anti-spin control

[bavariasport]

as of now i ofically hate my traction control. does anyone know how to remove the program or of a way that i can delete the program and not spend a **** load of money? :mad: because of the program i burned out a clutch and hit a curb :bs: thank you anyone who can help me.

[S4toSTI]

There is a fuse for it... buttt that fuse also powers the abs and with ur tendancy to hit curbs and burn clutches i would learn to adapt to it. You know you can turn dsc off by holding down the dsc button.

[bavariasport]

i hit the curb because my brakes locked up and as for the clutch thats what i get for tryin to do a burnout when my brakes lock up every time :cry: ill go take the fuse out now i dont kno why i didn't think of that before. thanks! as for the button it engages automatically so even if i do turn it off it will still engage thats what was pissin me off

[TROLL]

how did your brakes lock up with ABS? without knowing much about the situation it seems to me like the best thing to do right now is learn your car a bit better so it does exactly what you want it to do. i dont think thats a product of abs or traction control.
bryan

[S4toSTI]

Yeah if you have abs how did ur brakes lock up.

[bavariasport]

what happened was that i was trying to turn my car hard when the rear starts to slip the brakes lock in order to gain control. most times they only lock for a fraction of a second but under hard driving they will stay locked this causes my car to want go in a straight line. :mad: that being said thats why i went into the curb. i dont think it helped that the road was all ice either. i did some extensive reading on how the system works bmw's traction control is very odd. but for all the reasearch i did i couldn't find a programer that would erase the program. what i actually wanted was a way to erase the program without getin rid of my abs but if thats what i need to do that doesn't bother me.

[Raven18940]

If it was on ice are you sure you didn't just understeer in to the curb? As for locking the brakes, that's a common misconception with ABS, it only really works in a straight line. When you turnins and you stab the pedal, all bets are off.

[dolphinS4]

Laws of physics still apply.
Ice + sharp turns = hitting curbs, reguardless of electronic aides.
Don't put the blame on the car.

[bavariasport]

im sure i didn't understeer. it was the ice and i was being stupid :driving: when i slipped on the ice i figured that my car would catch but it didn't so i tried to hit the gas but that did nothing because the rear brakes were locked. i don't want to put the blame on the car i was being stupid however, all being said i still want to be able to do a burnout and with the traction control on all the time the only way i can race is from a rolling start. this pisses many racers off and they refuse to race. i dont mean to piss anyone off i just want to be able to have some fun. :drag:

[S4toSTI]

Ok your 17 years old and stupid... i am not being mean but it seems as tho you are doing some pretty irresponsible things. We have all done then and **** happens but u need to learn that racing and messing arround on ice are not going to end well if u don 't know how to react. Once again i am not trying to be mean but i think the last thing u need right now is to get rid of the dsc in a rwd car.

[TROLL]

yeah take it from s4tosti, he knows all about doing stupid stuff in his car, haha.
bryan

[Gorilla Unit 33]

the only other way to get rid of the traction controll that i know of other then popping the fuse is going with a stand alone

[bavariasport]

ur not being mean i understand what you are saying and i have done some stupid things. i also dont want to wreck my car. i feel however, that the traction control is a part of the reason that i hit the curb. the curb didnt do any damage to my car because i wasn't drivin fast. when i hit the curb i might have been at 5mph and it was night. trust me i might be young and do stupid things but im not about to kill myself at this time in my life
p.s. me and my boy DaveTheWhiteAsian plan to stop by tomarrow at freshworks who will be there?

[bavariasport]

i got the problem fixed and the button works. bad fuse took it to the garrage that i used to work at and told them to fix it. problem solved and i still have traction when i need but also when i dont want it i just hit the button and get sideways :banana: :wiggle: :thumbup: :mrgreen:

[S4toSTI]

I am sure a good ammount of people will be there.

[TurboTagTeam]

Your car should have a button to turn of the traction control. It should be right in front of your shifter below the radio.

I know this because I have countless drifts in an M5 and they come with traction control.

[96s14]

not to be a dick but it sounds like you need to learn you car MUCH better. BMW has always been hailed for its least invasive TC. I dont see why it would lock up the rear brakes. I say go to a track and find out what the car can do.

[themadhatter]

to the OP, post in the bmw tech section and you'll get your answer quickly next time around or you can read the book that is commonly found in your glove box. ;)

to disable your factory DSC, hold the button down for about 10 seconds to completly shut it off. just tapping the button only partially disables it.

now before you go and kill yourself, take 96s14's advice.

-Ron

[DaveTheWhiteAsian]

he wont be killing himself anytime soon, his car doesnt run :-p

[bavariasport]

yea but you won't be either cause your car is a pice of crap just like mine. yours is gona cost you more too :finga: but yours might be running before mine :screwy:

[markley02]

It seems like you fixed it already, but you could tuen the car to OBDI. Correct if I am wrong madhatter, but wouldn't that get rid of it all together?

[bavariasport]

yea i fixed it but now my ecu is dead entirely. i dont kmow how it happened but it is. i am looking for a stand alone unit.

[UnderPoweredRS]

seems like you need to turn the driver off and not the traction control.

[TurboTagTeam]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh...OWNED!!!

Don't be an idiot and slam your bmw into a tree trying to drift. Learn to drive safely before you go out and kill someone.

[themadhatter]

It seems like you fixed it already, but you could tuen the car to OBDI. Correct if I am wrong madhatter, but wouldn't that get rid of it all together?

you're absolutely right since the DSC is tied to the DME, it would but why would you want to convert the car to obd-1?

there are no obd-1 wiring harnesses/conversions or even software to run the M52TUB25 reliably unless you want to invest $1-5k on a stand alone engine management system and then figure out the proper tuning to get the dual vanos to run as good as stock. then consider that all of that would be a waste of money since 3k would score you an S52B32 ('96-99 M3 motor) and give you an easy 210 whp (60+ over a 323i).

the 323i motor has no real future aside from FI or cams, neither of which will give better numbers then a (larger) motor swap.

-Ron

[themadhatter]

yea i fixed it but now my ecu is dead entirely. i dont kmow how it happened but it is. i am looking for a stand alone unit.
how did you kill the DME? good luck with the stand alone, AEM or TecIII?

-Ron

[markley02]

you're absolutely right since the DSC is tied to the DME, it would but why would you want to convert the car to obd-1?

there are no obd-1 wiring harnesses/conversions or even software to run the M52TUB25 reliably unless you want to invest $1-5k on a stand alone engine management system and then figure out the proper tuning to get the dual vanos to run as good as stock. then consider that all of that would be a waste of money since 3k would score you an S52B32 ('96-99 M3 motor) and give you an easy 210 whp (60+ over a 323i).

the 323i motor has no real future aside from FI or cams, neither of which will give better numbers then a (larger) motor swap.

-Ron

Thanks for the input. I didn't know it had dual vanos. I thought it was just an M52TU with OBD II, but never knew for sure.

[themadhatter]

you're very welcome. the 'tu' stands for dual vanos, as per BMW's engine codes.

[bavariasport]

there are no obd-1 wiring harnesses/conversions or even software to run the M52TUB25 reliably unless you want to invest $1-5k on a stand alone engine management system and then figure out the proper tuning to get the dual vanos to run as good as stock. then consider that all of that would be a waste of money since 3k would score you an S52B32 ('96-99 M3 motor) and give you an easy 210 whp (60+ over a 323i).

the 323i motor has no real future aside from FI or cams, neither of which will give better numbers then a (larger) motor swap.

-Ron[/QUOTE]




if i did buy the new motor it would come with a new ecu right? where would i find that motor at that price? will mod kits for a 99 m3 engine work with my car? is that year the e46 series and even if it wasn't would it still work with my car? even with FI cams and a supercharger i wont see some good numbers like i will with a motor swap?

[themadhatter]

if i did buy the new motor it would come with a new ecu right?

that depends on who you're buying the motor from. the dealer will not sell you rebuilt motor with a DME. if you buy the motor used, you'll most likely get the DME with the motor and possibly the engine harness.

where would i find that motor at that price?

If you're really serious, I know of a shop that has motors, transmissions etc and can even do the swap for you.

will mod kits for a 99 m3 engine work with my car?

mod 'kits'? you mean like cams and headers? Sure they will, you'd be using the proper motor so it's a no brainer questions. intake systems can be adapated from e46 applications since the mounts are different from an e36 setup. that's also a simple application but please reword your question better so I can understand your question better.


is that year the e46 series and even if it wasn't would it still work with my car? huh? your '99 323i doesn't use a drive by wire system. you should have no issues and can even snap a '00 Mroadster/coupe S52 motor if you're worried about it (same motor).

even with FI cams and a supercharger i wont see some good numbers like i will with a motor swap?

if you drop 5k into a supercharger, you'll be at e36 M3 power levels. if you drop 4-5k into an S52 motor swap, you'll be at M3 levels with room to improve such as cams (as you mention) or FI.

[bavariasport]

i mean like a supercharger kit. i would have to buy the m3 supercharger kit and would that fit in my car? i beleive that the bodies and frames are the same im just curious

[themadhatter]

for an e46 323i, you cannot fit any e46 M3 parts. different family motor, different mounting points, different subframes.

[bavariasport]

for an e46 323i, you cannot fit any e46 M3 parts. different family motor, different mounting points, different subframes.


so if i understand this right then if i wanted a supercharger it would have to be custom fit to the car?

[themadhatter]

you can purchase a 323i specific supercharger. I can think of 2 seperate companies that make them for you - AA and ASA. There are others, I can get you a list if you'd like.

-Ron

[TROLL]

hey guys if you are now on the subject of engine performance please start a new thread about it... thanks.
bryan

[bavariasport]

i got the stock ecu i had to cause i needed my car this weekend. i might start a thread in the future about superchargers for a bmw when i have the money if i do i will look you up. but right now i don't have the money :( :( i think that i am gonna keep out of the engine for a while hook up the suspension and body first. i am gona start a thread about a new piggy back i want to know if any one has heard about them thats the only thing i might think about right now. but if my car keeps breaking i won't have money for anything :furious: