Feds Seize Illegal Nissan Skyline GT-Rs In Cali

[tomustang]

http://jalopnik.com/5371967/feds-seize-illegal-nissan-skyline-gt+rs-in-cali

cali boys are busted

[NOPSTNS]

let em take em. r34's and below are old news!


please no one yell at me, im fragile

[importpower99]

Weak!!!
So when they seize the car are they going to crush it then?

[ourbloodykisses]

suckss

[mcperson2k]

No, they will prob keep them in a warehouse, so that the next time Paul Walker has to go undercover, he will have a decent sized selection.

[Scapegoat]

sucks for the owners... but you gotta pay to play.

though, it is pretty ****ing stupid that they're generally illegal to own in the states

[OMGz Turbo]

thats beat

[TalonTsi97]

Weak!!!
So when they seize the car are they going to crush it then?

I'm pretty sure they go to a private export auction and are sold pretty cheap and sent overseas.

[jcr557]

that sucks

[ndubz]

That...... Is unconstitutional on every possible level. Theyre registered as kit cars. You dont see the feds taking people's noble M400's and hot rods. Why are they doing this with skylines? and if they are cuz they arent supposed to be here, then why dont they go confiscate all of the porsche 959s, Pagani Zondas, and other imported high performance cars. This is bull****. These people are heretics.

[DPancoast]

lol... do you even know what the requirements are of a "kit car". I highly doubt that they are following the rules of having a kit car and are DDing them every day.

Too ****ing bad.

[evomike]

So because the govt thinks they may be driven frequently they just came and took em? That's kinda wack and really out of line I'd be pissed

[DPancoast]

lol while I would be pissed too, it's just what happens. It's the govt and it's IN CALIFORNIA... of all states in the US... you can't be surprised.

[evomike]

I just doesn't seem legal to me it even says they suspect they are being driven
frequently that's a lawsuit in my book.

[DPancoast]

Yeah. The more I think about it, the more I want to know.

Is the govt monitoring the cars to suspect "frequent driving"....

How did they find out who owns the cars and where they are?

Why did they pick that specific company to target?

I have a feeling there is more to the story and that there are other **** ups behind the scenes.

[ndubz]

Unconstitutional as hell. Time for a revolution and overthrow the Terminator Government in cali. :supz:

[den9]

they are probably for off road use only.

[tomustang]

Yeah. The more I think about it, the more I want to know.

Is the govt monitoring the cars to suspect "frequent driving"....

How did they find out who owns the cars and where they are?

Why did they pick that specific company to target?

I have a feeling there is more to the story and that there are other **** ups behind the scenes.

It's california, all cars have property tax every year. DMV is state government, that's how they know

[ScubaSteve]

You know the government couldn't turn down an opportunity for a good raiding.

[DPancoast]

well then there's the answer.... it's just life in CA

[05GT]

I don't see it as that big of a deal. Did anyone read the entire article?

"Importing vehicles without the appropriate credentialing from the appropriate U.S. agencies almost always ends up with cars being seized by the government, especially Skylines, and people getting fined or jail time. In this case, the cars were imported by Kaizo under a special exemption for automotive parts. They brought over the shells and drivetrains separately and then reassembled them. They were then, apparently, registered under the law as SB 100, which is for kit/show cars. This exemption allows vehicles not driven frequently to be registered without smog checks."

The company clearly tried to find a way to go around the importing rules and find some sort of loop hole to get the cars over here illegally. So in my opinion, good for them. They thought they were slick and they got caught. Simple as that. If you are gonna do something, do it the right way and this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

[Renegade_]

You know the government couldn't turn down an opportunity for a good raiding.

There's the reason I was going to post while I was reading down the thread... Steve, how's the car running?

[GHost240SX]

That...... Is unconstitutional on every possible level. Theyre registered as kit cars. You dont see the feds taking people's noble M400's and hot rods. Why are they doing this with skylines? and if they are cuz they arent supposed to be here, then why dont they go confiscate all of the porsche 959s, Pagani Zondas, and other imported high performance cars. This is bull****. These people are heretics.

Hot rods are kit cars....M400s are kit cars. Skylines are not ****ing kit cars. They a JDM vehicles, meaning they roll off the factory line with all those same parts. Just cause you take it apart over there and then reassemble it over here does not make it a kit car. It makes it a ****ing Nissan Skyline.

[Proven]

No, they will prob keep them in a warehouse, so that the next time Paul Walker has to go undercover, he will have a decent sized selection.

ha!, best response!

[Snakebite]

My only thing is what's "driven frequently" mean?

If I bought a Skyline GTR r32-r34, I'd be using it for shows, track (which are both offroad purpose) and maybe some weekend driving for maybe 2 hrs total (on road). I don't think that would constitute frequent driving. Now those Cali boys have better weather and probably daily drive the GTRs. BUT to say EVERY owner is not fair or should I say LEGAL at all.

The Cali gov. will most likely give some cars back after the owners pay some fines or hire an attorney to fight, but If I had to spend more money to keep my car or get it back, I'd want it to be definately legal in in US permanently to avoid further issues down the road in the future..

[mcperson2k]

Kit Cars can only be driven so many miles every year, just like classic cars. There is also a ton of other laws that follow them. California is THE most strict state when it comes to automobiles so this doesn't surprise me one bit. I know a few years ago, if you were caught street racing, your car was crushed, no questions asked.

There are actually articles written about this subject. I think there are give or take 18 or so 100% LEGAL skylines in this country. As in you can drive them as much as you please, anywhere you please, and nobody can do a thing about it. That's including R32s, 33s, and 34s. Which is why once in a while you will see an R32 or 33 up on the internet for $50,000.00+. All the others that people claim are legal, aren't. In my opinion Skylines are by far the coolest cars on the road to date, but you seriously have to be a money tree / moron to have one imported into the states today.

[bl@ckvr4]

Kalifornia. FTW.

[Scapegoat]

Hot rods are kit cars....M400s are kit cars. Skylines are not ****ing kit cars. They a JDM vehicles, meaning they roll off the factory line with all those same parts. Just cause you take it apart over there and then reassemble it over here does not make it a kit car. It makes it a ****ing Nissan Skyline.

considering the way these cars were imported and classified as kit cars when they reached our shores... yes... they are considered, by the law, as kit cars

[Jjaeger240]

All Skylines are illegal to be driven on US roads, period.
However, there are still several loop holes to daily drive a "Skyline" in the US.

[ndubz]

I just dont understand why it is such a big ****ing deal to the government. It is such a small market sector that they really should not care at all. **** them, their practice is an embarassment to our country and I hope they all get run over by nissan skylines. :finga:

[mcperson2k]

It has nothing to do with money, its the simple fact that they don't pass our safety standards / have never been tested, except my 2 companies who miserably failed.

[ndubz]

It has nothing to do with money, its the simple fact that they don't pass our safety standards / have never been tested, except my 2 companies who miserably failed.

So, look at half the cars out on the road today that are ld and in ****ty condition, they are less up to spec than a clean skyline. this is bull**** and everyone knows it. they are well out of their right as a governing body in the United States and should be dealt with as criminals. If it were me, Id take it to the supreme court, then sue them for a ****load of money and buy more JDM cars of all types.

[den9]

If it were me, Id take it to the supreme court, then sue them for a ****load of money and buy more JDM cars of all types.
because your an idiot.

[05OCsrt-4]

because your an idiot.

+1 for this

[GHost240SX]

considering the way these cars were imported and classified as kit cars when they reached our shores... yes... they are considered, by the law, as kit cars

No they aren't considered kits. Kit car implies that it is a car constructed from a "KIT" aka no drive train and leave the factory unassembled. The government isn't stupid, and the only reason they care because it's an easy win. All you have to do is pull the person over and see how their **** is registered. There ARE skylines that are legal, BUT they are FEW and FAR between.

R32s are legal. SOME R33s and R34s are legal. It's all about the 15 year rule and believe it or not MOTOREX. Also, there wouldn't be soo much care about this if not for the F&F generation.

[Scapegoat]

No they aren't considered kits. Kit car implies that it is a car constructed from a "KIT" aka no drive train and leave the factory unassembled. The government isn't stupid, and the only reason they care because it's an easy win. All you have to do is pull the person over and see how their **** is registered. There ARE skylines that are legal, BUT they are FEW and FAR between.

R32s are legal. SOME R33s and R34s are legal. It's all about the 15 year rule and believe it or not MOTOREX. Also, there wouldn't be soo much care about this if not for the F&F generation.

what you are failing to understand is, they were registered as kit cars by the company that imported them... therefore, they are kit cars. If the current owner does not abide by the rules of owning a vehicle classified as such, the government has every right to step in as those laws were in place before this vehicle landed on the shore and was registered as such.

[92sileighty]

why the f*ck does the government care so much about it. its just a car. really? a full out fbi task force for a damn car? that's ridiculous. they have bigger things to worry about then some some damn car, like debt war poverty obesity and all kinds of other sh*t they do nothing about.

[Foolinaround]

it wasnt fbi it was ice btw.

and i see both sides of this argument but it is cali,now if they did this on the east coast the odds of them getting F'd in the A are a little less

[92sileighty]

it wasnt fbi it was ice btw.

and i see both sides of this argument but it is cali,now if they did this on the east coast the odds of them getting F'd in the A are a little less

yea you're right, good call

[mcperson2k]

So, look at half the cars out on the road today that are ld and in ****ty condition, they are less up to spec than a clean skyline. this is bull**** and everyone knows it. they are well out of their right as a governing body in the United States and should be dealt with as criminals. If it were me, Id take it to the supreme court, then sue them for a ****load of money and buy more JDM cars of all types.

I doesn't really involve the condition of the actual vehicles. Its more like 'If in a head on collision will the back seat of a Nissan Skyline unbolt and crash into the front seats' 'Does the steering wheel easily detach' 'Is there a chance of electrical fire due to the cars engineering' Stuff like that.

[mcperson2k]

No they aren't considered kits. Kit car implies that it is a car constructed from a "KIT" aka no drive train and leave the factory unassembled. The government isn't stupid, and the only reason they care because it's an easy win. All you have to do is pull the person over and see how their **** is registered. There ARE skylines that are legal, BUT they are FEW and FAR between.

R32s are legal. SOME R33s and R34s are legal. It's all about the 15 year rule and believe it or not MOTOREX. Also, there wouldn't be soo much care about this if not for the F&F generation.

The 15 year rule doesn't apply to Skylines. Some people manage to get the 32's registered with their insurance companies, than claim they are "Legal" when they try to sell them, but they aren't. If they were, than everyone would be bringing them down from Canadia, no questions asks, since they are very affordable super cars.

[ScubaSteve]

There's the reason I was going to post while I was reading down the thread... Steve, how's the car running?

It's running great but it never gets driven because I live in the city and I'm afraid that it'll get broken into if I keep it here.

[ndubz]

I doesn't really involve the condition of the actual vehicles. Its more like 'If in a head on collision will the back seat of a Nissan Skyline unbolt and crash into the front seats' 'Does the steering wheel easily detach' 'Is there a chance of electrical fire due to the cars engineering' Stuff like that.

Ya, but my point is that theres many older vehicles that have deteriorated to that level as well that are properly registered and legal in this country. If they really gave a **** about safety, then they should do what switzerland does and not allow people to drive deteriorating cars on the streets. There are definitely unconstitutional alterior motives at play here. And anyone who hears about this should be angry.

Yes they were registered as kit cars, yes many people chose to DD them with that registration. That is cause for a fine or the revoking of the cars registration, NOT the confiscation of the vehicle by the ****ing thought police. this is absolute bull**** and as an american I am ****ing furious over this because of their principles. As should all of you be. Land of the free.....It seems not so much. And thats a damn shame, because if we let them do this, then what is to stop them from making laws outlawing modifications, then they could confiscate all of our cars. They arent taking the skylines because of the safety laws, Bull****, they are taking them because of the cultural implications they have on illegal motoring activity. and this wont stop unless people get pissed off and stand up for their rights. Make no mistake, this is a direct assault on the freedom and the rights of a few of our fellow citizens, we should all get pissed about this, because if we dont, then one day it WILL be us.

[TalonTsi97]

Some people manage to get the 32's registered with their insurance companies,

Insurance is the easy part, you can insure anything. They do it by value since the car won't come up in there system.

[BigWhiteTodd]

know how many improperly registered cars are in the US tons just these are easy targets. Has everything to do with money because it cost a arm and a leg to register a imported car. It's not a big deal looks like cops are doing their jobs I guess all the gangs and drugs are no big deal in cali.

[twastheglow]

know how many improperly registered cars are in the US tons just these are easy targets. Has everything to do with money because it cost a arm and a leg to register a imported car. It's not a big deal looks like cops are doing their jobs I guess all the gangs and drugs are no big deal in cali.

hahahahahaah

[ndubz]

know how many improperly registered cars are in the US tons just these are easy targets. Has everything to do with money because it cost a arm and a leg to register a imported car. It's not a big deal looks like cops are doing their jobs I guess all the gangs and drugs are no big deal in cali.

Of course not, hahaha I mean its not like the Mexican Mafia has most of their operations go through cali or anything. and its not like they are ripping apart Mexico as we speak because of these transport routes and others as well. But of course, making sure our roads are Skyline free is MUCH more important than dealing with a global criminal organization and their operations.

[marshallpre1]

I can't believe I'm gonna partly agree with ndubz here. Sure, the Skylines are illegal, but I want to know how many of them are here. Are there enough to really cause agencies to go after them? It's really just the EPA gaining ground from the green movement. Personally, I feel like this is the beginning of the end of car modifications. The Green Movement, whether their views are 100% correct or not, has put a negative connotation on performance cars. That's why I'm so confused about this whole thing. The percentage of performance cars compared to normal cars on the road is so small that it should be a non-issue. When I mod my car, I inject extra dollars into the struggling economy. If you cut that, then there's one less industry and more people without jobs.

[marshallpre1]

Update on Kaizo drama:

http://gtrusa.blogspot.com/2009/10/kaizo-drama-thus-far.html

[DwagsSpecV]

whats funny is that 90% of the cars on this forum violate the EPA rules. Are they going to start seizing all cars with a turbo-back now? Wtf

[marshallpre1]

whats funny is that 90% of the cars on this forum violate the EPA rules. Are they going to start seizing all cars with a turbo-back now? Wtf

... My open dump is not violating anything. I don't see a check engine light anywhere... :-p

[vantage08]

Maybe it's bc they slaughter cop cars. oh and who knows what else they were shipping in those boxes. :/

[Evolved]

considering the way these cars were imported and classified as kit cars when they reached our shores... yes... they are considered, by the law, as kit cars

what you are failing to understand is, they were registered as kit cars by the company that imported them... therefore, they are kit cars. If the current owner does not abide by the rules of owning a vehicle classified as such, the government has every right to step in as those laws were in place before this vehicle landed on the shore and was registered as such.

Sorry, but you're wrong. What Ghost is saying is 100% correct. If the skylines had different engines in them it wouldn't be an issue but once you reassemble the car back to original factory specs then that's where you have a problem.

What Kazio was doing was/is illegal and that's why they were shut down.

[jpalamar]

It has nothing to do with money, its the simple fact that they don't pass our safety standards / have never been tested, except my 2 companies who miserably failed.

+1. It is about the car being safe. My GTO is based off the Holden Monaro in Austrailia. In order to bring it to the US, they had to modify some things to meet US safety regulations.

It isn't any different. People with the money to buy these cars and import them, need to find the extra couple of bucks to make it legal.

I don't feel bad for people who exploit a loop hole and then get themselfs screwed.

[jpalamar]

Maybe it's bc they slaughter cop cars. oh and who knows what else they were shipping in those boxes. :/

So does just about any highly modifed preformance car.

[Elliott18t]

its because they can't pass US saftey/smog regulations... like jpalam said about the holden.

[Scapegoat]

Sorry, but you're wrong. What Ghost is saying is 100% correct. If the skylines had different engines in them it wouldn't be an issue but once you reassemble the car back to original factory specs then that's where you have a problem.

What Kazio was doing was/is illegal and that's why they were shut down.

how am i wrong? the article states these cars were imported as Kit cars... they are therefore governed by the laws set for kit cars.

just because the importing company did something illegal doesn't absolve the end user of the crime. thats like saying if i sell an illegal handgun to someone and they get caught with it then they are not at fault for having purchased an illegal handgun.

i've no doubt that the people who purchased these cars knew of the difficult situation we have in america with these cars... a difficult and ridiculous situation. I'm not arguing the fact that this is a retarded seizure of these vehicles and that the difficulty of coming into possession of one is equally retarded.

I'm arguing that, these vehicles were legally seized by the government based on how they were a) illegally imported, b) registered incorrectly and c) driven unlawfully as stated by the laws in place for their registration type.

i think a vehicle should be able to be legally imported regardless of its country of origin and its crash testing based on the originating country's production numbers. if a vehicle exceeds a set number of produced units, that vehicle shall be legally imported into the states and an import tax be levied against it as well as a special title stating usage similar to a classic vehicle.

[jpalamar]

i think a vehicle should be able to be legally imported regardless of its country of origin and its crash testing based on the originating country's production numbers. if a vehicle exceeds a set number of produced units, that vehicle shall be legally imported into the states and an import tax be levied against it as well as a special title stating usage similar to a classic vehicle.

It can be imported for track use, car shows pending it is trailered of course. The owner has the OPTION to take whatever steps are required to modify to meet US spec and have it inspected and titled accordingly.

Every country has its own requirements for safety. If you wanna drive it in the US, then do what you gotta do to make that happen, but don't complain if you dont. These people did not.

Plus they are commiting insurance fraud when they knowingly insure a car was a kit when it is just another car taken apart and put back together.

[evomike]

There is no real legitamite reason that you shouldn't be able to drie a skyline on us roads, I don't care what you say about us crash tests the only reason we need tests that's strict is because Americans can't drive. I think it's stupid that you can't import and drive whatever you want, I can drive a 32 ford around that is super dangerous because it was made here, and really let's think about this safety rule is it really a big deal it's a bit more unsafe people ride motorcycles around and they are super unsafe let's get serious it's all nonsence and you all know it.

[Elliott18t]

thats because a 32 ford is grandfather'd in. if this car was 20+ years old(i forget how old it needs to be) you can import it as something special IIRC. the lancia delta integrale is now legal i think... or soon to be.

[Elliott18t]

Motor vehicles not more than 25 years old must conform to the Department of Transportation (DOT) motor vehicle safety standards that were in effect when these vehicles were manufactured. Passenger cars manufactured after September 1, 1973 must also meet bumper standards.

http://foreignborn.com/visas_imm/entering_us/7importingyourcar.htm

[Scapegoat]

It can be imported for track use, car shows pending it is trailered of course. The owner has the OPTION to take whatever steps are required to modify to meet US spec and have it inspected and titled accordingly.

Every country has its own requirements for safety. If you wanna drive it in the US, then do what you gotta do to make that happen, but don't complain if you dont. These people did not.

Plus they are commiting insurance fraud when they knowingly insure a car was a kit when it is just another car taken apart and put back together.

i'm agreeing with you... did you read the rest of my posts? :p

There is no real legitamite reason that you shouldn't be able to drie a skyline on us roads, I don't care what you say about us crash tests the only reason we need tests that's strict is because Americans can't drive. I think it's stupid that you can't import and drive whatever you want, I can drive a 32 ford around that is super dangerous because it was made here, and really let's think about this safety rule is it really a big deal it's a bit more unsafe people ride motorcycles around and they are super unsafe let's get serious it's all nonsence and you all know it.

there is a legitimate reason... because there are laws in place regarding safety testing on US spec vehicles. if there is no US version of a JDM, EDM, etc vehicle it is not legally allowed to be driven on US roads.

Do I wholly agree w/ the laws... no, i don't. but i don't fully disagree with them, nor am i going to complain about them when someone tries to skirt around them illegally and gets caught doing so.

you know the payment for the crime... you play and get caught... you pay. you want the laws changed... lobby against them instead of sitting on a forum saying they are nonsense.

personally, i don't care enough to do anything about it because i don't plan on owning a skyline

[evomike]

Yeah I get that but you can't logically look at it and say it's because it isn't safe, How is a skyline unsafe it isn't it's bs and that's the only reason they can't be imported is because they will take away from usdm car sales it's as simple as that.

[jpalamar]

i'm agreeing with you... did you read the rest of my posts? :p

Some time you just gotta argue just to argue. It's the TST way.




Plus.. no I didn't read it fully :lol:

[jpalamar]

Yeah I get that but you can't logically look at it and say it's because it isn't safe, How is a skyline unsafe it isn't it's bs and that's the only reason they can't be imported is because they will take away from usdm car sales it's as simple as that.

It really won't hurt usdm car sales. It is a minmal market at best. It will probally only change the STi/Evo owners purchases.

[evomike]

It certainly would hurt sales your assuming people would only import skylines, there is tons of cars and models the us doesn't get and if people could import those car alot would plain and simple.

[Elliott18t]

if they where legal they would be imported and taxed accordingly.. no different than getting a car from another company.

[Scapegoat]

Yeah I get that but you can't logically look at it and say it's because it isn't safe, How is a skyline unsafe it isn't it's bs and that's the only reason they can't be imported is because they will take away from usdm car sales it's as simple as that.

its unsafe, according to the government, because the car hasn't been tested according to our standards. its as simple as that. whether or not the car is safe, which we know it is, isn't the point. it doesn't have the appropriate testing that USDM cars have had.

And it would be unfair to the company's that have gone through that testing, and spent the money, to be compliant to allow a non-compliant car to be imported willy nilly.

Like i said though... i don't fully agree with the government's stance on this. I think these vehicles should only require a certain premium for insurance, a tax levied against the cost of the vehicle for importation and a specific title that denotes them as legally imported but untested

[Evolved]

how am i wrong? the article states these cars were imported as Kit cars... they are therefore governed by the laws set for kit cars.

just because the importing company did something illegal doesn't absolve the end user of the crime. thats like saying if i sell an illegal handgun to someone and they get caught with it then they are not at fault for having purchased an illegal handgun.

i've no doubt that the people who purchased these cars knew of the difficult situation we have in america with these cars... a difficult and ridiculous situation. I'm not arguing the fact that this is a retarded seizure of these vehicles and that the difficulty of coming into possession of one is equally retarded.

I'm arguing that, these vehicles were legally seized by the government based on how they were a) illegally imported, b) registered incorrectly and c) driven unlawfully as stated by the laws in place for their registration type.

i think a vehicle should be able to be legally imported regardless of its country of origin and its crash testing based on the originating country's production numbers. if a vehicle exceeds a set number of produced units, that vehicle shall be legally imported into the states and an import tax be levied against it as well as a special title stating usage similar to a classic vehicle.

When you re-assemble the cars back to original manufacturing specs it is not a kit car. A r34 with a corvette engine could be classified as a kit car. A r34 with a rb26dett is not a kit car. That's the technicality that changes everything.

Think about it. If you take a Mustang, disassemble it, ship it to Japan and reassemble it, is it not still a Mustang? Or course it is.

I heard this straight from people who have worked for Motorex and have spoken extensively with the owner of Kazio and toured their facility. What Kazio was doing was indeed illegal.

[Scapegoat]

think about what you are arguing Evolved...

there is no technicality here... the importing company imported and registered these skylines as kit cars. regardless of how you view the laws and regulation set forth regarding the term "kit car" it is a fact that, as cited, these cars that were confiscated were registered as kit cars. and are therefore subject to all rules, regulations and laws as outlined for cars registered as such.

you can't compare shipping a disassembled vehicle from america to japan... for one, you don't know the rules, regulations and laws surrounding importing or registering a vehicle in that country.

we're getting somewhere with your last couple of sentences. Kazio was going something illegal. should you expect the end user, the people that purchased these illegally important/titled vehicles to get off scott free? thats not how it works. they were in possession of contraband AND they then broke a law regarding the registration of their vehicles that brought attention to them. of course they're going to get their vehicles confiscated.

there is nothing to debate here as the facts are there. these cars should have been confiscated by the authorities based on the facts presented. everything points to this being a legal seizure of the cars. there is no breach of our rights, no breach of the constitution or our amendments. there is nothing there saying that we are legally allowed to own and operate vehicles illegally, even if we were not aware of the laws. and not being aware of the laws of such a highly noticeable vehicle is the buyer's problem, not the governments and not the company that imported these vehicles illegally.

my family had in our possession a genuine MP-40 from WW2. Certain family members being aware of the laws surrounding this weapon made it known that we were, due to the death of a family member, in possession of an illegal fire arm. this weapon has since, years and years ago and shortly after we acquired it, was "taken care of". If we were found to be in possession of this weapon by the authorities... "We didn't know" wouldn't be an entirely valid excuse. illegal goods are illegal goods... weapons, drugs, cars, etc.

[240_fun]

Basically... if i owned a skyline and someone tried to take it, I dont care who the **** you are your dead. Id would blow the state befor eid let them take my car. Id do jail time before i let someone take my car. **** i would run that thing down the highway in a high speed chase and run that thing into the ground before i let them take it
**** them **** that illegal car bull**** and **** the government and there car standards. My **** and ill do what i gotta do to keep it.
and btw why cant they just unregister the car instead? why does it need to be seized? its not illegal to own its illegal to drive on the streets

[Scapegoat]

ok vin diesel...

[Slick 87]

ok vin diesel...

lol. perfect response.

[jpalamar]

Basically... if i owned a skyline and someone tried to take it, I dont care who the **** you are your dead. Id would blow the state befor eid let them take my car. Id do jail time before i let someone take my car. **** i would run that thing down the highway in a high s
peed chase and run that thing into the ground before i let them take it

We got an internet tough guy. And no you wouldn't. You would bitch up just like everone else when the fed come toyour house and take it. And if you got in their face, they would f your day up even more.


**** them **** that illegal car bull**** and **** the government and there car standards. My **** and ill do what i gotta do to keep it.
and btw why cant they just unregister the car instead? why does it need to be seized? its not illegal to own its illegal to drive on the streets

If you rob a bank, say sorry and give the money back, guess what. You still go to jail. People would just unregister the car and re-kit the thing. It wouldn't solve the problem.