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cbirgl
02-08-2010, 11:01 PM
Just thought I'd share a few pics while working on getting this clutch done.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o103/sfajk1/100_0057.jpghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o103/sfajk1/100_0053.jpghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o103/sfajk1/100_0051.jpghttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o103/sfajk1/100_0052.jpg

Southbend stage 3 OFE with RS4 pressure plate. Only 2 issues - first being this is second clutch atleast and only 96k on the car (somebody was in there before, previous owners) and second the flywheel uses different bolts than OEM which southbend is having made as I type.

Not an overall bad job coming apart considering it was done in the garage on jack stands.

gtsiawd96
02-09-2010, 09:25 AM
Cool, the biggest pain on those is the heat shields X2 if they are rusted and downpipe flange nuts. That trans isn't that light either.

cbirgl
02-09-2010, 06:37 PM
Only problems for me were some hack overtightened all the bolts and left some out it seems when they last worked on it. The heat shields were no issue - they stay on the turbo and the downpipes slid right out.

But yea that trans is heavy, I hard a hard time holding up the tail section with the jack holding most of the weight.

boost20th
02-16-2010, 10:20 PM
so when do u want to help on mine lol i have the same clutch and im slipping 1st gear off the launch control

cbirgl
02-16-2010, 10:51 PM
It wasn't one of my most fun jobs, but I would probably do it again. I'm not sure how into helping I would be - it is too big of a job. How many miles do you have on yours that it is already slipping?

cbirgl
02-16-2010, 10:52 PM
Guess I never posted more pics either... it is all done now, pedal feel is still good and drives good minus the short shifter being notchy.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o103/sfajk1/100_0067.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o103/sfajk1/100_0069.jpg

boost20th
02-17-2010, 04:05 PM
It wasn't one of my most fun jobs, but I would probably do it again. I'm not sure how into helping I would be - it is too big of a job. How many miles do you have on yours that it is already slipping?

i have a stassis trans and did the stg 3 kit at the saome time so 10k

boost20th
02-17-2010, 04:06 PM
what short shifter did u go with i have a JHM kit

cbirgl
02-17-2010, 06:33 PM
It's not my car it is a customer's car. I don't know the brand of short shifter either. He should be back for k04's and more work in the future though...

Why is your clutch shot at 10k miles? Do you drive it that hard? I am expecting this to last longer than that. Good call on the stasis trans though

TROLL
02-17-2010, 06:41 PM
Nice, thats a pretty nice looking clutch.
I was wondering the weight of the trans since the STi trans is such a beast.

cbirgl
02-17-2010, 06:50 PM
I would want to first guess around the 250 range (I am only 115lbs myself, so it doesn't take much for me to think its heavy) but I think I read online it is only about 180lbs.

I wasn't about to weigh it while out of the car though. The 180lbs. is probably without fluid. The trans is long and awkward though

TROLL
02-17-2010, 06:54 PM
yeah when you have 6 forward gears plus a front and center diff, its pretty serious.

boost20th
02-20-2010, 11:28 AM
It's not my car it is a customer's car. I don't know the brand of short shifter either. He should be back for k04's and more work in the future though...

Why is your clutch shot at 10k miles? Do you drive it that hard? I am expecting this to last longer than that. Good call on the stasis trans though

its not shot it just slips when i launch the car off the 2step, every other gear is fine...and he will be happy with the ko4's i know i am

phil@autospeed
02-21-2010, 12:29 AM
Slipping during launch is probably better than some of the welded-together clutches I've seen, lol. K04's are especially nice with a good tune.

boost20th
02-21-2010, 06:28 PM
Slipping during launch is probably better than some of the welded-together clutches I've seen, lol. K04's are especially nice with a good tune.

k04's are fun :lol::lol:

phil@autospeed
02-21-2010, 06:47 PM
If anyone needs a clutch.. give me the best price u got and lemme see if i can beat it.

gtsiawd96
02-21-2010, 07:05 PM
Nice, thats a pretty nice looking clutch.
I was wondering the weight of the trans since the STi trans is such a beast.

I would guess its probably a bit heavier. The gear housing is iron. While the bell housing and front diff housing is aluminum.

You would not believe how heavy the new S5 6 speed transmission are. Close to 250-300 pounds completely crazy.

cbirgl
02-21-2010, 08:04 PM
It may be heavy, but doesn't compare to the W8 passat automatics or touareg transmissions I've had out...

gtsiawd96
02-21-2010, 09:04 PM
I believe it. The Q7 shares the same trans. I have only taken them out with the engine together on the electric scissor table. So much easier. And the w8 if I'm not mistaken shares the same type of trans as Audi's 4.2 A6's, only 3.0l and the new 3.2l. I haven't had the pleasure of removal yet....haha.

cbirgl
02-21-2010, 09:10 PM
They are known for torque converters... I may be pulling an RS6 automatic transmission out in the future as well :/

gtsiawd96
02-21-2010, 09:14 PM
Haha. We have one right now that needs a new trans. Guy bought it like 3 weeks ago....and now needs a trans. eek.

cbirgl
02-21-2010, 09:18 PM
Nice - I've heard a few of them going out. The one I work on seems strong so far at 68k. If you factor in that lambo's need 10k+ clutch jobs every 10k with the same power output, the rs6 trans works out very nicely.

gtsiawd96
02-21-2010, 09:31 PM
I thought that was the reason they stuck with the auto in the RS6 was the manual clutch/trans couldn't stand up to the torque reliably. I couldn't imagine having to replace my clutch every 10k. Even if I was a millionaire.

cbirgl
02-21-2010, 10:38 PM
Well, the W8 and phaeton had a bad run of torque converters... I was somewhat assuming the same thing for the RS6, there is a bulletin on it but I haven't looked at that in a while.

93EGY8
02-22-2010, 12:08 AM
Chris you bitch a lot.... Lol it's Dustin from work I didn't know you were on here?

phil@autospeed
02-22-2010, 07:17 AM
Chris you bitch a lot.... Lol it's Dustin from work I didn't know you were on here?

Lol... you guys work for VW? Nice, is it busy there? Some of the dealerships here are a lil slow.

cbirgl
02-22-2010, 06:26 PM
Kinda slow right now but it's the nature of the business.

93EGY8
02-22-2010, 07:40 PM
yea its slow but hey thats what you deal with being a flat rate tech lol :)

boost20th
02-22-2010, 09:24 PM
here is a pic of my stasis built trans....http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/turbogetta/stassistrans.jpg

phil@autospeed
02-22-2010, 11:06 PM
I've installed a lot of those in the past. We've offered cryo and rem treated internals with stasis diff for our 3.0L GT's

boost20th
02-22-2010, 11:15 PM
I've installed a lot of those in the past. We've offered cryo and rem treated internals with stasis diff for our 3.0L GT's

just picked up some RS6 turbos just looking for 2.8 heads at this point any laying around the shop

cbirgl
02-22-2010, 11:19 PM
<--- gave up a full 2.8 motor cuz i was too lazy to load it in my truck, this right before the 2.8 head swap became popular :(

boost20th
02-22-2010, 11:26 PM
<--- gave up a full 2.8 motor cuz i was too lazy to load it in my truck, this right before the 2.8 head swap became popular :(

i think i hear some valve tap im hoping its just me but thats why im looking for heads

cbirgl
02-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Why not have the heads rebuilt ? could just be a lifter or something. springs, retainers, exhaust valves and a minor p&p

Actually if you don't plan on going bigger turbo.. maybe just p&p with new lifters

phil@autospeed
02-22-2010, 11:31 PM
I can look tomorrow. I know we have new 2.7 heads, hehe.

boost20th
02-22-2010, 11:33 PM
I can look tomorrow. I know we have new 2.7 heads, hehe.

give me a price on them also the autospeed muffler i have is shot i think its making a pinging sound at idle

cbirgl
02-22-2010, 11:38 PM
Phil you guys get RS4 injectors? Looking for a set for my MKV project and best price so far is around $550, but I am waiting to here from a few other of my suppliers.

phil@autospeed
02-22-2010, 11:58 PM
i think i hear some valve tap im hoping its just me but thats why im looking for heads

sometimes the solenoid for the recirculating valve makes noise also, try unplugging it momentarily while the engine is running and see if the noise goes away.

phil@autospeed
02-23-2010, 12:00 AM
will check the pricing for injectors and head.. and check for any 2.8's...

boost20th
02-23-2010, 12:11 AM
will check the pricing for injectors and head.. and check for any 2.8's...
thank you