harnesses in front of mine, one for an 1JZ FD Rx-7, and another for some other swap, so mine should be getting worked on Wednesday or Thursday meaning that I should have my harnesses back sometime early next week.

Now I just need to start ordering some of the misc parts I need like a TPS, 2JZ water pump, PS lines, and some other random stuff. I'm still hoping to get the motor into the car on the weekend of the 25th and 26th.

Spininall4s
09-13-2010, 06:23 PM
well id like to do the full gte swap but ill get more bang for my buck if i keep the na and turbo. na trannys suck monkey nuts so im just trying to get my wrong fitment on and become a professional pot hole slalomist then save for the gte swap because its just that much more ballin :mrgreen: your motor will be ready to go in no time ..with a turbo upgrade that thing will be steppin'

GOULET
09-13-2010, 06:23 PM
Zerolift kit sounds toight like a toiga. I haven't been payin attention to car **** for sometime I didn't know they made a kit like that. Tech2 is way more right and you gotta send the subframe out or some **** like that?

I can't wait till your twins blow and you go single, you know its bound to happen right lol? You know its a pain in the ass takin off twins when the motor is out the car, let alone in the bay? I did it on a 2j years ago. I took a yuengling induced piss on them when I was done.

thefro526
09-14-2010, 08:16 AM
well id like to do the full gte swap but ill get more bang for my buck if i keep the na and turbo. na trannys suck monkey nuts so im just trying to get my wrong fitment on and become a professional pot hole slalomist then save for the gte swap because its just that much more ballin :mrgreen: your motor will be ready to go in no time ..with a turbo upgrade that thing will be steppin'

I got yah'. I was reading into NA-T setups a while back and it seems like people have really good experiences with Turbo-ing the NA motors even if they are up there in the miles. Btw, what wheels are you gonna be running on the GS?

And the Turbo upgrade will probably come in time, I'm just hoping the stock twins last me for at least a year or so. I don't really want to go single out of the gate because I don't have much (any) experience driving anything high horsepower. The stock twins should be more than enough to get me in and out of trouble for now.

Zerolift kit sounds toight like a toiga. I haven't been payin attention to car **** for sometime I didn't know they made a kit like that. Tech2 is way more right and you gotta send the subframe out or some **** like that?

I can't wait till your twins blow and you go single, you know its bound to happen right lol? You know its a pain in the ass takin off twins when the motor is out the car, let alone in the bay? I did it on a 2j years ago. I took a yuengling induced piss on them when I was done.

Yeah man, the Zerolift kit is pretty rad stuff, I'm a fan of it because there are no chassis modification or anything like that. Zerolift's design has actually been around for about 3 or 4 years now but it wasn't always made by them. They bought the designs from a small company called Ruckus Racing like two years ago and then they revised the manufacturing process to make it more streamlined or something like that. Tech2's kit isn't bad, but it was a bit out of my price range and I think it's overkill.

I hope I don't blow the twins anytime soon, but when I do I'll probably pull the motor out to work on them. I was looking into getting a downpipe and y-pipe for the twins until I found out how much of a nightmare they were to work on.

jesse096
09-14-2010, 11:28 AM
So you can make more power with a single turbo than a twin? (n00b alert)

-Jesse

thefro526
09-15-2010, 11:11 AM
So you can make more power with a single turbo than a twin? (n00b alert)

-Jesse

Yes and no, it's more about turbo size and spec than the amount of turbos.

The stock twins on a 1JZ are CT12's, which are really small turbos. Because of this they spool quickly, but will max out somewhere around 300hp-330hp. Going to a larger single turbo will make more power because it can move more air, but the downside is that it will take longer to spool.

OBEEWON
09-15-2010, 12:10 PM
Twins for life.

jesse096
09-15-2010, 12:16 PM
Yes and no, it's more about turbo size and spec than the amount of turbos.

The stock twins on a 1JZ are CT12's, which are really small turbos. Because of this they spool quickly, but will max out somewhere around 300hp-330hp. Going to a larger single turbo will make more power because it can move more air, but the downside is that it will take longer to spool.

What about staying with the twins but make it a compound setup? Keep one of the stockers for lower RPM, and slap a bigger one on for the upper?

-Jesse

thefro526
09-15-2010, 01:38 PM
Twins for life.

Hell yeah. I've actually been looking into some of the after-market twin options for 1JZ/2JZ's. They're money though. (Mostly Custom)

What about staying with the twins but make it a compound setup? Keep one of the stockers for lower RPM, and slap a bigger one on for the upper?

-Jesse

Some cars are like this from the factory (MKIV Supras, IIRC?) and it's not a bad idea, though it would require a bunch of custom work to do and wouldn't really be worth it.

jesse096
09-15-2010, 08:22 PM
Some cars are like this from the factory (MKIV Supras, IIRC?) and it's not a bad idea, though it would require a bunch of custom work to do and wouldn't really be worth it.

Ah, yeah they are a lot more work, but the torque curve and lack of turbo lag is a big plus...

-Jesse

Spininall4s
09-16-2010, 07:39 PM
i dont believe supras are compound set up..i believe its a sequential set up whereas when you say compound i think diesel and i think of a smaller turbine that spools with the initial exhaust gas and the exhaust gas that the smaller turbine creates it then spools the larger turbo...i could be wrong tho
he explains his compound set up here ...streetfighter ftw

http://youtu.be/y-Me6yWApzY?hd=1

thefro526
09-21-2010, 09:03 AM
i dont believe supras are compound set up..i believe its a sequential set up whereas when you say compound i think diesel and i think of a smaller turbine that spools with the initial exhaust gas and the exhaust gas that the smaller turbine creates it then spools the larger turbo...i could be wrong tho
he explains his compound set up here ...streetfighter ftw

http://youtu.be/y-Me6yWApzY?hd=1

Yeah man, I'm not sure what MKIV Supra's are then. In any case, I'm not doing a compound turbo, ever. Lol - I'm too po' for that.

Oh, and I've done absolutely nothing on the car in the last week. Been too busy with work, school, hanging with friends, etc.

But... My harness is sheduled for delivery today, all of my crap from DriftMotion is due to come in Thursday and Friday and some other random parts should be in this week as well.

Motor might end up in the car this weekend, but I don't know for sure.

JST2KWIK
09-21-2010, 12:11 PM
Are you still selling the 5 speed swap?

thefro526
09-21-2010, 03:29 PM
Are you still selling the 5 speed swap?

Yeah man, I am.

I've just been swamped with life stuff for the last 10 days or so, so working on cars has taken a back burner. If you're in desperate need of it, shoot me a text and I'll see what I can do as far as getting it all together, or if you can wait until the weekend I will make time for you.

Got Insulin?
09-21-2010, 03:56 PM
Ah, yeah they are a lot more work, but the torque curve and lack of turbo lag is a big plus...

-Jesse

Lag is a subjective term. I'm almost sure that 90% of the guys that throw the term around have never experienced real lag (not hitting full spool till, say, 6500 RPM).

Looking good, Froseph. I like the idea of the 1J in the 240.

thefro526
09-21-2010, 05:41 PM
Lag is a subjective term. I'm almost sure that 90% of the guys that throw the term around have never experienced real lag (not hitting full spool till, say, 6500 RPM).

Looking good, Froseph. I like the idea of the 1J in the 240.

I experienced true lag once... It sucked.

My friend's Turbo S2000 doesn't spool until like 6000rpm.

But, for what I want to do with the car, I want full boost on tap as early and for as long as possible, hence 1JZ. Should spool around 3250-3500rpm and carry all the way to the limiter. I'm excited.

Oh, and what's up with everyone calling me Froseph?

JST2KWIK
09-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Yeah man, I am.

I've just been swamped with life stuff for the last 10 days or so, so working on cars has taken a back burner. If you're in desperate need of it, shoot me a text and I'll see what I can do as far as getting it all together, or if you can wait until the weekend I will make time for you.

Ok cool man I had pmed you and posted in the thread but didn't ear back so I was wondering what happened lol. I'll be around this weekend so just do what you gotta do and text me when you're available :mrgreen:

thefro526
10-13-2010, 04:37 PM
So, today after about 3 weeks, I'm finally able to access TST at work since it appears that the Malware/Spyware/Whatever is gone.

Build has been going slow over the last month, every time I turn around I'm buying something I didn't foresee or know I needed. Oh well, thus is life. I think some of you visited my blog since my last update, so I apologize if this is all familiar.

So, about a week after I mailed the harnesses out I got them back, I was happy about how they came out, everything is labeled and all that good stuff, the only thing I've got to do is be intelligent enough to wire a switch for the fuel pump and hook up the converter boxes.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/img_0503.jpg?w=640&h=478

Since then I've just been stacking parts and playing with the motor in my few minutes of spare time in the evenings and on weekends. I've got most of the parts I need to get the motor in the car, I just need to swap out my 1JZ Water pump for a 2JZ unit, which I would do if I could get the damn crank bolt off... Grrr.

Also swapped out my old oil pan for a new one. Upon further review it probably was okay, but I didn't want to risk having problems with the oil pickup:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_0543.jpg?w=640&h=478

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_0542.jpg?w=640&h=478

Over the last week I've been playing with this:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/p_2592_1936_97109eb7-80f4-4f58-97c6-024f0a9dfe5a-e1286883806323.jpeg?w=640&h=479

It's a diagram of my Power Steering System. When doing a 1JZ swap, stock Dual Cam 240 PS lines work perfectly with the 1JZ Power Steering pump, but seeing that I've got a Single Cam Chassis my PS Lines wouldn't work. Did some research into the cost of New OEM lines and it came out to between ~$350 - $450. I figured at that point I may as well just make my own out of AN Fittings and throw a cooler in there too. Estimated price for the whole thing seems to be around $300 + Cost of Cooler and Reservoir, which is right around the cost of Stock Lines... Cool.

I'm also using AN Stuff For My Fuel Lines and Oil Cooler Setup Too. Should End Up being Pretty Cool. I'm looking at Running -10AN Lines for the Oil Cooler (Matches the Block I'm buying) and -6AN Seems to be the correct size for fuel lines, can anyone confirm this?

So, Cool stuff is a happenin'.

Stay Tuned.

Teku18
10-13-2010, 07:08 PM
sounds sick dude. The an lines are going to look good.

StylezTA
10-14-2010, 10:40 AM
So, today after about 3 weeks, I'm finally able to access TST at work since it appears that the Malware/Spyware/Whatever is gone.

Build has been going slow over the last month, every time I turn around I'm buying something I didn't foresee or know I needed. Oh well, thus is life. I think some of you visited my blog since my last update, so I apologize if this is all familiar.

So, about a week after I mailed the harnesses out I got them back, I was happy about how they came out, everything is labeled and all that good stuff, the only thing I've got to do is be intelligent enough to wire a switch for the fuel pump and hook up the converter boxes.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/img_0503.jpg?w=640&h=478

Since then I've just been stacking parts and playing with the motor in my few minutes of spare time in the evenings and on weekends. I've got most of the parts I need to get the motor in the car, I just need to swap out my 1JZ Water pump for a 2JZ unit, which I would do if I could get the damn crank bolt off... Grrr.

Also swapped out my old oil pan for a new one. Upon further review it probably was okay, but I didn't want to risk having problems with the oil pickup:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_0543.jpg?w=640&h=478

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_0542.jpg?w=640&h=478

Over the last week I've been playing with this:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/p_2592_1936_97109eb7-80f4-4f58-97c6-024f0a9dfe5a-e1286883806323.jpeg?w=640&h=479

It's a diagram of my Power Steering System. When doing a 1JZ swap, stock Dual Cam 240 PS lines work perfectly with the 1JZ Power Steering pump, but seeing that I've got a Single Cam Chassis my PS Lines wouldn't work. Did some research into the cost of New OEM lines and it came out to between ~$350 - $450. I figured at that point I may as well just make my own out of AN Fittings and throw a cooler in there too. Estimated price for the whole thing seems to be around $300 + Cost of Cooler and Reservoir, which is right around the cost of Stock Lines... Cool.

I'm also using AN Stuff For My Fuel Lines and Oil Cooler Setup Too. Should End Up being Pretty Cool. I'm looking at Running -10AN Lines for the Oil Cooler (Matches the Block I'm buying) and -6AN Seems to be the correct size for fuel lines, can anyone confirm this?

So, Cool stuff is a happenin'.

Stay Tuned.

you realize that dual cam power steering lines are $100 shipped at most right?

telopyros
10-14-2010, 11:01 AM
nice i like the idea of the 1jz, its different!

thefro526
10-14-2010, 04:53 PM
you realize that dual cam power steering lines are $100 shipped at most right?

Huh, no they're not?

Are you sure you're talking about all the PS lines and not just the high pressure line? I need all of them; High Pressure, Low Pressure Return from the pump to the Reservoir, Pump feed from the Reservoir, and the Reservoir itself.

This is what I'm talking about:

http://www.frsport.com/Genuine-OEM-1991-1994-Nissan-240SX-DOHC-Complete-Power-Steering-Lines_p_1142.html < $324.95

http://www.enjukuracing.com/dohc-power-steering-line-p-7093.html < $339.99

http://www.courtesyparts.com/49710r-hose-tube-set-power-steering-240sx-s13-07/1990-12/1991-fb2wsdohc-cdohc-12/1991-fb2wsdohc-fedcfedcv-p-71780.html?cPath=1418_1419_1524_1531& < $325.66

And none of those include the Reservoir, which is anywhere from $10-$100 depending on condition and where it's from.

Pretty sure your $100 part is just the High Pressure line.

nice i like the idea of the 1jz, its different!

Thanks, I like to think a 1jz is Different, but I'm pretty sure there is no such thing as a "Different" motor swap in a 240 anymore.

StylezTA
10-14-2010, 06:54 PM
its pretty easy... zilvia.net.... wanted section. Type in WTB: Dual Cam Power Steering Lines

wait 2-3 hours

get 3 responses saying 100 shipped at most.

i sold a set to john fry like 4 months ago for 90. he gave me 100 for being so fast.

I have no clue why anyone would waste the money for NEW power steering lines when used... is just the same ****. i have bought 3 sets this way. But if u wanna pay 300 bucks to have braided line go for it. i even got a 240 that i am selling that has a cooler on it that was added off i believe a supra in the fender well with rubber lines going to it. works great.

thefro526
10-14-2010, 08:46 PM
its pretty easy... zilvia.net.... wanted section. Type in WTB: Dual Cam Power Steering Lines

wait 2-3 hours

get 3 responses saying 100 shipped at most.

i sold a set to john fry like 4 months ago for 90. he gave me 100 for being so fast.

I have no clue why anyone would waste the money for NEW power steering lines when used... is just the same ****. i have bought 3 sets this way. But if u wanna pay 300 bucks to have braided line go for it. i even got a 240 that i am selling that has a cooler on it that was added off i believe a supra in the fender well with rubber lines going to it. works great.

I'm not really up for buying used power steering lines.

Personally I hate dealing with the fittings on the OEM lines, and I'd much rather make my own lines than by some that are used. I know I could probably do it for cheaper, but considering that I'm planning on running a 10" wide wheel or more up front I need a cooler and the AN fittings make it easier. Also, 1JZ Power Steering Pumps are notorious for doing weird things at higher RPM's so I'm just trying to play it safe.

Also, AN Lines are baller, Therefore I am a Baller.

c0nfl1kt
10-14-2010, 08:49 PM
Needs less low

Needs less fro.

StylezTA
10-15-2010, 09:56 AM
I'm not really up for buying used power steering lines.

Personally I hate dealing with the fittings on the OEM lines, and I'd much rather make my own lines than by some that are used. I know I could probably do it for cheaper, but considering that I'm planning on running a 10" wide wheel or more up front I need a cooler and the AN fittings make it easier. Also, 1JZ Power Steering Pumps are notorious for doing weird things at higher RPM's so I'm just trying to play it safe.

Also, AN Lines are baller, Therefore I am a Baller.

If you have money to waste to be a "baller". Go for it. The OEM's would work just fine =)

Foolinaround
10-15-2010, 01:36 PM
Hmm,lines that you know are brand new,or used lines that could go on fire up.

StylezTA
10-15-2010, 02:05 PM
Hmm,lines that you know are brand new,or used lines that could go on fire up.

what? LOL.

Foolinaround
10-15-2010, 02:11 PM
I see people come in regularly who get "used" lines from a yard,and they burst. whether they are just the high pressure,return,or if its a liquid line with the valve in it. If he isnt cutting corners on this,why would he chince out on lines?

Plus he already explained his need to run his own routing of lines.

StylezTA
10-15-2010, 02:14 PM
Taken to PM so we don't **** fro's thread up.

thefro526
10-15-2010, 06:59 PM
Taken to PM so we don't **** fro's thread up.

You guys don't have to take it to PM.

Foolin' is always welcome in my thread.

Foolinaround
10-15-2010, 09:34 PM
The big misunderstanding was when i said burst,he assumed i mean the steel 240 lines,because i work in the industry ive seen all kinds of lines,so it was a generality.

Its always better to buy new then do used on a big build like this,especially the need for customization for the 1jz. If you are putting another nismo motor in there thats one thing(sr,rb,vg,vq) but to do an outside the company engine,its nice to run the lines how you want incase you run into spacing later on.

thefro526
10-17-2010, 10:28 AM
Foolin',

Oddly enough, the OEM Dual Cam lines actually work perfectly with a 1JZ. The pump is in the same place as it would be on a KA or SR so the lines bolt right up, same threads and everything.

The real reason I'm making my own lines is just so that I know the condition of them from day one. Hopefully they should last me a good while even if I am running a 10"+ wide tire up front. Also, I need to run a cooler in the system so that I don't run the risk of boiling the PS fluid if I decide to be awesome and hot lap like crazy.

Oh, and OEM rubber lines are ugly and dumb

Foolinaround
10-17-2010, 11:37 AM
Foolin',

Oddly enough, the OEM Dual Cam lines actually work perfectly with a 1JZ. The pump is in the same place as it would be on a KA or SR so the lines bolt right up, same threads and everything.

The real reason I'm making my own lines is just so that I know the condition of them from day one. Hopefully they should last me a good while even if I am running a 10"+ wide tire up front. Also, I need to run a cooler in the system so that I don't run the risk of boiling the PS fluid if I decide to be awesome and hot lap like crazy.

Oh, and OEM rubber lines are ugly and dumb

What i figured in bold.

thefro526
10-18-2010, 09:01 AM
What i figured in bold.

You know me all too well Foolin'.

(By the way, sorry if there were any grammar mistakes in the last few posts or if they didn't make sense or something. I was a little intoxicated when I was posting this weekend...)

sean3
10-18-2010, 09:53 AM
You know me all too well Foolin'.

(By the way, sorry if there were any grammar mistakes in the last few posts or if they didn't make sense or something. I was a little intoxicated when I was posting this weekend...)

I could read them all, you didn't drink enough :banned:

Foolinaround
10-18-2010, 03:21 PM
I could read them all, you didn't drink enough :banned:

QFT,im actually excited for this,what are your plans with the car when its done?

denmah
10-18-2010, 03:43 PM
Needs less fro.

are you really a girl with an 85gt...

if so do you want to get married?

thefro526
10-18-2010, 06:26 PM
QFT,im actually excited for this,what are your plans with the car when its done?

1) Look Cool

2) Acquire Groupies

3) Drive A low Car

4) Drift.

are you really a girl with an 85gt...

if so do you want to get married?

Did you just propose in my thread?

Cool.

Foolinaround
10-18-2010, 06:30 PM
The bottom one is what i like to hear.

And Acquire mad slutty groupies* fixed

thefro526
11-03-2010, 04:06 PM
Just realized that I haven't updated this thing in forever.

Yeah, so lately I've been pretty anti-cars and stuff so I haven't had much motivation to really put any serious work into this project. Somehow every time I do anything with the 240 or the 1J I end up hitting a snag because I need a part or a bolt is stuck or some random crap like that.

But, I did manage to make this cool tool to get the crank bolt loose. For some reason crank bolts on both 1JZ's and 2JZ's like to seize and not want to come off after 10 years or so.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/img_0578.jpg?w=640&h=478

So yeah, that's the tool I made, it's basically a big wrench that bolts to the crank pulley to keep the crank from spinning while you hit the motor with a Breaker bar or whatever you see fit. If anyone would like to use it, or have one made for their own personal stuff just hit me up.

Other than that, the build has been pretty slow and I don't take many pictures anymore. Currently the motor is in like 500 pieces because I'm attempting to remove the water pump. One of the nuts that holds a coolant line to the water pump housing seized and then stripped so it's sort of stuck. (Nut was about .5" away from the exhaust manifold so I'm assuming the heat seized it) Luckily, I managed to find a new coolant line on eBay last night, so hopefully that'll be here soon.

This weekend I want to get as much of the motor I can back together, which should be just about everything except the coolant hard line and the timing covers. (which I haven't been able to source yet) I've also got to find the time to pull the front and rear sub frames out for Powder Coat. I wanted to knock that out yesterday but I slept instead...

:D

Honduh
11-03-2010, 05:29 PM
LOl i feel you man. I spent all summer saying, "fcuk it, too damn hot to work on the car". Now im trying to get as much done before it gets too damn cold to work on the car!

OutToWinPAHC
11-03-2010, 05:52 PM
Damn dusty, not in yet. I know you don't work hard at work :) you should have plenty of energy lol. Just playing, good to see an update.

OBEEWON
11-03-2010, 05:53 PM
Just give me that motor. You dont want it.

Foolinaround
11-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Just give me that motor. You dont want it.

We can fit in the the deuce.

OutToWinPAHC
11-03-2010, 10:07 PM
if not we put it in the trunk

Foolinaround
11-03-2010, 10:29 PM
Totally put it right in the frunk <3, Ill let you drive it,afro on the hood too,big sticker.

thefro526
11-04-2010, 10:10 AM
LOl i feel you man. I spent all summer saying, "fcuk it, too damn hot to work on the car". Now im trying to get as much done before it gets too damn cold to work on the car!

Yeah man. My problem was that I didn't get cracking on this thing until late August and then school started so now it sucks between the weather and lack of time. My current goal is to get the motor in by or on Thanksgiving weekend so then at least everything I need to do will be small little wrap up tasks.

Damn dusty, not in yet. I know you don't work hard at work :) you should have plenty of energy lol. Just playing, good to see an update.

WHOA! Who said you can call me Dusty?

Haha, just playing. And you know my job likes to work us until there's nothing left and then ask us for more. :P

Just give me that motor. You dont want it.

Give me your wheels. <3

Seriously though, I need to Wheel Talk with you one of these days.

Totally put it right in the frunk <3, Ill let you drive it,afro on the hood too,big sticker.

I love you Foolin.

thefro526
11-08-2010, 11:28 AM
Actually worked on my motor for like 2 hours on Sunday before my back started to be all stupid again. (Going to the Chiro again tonight...)

I managed to get the old water pipe out since it was kinked to hell and everything and then once I got that out removing the rear half of the water pump was a breeze. From there I installed my new 2JZ water pump and threw a new timing belt on as well.

Feels so good to actually be reassembling stuff.

Hopefully I'll get the chance to mess with both the motor and the car throughout the week, but it all depends on how well my back feels and how dark/cold it gets.

OBEEWON
11-09-2010, 09:19 AM
Yo, text me. I lost all my numbers.

thefro526
11-09-2010, 09:28 AM
Yo, text me. I lost all my numbers.

Done.

You gon' try to sell me some wheels?

I hope so.

Qwibby
11-09-2010, 10:45 AM
I just read this post from beginning to end, I approve and am anxiously awaiting completion!

thefro526
11-09-2010, 11:57 AM
I just read this post from beginning to end, I approve and am anxiously awaiting completion!

You and me both.

I'm tired of not being able to do cool burnouts.

Honduh
11-09-2010, 12:26 PM
Feels so good to actually be reassembling stuff.


I'm almost at the point to where I'm done taking stuff apart and about to put back together! I know the feeling! :supz:

thefro526
11-15-2010, 09:29 AM
So, I Called out of work on Friday since I knew the weather was going to be amazing and figured it’d be the perfect opportunity to work on the S13. Pulled the sub frame out in just over an hour and then went over to EliteJDM to kick it with Nick and pick up some stuff.

I picked up my Radiator which wasn’t really anything special, just a Mishimoto Aluminum one (Nick Stocks both S13 and S14 Radiators so if you’re ever in a crunch you can get it same day), but what I did get that I was excited about was a Power Steering Reservoir. Apparently Super-Hicas equiped cars both here and overseas were equiped with a larger PS Reservoir than a non-Hicas Car. I’ve yet to take a measurement, but I’d venture to say that the Hicas Res is about 50% larger than a Standard Unit but still uses the DOHC Stock mounting location.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/dsc_0041.jpg?w=640&h=425

Sunday I got up and did a little tool shopping and then came home and got cracking on my sub frame. 3 Hours later I had all of the bushings and sleeves out – it’s really not as bad as I assumed it would be.

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/dsc_0018.jpg?w=640&h=425

Gotta order parts and **** this week, but in the meantime I’m off to go draw stuff at work.

thefro526
11-16-2010, 08:56 AM
Finally got my new coolant hard line yesterday after it was stuck in the mail coming from Canada. Ordered and oil filter relocation kit and $700 in AN Fittings as well so hopefully they'll trickle in later on this week too.

Hopefully I'll be able to get the motor back together and ready to go into the car for Thanksgiving weekend. I'm considering putting the motor in from the bottom though I don't have any first hand experience with doing this without a lift. I'm figuring that I should be able to get away with rolling the motor bolted to the Crossmember under the car and lowering the car until the Crossmember Bolts line up. Thoughts?

Finally feels like the end is in sight.

thefro526
11-24-2010, 12:08 AM
So, like usual I haven't worked on the car much lately, though I have gotten a few parts in.

Powered By Max Oil Filter Relocation Kit:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/p_2592_1936_97732e2b-907c-445f-9f49-fc615fd85c86.jpeg?w=640

Had a Nipple Machined so that I could bolt the Oil Adapter Directly to the block and eliminate stock cooler (More info on my blog if you need one made):

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/img_0625.jpg?w=640&h=478

Also got my AN Fittings in for my Oil Cooler, Power Steering and Fuel Lines:

http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/dsc_0019.jpg?w=640&h=425

Tomorrow I need to order a few more things like Heat Exchangers for the Oil and Power Steering Coolers, a Tool to flare hard lines for AN Fittings, more stuff from PBM and a few other odds and ends.

Now I just gotta find some time to work on this darn car, maybe this weekend?

OBEEWON
11-24-2010, 09:49 AM
Oh man. AN stuff is cool and stuff.

thefro526
11-24-2010, 10:22 AM
Oh man. AN stuff is cool and stuff.

Thanks bud.

I just hope my engine bay doesn't end up looking all NASCAR and stuff.

This ain't no race car.

Foolinaround
11-25-2010, 08:25 PM
Fro is that dude,especially for bonding on some yota and nismo love. No sr no rb no Ls, all jz

Got Insulin?
11-28-2010, 09:59 PM
Your plate should be "1JZNOSHI" haha

thefro526
11-28-2010, 10:45 PM
Your plate should be "1JZNOSHI" haha

I think max characters on an NJ plate is 7.

If I get anything it's going to be TheFro.

But I don't want the feds remembering my plate and stuff.

thefro526
12-28-2010, 09:29 AM
Haven't updated this thing in forever.

Haven't actually worked on the car since like November... Been too cold.

Did get this done though:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs002.snc6/165269_472598277692_601157692_6281951_2714506_n.jp g

Powder Coated Subframe. Cool.

OutToWinPAHC
12-28-2010, 10:20 AM
So.... I am looking onto a 1J now, but not for a 240. I'm interested in the fitting you use.

thefro526
12-28-2010, 10:38 AM
So.... I am looking onto a 1J now, but not for a 240. I'm interested in the fitting you use.

I think I know what it's for...

Which fittings are you curious about?

OutToWinPAHC
12-28-2010, 10:42 AM
I'll have to see when I get there, it will be the VVT-i version, I will need a MK3 oil pan though. Pricing up mounting solutions, and the details now.

thefro526
12-28-2010, 10:54 AM
I'll have to see when I get there, it will be the VVT-i version, I will need a MK3 oil pan though. Pricing up mounting solutions, and the details now.

Shoot me a PM if you need any help and you want to keep the info off the net.

IIRC, if you get a 1JZ out of a newer Soarer, it'll have the Mid/Rear Sump pan that is essentially identical to the MKIII Pan. (To my knowledge, the pans are the same)

motorvated
12-28-2010, 11:22 AM
Awesome Fro! Im pretty excited to see how this ends up..if anybody builds a 240 properly, its gotta be you!

OBEEWON
12-28-2010, 05:11 PM
This fool building racecars and stuff. sheesh!

How we gonna fit that fro under a helmet Ted? WE GOTZ NO CORNROWZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yo you better have this car done for the fast and furious premier. I plan to do a burn out in the lobby of the Regal and ghost ride my pants.

thefro526
12-28-2010, 05:34 PM
This fool building racecars and stuff. sheesh!

How we gonna fit that fro under a helmet Ted? WE GOTZ NO CORNROWZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yo you better have this car done for the fast and furious premier. I plan to do a burn out in the lobby of the Regal and ghost ride my pants.

Whoa, I ain't building no Race Car. This thing's gon have registration, insurance and an inspection sticker so I can drive it to meets and do angry burnouts.

I'll def be done for the F&F Premier.

We can do tandem JZ burnouts through the theatre while winking at ladies and ghost riding our trousers.

jesse096
12-28-2010, 08:00 PM
We can do tandem JZ burnouts through the theatre while winking at ladies and ghost riding our trousers.

Sig'd...

-Jesse

OBEEWON
02-23-2011, 09:12 AM
Just a question regarding your existence Fro. Is you dead son?

Foolinaround
02-23-2011, 12:36 PM
No,its robotics time again,he'll be back soon.

JohnnyDrifter22
02-23-2011, 12:54 PM
hey check out Zilvia, some dude selling nice IJ stuff for not bad prices. hes in MD too

thefro526
03-18-2011, 10:20 AM
OH CRAP.

I'm not dead.

Car sucks though.

Someone find me some 1JZ Timing covers and I'll pay you a finders fee. I need upper and lower.

<3.

BrandonW
03-18-2011, 08:12 PM
post on supramania and supraforums im sure you would find them in no time

thefro526
03-21-2011, 05:07 PM
post on supramania and supraforums im sure you would find them in no time

I try to stay away from the Supra Boards if I can. I dunno what it is, but they're just not for me.

I actually just found some dude in FL with the parts I need, so I'm just waiting for him to send me some pictures.

empera
03-22-2011, 04:49 PM
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n240/emp526/imagejpeg_2_7.jpg

$50shipped

InvisibleMonkey
03-22-2011, 04:52 PM
Is that off my old 1jz?

empera
03-22-2011, 05:14 PM
no. these are from a buddy, reason why they must be shipped

InvisibleMonkey
03-22-2011, 05:15 PM
Aww. Would've been cool to see parts from my car go to another friend.

thefro526
03-24-2011, 08:57 AM
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n240/emp526/imagejpeg_2_7.jpg

$50shipped

Empera, let's make this happen.

Can pick them up from you, since your location says Philly? PM me.

OBEEWON
03-24-2011, 11:41 AM
Dustin.

The time for macking hood rats has come. Finish up and meet me on south street.

thefro526
06-08-2011, 09:15 AM
http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_0863.jpg?w=640&h=478

Long Block needs another 3 or 4 hours of work before it's ready to go in the car.

Might actually run eventually.

Maybe.

OBEEWON
06-08-2011, 09:56 AM
Are those Apexi coils under there?

thefro526
06-08-2011, 10:06 AM
Are those Apexi coils under there?

The Struts with the red springs? I have no idea what they are, they're off John Michael's bubble hatch.

Honduh
06-08-2011, 10:53 AM
Whose car will run first, yours or mine?

Foolinaround
06-08-2011, 10:54 AM
Wow froboy,Talk about missing projected deadlines,then again,I have no room to talk.

thefro526
06-08-2011, 10:55 AM
Whose car will run first, yours or mine?

Not sure, probably yours since I'm lazy.

thefro526
06-08-2011, 10:59 AM
Wow froboy,Talk about missing projected deadlines,then again,I have no room to talk.

At least I didn't leave the State and buy a Fit.

Too Soon? <3

Foolinaround
06-08-2011, 10:13 PM
Damn that hurts. Miss you my brotha of anotha culla

thefro526
06-16-2011, 08:44 AM
http://thefro526.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_08651.jpg?w=640&h=478

Yay.

InvisibleMonkey
06-16-2011, 05:04 PM
progress woop woop!

slipkornvayne
06-17-2011, 02:05 AM
if you ever wanna sell the sohc lemme kno