Possibly Sold the turbo grand am.. and getting...

[zuki19]

yes yes a 1.8t vdub lol.. sad id go this route but its whatever, car is amazing looking and has upgraded turbo, chipped etc etc.

Guy from CT is buying my GA for 5,000$ and transmission is completely dead, car doesnt move, giving him my spare one.

[jpalamar]

Sounds like a downgrade, I wouldn't be excited at all.

[lownslow95]

Considering his car has a broken tranny, to him it might be an upgrade.

[OMGz Turbo]

After all the headaches, i wouldn't get one just to give myself ANOTHER headache. VW's are prone to problems too

[ricky2i5]

in for pix!

[Elliott18t]

how is that a downgrade!?!? wtf.?

[russiankid]

Thanks for sharing something that may possibly happen.

[zuki19]

Don't got pics yet, but heres a slight mods list...

2002 1.8t
137k miles
h & r coilovers
vsr 18 inch rims
fmic
fullstainless 2.5 exhaust
power everything
heated seats
mirrors
tinted tails
boser hood
K&N filter
n75 race valve
chipped
new td04 turbo 28 lb of boost
hks blowoff-valve

probably will be a downgrade powerwise, oh well, car does look sexy though, thought id never go to a vw... :-(

[Elliott18t]

how much power was ur gt? get rid of the bov..

[OMGz Turbo]

Don't got pics yet, but heres a slight mods list...

2002 1.8t
137k miles
h & r coilovers
vsr 18 inch rims
fmic
fullstainless 2.5 exhaust
power everything
heated seats
mirrors
tinted tails
boser hood
K&N filter
n75 race valve
chipped
new td04 turbo 28 lb of boost
hks blowoff-valve

probably will be a downgrade powerwise, oh well, car does look sexy though, thought id never go to a vw... :-(

Wonder if the timing belt was done, Aren't these motor's notorious for having sludge problems?

[OMGz Turbo]

Definitely LESS POWER. Prob still only makin 170WHP

[Elliott18t]

no it should be above 200(not wayyyy over).. otherwise something is very wrong... depends on the engine too.

[twastheglow]

Definitely LESS POWER. Prob still only makin 170WHP

Boosted and only making 170whp? :supz:

[zuki19]

idk he said he spanked a couple sti's, cant be too slow... my gt walked a turbo mustang

[russiankid]

28lbs of boost on a stock bottom end?

[zuki19]

Not sure, Those mods are just the ones he texted me.

[3rdGenMr2Girl]

sounds like a downgrade to me :(

[zuki19]

I look at it this way, It's still boosted, the cars got somewhat potential, very sick looking, quick, gets amazing gas mileage compared to the v6 boosted gas hog, and my car doesnt run. his does, considering i dont have any extra money to buy a DD for all the downtime of GA building the tranny. I drive 50+ miles to school and back, so about 100 miles a day.

[Murderface]

yes yes a 1.8t vdub lol.. sad id go this route but its whatever, car is amazing looking and has upgraded turbo, chipped etc etc.

Guy from CT is buying my GA for 5,000$ and transmission is completely dead, car doesnt move, giving him my spare one.

Hate to break this to you but unless you got a 337 GTI, 20th AE GTI or a car with an 02M trans swap, you're probably going to blow up that transmission as well. The 02J trans doesn't like more than a stock turbo...

I swapped an 02M into my car and sold my 02J to a guy who blew first on his 02J with a K04 (<250whp).

EDIT:

Just saw this:


2002 1.8t
137k miles
h & r coilovers
vsr 18 inch rims
fmic
fullstainless 2.5 exhaust
power everything
heated seats
mirrors
tinted tails
boser hood
K&N filter
n75 race valve
chipped
new td04 turbo 28 lb of boost
hks blowoff-valve

He's running a Mitsu TD04 on a VW which (usually) means one thing: he bought the Greddy kit. That kit uses a TD04 Hybrid 19T. Here's the map:
http://wcssp.webclub-subaru.com/steph13/td04h-19t-cfm.gif

~35 lbs per minute = ~350 bhp tops = ~300 wheel.

And more importantly, here's a dyno at 24psi:

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w275/NightSwing17/2_12_2008Dyno.jpg

That was with 11.x AFR at WOT so it's not running too well...

So you'll probably be making a bit over 250 wheel in a 2900lb car.

28lbs of boost on a stock bottom end?

As long as he stays under 300 wtq he's more than safe. Going by that dyno, he won't be pushing more than that.

Wonder if the timing belt was done, Aren't these motor's notorious for having sludge problems?

At that mileage even if the timing belt was done at 60-80k like it should have been, the thing is coming up on needing another TB job. Old motors in Passats/A4s are notorious for sludging up when not run with synthetic, newer motors are fine as long as you use full syn.

[Sled]

Hate to break this to you but unless you got a 337 GTI, 20th AE GTI or a car with an 02M trans swap, you're probably going to blow up that transmission as well. The 02J trans doesn't like more than a stock turbo...

I swapped an 02M into my car and sold my 02J to a guy who blew first on his 02J with a K04 (<250whp).

My buddies 337 broke it's trans after he put a K04 on. pretty sure both trannies aren't the greatest. BTW he makes 250whp and 307wtq.

[Murderface]

My buddies 337 broke it's trans after he put a K04 on. pretty sure both trannies aren't the greatest. BTW he makes 250whp and 307wtq.

02Ms fail as well (seems like they randomly break shift forks) but they are a better design than the 02J, primarily a tougher diff. Guys making big numbers hold 700whp + on 02Ms.

[Willdue]

1. **** VW haters (90% this site)
2. Dont buy a modded dub
3. Should be around 220WHP
4. VW's are <3
5. VW's are a good crowd, but draw alot of haters.
6. Lower it.

[OMGz Turbo]

1. **** VW haters (90% this site)
2. Dont buy a modded dub
3. Should be around 220WHP
4. VW's are <3
5. VW's are a good crowd, but draw alot of haters.
6. Lower it.

Wow that wasn't the most biased response in this ENTIRE thread.



Your gonna end up buying this car, I guarantee **** is just thrown together and won't hold up any better than the grand am did. Atleast the GA was original IMO

[twastheglow]

Wow that wasn't the most biased response in this ENTIRE thread.



Your gonna end up buying this car, I guarantee **** is just thrown together and won't hold up any better than the grand am did. Atleast the GA was original IMO

That's the exact reason buying a modded car is more of a gamble.

[HickRocket1258]

Good luck with it. Could understand with the commute considering the Grand Am isn't that great. Parts will be expensive.

[Elliott18t]

i guarantee it will probably hold together than that GT. didnt it trans break already once before?

[jpalamar]

my gt walked a turbo mustang

I call BS!

Car ran a 14.013 @ 103 mph with a terrible transmission no first gear. easily a low-mid 13 second car, will retune car after I have new trans and valve springs in.

0-60 was 4.5 seconds after I had car broken in with a little bit of wheel spin.

Post #38 from your build thread ^^^

Thats stock times for muscle cars. Add a turbo to a Mustang and your not even in the same ball park.

[OMGz Turbo]

i guarantee it will probably hold together than that GT. didnt it trans break already once before?

Think about it, The GA definitely wasn't meant for more power hence why the tranny popped. But VW's **** trannys on a "normal" basis by makin a tad more then stock power level.s

[zuki19]

Lol ok man, whatever you say, The Mustang owner can vouch for me walking him,14 flat without first gear is pretty damn impressive considering 2nd gear shiftpoint is at 45.

And I know the kid in person for quite some years that has this car, he said after he gets turbo put on he is having it reflashed before he gives it to me.

[jpalamar]

I'm not hating on your build at all. Its impressive to see a built up car. But think of it in simple numbers

99 Grand Am GT 3.4L V6 that weighs 3091

98 Mustang V8 weighs 3273
99 Mustang V8 weighs 3317
05 Mustang V8 weighs 3483

Your telling me that with your car being slightly lights with a V6 (A4)with a turbo is going to outrun a V8 (M5) with a turbo?

[zuki19]

So you're comparing engines now?

consindering every motor is different and not every car is the same, anyways, 3400/3500s love boost, great motors

[jpalamar]

I'm saying a turbo V6 is not going to outrun a turbo V8 if they have equivilent mods and the cars weigh basically the same.

[zuki19]

I'm saying a turbo V6 is not going to outrun a turbo V8 if they have equivilent mods and the cars weigh basically the same.

car is stock with a turbo thrown on, as for mine, i'm just running open downpipe, huge difference in WOT when i have exhaust on, no doubt.

[nhanxsolo]

I agree with the VDub dudes in here, your car should be a little over 200hp, not 170. Also get rid of the blow off valve immediately. Enjoy it. If you need any work done, bring it to 20squared.

[Murderface]

6. Lower it.

...if you want it to handle worse. Mk4 suspension geometry sucks and gets worse the lower you go.

[Elliott18t]

thus, who cares and just lower it. thats the conclusion ive come too.

[Schepis]

Wow that wasn't the most biased response in this ENTIRE thread.



Your gonna end up buying this car, I guarantee **** is just thrown together and won't hold up any better than the grand am did. Atleast the GA was original IMO

Agree.