toyota camry

[evilution10x]

Great to hear. This just narrowed my two choices down to AKUMA and another shop.

Were you on the stock clutch before installing the Spec clutch?

[Fujito]

Yeah. I wonder if I can get any money for it. It has 25,000 miles on it and I've only launched 3x and I drive pretty conservatively.

[disturbedfan121]

lemme know when you pick it up i live pretty close to akuma

[Whitekryptonit3]

yeah, the end of the car build. I've kind of let it get out of hand. Next time i buy a car i'll just get a better car to begin with and keep it relatively stock.

amg?.

[Fujito]

M3, AMG something, S5... something like that

[Fujito]

lemme know when you pick it up i live pretty close to akuma

Why, you want to come look at it? I have to baby it for a while since the clutch needs breakin, but you can come see it when it's getting the full tune.

And bring $$$ if you want to pick up some parts. ARC BOX YO

[disturbedfan121]

yea i wanna come check it out lol no arc box for me lol

[evilution10x]

Yeah. I wonder if I can get any money for it. It has 25,000 miles on it and I've only launched 3x and I drive pretty conservatively.

A new stock clutch disk goes for about $123. Don't really think you can get much for it.

http://www.oemmitsubishiparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214331&chapter=&sectionids=11,0&groupid=10010&subgroupid=60414&make=24&model=Lancer%20Evolution&year=2008&catalogid=1&displayCatalogid=0

[evilution10x]

M3, AMG something, S5... something like that


Still gonna keep the evo?

[Fujito]

yea i wanna come check it out lol no arc box for me lol
Oh ok I'll let you know then. Someone will buy that ARC box for my premium price hehe. They gots to have da JDM bling!
A new stock clutch disk goes for about $123. Don't really think you can get much for it.

http://www.oemmitsubishiparts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214331&chapter=&sectionids=11,0&groupid=10010&subgroupid=60414&make=24&model=Lancer%20Evolution&year=2008&catalogid=1&displayCatalogid=0
Ohhhhh.... I guess I'll just keep mine then. Labor to change these things out is the killer.
Still gonna keep the evo?

Yeah, I don't plan on selling it. I learned my lesson--never spend this much money on modding a car again. It's better to just buy better and spend a little on very minor mods.

[evilution10x]

Oh ok I'll let you know then. Someone will buy that ARC box for my premium price hehe. They gots to have da JDM bling!

Ohhhhh.... I guess I'll just keep mine then. Labor to change these things out is the killer.


Yeah, I don't plan on selling it. I learned my lesson--never spend this much money on modding a car again. It's better to just buy better and spend a little on very minor mods.

When you mean "better" i suppose you mean luxury with performance? (BMW M, AMG, Audi S/RS)


Anyway, honestly the evo is pretty much the best bang for the buck you can get. :rock:

Nice build, can't wait to see what it will be like after you get it back from AKUMA.

[Fujito]

No, it could also just mean performance. A new GT500, Lotus Exige, Corvette, etc.

The 5.0 is the best bang for the buck now.

[TROLL]

So when will you be getting the car back? I keep checking this thread for updates to see how much power it put down... :)

[evilution10x]

No, it could also just mean performance. A new GT500, Lotus Exige, Corvette, etc.

The 5.0 is the best bang for the buck now.

Should have been more detailed, what I mean when I say the evo is the best bang for the buck includes the fact that the evo has amazing performance along with it being practical. But thats another thread.

Anywho, congrats on nearing the finish of your build and hope you have fun.

[Fujito]

So when will you be getting the car back? I keep checking this thread for updates to see how much power it put down... :)

Hopefully on Tuesday. I have to go back for the full tune once I break the clutch in.

[Fujito]

Should have been more detailed, what I mean when I say the evo is the best bang for the buck includes the fact that the evo has amazing performance along with it being practical. But thats another thread.

Anywho, congrats on nearing the finish of your build and hope you have fun.

I've seen all the threads about why the Evo is great on the Evo forums, and it is, but what you have to realize is once you begin to heavily modify it it is no longer practical. It does perform well and make large gains from minor modifications, but to take it to the next level it is very expensive.

[evilution10x]

I've seen all the threads about why the Evo is great on the Evo forums, and it is, but what you have to realize is once you begin to heavily modify it it is no longer practical. It does perform well and make large gains from minor modifications, but to take it to the next level it is very expensive.

To each their own I suppose, a topic like this can go on and on. We'll jest leave it at that. :)

Any plans to take it to the track?

[DaveSTi]

I've seen all the threads about why the Evo is great on the Evo forums, and it is, but what you have to realize is once you begin to heavily modify it it is no longer practical. It does perform well and make large gains from minor modifications, but to take it to the next level it is very expensive.

and that's why i stopped at stage 3.

[Fujito]

You Subie guys and your "stages" :lol:

You notice that no one on the Evo forums ever refers to stages, right?

I know on sites like Buschur.com and AMS.com they sell things categorized in stages, though.

[OBEEWON]

Dropped the car off at Akuma yesterday.

Here's a pic from the way up.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6051680160_9094197774_b.jpg

Car looks perfect here.

[evilution10x]

You Subie guys and your "stages" :lol:

You notice that no one on the Evo forums ever refers to stages, right?

I know on sites like Buschur.com and AMS.com they sell things categorized in stages, though.


Because using the term "stage" is very accurate. :roll:

Person 1 with stage 2 has 300 whp while person 2 with his stage 2 has 350 whp. I guess it's a subie thing saying "I have stage #"

[Reds82]

Person 1 with stage 2 has 300 whp while person 2 with his stage 2 has 350 whp. I guess it's a subie thing saying "I have stage #"

If they have that much difference in wheel hp on a dyno its either a crappy tune or a easy dyno

[Fujito]

Because using the term "stage" is very accurate. :roll:

Person 1 with stage 2 has 300 whp while person 2 with his stage 2 has 350 whp. I guess it's a subie thing saying "I have stage #"

Ummm you're coming into my thread rolling your eyes at my comment to Dave? I'm joking around with him for the most part.

[Fujito]

Car looks perfect here.

Is it low enough for your taste? :lol:

[DaveSTi]

I guess I should have said Perrin stage 3 for the peanut gallery, but I knew Ito knows which brand I have on the car.

[evilution10x]

Ummm you're coming into my thread rolling your eyes at my comment to Dave? I'm joking around with him for the most part.

You read my comment the wrong way. what I was talking about is that when people in general use the term "stage" its not as accurate as saying the power output straight out. I said it in a jokeing manner, hence the rolling eyes.

[Chris B.]

I have a stage 22/7ths on my car.

[Rally Sport]

i'm stage -1, as in -1 turbo.

Beautiful evo as always.

[evilution10x]

If they have that much difference in wheel hp on a dyno its either a crappy tune or a easy dyno

I just threw out some numbers. The idea is that "stage 2" to someone can mean anything.

[DaveSTi]

http://www.perrinperformance.com/products/show/736/Stage-3-For-EVO-10?category=62&model=26

Teach me how to Dougie.

[D Money]

Jesse's motor is out. It's blown up. :(

[DaveSTi]

Jesse's motor is out. It's blown up. :(

sweet, now my car is faster.:lol:

[Fujito]

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr247/Fujito89/motor.jpg

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr247/Fujito89/motor2.jpg

[Fujito]

sweet, now my car is faster.:lol:

For now... :mrgreen:

[DaveSTi]

look at those sexy H&Rs ;)

Can't wait to see your build, I'm sure it'll be sick and nasty.

[Reds82]

Oh noes what let loose

[Fujito]

I need a flywheel, so I probably won't have the car back until Saturday or Tuesday :cry:

[DaveSTi]

doh...don't go too light, you'll hate it.

[Reds82]

Ah at least nothing went kaboom in the motor itself

[Fujito]

doh...don't go too light, you'll hate it.

Really? Would you get the Fadanze or the Clutchmasters? The latter is 3-4lbs heavier than the former.

[evilution10x]

http://www.perrinperformance.com/products/show/736/Stage-3-For-EVO-10?category=62&model=26

Teach me how to Dougie.

Just to clear thing up, non of my comments regarding the topic about "stages" were directed to you. :thumbup:

[RU EVO]

If you still want/need a flywheel I have my Fidanza which is like 9lbs that is sitting in my shed. I don't need it since I went with the Exedy Twin. Let me know if you want it.

[Fujito]

If you still want/need a flywheel I have my Fidanza which is like 9lbs that is sitting in my shed. I don't need it since I went with the Exedy Twin. Let me know if you want it.

Yeah I want it lol. I need to get it to Akuma ASAP.

[DaveSTi]

Really? Would you get the Fadanze or the Clutchmasters? The latter is 3-4lbs heavier than the former.

Does Spec have a flywheel to match up to their clutch?

I like the WORKS flywheel specs and I think the ACT flywheel for street (not the pro-lite) is decent too. Fidanza is a good name, haven't heard much about the Clutchmasters flywheel. I'm not sure if you can really go wrong here provided it isn't too light.

[DaveSTi]

Just to clear thing up, non of my comments regarding the topic about "stages" were directed to you. :thumbup:

I had no idea to be honest, but I'm going to try to learn the dougie anyway.

[Fujito]

I'll be picking the car up on Tuesday!

The word is out, so the turbo is a ball bearing FP Black. BALLN'.

[D Money]

^It should be done Tuesday, SHOULD!

[Fujito]

Tint tail lights 50% or get Ralliarts?

tint

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4508729581_b78f212ab1_b.jpg

Ralliarts

http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i446/jmsxchris/Voltex%20Type1S/VG_a.jpg

[Evojm27]

Ralliart FTW!!!

[TalonTsi97]

The price on the BB Black is ridiculous, a regular one gets the job done street or track and there pricey new as it is.

Tinted tails look a lot better.

[Fujito]

Ralliart FTW!!!

I like them, but I don't. They also cost $200 more than just tinting :lol:

[Fujito]

Oh yeah, who paints head light housings around here? I want to semi black mine out.

[xarchiex]

theres lightwerks and they're in north jersey i believe. alot of subi guys have used them.

[Fujito]

I'm looking for someone more local. I want minimal down time.

[Fujito]

I also need a ****ing detail. Maybe I'll finally gives Oakes a call hahaha.

[Big_Jim]

didn't you only tint the back windows of your car so you wouldnt gain any unwanted attention from the police? I think tinting the tail lights would increase that risk.

[Fujito]

Yeah. I've thought about that too.

[Yes2K]

I idolize your X bro, shes a work of art. Once im out of school im going to go crazy on my '11 PB :mrgreen:.

Oh - Go ralliarts, tint is ricer :-p

[Fujito]

I'm going to the SA meet on Tuesday night with Dricer and some other dirty whore cars.

Come by!

[Fujito]

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture135.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture136.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture137.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture138.jpg

MAPerformance manifold and FP black installed:

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture141.jpg

Akuma BM intake:

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture139.jpg

http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss201/AkumaMotorsports/Picture140.jpg

[TROLL]

Looks nice! Did you grab the car yet or no? Too bad you can't really see the turbo on Evos. I don't remember, are you also tuning and dynoing?

[Fujito]

Not yet. There's an issue with the FPR that we're trying to work out.

I need to break the clutch in, so I'll be on a base map for a few hundred miles.

[TROLL]

Oh I got ya... yeah I'm breaking in my new clutch too, and it sucks but its the first non-stock-like-engagement clutch I've owned so I'm still adjusting.
Hopefully the FPR situation is something simple...

[Fujito]

I've only driven stock clutches, so I don't know exactly what to expect from this aftermarket clutch lol.

The FPR is staying at 70PSI for some reason. It's a 30-70PSI one. Aeromotive 13155.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEI-13155/

The one that other Evo X people are running is the 13159/13109
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEI-13159/

I called Aeromotive earlier and talked to a tech, and he said regardless of what car I drive it should work since it's a universal application. The main differences between those two FPR's is the female and male threads and one has 6AN O-ring fitting sizes.

The tech wants to talk to Akuma not me, so I'm just waiting on that. If worst comes to worst I'll get the other FPR overnighted to Akuma.

[Fujito]

In retrospect I really should have just gotten the HKS fuel kit. I would have saved money. It comes with the fuel rail, injectors, and FPR.

When I bought the fuel rail I did not know they would only work with HKS injectors, so that's what caused all of this ****.

[TROLL]

Hmm strange, maybe mechanically it is defective or sometime is snagged or binding internally. You can pop the top of the FPR off to make sure nothing is binded in there, etc. but I'm sure Akuma has it covered.

[Fujito]

They got everything sorted out. I over nighted the part. **** these AN fuel lines are expensive. So they'll have it tomorrow and I'll have my car tomorrow.

[Fujito]

I think I might buy some BBS wheels. What do you guys think?

[TACH IT UP]

I think I might buy some BBS wheels. What do you guys think?

test fit my rims and see how they look lol

[Fujito]

Lol maybe.

Actually, I think I'll just keep my Volks and powder coat them.

Any local places that can fix my curb rashes & powder coat them? And how do I get the VOLK stickers?

[DocWalt]

If you want the legit Volk decals you're going to pay out the ass ($200 or so). These worked on my buddy's TE37s: http://daliracing.com/v666-5/catalog/index_browse_part.cfm?focus=1621

I have no idea which Volk wheels you have, but yeah... TE37s are common lol.

[angdefeo]

Bonehead Performance powdercoated my stock wheels and they did a great job. Not sure about who can fix the curb rash.

[Foolinaround]

Wicked powdercoating with Mr.brattelli is local to us jesse

[D Money]

John will buy the volks. Sell them and get 18x11 TE37s in gloss black.

[jen.]

Are you planning on powdercoating them a color similar to what they are now?

[Fujito]

OMG so much **** going on right now. I'm not even going to bother posting it because it'd take me 3 pages to write out.

[cmr076]

good or bad going on's?

[Fujito]

I don't know. I make out okay either way. It has just been very stressful.

I'll have my car on Friday.

[Honduh]

I think the volks are sick. What kind of BBS wheel would you be looking at?

[Fujito]

I think the volks are sick. What kind of BBS wheel would you be looking at?

None now. I looked and the CH-R's are only available to BMW's and Porsches and the LM's are too hard to find/get.

I have a pretty bad curb rash on one of my wheels. I'll just sand it down and spray it over with some matte black paint for now.

I'm broke. I want to build my motor now.

[D Money]

OMG so much **** going on right now. I'm not even going to bother posting it because it'd take me 3 pages to write out.

I agree. That was a lot of drama lol.

You could have a built motor if you left the stock fuel pump with 27psi for a little longer. haha

[Fujito]

I agree. That was a lot of drama lol.

You could have a built motor if you left the stock fuel pump with 27psi for a little longer. haha

Don't even get me started on that. All I can say is I have no faith in Ivey anymore.

But the drama... oh the drama...

[TalonTsi97]

Don't even get me started on that. All I can say is I have no faith in Ivey anymore.

But the drama... oh the drama...

HAHHAAHAHHA i could of told you that from the beginning. Hell it may of even been said here early on.


I know of a buscher built longblock for sale if your interested.

[Fujito]

I don't want lexis motor. I know he raced that car hard

[TACH IT UP]

Lol maybe.

Actually, I think I'll just keep my Volks and powder coat them.

Any local places that can fix my curb rashes & powder coat them? And how do I get the VOLK stickers?

my boy billy does powdercoating and he does a fantastic job and his price is really unbeatable.

As for stickers biggest ****ing hassle you will ever go through to get authentic ones and as stated about they charge you like 200 ish bux to get em. I went through the whole process its a pain in the ass.

Best way is to contact Mackin Industries directly as they are the only volk distributor in the USA. Because volk started a new stupid policy for selling stickers you have to email them pictures of the wheels completely stripped down with no stickers and prepped for coating as well as b4 shots of the barrel and forged stamps. After volk gets the pictures and ok's the shots they will allow you to order a set witch usually takes about 1 months roughly if your lucky less. I will be buying stickers and going through this process once again in about a month lol.

[Fujito]

my boy billy does powdercoating and he does a fantastic job and his price is really unbeatable.

As for stickers biggest ****ing hassle you will ever go through to get authentic ones and as stated about they charge you like 200 ish bux to get em. I went through the whole process its a pain in the ass.

Best way is to contact Mackin Industries directly as they are the only volk distributor in the USA. Because volk started a new stupid policy for selling stickers you have to email them pictures of the wheels completely stripped down with no stickers and prepped for coating as well as b4 shots of the barrel and forged stamps. After volk gets the pictures and ok's the shots they will allow you to order a set witch usually takes about 1 months roughly if your lucky less. I will be buying stickers and going through this process once again in about a month lol.
Meh sounds like more effort than I'm willing to put forth.

[Fujito]

So here's what basically happened today.

First of all this week has been hectic in general with my car. What was keeping the FPR at 70 PSI was a clog in the fuel pump. That was found out today, among other things that were unknown to me...

But that's not what the drama was all about.

One might ask, how did I acquire this ball bearing FP Black turbo? It is the only one made as of right now, but it is a prototype. Well, an active member on my Evo forum messaged me several months ago asking me if I was interested in a new turbo that would spool fast and make big power. Of course I said yes. After showing enough interest he divulged that it was in fact a ball bearing FP Black.

After 2 months of waiting the turbo was finally shipped to him, then to me. The way he explained it to me was that FP wanted me to help them launch it, which sounded a bit weird considering my motor is stock. But whatever, I got an awesome turbo at an awesome price (speculated to be around $2500 new).

So I get my turbo and clutch and fuel stuff and drop it off at Akuma. They contact FP to see what exactly they want for the testing and all, and FP doesn't know anything of this.

Fast forward 2 weeks to today and the turbo is on my car. FP wants it back. Today it was a lot of calls between Akuma, myself, the guy who sold me the turbo, and FP. At the end I gave up the turbo, but am getting a new FP Black (journal bearing) in return with some added insurance in case it ever does crap out since that was my main concern. My car should be ready for pick up on Friday since FP is next day shipping the turbo.


I'll be building my motor in 2 months or so depending on just how expensive it will cost me. Until then I'll be on a conservative tune since the FP Black is somewhat notorious for blowing up stock motors :mrgreen:

[TROLL]

how did mystery dude get this turbo and why does FP want it back?
hopefully you didn't have to incur any extra costs from this, although thats how things work out sometimes.

[Fujito]

I don't want to get too into it. It was a big mess that I should have never been dragged into.

No loss on my part. I actually made out well.

[OMGz Turbo]

Bah would have been cooler to have a 1 of 1 turbo...

Shame jesse but this is gonna be a MONSTA

[TROLL]

Understood... and frustrating that hindsight is always 20/20. Well the journal bearing turbo should perform well... ball bearing usually doesn't hold a very good value for the increase in cost. I have journal bearings in both of my cars with no desire to change them. Gotta watch out for those shady internet characters though... stranger danger!

[Fujito]

Bah would have been cooler to have a 1 of 1 turbo...

Shame jesse but this is gonna be a MONSTA

With no warranty and no idea of how it will perform or hold up? No thanks.

[Fujito]

Understood... and frustrating that hindsight is always 20/20. Well the journal bearing turbo should perform well... ball bearing usually doesn't hold a very good value for the increase in cost. I have journal bearings in both of my cars with no desire to change them. Gotta watch out for those shady internet characters though... stranger danger!

Well, he's not really shady, but he did do some unscrupulous things throughout this whole ordeal.

The ball bearing's main benefit is that they are supposed to last longer. A lot of journal bearings were failing. The downside to ball bearings are that they cost a lot more. The spool difference was supposed to be negligible. The FP Black is already a stock frame turbo and spools relatively fast.

[Fujito]

Picking the car up :mrgreen:

[Fujito]

Parts installed:
-FP Black
-MAP turbo manifold
-Spec +3 clutch
-Clutchmasters flywheel
-shiny Aeromotive FPR.
-Aeromotive FP gauge
-Aeromotive braided lines
-Aeromotive fuel pump
-HKS fuel rail
-HKS 800cc injectors
-AN fittings
-Akuma 3" intake

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6066/6110280248_b71da8026d_b.jpg

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6205/6110279650_be7da666d9_b.jpg

[jen.]

Glad after all that hassle you finally got the car back. It's looking good.

[Fujito]

Thanks. I missed it a lot. Unfortunately I have no boost until my tune :cry:

[jen.]

Thanks. I missed it a lot. Unfortunately I have no boost until my tune :cry:

Yeah, I honestly can't imagine. I went nuts when my car was down for four days for the S/C build. When are you getting tuned?

[Fujito]

Tuesday at 1:00.

I need to put 400 more miles on it between now and then... to break in the clutch.

[jen.]

Tuesday at 1:00.

I need to put 400 more miles on it between now and then... to break in the clutch.

Ah, well at least you don't have to wait too long! Getting dyno results then, too? I'm pumped to see those.

[nuTinmuch]

Tuesday at 1:00.

I need to put 400 more miles on it between now and then... to break in the clutch.

Just take a road trip somewhere. Bring your camera and get at it.

That's what I'd do, at least.

[Fujito]

Ah, well at least you don't have to wait too long! Getting dyno results then, too? I'm pumped to see those.
Yeah, I'll have dyno results. The numbers will be low because Akuma uses a Mustang dyno. I'm excited to have ~100+ HP!

Just take a road trip somewhere. Bring your camera and get at it.

That's what I'd do, at least.
They need to be city miles. I'm going to drive around Philly tonight and I'm going to cruise to Seaside tomorrow. I'm possibly driving to NYC on Monday. That should cover the 400 miles.

[dudewheresmycar]

i thought you were keeping the motor stock?

i just noticed how awesome those side skirts are too haha

[Fujito]

i thought you were keeping the motor stock?

i just noticed how awesome those side skirts are too haha

When I bought this car I said I was going to get wheels, do a few exterior mods, and keep the engine bay simple with blacked out AMS parts. Hell, you can probably go to the first few pages of this build journal and find me saying that.

The point is that I always seem to change my mind.

[Fujito]

7/8/2009
what he meant was that i listed all future mods on the bottom of the op.
I'll pick up a stage ii clutch when mine wears out. I'll also do an ivey tune once i buy all my bolt ons.

this is going to be a relatively quick build. I think i'll be done in about 6 months.

i'm ordering my next batch of mods next week. Probably the jun front lip and side skirts and a few cheaper ones since those two mods alone cost around $2,500.

[Fujito]

7/27/2009--I changed my mind LOL
Bump. I changed my mind on a lot of the upcoming mods. No more AMS--all JDM.

[Fujito]

7/28/2009--shameless plug by Oakes :lol:
don't forget one of the most worthwhile mods....an Oakes detail :)

Looks great, the X is really growing on me!

It's been fun, though. Every now and then I don't really give a **** about my car, but regardless of how complacent I become with it I always fall back in love with it somehow. While I realize that this whole project is such a waste of money, I don't regret it one bit.

[ambitiousCK]

Glad to hear that^^^^^, hope everything goes smoothly. Good luck

[Asif22]

Bay looks nice. Glad you got it back, even if I don't have my car for a few days I feel like a part of me is missing. Sorry I couldn't come out with you and waste gas today was a bad day for me lmao. How does it feel driving around NA?

Man...the amount of driving I do just for fun, I could do 400 mi. in no time hahah

[Yes2K]

Looks like an awesome build bro, now lets so some videos! :mrgreen::mrgreen:

[DaveSTi]

needs more cowbell.

[M3GRL]

LOVE it!!

[Fujito]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6089/6142803940_253a1e0b3a_b.jpg

[JST2KWIK]

I love this car but why are there never any cool action shots? Has this thing ever pulled a 1g corner or been driven faster than 65mph on the highway? Sure it's pretty, but it's a Mitsubishi not a Monet... let's see some action! Videos post-tune a must as well

[11secdsm]

I dig it!

[caldwell]

needs more cowbell.

lmfao

[Fujito]

I love this car but why are there never any cool action shots? Has this thing ever pulled a 1g corner or been driven faster than 65mph on the highway? Sure it's pretty, but it's a Mitsubishi not a Monet... let's see some action! Videos post-tune a must as well

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118741

[JST2KWIK]

been driven faster than 65mph on the highway

Ok, check. All others stand until pics/vids surface

[Yes2K]

Ok, check. All others stand until pics/vids surface
Vids!

[Fujito]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6206/6159626945_0e911c4ac3_b.jpg

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[JST2KWIK]

Vids!

I like this guy.

[Fujito]

I don't baby this thing. It's running pig rich right now though. I need a retune.

[Shipman]

Beautiful

[11secdsm]

I don't baby this thing. It's running pig rich right now though. I need a retune.

Let's get that **** done! Hit me up if you want to set it up.

[Rally Sport]

so mean, it's literally perfect.

[D Money]

Let's get that **** done! Hit me up if you want to set it up.

I keep telling him Chris, I keep telling him!!

[Fujito]

I'm working on it. I also sent JM Fab an email asking if they can custom fabricate my ARC box into a 3.5" intake.

[D Money]

^Why couldn't they lol. They can do anything.

[Fujito]

I know, they said they could. I'll get around to it.

I never did post up my numbers from Akuma with this FP Black, mainly because of how dissappointed I was with it.

350 WHP and I forget how much torque. Like 330 I think? I have to look at the dyno sheet. 25 PSI. Ivey had me at 352/346 on his dynojet with the stock turbo.

They do have a Mustang dyno, but the car honestly doesn't feel "faster" than it was with the stock turbo. The main differences are that the powerband is moved because of the lag, and it pulls harder at high speed runs. Besides that my previous set up had more torque, and 1st-3rd gear felt a lot faster. The car is also running pig rich. At WOT the AFR will bog at 10. My car sat on the dyno for maybe 30 minutes.

The power I'm making is what others make on a FP Green, which is pretty sad. So I'm going to go get tuned somewhere else.

[PSIPROformance]

We can give you the right tune to make the power you want :)

[DaveSTi]

I know, they said they could. I'll get around to it.

I never did post up my numbers from Akuma with this FP Black, mainly because of how dissappointed I was with it.

350 WHP and I forget how much torque. Like 330 I think? I have to look at the dyno sheet. 25 PSI. Ivey had me at 352/346 on his dynojet with the stock turbo.

They do have a Mustang dyno, but the car honestly doesn't feel "faster" than it was with the stock turbo. The main differences are that the powerband is moved because of the lag, and it pulls harder at high speed runs. Besides that my previous set up had more torque, and 1st-3rd gear felt a lot faster. The car is also running pig rich. At WOT the AFR will bog at 10. My car sat on the dyno for maybe 30 minutes.

The power I'm making is what others make on a FP Green, which is pretty sad. So I'm going to go get tuned somewhere else.

Try Petey or CBRD.

[InvisibleMonkey]

damn. i'm disappointed with those numbers as well. i'd go with a different tuner though. i remember when justin nenni was tuning tim's supra it was on the dyno for hours. he only had issues when ivey did a half hour tune on the car

[Fujito]

I found the dyno sheet.

352/304

On Ivey's stock turbo tune I made 352/346. Dynojet vs MD though

[PAdutch]

I found the dyno sheet.

352/304

On Ivey's stock turbo tune I made 352/346. Dynojet vs MD though

Yeah those numbers are pretty bad. Did akuma tune it? Why did they leave it so rich and down on power?

[Reds82]

I wouldnt worry much about the numbers as much as i would about the afr. What is the afr on the sheet? Could need some tweaking for the street compared too the dyno load. I have seen cars come out of there with low numbers but trapped at speeds other cars with much more power do. Id get a hold off D or john see what they say and what they can do

[Fujito]

Dimitri doesn't work at Akuma anymore.

[Fujito]

Yeah those numbers are pretty bad. Did akuma tune it? Why did they leave it so rich and down on power?

yeah, AKuma did. I did ask for a relatively conservative tune because I still have my stock internals, but I wasn't expecting numbers this low, even if it's a MD.

I'm going to throw my car on a dynojet as is and see what it makes

[PAdutch]

Even for a conservative tune 10 AFR is way to rich. You deffinetly have alot of power left without the tune being unconservative. I would say being conservitive has more to do with timing than AFR.

Good luck on the dynojet, I'm curious.

[TalonTsi97]

Hit up KrazyHouse and have Peteyturbo tune it!!!!!!!!

[Reds82]

What was the afr on the dyno sheet?

[Fujito]

Hit up KrazyHouse and have Peteyturbo tune it!!!!!!!!

I sent Petey an email.

[jjm4life]

I sent Petey an email.

good move

[sundaybikes]

well at least it looks pretty

[TalonTsi97]

you hit up petey for questions or to actually get tuned? Need to hit up KrazyHouse to schedule a appointment usually.

Really hope to see you get it straightened out soon.

[Fujito]

subscribed.

Thought about getting a black, but this thread is giving me second thoughts.
Also heard that black is basically a stock spooling turbo that keeps it's top end if you don't have an upgraded engine.
Can this be why you don't feel any faster possibly?

Conservative Tune + late spooling turbo + 7k shifting based on internals.... mehhhhhh

For me, red it is on 425/370 (as far as the stock block is recommended to be pushed).
Even here I am going to throw in ARPs because I shift every gear at redline when having fun lol.

I have aggressive cams, so my redline is 8k.
If you had to choose between the black and red, it's always better to go with the black because the lag difference is barely noticeable, and you gain top end power.

As is the lag is fine. I don't mind it at all. Lag is overrated. When I'm just casually driving the car accelerates fine, and when I want to go fast it takes one more second to get into boost. Not a big deal to me.

[Fujito]

you hit up petey for questions or to actually get tuned? Need to hit up KrazyHouse to schedule a appointment usually.

Really hope to see you get it straightened out soon.

I inquired about some other stuff.

[TROLL]

Jesse your situation sounds really similar to mine when I went from the stock turbo on my STi motor to the green... I picked up 30 whp and 0 ft lbs of torque... it hits later and doesn't feel that much faster. I miss the low end and if I could do it over I would have stuck with my stock turbo setup!

[Got Insulin?]

Keep in mind that HP doesn't make your car feel any faster, TQ does.

[11secdsm]

The right tune will fix that right up.

[11secdsm]

A Black should make his car feel faster. :)

[Vince@R/TTuning]

Just for reference here is a tuned FP Red set up we did. The car had a built bottom end and it had Kelford 214A Cams. This was at 27lbs tapering to 24 at redline. With a FP black, torque would have pretty much stayed the same but would have flattened out and power would have climbed a lil harder....

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[jen.]

I found the dyno sheet.

352/304

On Ivey's stock turbo tune I made 352/346. Dynojet vs MD though

Regardless of it being a MD it still seems like something is off. I'm with everyone else as far as saying possibly getting the car retuned would help.

Keep in mind that HP doesn't make your car feel any faster, TQ does.

+100000.

[Fujito]

Yeah, well I have everything worked out with JM Fab. I'll be dropping the car off on 10/3 to get my ARC intake fabricated to be a 3.5" intake with 3.5" MAF housing.

I'm still figuring things out about the tune.

I also have to stop hanging out with Dimitri because I almost did buy a Do Luck trunk since he's been pressuring me to buy one forever.

Anyway, besides the intake and tune I just want to to get some Ralliart taillights and do a wing delete (fill holes and repaint trunk).

Once winter rolls around I'll hopefully have the funds for the motor build. I think Chris will be building it.

Spring time I want a few things:
-painted headlight housing
-blue BRIDE seats and maybe interior
-Varis rear diffuser

And that's all!

[morla]

Yeah, well I have everything worked out with JM Fab. I'll be dropping the car off on 10/3 to get my ARC intake fabricated to be a 3.5" intake with 3.5" MAF housing.

I'm still figuring things out about the tune.

I also have to stop hanging out with Dimitri because I almost did buy a Do Luck trunk since he's been pressuring me to buy one forever.

Anyway, besides the intake and tune I just want to to get some Ralliart taillights and do a wing delete (fill holes and repaint trunk).

Once winter rolls around I'll hopefully have the funds for the motor build. I think Chris will be building it.

Spring time I want a few things:
-painted headlight housing
-blue BRIDE seats and maybe interior
-Varis rear diffuser

And that's all!

I like where this is going. The do-luck didn't look right on my 9 but they look absolutely filthy on the X's. I may have to agree and say go for the do-luck. Blue Brides would be sick and I have never seen them in person but heard any pics online don't do them enough justice. Seems like you've got a good plan ahead of you. Love popping in your thread to scope out the madness you have created:lol:

[Fujito]

I agree that the Do Luck looks great on the X. It's just that I can't spend $1000+ on body parts anymore :lol:. To redo the trunk it'll probably cost me $300, and then I can sell the wing for around $250.

[Big_Jim]

how about the one that was for sale on here? or isnt it authentic?

[Fujito]

That's a knockoff. I can't bring myself to buy a replica.

[qbcsvt]

Do-Luck duckbill trunk is sick. But as for replica or authentic for a body part, its getting painted anyways it shouldn't matter (putting aside fitment).

- amyn

[Fujito]

It matters to me. I don't care what other people do, but I just can't buy a knock off part.

Anyway, it's still cheaper to just repaint my trunk.

[Got Insulin?]

If at some point you do re-do your interior, I may be interested in your stock seats and whatnot.

[Fujito]

Ok, I'll keep you in mind

[D Money]

Yeah, well I have everything worked out with JM Fab. I'll be dropping the car off on 10/3 to get my ARC intake fabricated to be a 3.5" intake with 3.5" MAF housing.

I'm still figuring things out about the tune.

I also have to stop hanging out with Dimitri because I almost did buy a Do Luck trunk since he's been pressuring me to buy one forever.

Anyway, besides the intake and tune I just want to to get some Ralliart taillights and do a wing delete (fill holes and repaint trunk).

Once winter rolls around I'll hopefully have the funds for the motor build. I think Chris will be building it.

Spring time I want a few things:
-painted headlight housing
-blue BRIDE seats and maybe interior
-Varis rear diffuser

And that's all!

Why would you stop hanging out with me? :-p

Where are the pics from the other night?

[D Money]

Keep in mind that HP doesn't make your car feel any faster, TQ does.

Um?

So you're saying even if the car made more power it wouldn't feel faster?

I drove my car last with 318whp and then just recently with 578whp. It felt a little faster. :wink:

I wonder if I will notice it next week when I fix my leak and tune it on race gas at 37psi. Probably not, especially if it doesn't make more tq. LOL

[M3GRL]

love love love your car!!!!!

[Foolinaround]

A car will accelerate hardest at its torque peak in any given gear, and will not accelerate as hard below that peak, or above it. Torque is the only thing that a driver feels, and horsepower is just sort of an esoteric measurement in that context. 300 foot pounds of torque will accelerate you just as hard at 2000 rpm as it would if you were making that torque at 4000 rpm in the same gear, yet, per the formula, the horsepower would be *double* at 4000 rpm. Therefore, horsepower isn't particularly meaningful from a driver's perspective, and the two numbers only get friendly at 5252 rpm, where horsepower and torque always come out the same.

So i think thats what he means

[Got Insulin?]

A car will accelerate hardest at its torque peak in any given gear, and will not accelerate as hard below that peak, or above it. Torque is the only thing that a driver feels, and horsepower is just sort of an esoteric measurement in that context. 300 foot pounds of torque will accelerate you just as hard at 2000 rpm as it would if you were making that torque at 4000 rpm in the same gear, yet, per the formula, the horsepower would be *double* at 4000 rpm. Therefore, horsepower isn't particularly meaningful from a driver's perspective, and the two numbers only get friendly at 5252 rpm, where horsepower and torque always come out the same.

So i think thats what he means

Thanks, newb. That's exactly what I meant.

[Fujito]

A car will accelerate hardest at its torque peak in any given gear, and will not accelerate as hard below that peak, or above it. Torque is the only thing that a driver feels, and horsepower is just sort of an esoteric measurement in that context. 300 foot pounds of torque will accelerate you just as hard at 2000 rpm as it would if you were making that torque at 4000 rpm in the same gear, yet, per the formula, the horsepower would be *double* at 4000 rpm. Therefore, horsepower isn't particularly meaningful from a driver's perspective, and the two numbers only get friendly at 5252 rpm, where horsepower and torque always come out the same.

So i think thats what he means

You forgot to quote your source.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html

[Fujito]

love love love your car!!!!!

Thanks love me long time?

[Fujito]

Why would you stop hanging out with me? :-p

Where are the pics from the other night?
I haven't uploaded them yet.

I'm dropping the car off at JM Fab on 10/3 and doing my tune on 10/8. Holla!

[Foolinaround]

You forgot to quote your source.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html

I felt like it wasnt neccesary,since it wasnt a complete copy pasta,although I could have cited it with (vetternet 1)

[Fujito]

I'm reporting you to the MODS!

[Forc3 F3d]

Um?

So you're saying even if the car made more power it wouldn't feel faster?

I drove my car last with 318whp and then just recently with 578whp. It felt a little faster. :wink:

I wonder if I will notice it next week when I fix my leak and tune it on race gas at 37psi. Probably not, especially if it doesn't make more tq. LOL

ahhhhh, ignorance is bliss!!!

hahahahaha

[D Money]

I haven't uploaded them yet.

I'm dropping the car off at JM Fab on 10/3 and doing my tune on 10/8. Holla!

Good stuff bro, good stuff. Let me know details.

ahhhhh, ignorance is bliss!!!

hahahahaha

yup. My car also makes over 500tq before 5k. :)

I wish someone would just lock it up but everyone wants to just play games online. So sad.

[Forc3 F3d]

Good stuff bro, good stuff. Let me know details.



yup. My car also makes over 500tq before 5k. :)

I wish someone would just lock it up but everyone wants to just play games online. So sad.

I never asked you what your car makes for TQ...

Just pointing out that you seem to be one of the more ignorant people I've "met". Thought that was pretty obvious

[D Money]

You've never met me. I litterally cannot stand you or the bull**** you post. I think you're a joke, and if I ever did meet you in person i'd tell you that right to your face. You wouldn't do **** about it either. :)

[DPancoast]

Silly tough guys. My Honda makes a million torque at 1rpm so **** all your noise

[D Money]

<3<3<3

[Forc3 F3d]

You've never met me. I litterally cannot stand you or the bull**** you post. I think you're a joke, and if I ever did meet you in person i'd tell you that right to your face. You wouldn't do **** about it either. :)

Notice the quotations! :wink:

[Fujito]

Something is wrong with the car. I'm consistently getting horrible gas mileage, like 10mpg on average. Before I did the recent set of upgrades I could get around 20-22 mpg doing highway driving. Now my car reads 14 best on the highway. City reads under 10, like 8 or 9 mpg. Just to be safe I'm going to fill the tank up and do the calculations manually since the computer is usually off.

I did basically redo the entire fuel system for my car.
-800cc HKS injectors
-HKS fuel rail
-Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
-Aeromotive fuel pump
-all the lines

I don't know if this horrible gas mileage is due to the pig rich tune I'm running right now or if it's something to do with the injectors or FPR. Maybe the injectors aren't properly dialed in?

Also, people have been telling me that while a rich tune is conservative and will save me from blowing up my motor, it will cause other kinds of problems. blahblafjblajflgdsjkas

[renn]

do the calculations manually and see what it comes out to. when i put in deatschwerks 850cc injectors in my STi i got significantly worse gas mileage (calculating manually)

i wouldnt be suprised if the computer is off a little bit, but 10 mpg isn't completely unreasonable. it probably runs really rich at idle and the computer might be reading weird cuz of that.

i never trust the computer mpg gauges though, the one in my base mini cooper would always say i got 20-24 no matter where or how i drove, and calculating manually i was getting around 35.

[DaveSTi]

Something is wrong with the car. I'm consistently getting horrible gas mileage, like 10mpg on average. Before I did the recent set of upgrades I could get around 20-22 mpg doing highway driving. Now my car reads 14 best on the highway. City reads under 10, like 8 or 9 mpg. Just to be safe I'm going to fill the tank up and do the calculations manually since the computer is usually off.

I did basically redo the entire fuel system for my car.
-800cc HKS injectors
-HKS fuel rail
-Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
-Aeromotive fuel pump
-all the lines

I don't know if this horrible gas mileage is due to the pig rich tune I'm running right now or if it's something to do with the injectors or FPR. Maybe the injectors aren't properly dialed in?

Also, people have been telling me that while a rich tune is conservative and will save me from blowing up my motor, it will cause other kinds of problems. blahblafjblajflgdsjkas

Take it to a reputable shop and have it diagnosed.

[11secdsm]

What are your wideband readings like at at WOT? If it's as rich as I think, it'll definitely give you some horrible gas mileage.

[total0wnage]

What are your wideband readings like at at WOT? If it's as rich as I think, it'll definitely give you some horrible gas mileage.

^this.

[TROLL]

Unless he's spending a big chunk of his time at WOT that probably wouldn't have a huge affect on gas mileage (although you're right Jesse, too rich can cause other issues).
What are your AFRs like at idle and cruising? Concerning gas mileage at least, this is what would affect your fuel consumption the most on a street car.

[D Money]

He has no wideband. I'd imagine it to be a significant difference with bigger diamater line, 340l/ph fuel pump, and 800cc injectors but not that bad.

Although everytime I seen this kid drive the car he's beating the **** out of it. LOL

[Chris B.]

800cc injectors may not be all that accurate at low/part throttle. I guess accuracy isn't the term I'm looking for. The amount of fuel delivered may not be consistent with the time the injectors is flowing. For example lets say the injector opens for 0.05 seconds at full throttle at 3000 RPM. At part throttle it may only open for 0.02 seconds at the same engine speed. However it will deliver more fuel that you would expect for being open only 40% of the time it is open at full throttle.

I've seen it happen in other cars where you have to spend some time tuning it at part throttle on the road to get it dialed in properly. I'm not sure how its measured in your engine management setup, but in most of the FoMoCO vehicles I've tuned, looking at long term fuel trim can tell you if its running way rich. It would be helpful if you had a wideband to look at while driving.

Or the other thing that may be happening is you have an injector that's not closing and staying open much longer than it should.

[PAdutch]

Sounds like your fuel trims are off. Do you have anyway to log them?

Also, Since you replaced FPR are you running a higher fuel pressure and didnt compensate for it?

[RayArroyo]

check your fuel trims, regardless on the size of the injector, if the trims are spot on you should not see any drastic changes in fuel consumption under cruise conditions. my ground rule when i tune is + /- 5%

[Fujito]

I have a wideband. It's 14-15 at cruise, so that's normal.

[11secdsm]

Unless he's spending a big chunk of his time at WOT that probably wouldn't have a huge affect on gas mileage (although you're right Jesse, too rich can cause other issues).
What are your AFRs like at idle and cruising? Concerning gas mileage at least, this is what would affect your fuel consumption the most on a street car.

Prior to putting a decent tune on my car, I was seeing 10.0 AFRs (and lower) even at partial throttle as soon as the car went into boost. Even only doing a few WOT throttle pulls now and then, i'd go through a tank of gas in around 100 miles. Considering the numbers he put up, I wouldn't doubt he's got a very rich tune in there.

[TROLL]

I didn't realize that the car is not tuned properly... but it sounds like that is the case? If so thats the obvious first move to make and the probable cause. Just stating the obvious :).

[11secdsm]

It's got a tune in it...from a shop mind you. But from the numbers it put down, it sounds reeeeallly conservative.

[Fujito]

It Boggs at 10 afrs at wot, which means it wants to read lower

[11secdsm]

That'll do it....

[Fujito]

I'm just concerned because the whole fuel system was basically redone.

Before I picked the car up I had to wait because they said that there was a fuel leak somewhere.

I thought the cruise AFR's were 12-14 because they bounce around like crazy, but today I set the car on cruise control and they read 14-15 which is good. I'm hoping this all has nothing to do with my injectors.

[DPancoast]

My gut says it's 98% your tune man.

So... It's time for a retune wherever the car was worked on... Or find another shop to do it.

My mr2 was that rich (wanting to go <10.0) on a stock ecu and fuel system. If you have the bells and whistles and upgraded everything then they need to be fine tuned big time.

That includes timing advance/retard and a more smooth fuel curve. Street tune is probably best and more accurate since it seems like you drive the car a lot/dd it. Just gotta get someone that knows their stuff to get it where it needs to be.

Who knows, you might get better mileage afterwards. Sounds like the injector duty cycle among many other things are dumping much more than needed.

[DaBombDiggidy]

try krazyhouse man they have a few evos there & they tune very well. Usually new injectors/fuel pump will dump 10s @ WOT even with a rescale (maybe they only "tuned" in a rescale for you), but sit 14.7 idle. you want to be at obviously 11.7 and a bit richer near redline to be safe and since your saying its pegging 10 that tells me the tune is real bad if not at stock rescaled settings. if you had a fuel leak id bet you would show lean #s, not rich.

oh and cruising should be around 14.7 on a steady foot or light/moderate accel. any boost/blowoff will throw the afrs off for a split second

[Foolinaround]

You need a tune correction from the original tuner,or a better tune.

[RayArroyo]

I have a wideband. It's 14-15 at cruise, so that's normal.

when the ecu is in closed loop it will always maintain your af at 14-15 at cruise, your fuel trims could still be off therefore causing the ecu to correct fuel short and long term.

your fuel trims values basically demonstrate the percentage of fuel your ecu is adding or subtracting in order to maintain your stoich reading. so while your af at cruise may appear to look good if your ecu is correcting for fuel, it will hinder your fuel economy.

I hope this made sense , i tried to make it as simple as i could with out getting technical.

[97TurboDSM]

Who tuned this if it's reading 10.0 at WOT? That's awful.

[Reds82]

Ive also read that the 340 pumps push alot of volume midrange ryan had issue get my car run right it would dip really rich and bog in lower rpms at wot. if i remember after work ill try to find the info on it to send it too you might be part of the problem not just the tune

[Forc3 F3d]

^^
akuma, if I'm not mistaken. Time to take it to petey at KHC.

[DaveSTi]

^^
akuma, if I'm not mistaken. Time to take it to petey at KHC.

Yup.


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[Fujito]

Yeahhhh I'll get it all set up.

On a side note, I ordered a carbon fiber Do Luck trunk. It will be here by the end of the month :mrgreen:

[sundaybikes]

i was hoping for you that one in the marketplace for would authentic, but good to head you decided to get one anyways

[DaveSTi]

Yeahhhh I'll get it all set up.

On a side note, I ordered a carbon fiber Do Luck trunk. It will be here by the end of the month :mrgreen:

Nice!! So much for being broke haha

I want one of those trunks too. Excited to see yours


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[Fujito]

I just want to take that ****ing wing off.

Girls hate it. I don't like it. It's not classy

[Fujito]

I have a tune with Petey on the 29th.

He's only there on Saturdays and I have MOD this Sat and FCF the next week, and he won't be there the following... so the 29th it is.

[RayArroyo]

I have a tune with Petey on the 29th.

He's only there on Saturdays and I have MOD this Sat and FCF the next week, and he won't be there the following... so the 29th it is.

ill actually be there that same day :) we are tuning the 3065 on my evo and tuning my buddies car from ny. can wait to see what your baby really has in her!!!!!!!:mrgreen:

[TalonTsi97]

Sounds like the 29th is shaping up to be a nice day at KHC. Hopefully i'll be able to make it out but i highly doubt it.

[AshleyX]

I just want to take that ****ing wing off.

Girls hate it. I don't like it. It's not classy

i like the wing its nice but the do luck is nice too

[SpoolinDSM]

Holy sh*t, your car just gave me an instant erection. Sick X man.

[Fujito]

The car is finally getting retuned in November.

My wideband gauge crapped out last Monday. It is stuck at 14.8. I think a wire somewhere melted? One of the wires coming from my boost gauge was left sitting on my intake from Akuma and was slowly melting away... so it wouldn't surprise me if the wideband breaking has something to do with poor placement.

And I've been doing a lot of thinking about the motor build... My options are:

1. Sell the FP Black and buy a FP Green or HKS GTII or CBRD BBX (lite) and keep the car as is everywhere else. 800cc injectors is plenty for those turbos.

2. Go all out. Motor build. Meth. bigger injectors. Different fuel rail. beef up the transmission. etc etc...

I'm still not completely sure yet. Part of me wants to just get the smaller turbo and call it a day, and the other part of me wants to finish the car. If you know me you'd know that I'm not a speed freak, I don't street race, and I don't track the car. I do drive hard every day, but I don't go too far beyond the speed limit because I am very paranoid about getting a huge ticket.

[dudewheresmycar]

throw a nice little turbo on there and enjoy it..





...but you probably won't lol

[Fujito]

There's a local person (Maryland) selling a brand new HKS GT II 7560. It's about the same price as my FP Black. I'm seriously considering buying that and stopping. Honestly, if I keep going with this motor build I don't think it will ever end. I use the same justification. "I already spent this much, so might as well just buy that."

[g0dzuki]

To be honest....if you build the motor....you'll enjoy the car but....probably not the potential headaches that may ensue afterwards....

I'd say put on a smaller turbo, retune to a safe degree and enjoy the **** out of the car....

If you really want to build a motor....buy an Evo 6 and build the piss out of that :D

[TROLL]

I'm also going to recommend going with a smaller turbo and just enjoying the car. I know a lot of people with highly modified cars who say they wish they kept it simpler, myself included. A lot of times there's a sweet spot with cost/enjoyment/reliability and its easy to blow right past it without realizing until there's no turning back.

[boostedfury]

agreed with the previous thoughts.. If you enjoy it a ton already and don't plan to bracket race, drag race, or road course etc, throw a turbo with a good powerband and low to mid-end range power and not worry about a high hp number. It will last forever, be less hassle and won't lead to the common road of because I did this I now need a better trans, which then needs a stronger clutch, which then need better axles and beefier driveshaft etc.

[Reds82]

Smaller turbo and get a second tune for e85 or c16 when you feel like stretching its legs

[Asif22]

I'm also going to recommend going with a smaller turbo and just enjoying the car. I know a lot of people with highly modified cars who say they wish they kept it simpler, myself included. A lot of times there's a sweet spot with cost/enjoyment/reliability and its easy to blow right past it without realizing until there's no turning back.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Truth.

[Spininall4s]

smaller turbo on e85 and have a map for pump gas ...only reason i say stay away from meth is that you just allow for more things to fail and if that meth goes when your up in boost so does your motor. id just keep it evenly rounded...its really about balance anyway just my $.02

[Fujito]

**** it. I'm just going to finish what I started.

[renn]

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/6590021/480/Meme/So-Hardcore.jpg?v0

[Fujito]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khbel2p7ou0&feature=related

[renn]

well played.

[Fujito]

My ARC intake is for sale.
$495 shipped. If you know someone with an X tell them.

[Fujito]

So this is all I need to buy. I'm getting the Primo intake for free!

1. Primo 3.5" intake
2. Perrin 3port
3. AMS fuel rail
4. FIC 1100cc injectors
5. Buschur diff pins
6. Speed Circuit 2.0L motor
-JE pistons
-Manley Rods

[DaveSTi]

I have a brand new in box Perrin 3 port I can sell you.

[Fujito]

I have a brand new in box Perrin 3 port I can sell you.

PM me a price

[Honduh]

I use the same justification. "I already spent this much, so might as well just buy that."

Exactly how my build went. It was suppose to be a simple 1 year build and now its been 3 years and twice as much as I expected to spend.

[blue91lx]

The car is finally getting retuned in November.

My wideband gauge crapped out last Monday. It is stuck at 14.8. I think a wire somewhere melted? One of the wires coming from my boost gauge was left sitting on my intake from Akuma and was slowly melting away... so it wouldn't surprise me if the wideband breaking has something to do with poor placement.



Same thing happened to my AEM Wideband. The wires are fried in the back.

[Fujito]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6044/6303129527_f3fae8f0ea_b.jpg

[TalonTsi97]

Should just sell yours, buy this, and be done with it: http://forums.evolutionm.net/sale-cars-sale/581733-nj-fs-akumas-shop-evo-x.html

[Fujito]

I'm done with the car anyway. Now that it's colder this tune is even worse. I'm scared to go WOT because when I do it feels like the turbo is surging. Also, sometimes when I start the car the idle is at like 500 and it feels like it's going to die. When out of the powerband the car bogs down when I give it gas. Soooo I'd be a little reluctant to buy a car from Akuma. This tune is crap.

[nuTinmuch]

I'm surprised, considering all the good things I've heard about them.

Guess Evos aren't their thing.

[ketchup!]

I'm done with the car anyway. Now that it's colder this tune is even worse. I'm scared to go WOT because when I do it feels like the turbo is surging. Also, sometimes when I start the car the idle is at like 500 and it feels like it's going to die. When out of the powerband the car bogs down when I give it gas. Soooo I'd be a little reluctant to buy a car from Akuma. This tune is crap.

why not get a tune from somewhere else? like cough...psi proformance...cough

[total0wnage]

I'm done with the car anyway. Now that it's colder this tune is even worse. I'm scared to go WOT because when I do it feels like the turbo is surging. Also, sometimes when I start the car the idle is at like 500 and it feels like it's going to die. When out of the powerband the car bogs down when I give it gas. Soooo I'd be a little reluctant to buy a car from Akuma. This tune is crap.

my car had the same problems after i installed the intake. im doing a Etune with bryan(razorlab) right now.

[Whitekryptonit3]

I'm done with the car anyway. Now that it's colder this tune is even worse. I'm scared to go WOT because when I do it feels like the turbo is surging. Also, sometimes when I start the car the idle is at like 500 and it feels like it's going to die. When out of the powerband the car bogs down when I give it gas. Soooo I'd be a little reluctant to buy a car from Akuma. This tune is crap.



Get Petey to tune it.

[Oakes]

Surprised you didnt have Petey do it from the start

[Got Insulin?]

Hopefully the Lude is seeing more miles than the Evo right now as to not keep running the car in that condition.

[TalonTsi97]

my car had the same problems after i installed the intake. im doing a Etune with bryan(razorlab) right now.
Have peteyturbo @ krazyhouse customs tune it!!!!!!! E-tunes are horrible, only people i ever see who have great reviews are people who realistically don't know what there doing and there thinking they got a good tune.

Get Petey to tune it.
Exactly!

Surprised you didnt have Petey do it from the start
He should be by now, it'll make a HUGE difference.

[Forc3 F3d]

E-tunes are horrible, only people i ever see who have great reviews are people who realistically don't know what there doing and there thinking they got a good tune.

:bigeek: what are you talking about??

[856jersey]

Damn I'm sorry to hear about all the problems with the car.... By far the best looking Evo X I've ever seen. Hope ya figure out everything :(

[blue91lx]

:bigeek: what are you talking about??

E-tunes are horrible, as it's an educated guess as to what your maps should look like; we all know every car is different. A lot of people like to confuse e-tunes with remote tuning, and that is a world of a difference.

[TalonTsi97]

:bigeek: what are you talking about??

E-tunes are horrible, as it's an educated guess as to what your maps should look like; we all know every car is different. A lot of people like to confuse e-tunes with remote tuning, and that is a world of a difference.

I've seen enough e-tuners claim to be good and get $$ out of people when there tunes weren't worth crap to be confident in saying that. I know forc3 f3d had a mellon e-tune for his evo, and mellon is respected in the evo world but for the amount of e-tunes i've seen I'd never do one. Theres way more then enough local tuners that there is no reason for it. His situation is dif, living out of the country. It's kids who don't know any better, pay for these internet hyped "tooners", have a horrible experience yet keep making excuses to everyone they know how it takes time and blah blah then get a tune and have no idea that problems there having is connected to the e-tune.

[Forc3 F3d]

I've seen enough e-tuners claim to be good and get $$ out of people when there tunes weren't worth crap to be confident in saying that. I know forc3 f3d had a mellon e-tune for his evo, and mellon is respected in the evo world but for the amount of e-tunes i've seen I'd never do one. Theres way more then enough local tuners that there is no reason for it. His situation is dif, living out of the country. It's kids who don't know any better, pay for these internet hyped "tooners", have a horrible experience yet keep making excuses to everyone they know how it takes time and blah blah then get a tune and have no idea that problems there having is connected to the e-tune.

Well now that you elaborated a little more, I see what you're saying.

However, there are a lot of good remote tuners. Mellon and English racing just to name a couple.

[Slevin]

I've seen enough e-tuners claim to be good and get $$ out of people when there tunes weren't worth crap to be confident in saying that. I know forc3 f3d had a mellon e-tune for his evo, and mellon is respected in the evo world but for the amount of e-tunes i've seen I'd never do one. Theres way more then enough local tuners that there is no reason for it. His situation is dif, living out of the country. It's kids who don't know any better, pay for these internet hyped "tooners", have a horrible experience yet keep making excuses to everyone they know how it takes time and blah blah then get a tune and have no idea that problems there having is connected to the e-tune.

this 100000000%. if you can't afford or make time to tune your car you shouldn't even mod it (not saying op or people that posted can't). It's like a doctor saying "oh my last patient had similar symptoms as you so i'm gonna prescribe the same medicine to you." no, not happening. get it tuned by a reputable tuner (in this case petey) and you won't have a tune related problem.

[Fujito]

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with this build yet. There's some talk about beta testing the new MAP turbo's, but I'm looking at the current for sale threads for FP Blacks and they are not moving. $1650 shipped for all of them and no buyers yet...

[Got Insulin?]

Ah, the problem with putting expensive parts on your car: Everyone who wants them couldn't afford them if the first place and you get stuck with 'em. BTDT

[Fujito]

Yeah, I think I'm just going to start saving money and decide in a month.

What sucks is either route I go I have to change something. It was bad planning on my part when I bought these injectors and fuel rail, but someone who has a smaller stock frame turbo will appreciate them if I decide to sell them.