muscle cars anyone ?

[MotorCity1992]

anyone else out there got any old muscle ...or am i the only loser around here to have one ?

[doug]

got this in storage.. should be out this spring/summer. original numbers matching Z/28 40,000 original miles, 4speed DZ302.. it doesn't see the road often.. but i hope to put a few hundred miles on it this season.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2192/52/15/9368996/n9368996_54763422_8800.jpg

[Rodimus_Prime]

What do you consider "old" I have a 89 Turbo Trans Am

[MotorCity1992]

well i guess thats a bit newer i was talking like 73 and back lol i mean til 1980 the styles were tolerable but i think most of the makers did bad after 73... just my opinion my uncle has a 89 trans am and i love it ...just not as much as the older cars

[jpalamar]

I'm a new muscle guy for the simple fact that they drive that much nicer. But I do always appreciate and old school car though.

[MotorCity1992]

yeah i kno wat u mean i just like the rawness of the oldschool cars

[Scapegoat]

yeah i kno wat u mean i just like the rawness of the oldschool cars

theres nothing like the smell of unspent fuel and burning rubber... i love old school muscle. but i also love new school

[Rocket!]

I got a few 71 maverick grabber and a 73 pinto wagon

[Streetracer1227]

got this in storage.. should be out this spring/summer. original numbers matching Z/28 40,000 original miles, 4speed DZ302.. it doesn't see the road often.. but i hope to put a few hundred miles on it this season.

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2192/52/15/9368996/n9368996_54763422_8800.jpg

god i hate you so much right now lol

our fleet old and new:
My 94 TA and my recent purchase, 81 Malibu
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/StreetRacer1227/TransAm001.jpg
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/StreetRacer1227/022-1.jpg

Dads 96 Formula and 68 Camaro
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/StreetRacer1227/004.jpg
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu247/StreetRacer1227/001.jpg

[SStreet King]

ii got new muscle.. 96 Impala SS and my dads got a 08 SRT8 Charger. Hes also got a four door 1964 Buick electra 225... not muscle but old school

[doug]

that 68 camaro looks B/A.. oh and don't hate.. appreciate! haha.

[rturbo 930]

I don't personally have one... but my dad is the original owner of a '68 Charger R/T... FWIW... prolly nothing.

[SleeperGoat]

I'm building an 84 Camaro lol its not OLD OLD school but its Carbed like a Muscle car. Plus the motor big enough to make up for it not being a 60's lol.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JCamaro84z/untitled-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/JCamaro84z/IMAGE_009.jpg

[JB'sLGT]

still hibernating in my garage waiting for the nice weather :)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b209/jjbhoops/Judge/gto.jpg?t=1268502022

[delphinE30]

no pics yet and idk if ill ever have any...but i got a 68 camaro RS. completely original. well i guess its cammed and rollin on cragars. hopefully it will be out this summer. doubtful

[Sublime1304]

i like the new school more but if given the opportunity to drive an old muscle car then im down with that. my collects and sells these cars all the time. right now he has a '69 LeMans blue Chevelle convertible and a '70 Chevelle in red with black stripes. Both are all original with low miles and matching numbers and both are SS396 cars. i drive the '70 sometimes. He has an'09 Challenger Classic R/T in B5 Blue too. The'69 is a keeper for a long time

Going back to when i was younger, he had a '69 Camaro pro street car. ran in the 10's. We had a '63 Nova pro street car too that ran 10:50 once. We've had a '69 Camaro Pace Car, a '68 Chevelle in gold. All of these cars were original with matching numbers

[Streetracer1227]

i like the new school more but if given the opportunity to drive an old muscle car then im down with that. my collects and sells these cars all the time. right now he has a '69 LeMans blue Chevelle convertible and a '70 Chevelle in red with black stripes. Both are all original with low miles and matching numbers and both are SS396 cars. i drive the '70 sometimes. He has an'09 Challenger Classic R/T in B5 Blue too. The'69 is a keeper for a long time

Going back to when i was younger, he had a '69 Camaro pro street car. ran in the 10's. We had a '63 Nova pro street car too that ran 10:50 once. We've had a '69 Camaro Pace Car, a '68 Chevelle in gold. All of these cars were original with matching numbers

kinda sounds like my dad too...when i was younger, he had the camaro (the current one in my pic above), plus a 68 chevelle ss convertible, 396/325 hp, 4 speed, bench seat (buick interior from the factory, a rare combo), maroon with white nose stripe. he also had a 64 vette coupe, 327/365 hp, 4 speed, red on black, all original unrestored....learned to drive stick in that car

[MotorCity1992]

still hibernating in my garage waiting for the nice weather :)

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b209/jjbhoops/Judge/gto.jpg?t=1268502022

holy heck that judge must b a fricken beast lol

[JB'sLGT]

nah not really...it's all original down to the original q-jet...it was quick for its day, but it's hard to call something quick anymore when you have suvs running 12s straight off the showroom floor

[mckpat03]

got this in storage.. should be out this spring/summer. original numbers matching Z/28 40,000 original miles, 4speed DZ302..

Jealous.

[HickRocket1258]

I have my 85 Z28 which isn't that old, and isn't that quick haha. Then there's also my dad's camaro which is a totally different story haha.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/Camaroracer1258/camaro69_inthegrassr1.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/Camaroracer1258/camaro69_cage.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/Camaroracer1258/camaro2.jpg
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/Camaroracer1258/camaro1.jpg

[Scapegoat]

I have my 85 Z28 which isn't that old, and isn't that quick haha. Then there's also my dad's camaro which is a totally different story haha.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/Camaroracer1258/camaro69_inthegrassr1.jpg

want a ride... WANT!

[Streetracer1227]

i dont recall ever seeing the 69 rob

[devildog214]

i got an 87 monte SS, worked a couple weeks at a bodyshop helping to restore it. Stock 305 with a few bolt ons, not trying for 11s or anything, just a good dd with some balls to it. Possible engine swap down the road when i get some cash together.

[driftingrx5.7]

88 mazda rx7 thats right a mazda rx7 thats muscle especially when you put a v8 in it ;)

[HickRocket1258]

i dont recall ever seeing the 69 rob

We have had it since 2007 I want to say in the winter time. Had the chassis redone and other things as well by Larry King Race Cars. Guy is very particular on his work but takes awhile at times. After that being in the shop for probably 10 months, got it back, and have only had about 15-20 passes on the thing total. ZZ572 crate motor on alcohol with a 1050 Carb on it. Best pass to date was at Cecil, 8.76, and at Maple 8.86. Just got converter tightened because my dad said it was launching too soft.

Here's another one of my dad's toys.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/Camaroracer1258/Pickupholiday2.jpg

[Streetracer1227]

chassis work looks good in pictures, prob looks better in person

im prob gonna have ed quay race cars do the cage for my malibu, only because they did the camaro and they did really nice work on it

[HickRocket1258]

The chassis work in the beginning was done pretty well. Big problem was the guy was 5'7 or so, and well shortest one out of my dad, brother and I is 6'1, so we had to get our guy to lower the floor and move back the seat some. Relocation of the fuel cell as well and a few other ods and ends. We are going to be at the Pinks All Out with his and possibly my camaro.

[Streetracer1227]

cool...we'll be there with the old mans car, the malibu wont be done

[TJs98GT]

no more old school muscle cars for me anymore but i plan on having some in the future, got one on my arm though in a sleeve.....lol


i had a 71 Buick Skylark....then an 89 formula 350 and an 88 formula 350. now i just have my mustang for a muscle car. which i love :)

i will def be looking to start a new project though once i get into a house in a year or 2

[HickRocket1258]

no more old school muscle cars for me anymore but i plan on having some in the future, got one on my arm though in a sleeve.....lol


i had a 71 Buick Skylark....then an 89 formula 350 and an 88 formula 350. now i just have my mustang for a muscle car. which i love :)

i will def be looking to start a new project though once i get into a house in a year or 2

Same here TJ. I'll be looking for one after I get a house in a couple years.

[Civic_SSdan]

idk if it counts but i got a 96 impala ss
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i21/dand522/blackerthenblack.jpg

[Showoff03LS]

What do you consider "old" I have a 89 Turbo Trans Am

cars under 1980 , but to be real technical anything under 1975 is old.


all i got to is my 79 Ranchero.

[MotorCity1992]

yo guys we gotta get a thing together for a muscle car cruise dude or something maybe a meet up down at the sonic thing fricken awsome cars tho . lol there is a 71 skylark accross the street from my grand parents running ...but needs some body work ...guy prolly sell it for 700 bucks...its an original 4 barrel carb too......air shocks ..it needs tlc but would be a cool project

[doug]

i have 4.10's in my Z/28 and it's absolutely brutal cruising on the highway in that thing with the 4 speed, and it only has 42k original miles on the clock.. so sonic is really out of my range.. but i am down for a more local muscle car meet whenever.

[Showoff03LS]

if i didnt already have my Ranchero id try to get that skylark

[SleeperGoat]

I agree with doug when the camaro's back on the road it wont be a cruiser let alone have anything in the double digits for gas mileage.

[Scapegoat]

i have 4.10's in my Z/28 and it's absolutely brutal cruising on the highway in that thing with the 4 speed, and it only has 42k original miles on the clock.. so sonic is really out of my range.. but i am down for a more local muscle car meet whenever.

pussy

[doug]

pussy

this coming from the guy with the baby blue mustang, has the girlfriend let you drive it yet? ouch.. :wink:

but in all seriousness, it's not a comfort thing.. it's a gas situation thing. at highway speeds with that gearing, it just chews through gas.. the revs are stupid high in 4th when just cruising. gas prices are too ridiculous to be making cruises to sonic in that thing. that's what i have the sti for.. and that's what i'll be bringing to the next sonic meet.. ha.

[jpalamar]

this coming from the guy with the baby blue mustang, has the girlfriend let you drive it yet? ouch.. :wink:

but in all seriousness, it's not a comfort thing.. it's a gas situation thing. at highway speeds with that gearing, it just chews through gas.. the revs are stupid high in 4th when just cruising. gas prices are too ridiculous to be making cruises to sonic in that thing. that's what i have the sti for.. and that's what i'll be bringing to the next sonic meet.. ha.

Whats the point of owning it then:-p

[doug]

Whats the point of owning it then:-p

i cruise it around when the weather is agreeable, i just avoid prolonged highway trips with it.. that's all. i'd rather cruise around town and back roads.. therefore, if you guys want to meet up a little more local, i am down to get a sweet muscle car meet going. something like exton, KOP, west chester or do up another ridley creek park meet.

[Scapegoat]

this coming from the guy with the baby blue mustang, has the girlfriend let you drive it yet? ouch.. :wink:

but in all seriousness, it's not a comfort thing.. it's a gas situation thing. at highway speeds with that gearing, it just chews through gas.. the revs are stupid high in 4th when just cruising. gas prices are too ridiculous to be making cruises to sonic in that thing. that's what i have the sti for.. and that's what i'll be bringing to the next sonic meet.. ha.

gas prices is your excuse? you know they're not going to get better. you're doing such a fine piece of machinery a disservice by not driving it b/c of gas prices

[doug]

gas prices is your excuse? you know they're not going to get better. you're doing such a fine piece of machinery a disservice by not driving it b/c of gas prices

i guess reading comprehension isn't your strongest point.. i said i avoid long highway rides in it, that's all. morgantown sonic = long highway ride. i drive it through delco whenever i get the free time to do so. went for a gloomy cruise yesterday around town for a couple hours before it started raining so, i still don't see where i ever stated i don't drive the car. i just keep it to the local meets/car shows, i consider that common sense more than anything. if you'd like to paypal me some money for gas and the bottles of lead additive, i'll give you my paypal address.

[HickRocket1258]

this coming from the guy with the baby blue mustang, has the girlfriend let you drive it yet? ouch.. :wink:

but in all seriousness, it's not a comfort thing.. it's a gas situation thing. at highway speeds with that gearing, it just chews through gas.. the revs are stupid high in 4th when just cruising. gas prices are too ridiculous to be making cruises to sonic in that thing. that's what i have the sti for.. and that's what i'll be bringing to the next sonic meet.. ha.

Doug, I'm with you. My camaro with the 383...oops, I mean 350 hahaha, has 3.90 gears and that thing would be hanging up there in the rpms and I'd be worried about highway. No power steering as well.

[doug]

yeah i bet rob, no power steering on mine either. not a fan of leaving a 41 year old engine block revving at 5000 rpm for extended periods of time either.. haha. i still need to see your camaro so we'll see if we can assemble a more local muscle car meet soon!

[Showoff03LS]

im thinking of trading up my Ranchero and Regal for a 53 Olds 4door

[ViRuS]

what kinda regal?

[Showoff03LS]

a 91 coupe , i actuly just sold it

[MotorCity1992]

yeah i bet rob, no power steering on mine either. not a fan of leaving a 41 year old engine block revving at 5000 rpm for extended periods of time either.. haha. i still need to see your camaro so we'll see if we can assemble a more local muscle car meet soon!

whats wrong with that ? what r u worried about ? like overheating ?

[doug]

well overheating certainly is an issue, it's more of that it's an unrestored original numbers matching block. and even though the car runs great and is symptom free, father time does has an effect even on the mighty DZ302 :) again, id rather just get in my sti for any extended highway trips to meets or shows.. some may call that a 'disservice' towards my camaro :lol: but i consider it common sense and a responsibility to be taking care of a piece of an era of significant automobile history in the u.s. i hope that answers your question.

[Showoff03LS]

well overheating certainly is an issue, it's more of that it's an unrestored original numbers matching block. and even though the car runs great and is symptom free, father time does has an effect even on the mighty DZ302 :) again, id rather just get in my sti for any extended highway trips to meets or shows.. some may call that a 'disservice' towards my camaro :lol: but i consider it common sense and a responsibility to be taking care of a piece of an era of significant automobile history in the u.s. i hope that answers your question.

sorry, i know ur a mod and all but, your not a hardcore classic car enthusiast. Look at the hot rodders, streetrodders, ratrodders muscel car oweners that drive their cars thousands of miles on 40+ year old orig. motors, especialy Ratrodders that are driving model A's with orig. flatheads and what not in their cars to get to Viva Las Vegas and the guys that drive the hot rod and street rod power tours. get some coolent additive and drive it.

[rturbo 930]

sorry, i know ur a mod and all but, your not a hardcore classic car enthusiast. Look at the hot rodders, streetrodders, ratrodders muscel car oweners that drive their cars thousands of miles on 40+ year old orig. motors, especialy Ratrodders that are driving model A's with orig. flatheads and what not in their cars to get to Viva Las Vegas and the guys that drive the hot rod and street rod power tours. get some coolent additive and drive it.A home built rat rod is NOTHING like a classic, original low miles Camaro in excellent condition. Also, driving an uncomfortable car thousands of miles really isn't a make or break in being a car enthusiast. Some people prefer to take their cars out on a Sunday drive around town. Different strokes for different folks. You need to accept that some people have different preferences, and those preferences don't make a difference as to whether or not they're an enthusiast.

Also, it doesn't really make a difference if he's a mod or not either. He's just like us, but with more power on this forum.

[Showoff03LS]

look at the ratrodders some of those guys are running Bomber seats from WW2 air planes. i get what your sayin , but im a a firm beliver in"driving it till the wheels fall off", but if its something that has 4k orig miles and never been touched AKA a True "survivor" then just do small trips to keep the "juices" flowing, then cool.

[doug]

sorry, i know ur a mod and all but, your not a hardcore classic car enthusiast. Look at the hot rodders, streetrodders, ratrodders muscel car oweners that drive their cars thousands of miles on 40+ year old orig. motors, especialy Ratrodders that are driving model A's with orig. flatheads and what not in their cars to get to Viva Las Vegas and the guys that drive the hot rod and street rod power tours. get some coolent additive and drive it.

look at the ratrodders some of those guys are running Bomber seats from WW2 air planes. i get what your sayin , but im a a firm beliver in"driving it till the wheels fall off", but if its something that has 4k orig miles and never been touched AKA a True "survivor" then just do small trips to keep the "juices" flowing, then cool.

what does being a mod have to do with anything? and who the hell do you think you are, a friend of mine or something? do you know me? do you know anything about what i do, or what i'm into? i don't think you do. never assume, don't be a chump.


A home built rat rod is NOTHING like a classic, original low miles Camaro in excellent condition. Also, driving an uncomfortable car thousands of miles really isn't a make or break in being a car enthusiast. Some people prefer to take their cars out on a Sunday drive around town. Different strokes for different folks. You need to accept that some people have different preferences, and those preferences don't make a difference as to whether or not they're an enthusiast.

Also, it doesn't really make a difference if he's a mod or not either. He's just like us, but with more power on this forum.

thank you. at least someone has some sensibility. i grew up in the car, and its personal value and specialness of it goes beyond its heritage or history. sentimental value is greater than anything. i plan on giving it to my son one day, in just as original condition with ~60,000 miles on it :) and yes.. contrary to popular belief, i may be a moderator.. but i am just like you.

[DPancoast]

oh just drive the damn car on the highway. why would you want to disturb the original miles and decrease the value?! (both centemental and historical) :roll:

[rturbo 930]

thank you. at least someone has some sensibility. i grew up in the car, and its personal value and specialness of it goes beyond its heritage or history. sentimental value is greater than anything. i plan on giving it to my son one day, in just as original condition with ~60,000 miles on it :) and yes.. contrary to popular belief, i may be a moderator.. but i am just like you.I can relate. My dad bought his Charger brand new in 1968. He drove it for a while, and then put it away up until I bugged him to get it going, and he's been working on it ever since (about 2002-2003). I think he took it out exactly once without me with him, on a rainy day, and basically got no where anyhow. It's not original anymore, but he has modified it such that you could put it back to stock (although with a little bit of welding - need to source a patch panel). The original motor is still sitting in my grandmother's barn. Original wheels in the garage, etc.

Needs a pretty extensive refreshing, but it's actually pretty solid for having spent just short of 42 years on the east coast.

Oh - it's got ~55,000 original miles :)

[doug]

oh just drive the damn car on the highway. why would you want to disturb the original miles and decrease the value?! (both centemental and historical) :roll:

haha dpan youre always there to put that smile back on my face.

and rturbo.. good story. does he plan on restoring it?

[rturbo 930]

haha dpan youre always there to put that smile back on my face.

and rturbo.. good story. does he plan on restoring it?Yeah, eventually. It will probably stay modified, and continue to be over the years, but I think he plans to get the rust fixed, and get it painted the original Triple Black at some point. The chrome time pieces need some work, the front bumper is dented, gas cap doesn't latch very well anymore... kinda needs a new trunk floor - no holes, but it's pitted. Don't know what the floor pans are like... there's more, and it all will need to be tended to, and given the cost of all that, it will probably be a while.

Here's a pic of the car. Doesn't look much different now on the outside, engine bay however just got touched up a bit - He's wrapping that project up now.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j89/rturbo930/68%20Dodge%20Charger/DSCF1935.jpg

This is what he just finished installing:

http://www.aandatrans.com/Images/products/RHACRIM.jpg

[MotorCity1992]

oh wow beuatiful piece of mopar there....i can deff understand why guys dont wanna drive the cars with low miles on it......see lol this is why i bought an average run of the mill muscle car with a non original engine in it , because i wanna drive it on long trips an enjoy going everywhere with it ....its just my opinion if u want a muscle car that you want to drive everyday , go buy a non matching numbers average car that you build and drive the heck out of it...that way you still have the piece of history , and you can take it on the highway for long trips and just run the heck out of it, just my opinion , not disagreeing with the other guys, i wouldnt drive it that much either with the low miles and the sentimental value it has to u. sweet cars tho none the less , i think we can agree on that, old cars have some character to them

[driftingrx5.7]

Mustang wheels
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/civiclxb16a/vert%20lt1/S4022765.jpg
old v8 power
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/civiclxb16a/vert%20lt1/carshow3.jpg

new ls1 powered
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n271/civiclxb16a/ls1%20conversion/DSC_0764.jpg
yup i would say muscle car

[HickRocket1258]

yeah i bet rob, no power steering on mine either. not a fan of leaving a 41 year old engine block revving at 5000 rpm for extended periods of time either.. haha. i still need to see your camaro so we'll see if we can assemble a more local muscle car meet soon!

Yeah Doug I would definitely be down. I also have a Turbo 350 in my camaro along with the 3.90s. And I only have one electric fan as well to help cool the stock radiator, so it doesn't do the greatest job at cooling down.

Showoff that was the dumbest excuse I've ever seen man. How could you call us non muscle car enthusiest or whatever it is you said. ****, you can't even get your **** put together at all. Your way of classifying was just horrible. Please refrain yourself from saying something like that again.

[sleeperSL2]

All this muscle car talk has me bugging my dad to get his '73 GTO out and get it moving. he hasnt even started it in 4 years:cry:

[doug]

oh wow beuatiful piece of mopar there....i can deff understand why guys dont wanna drive the cars with low miles on it......see lol this is why i bought an average run of the mill muscle car with a non original engine in it , because i wanna drive it on long trips an enjoy going everywhere with it ....its just my opinion if u want a muscle car that you want to drive everyday , go buy a non matching numbers average car that you build and drive the heck out of it...that way you still have the piece of history , and you can take it on the highway for long trips and just run the heck out of it, just my opinion , not disagreeing with the other guys, i wouldnt drive it that much either with the low miles and the sentimental value it has to u. sweet cars tho none the less , i think we can agree on that, old cars have some character to them

haha.. yeah, i'd love to have something to kick the crap out of at the track and put unlimited miles on it. but i guess some people in this thread (not you) forget that i have an sti to enjoy. if i go a day without being able to drive my sti, it's upsetting haha. i plan in the future after i get settled into a house on picking up a project muscle car.. something unoriginal and not numbers matching.

Yeah Doug I would definitely be down. I also have a Turbo 350 in my camaro along with the 3.90s. And I only have one electric fan as well to help cool the stock radiator, so it doesn't do the greatest job at cooling down.

Showoff that was the dumbest excuse I've ever seen man. How could you call us non muscle car enthusiest or whatever it is you said. ****, you can't even get your **** put together at all. Your way of classifying was just horrible. Please refrain yourself from saying something like that again.

it's not even worth regarding anymore, rob. lol..

All this muscle car talk has me bugging my dad to get his '73 GTO out and get it moving. he hasnt even started it in 4 years:cry:

dooooooo it!

[sleeperSL2]

im workin on it. my mom went through 8 years of seminary school and now me for college...he wants to restore it, although, for original owner, not in bad shape. just a repaint and probably fresh powerwashing to the engine bay..80 degrees this weekend..see what i can do.ill put pictures up if he pulls it out.

[HickRocket1258]

haha.. yeah, i'd love to have something to kick the crap out of at the track and put unlimited miles on it. but i guess some people in this thread (not you) forget that i have an sti to enjoy. if i go a day without being able to drive my sti, it's upsetting haha. i plan in the future after i get settled into a house on picking up a project muscle car.. something unoriginal and not numbers matching.




Oh my god Doug, you and I are pretty much thinking along the same lines with the whole house thing first, then start dumping your money into a project car hahaha.