Iranian Elections

[c0nfl1kt]

This might not be the right community for this sort of conversation, but I'd like to hear people's thoughts on the situation. Please discuss your opinion. Please, be respectful when responding and keep the same in mind when replying. Thanks.

[Scapegoat]

lol... elections in Iran... yeah, ok

[lagos]

very interesting whats going on over there.
i hope they get a proper and fair recount.

[c0nfl1kt]

Do you think that Ahaminejad rigged the elections? All common sense points towards the probability, but what do YOU think?

[The Captain]

i think it's pretty obvious. I'm just really sick of this stuff though. Getting involved in another country is the last thing we need.

[c0nfl1kt]

i think it's pretty obvious. I'm just really sick of this stuff though. Getting involved in another country is the last thing we need.

Getting sick of what stuff specifically?

[The Captain]

All the corrupt BS that seems to continually go on over there.

[99blazer]

All the corrupt BS that seems to continually go on everywhere

Fixed.

[c0nfl1kt]

All the corrupt BS that seems to continually go on over there.

How do you think that affects world politics? We simply can't ignore it. We are a global community of interlinked economies, cultures, and ideals. We can't just simply sit back and say, "Well, it's their problem not ours". How does that make you feel? Do you agree or disagree, and why?

[The Captain]

I agree it is a world problem...not simply the US's problem. I just get annoyed by the attitudes that other european countries take. If we dont do anything, shame on us for not getting involved, if we do something, shame on us for getting involved. If the UN was more than a nice idea, I'd be a happier person.

[c0nfl1kt]

I agree it is a world problem...not simply the US's problem. I just get annoyed by the attitudes that other european countries take. If we dont do anything, shame on us for not getting involved, if we do something, shame on us for getting involved. If the UN was more than a nice idea, I'd be a happier person.

Yeah, I totally agree with your assessment. The UN is a parliamentary figure that needs to either be re-written or dissolved. The US, as bad as foreign policy has been towards the global community in the past decade, is finally starting to strut towards a new understanding of a global community.

Europe has always been elitist, but we can not be complete without their support. They have done several things right, including the formation of the EU. Dozens of countries who had been at each others throats for the past millenia are now working in unison. That, my friend, is a prologue to the building blocks of a more united earth. Still, their views and stances on a lot of things are hands off whilst having a very strong opinion. In other words: outdated and archaic.

I think it's a transitional period in our period. It's how they say in football: Hellmary time. I don't think as a community we can let the Iranian president go untouched, but we can't touch him. I just hope that justice prevails and they see the fluke for what it was. An elaborately staged rigged election to give power to someone who clearly has very violent plans for Iran and refuses to see the real future.

[2001teg]

I believe their election most deffinatly was rigged. The news was saying some 40million HAND written ballots were counted in just a few hour. Iran's leader seems to have total control over everything, so him having his hand in the election is probable. Not to mention im sure he instills fear in most of the people. On another note I believe the people of his country know the truth. Their rioting and and having a fit.

[Elliott18t]

landslide win........................... ... LMAO :rofl:



the riots are because everyone is soooo overjoyed w/ his re-election :roll:

[importpower99]

they were rigged

[c0nfl1kt]

40,000,000 votes counted in 2 hours? No way.

[lagos]

you would figure that countries like that would at least get good at rigging elections by now.

[poolmike]

Only slightly different than our last presidential election......

[ozthunder]

Elections are rigged all the time. Do they come here and bitch about it? Do they have election monitors set up in the United States to see if the process was fair and democratic? Remember, per Bush v. Gore, we do not have a constitutional right to vote for the electors for the president of the United States. Bush, 531 U.S. at 104. So what makes you think we can confer rights on others?

I say stay out. If there were legitimate grievances, then the Iranian people should be able to take matters into their own hands. If they need relief, we should do it ex post. Anything before is a gross miscalculation of our abilities and powers worldwide.

[lagos]

last i checked the US is not getting involved at all. this is just a news story for us to sit back and watch.

[ozthunder]

I was responding primarily to conflict's post.

I do not disagree that we are not a global community; but interference or anything of the sort with something as foundational as elections is a dangerous cat to skin.

[**Alex**]

How bout in todays local paper they showed a protestor with his head blown off. I was WTF this doin in newspaper.

[DC2.2GSR]

How bout in todays local paper they showed a protestor with his head blown off. I was WTF this doin in newspaper.

why wouldn't it be in the newspaper? other countries show the terrible effects of war on TV and in the newspapers all the time. it shows how disgusting war is and keeps people aware of what's really going on. american "news" is a complete joke. frontmen/women spewing lies and filtered stories that are deemed appropriate for TV. if all of a sudden americans were to be shown the horrors that go on in other countries and even our own, there'd be chaos. people have been so overprotected. that's what's sickening, not a newspaper photo showing reality.

[**Alex**]

I understand that. Just that I never ever see English media/press with any photographs of dead bodies. I know Puerto Rico Nuevo Dia and I forgot the other one always has in color pics of dead bodies left and right along with their stories.

[lagos]

I understand that. Just that I never ever see English media/press with any photographs of dead bodies. I know Puerto Rico Nuevo Dia and I forgot the other one always has in color pics of dead bodies left and right along with their stories.

thats because our media coverage (especially of the iraq war) is controlled by the government.

[c0nfl1kt]

thats because our media coverage (especially of the iraq war) is controlled by the government.

Hey, this isn't a thread about questioning the legality of this nation's free media. Please discuss your opinions about the Iranian Elections. Thanks.

[06evors]

Our government is watching the elections closely but Ahmahdinejad (sp?) is the choice of the clans/parties and harcore islamist that run the country. As for whether the US is involved with Iran as a whole shouldn't be a question. Our "unbreakable" ties with Israel make the US just as hated as Irael to the Arab counties that want to see the two wiped off the map.

[c0nfl1kt]

Actually, if you back into news archives you will see that the Mullahs did NOT support the rigged outcome that is. The Shieks also do not support Ahaminejad. But, in the end, Ahaminejad is a powerless leader in a country that is run by the religious sect. Still, Iranian people want their own person to represent them at the table, not some guy who claimed he had won after 40,000,000 votes had allegedly been counted. I think it's time for the international community to boycott the validity of the outcome. The US can not do this alone, as it will then be seen as another "bully" move.

[06evors]

Boycotting will get nothing accomplished imo. He's their leader time to keep dispelling his fanatical views that the holocost didn't happen and Israel is a terrorist regime.