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TROLL
12-07-2005, 06:24 PM
i realized a few nights ago that some people dont worry all that much about taking their summer rubber out into the snow. seemed like a kind of "oh well i'll just be real careful and be fine" kind of thing. i'm just wondering how many out there are really doing this.
i'll say it now and i'll only say it once... i've heard of more intelligent things in my day. but anyways i wont harp on you anymore, just curious to see how widespread this practice is...
bryan

jspek
12-07-2005, 06:27 PM
coming from a guy that said "man snow tires are overrated. im selling mine" lmao

Intercooled T
12-07-2005, 06:28 PM
i still have my drag radials on the GN.

TROLL
12-07-2005, 06:29 PM
snow tires are overrated if you want to go play in 1 or 2 inches of snow yeah! i was wishing for way less traction out there. when we were on street road i was outlaunching and outbraking barry by buslengths though... haha.
bryan

92dxman
12-07-2005, 06:34 PM
I got all seasons installed on Sunday after it snowed. The trek to Pep Boys was made on my summer tires. I'm glad the roads were not covered at least.

S4toSTI
12-07-2005, 06:42 PM
meeeee

SilverTurboRidin
12-07-2005, 06:44 PM
i got my summer tires on

99SL2_Modder
12-07-2005, 07:02 PM
Me, but not like it matters. They're supposed to be AWP, but snow ratings are below most AWP tires....

They go in straight lines fine. Turning, however, sucks the big one.

US_R33
12-07-2005, 07:05 PM
driving on summer tires in winter conditions, even w/o snow on the ground is not the wisest choice you can make. the biggest issue is the fact that summer compounds are not designed to operate properly when the temps drop below 50 or so degrees, so you will have increased stopping distances, loss of traction at times you don't expect (even when the ground is dry) and just overall poor performance

if you enjoy your car there is no cheaper insurance in the winter time than buying a decent set of all season tires and saving the sticky summer tires for when it gets warm out again (unless of course you own a beater car)

okay i've said my piece

Late,
Daniel

P.S. I'm running the Falken Ziex ZE 512s on my 33 during the winter time

igo4bmx
12-07-2005, 07:14 PM
i've driven my kumho 712's on the snow...
I WILL NEVER MAKE THAT MISTAKE EVER AGAIN

BradC
12-07-2005, 08:01 PM
driving on summer tires in winter conditions, even w/o snow on the ground is not the wisest choice you can make. the biggest issue is the fact that summer compounds are not designed to operate properly when the temps drop below 50 or so degrees, so you will have increased stopping distances, loss of traction at times you don't expect (even when the ground is dry) and just overall poor performance

if you enjoy your car there is no cheaper insurance in the winter time than buying a decent set of all season tires and saving the sticky summer tires for when it gets warm out again (unless of course you own a beater car)

okay i've said my piece

Late,
Daniel

P.S. I'm running the Falken Ziex ZE 512s on my 33 during the winter time

Besides the PS, :iagree:

Summer tires loose tons of grip and wear much,much faster (and tend to chunk) in cold weather.

99SL2_Modder
12-07-2005, 08:02 PM
driving on summer tires in winter conditions, even w/o snow on the ground is not the wisest choice you can make. the biggest issue is the fact that summer compounds are not designed to operate properly when the temps drop below 50 or so degrees, so you will have increased stopping distances, loss of traction at times you don't expect (even when the ground is dry) and just overall poor performance

if you enjoy your car there is no cheaper insurance in the winter time than buying a decent set of all season tires and saving the sticky summer tires for when it gets warm out again (unless of course you own a beater car)

okay i've said my piece

Late,
Daniel

P.S. I'm running the Falken Ziex ZE 512s on my 33 during the winter time

Yeah, I noticed my uber type arrrgh vtec yo jdm mad tyte wheelspin on downshifts at lot.

olmytsi
12-07-2005, 08:13 PM
I do and thats all i can afford. I dont have enough $ or space to store an extra set of rims for winter driving. I have kumho supra ecsta tires...anyone kno how bad they are in the snow?

99SL2_Modder
12-07-2005, 08:17 PM
I do and thats all i can afford. I dont have enough $ or space to store an extra set of rims for winter driving. I have kumho supra ecsta tires...anyone kno how bad they are in the snow?

Same. I have an extra set of rims, but no extra tires.

And how are they in the snow? Guess you'll find out.

subwrxkid
12-07-2005, 08:19 PM
The wrx runs Yokahama prada spec II's all year round. I figure it will see the road when its dry rather than snow. Now my hyundai elantra on the other hand is equipped with some snow tires, since thats my vehicle of choice to go play in the snow, the wrx usually stays home. She doesnt like to come out and play in the snow.

WKderF
12-07-2005, 08:58 PM
I just switched from my Nitto summer tires to my stock all season bridgestone RE92s. they suck in the snow but they are manageable as long as im careful. and to tell u the truth, i would rather be running on the stock wheels and tires than risk damaging one of my good wheels or having the wrong tire compound for the season.

Who remembers last winter when i hit the snow running my bald falken azenis?!?!?!

I learned my lesson.

2point4DSM
12-07-2005, 09:00 PM
The DSM and Pilot have all-season tires. Who needs grippy tires when you got AWD....








Although I do wish I could put drag radials on the GSX one day and not have to worry about destroying something.

blkbomber01
12-07-2005, 09:02 PM
i still have my michelin v-rated (crappy in cold weather) tires on my car... not like im pushin a ton of hp but they still suck. im to lazy to put my winter tires on

92talonTSI
12-07-2005, 09:02 PM
The DSM and Pilot have all-season tires. Who needs grippy tires when you got AWD....








Although I do wish I could put drag radials on the GSX one day and not have to worry about destroying something.
AWD rules :D
yeah im using summer tires, simply becasue i cant afford winter tires atm. i need another job besides the one i have for more cash :[

dolphinS4
12-07-2005, 09:09 PM
I'll never run summers in the winter again. AWD, FWD, RWD, it doesn't matter, summer tires and cold weather can be a more costly situation than buying 4 new snow tires.

First year w/AWD and the Michelin Pilot Alpin's. Bring on the snow, I'm ready.

ho1ywars
12-07-2005, 09:16 PM
im on bald fuzion ZRis

im not going anywhere in the snow.

99SL2_Modder
12-07-2005, 09:26 PM
i still have my michelin v-rated (crappy in cold weather) tires on my car... not like im pushin a ton of hp but they still suck. im to lazy to put my winter tires on

Cause you can even move with 2" of snow on the ground, mr. plow.

BradC
12-07-2005, 09:56 PM
Who needs grippy tires when you got AWD....

Does AWD help when steering and braking?

US_R33
12-07-2005, 11:04 PM
Does AWD help when steering and braking?
it could help if you had 2 way diffs in the front and rear diffs.......but even then the diffs are designed to optimally work in dry conditions w/sticky tires on the car

US_R33
12-07-2005, 11:06 PM
Yeah, I noticed my uber type arrrgh vtec yo jdm mad tyte wheelspin on downshifts at lot.
that made a lot of sense :thumbup:

99SL2_Modder
12-07-2005, 11:20 PM
that made a lot of sense :thumbup:

downshift = wheelspin. That's the cliffnotes.

US_R33
12-07-2005, 11:47 PM
downshift = wheelspin. That's the cliffnotes.
ah yes....thank you for the translated version :-p

05Accent
12-07-2005, 11:51 PM
yea well im still rollin with my stock all season tires..havent got rims yet.. waitin for spring to get some.. still dont know what to get yet

turbo4g63
12-08-2005, 12:00 AM
i'm still rollin with my summer tires, i can't afford snowies w/ steelies, and i'm not putting snow tires on stock rims anyway. but i made it through a snowy winter last year with bald cheapo kumho's, i figure i can make it through another winter with decent hanooks

Vypurr
12-08-2005, 12:01 AM
I almost died last year running KDW-2's, and that was with less thatn 1/4". I will NEVER EVER try that again. Instead I just pull out the winter beater!

Raven18940
12-08-2005, 01:40 AM
I'm putting snow tires on the front of my car, with "all-season" performance tires aft. Should make for some fun handling in the snow, but I won't have to worry about not making it up a hill like to had to last time.

TROLL
12-08-2005, 02:20 AM
IMO, if you cant afford two sets of tires, then you should be stuck in all-season land. running summers year round on purpose is... well, unfortunately i have a feeling some of you will learn the hard way. all, front, or rear wheel drive, all cars use the same two wheels to turn and the same to brake, and thats where it matters in an emergency situation.
what i would recommend to those on a budget, is come april or may keep an eye on the personal for sale section of your favorite forum... the demand is way down for winter tires then and people are generally looking to dump them off. thats how i picked up mine for cheap.
bryan

fastjim
12-08-2005, 03:40 AM
i got summers on my saturn now but i dont feel like changing them even though i got the stocks in the back yard but the scoob has its all seasons so when it snows alot ill just use that but wait the saturn is fully insured and i cant seem to sell it so i will be driving that even when it snows just incase there is a person out there who cant drive and is looking to buy it... haha j/k ... but not really!

PSI Chick
12-08-2005, 09:29 AM
i'm still on my usual tires. then again, i don't really drive the srt in the winter so it doesn't matter. it's going in the garage in a week or so not to be seen again until like march. well, it will be coming out for a few days to get torn apart and all my new toys installed, but that's about it......

MuddyREX
12-08-2005, 09:38 AM
I'm running all season/sport tires year round. I can't afford to spend 500 bucks on winters.

smoger
12-08-2005, 09:55 AM
i still have summer tires on my srt































but its parked in the garage :lol:

SilverTurboRidin
12-08-2005, 10:08 AM
Ahh well the SRT has two front snow tires and still has KDW's on teh rear

IBLIS
12-08-2005, 10:52 AM
i still have my summer tires on, our civic has the all seasons :)

markley02
12-08-2005, 11:18 AM
Changing out tires tonight. I changed the rear last week

Adamblitzer
12-08-2005, 12:19 PM
i have my strict super summer radials on... but i dont drive in the winter... well the sti at least.

sisforsurfing
12-08-2005, 12:57 PM
I'm running all season/sport tires year round. I can't afford to spend 500 bucks on winters.
Same, I can't afford it, hopefully next year. I can keep it safe on all-seasons... not optimal, but it works.

AWD cars on summers in the snow are just as bad as anything else, way worse than RWD cars on snows. And people with grippier tires on front, I'm not an expert, but from what I've read from the experts, you'll be better off in a straight line but are taking chances going around corners... i know a kid in an Audi that had a terrible experience last year. Not preaching, just don't want anyone getting any damage.

smoger
12-08-2005, 01:03 PM
i drove the srt last winter with all seasons and it wasnt too bad for when i NEEDED to be out, but bad enough that i wouldnt go out if i had a choice.

so.. yeah you can scrape by with all seasons, esp. with awd

BobErT-
12-08-2005, 01:07 PM
Dont feel bad Troll, i still got mine on, ima go play a little in a big open parking lot with them ;)

IIelizaII
12-08-2005, 02:12 PM
i actually just bought (about a month or so ago) a new pair of summer tires, and im rockin them all winter. not the smartest thing in the world, but my car sucks in the snow regardless.

xEJ20x
12-08-2005, 02:15 PM
I running on all-season Dunlops. :mrgreen:

mostasteless
12-08-2005, 02:52 PM
I attempted to drive my Prelude in the snow with Parada's on it, not a smart move. Now that I can't afford 2 sets of wheels I just run P-zero M+S all year on the rex. haven't had the chance to test them on a good amount of snow yet but if the reviews are at all accurate they should work well.

silver05bullet
12-08-2005, 03:05 PM
All seasons if that counts there not true summer tires

US_R33
12-08-2005, 04:00 PM
i wouldn't recommend running just snow/all-season tires up front and summer tires in the rear, even when under braking the rear end is going to be more likely to want to come around and swap ends :eek: def. not something anybody wants when trying to stop in traffic

MPowerKai
12-09-2005, 12:56 AM
M3 is on blizzak LM-22's BUT the S2000 is still on Potenza S03's. I took it out for a spin tonight not bad but the roads are dry

2000MRDC2
12-09-2005, 01:17 AM
i've driven my kumho 712's on the snow...
I WILL NEVER MAKE THAT MISTAKE EVER AGAIN

thats how I lost my front lip on teh Si

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/99ElectronBlueCivicSi/Front2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/99ElectronBlueCivicSi/Front3.jpg

JuniorRSX
12-10-2005, 06:23 PM
My stupid ass still has my summer tires on.... thats why i'm stuck in da house bored as sh!t waitin for my dilivery from tire rack to come. i didn't even bother to dig the car out from under the snow.

2Mopars1Ford
12-10-2005, 06:49 PM
71 plymouth had 2656014 goodrich radial ta's on the back-drove 2 years all year round
71 demon drove with 2357514s general grand prixs all the way around, year round for 8 years (this car hauled in the snow, many a time did I pass suvs and trucks)
95 mustang gt 2454517 with kdws's drove 3 years same tires all yaer round (had trouble with some hills on packed snow.
02 mustang GT stock 2454517 drove 1 year on them all year (PIA)
This year I'm driving a minivan on the days it snows or the raods are too crapped up with salt.

BobErT-
12-11-2005, 02:50 AM
Ya, i can deffinetly tell you, dont drive on ice or snow with summer tires, i tested it just to see really how bad it was, and i tell you what, you slide even before you touch the gas.

DomZ
12-11-2005, 04:21 AM
Still sportin' Sumitomo HTRZII's 255/40-17's

Raven18940
12-11-2005, 08:35 AM
i wouldn't recommend running just snow/all-season tires up front and summer tires in the rear, even when under braking the rear end is going to be more likely to want to come around and swap ends :eek: def. not something anybody wants when trying to stop in traffic
Meh, that depends on the car. I just put snow on my front and it's not hard at all to keep the back undercontrol. Of course my car is not only the understeer king, but has a very forgiving long wheelbase and excellent handling feel. I wouldn't try it on a short wheelbase car or something with numb handling.

UnderPoweredRS
12-11-2005, 09:10 AM
I was home from active duty last winter for two weeks. I didn't both to change over to my winters and I smacked a curb going like 5mph. big time damage. Dented the fender curbed one of my 98 golds and bent a control arm. Ended up just getting a new control arm and getting the wheel rebalanced. Man that sucked I had to walk like a mile in the snow to get back to my house. (cell phone was dead) It was def. cold as sh*t.

i realized a few nights ago that some people dont worry all that much about taking their summer rubber out into the snow. seemed like a kind of "oh well i'll just be real careful and be fine" kind of thing. i'm just wondering how many out there are really doing this.
i'll say it now and i'll only say it once... i've heard of more intelligent things in my day. but anyways i wont harp on you anymore, just curious to see how widespread this practice is...
bryan

347gtvert
12-11-2005, 11:45 AM
I got my summer tires on....fun fun fun....actually its like "Sh*t SH*t Sh*t"

255/45/17 all around.....

slavetothemuzic
12-11-2005, 01:05 PM
I don't do "winter wheels" on my car, since I have a "winter car" :lol:

I won't drive the car if it's not safe though. If the roads are bad at all, I roll in the Jeep, just to be safe.

95nracer
12-11-2005, 01:26 PM
I picked up a set of almost new Blizzaks for $250 from the Junk Yard. A guy turned in a truck and they where sitting in the bed and the guy said they only have at the most 300 miles. They look new so I picked them up that day before anybody else could pick them up. You can still get winter's for fairly cheap. I picked up a set of Winterforces for the van and they where around 50 bucks brand new.

I have the winter tires on both vehicles with the stock wheels. The summers for the van is in storage and the wheels for the car are getting sold as soon as someone wants them. I just picked up a set of Advan wheels for the car for this spring.

white2000neon
12-11-2005, 02:35 PM
Yea the first snow storm i had the summer tires on and after that im like hell no i put the stock 14's on with the all seasons. Not as much fun drifting though.

Vypurr
12-11-2005, 03:42 PM
^ No offense, but you can't really have much fun drifting any FWD car unless you are playing with the e-brake, in which case it doesn't really matter what kind of tires you have on it!

MPowerKai
12-14-2005, 02:12 PM
I just took the S2000 to work last night with the Potenza SO3's on it was ok in the afternoon but at night if I took a turn a little too fast the rear would break traction.

olsookie
12-14-2005, 02:36 PM
i have summer tires on... no money for snow tires and a set of wheels...

TurboGTP
12-14-2005, 03:02 PM
Bald Nitto 555r's here....LOL

They DO not hook in the winter...haha = They are getting changed though!

Greg

MazProSpeed
12-14-2005, 03:10 PM
I still have my summer tires on. I only have them on because I don't have money to buy snow tires right now. Trust me they suck especially the other day when I was driving in 4 inches of snow. I guess I will just be careful for now

96s14
12-14-2005, 07:25 PM
i still have summer tires but my car stays out of the snow

MPowerKai
12-15-2005, 02:31 AM
today it was still ok, tomorrow is the s2k again but friday its gonna rain so I can't risk it :(

Vypurr
12-15-2005, 11:17 AM
Anyone with summer tires should stay off the roads tonight. They are calling for a light dusting followed by rain, followed by sheets of ice!

Even snow tires cannot help you on ice (unless we are talking studded tires)

R33P3R007
12-15-2005, 12:05 PM
tirerack has some cheapies with ugly rims for like 11 each with rim. but I am Still sporting the stockers. 18 inch perelli p-zeros. they suck.

R33P3R007
12-15-2005, 12:06 PM
horrible in the snow

olmytsi
12-16-2005, 10:59 AM
Did some research and the kumho supra ecsta are apparently the worse in snow so no snow fun for me this winter. :(

2point4DSM
12-16-2005, 11:02 AM
I thought we told you that, lol. And yes, your car will tend to slide around... just sitting still at a stoplight, lol.

white2000neon
12-16-2005, 06:45 PM
^ No offense, but you can't really have much fun drifting any FWD car unless you are playing with the e-brake, in which case it doesn't really matter what kind of tires you have on it!

Yea vypurr technically you are correct you cannot drift a fwd car you do have to use the ebrake and thats what ive been doin!!!! E-DRIFTIN

TurboTagTeam
12-16-2005, 07:07 PM
I'v got to have the best winter tire selection of all. 275/35 Bfgoodwritch t/a drag radials. Suprisingly they are better in the snow then my azena's were in my civic. THey were HORIBLE!

mwh27
12-21-2005, 04:55 AM
I run Dunlop Sp Sport 5000 all-season 275/40/17

http://www.mikewillhiggs.com/gallery2/v/Rides_Root_Level/94_Camaro/mounted/DSCF4325.JPG.html

I havent had too much time to play, but with an open diff, it's still not that great =/

US_R33
12-21-2005, 10:24 AM
i have a set of Falken Ziex ZE 512s in 225/50/16 for sale.....less than 1,000 miles on them :thumbup:

Intercooled T
12-21-2005, 11:53 AM
still sporting the nitto drag radials...LOL

glyph
12-21-2005, 03:04 PM
I waited too long and went to winter tires last week. I have Potenza RE730 for summer. I put Michelin Pilot Alpin AP2 on my stock wheels (which I smartly kept), purchased from tire rack, mounted locally. Total setback was $560. It was $460 for the 4 tires shipped, then another $100 for mounting, balancing, stems, etc. It was a little cheaper after a minor military discount. I think I got fleeced on the service though. I did NOT expect to pay that much.

For those of you still on summer tires, remember, it's not just about the outer construction of the tread, but also about the rubber compound itself. ALL TRACTION IS AFFECTED, NOT JUST ON SNOW/ICE. Winter tires are designed to perform in cold temperatures, and summer in warm. I noticed right away that my summer tires were not grabbing as usual as soon as the temperature hit the freezing level, especially when I first drove away. It got somewhat better as they warmed up, but still nowhere near the grip level I am used to. The new winter tires grip right out of the driveway.

Think of the cost this way: you use each set 50% of the year, and since you now have two sets, it's virtually the same cost (in tread usage) as using one set of tires all year. Plus it's a hell of a lot safer.

Sorry if this has already been said.

US_R33
12-22-2005, 09:41 AM
For those of you still on summer tires, remember, it's not just about the outer construction of the tread, but also about the rubber compound itself. ALL TRACTION IS AFFECTED, NOT JUST ON SNOW/ICE. Winter tires are designed to perform in cold temperatures, and summer in warm. I noticed right away that my summer tires were not grabbing as usual as soon as the temperature hit the freezing level, especially when I first drove away. It got somewhat better as they warmed up, but still nowhere near the grip level I am used to. The new winter tires grip right out of the driveway.
that's b/c the summer tire compound is not designed to be used in temps below low 50*F range. the tire becomes very hard and if its cold enough outside, can act like a solid piece of rubber (very bad). all season/winter tires are designed to operate in temps below freezing, hence the good traction right out of the driveway :wink: this is exactly why its very cheap insurance to go out and get a set of winter/all season tires for this time of year

glyph
12-22-2005, 12:00 PM
That's what I was telling THEM

95SC2
12-23-2005, 07:56 PM
<--still on summer tires and wheels

JuniorRSX
12-25-2005, 12:31 AM
i feel like puttin my summers back on....

devilfluff
01-01-2006, 03:21 PM
Running P-Zero Nero M+S... no problems so far

blu4door
01-02-2006, 01:27 AM
I am running the stock bfg kdw's. I ran them last winter, this winter, and if they make it till then, next winter also. I don't have to many problems. Getting started on a hill takes some finesse, but after I am moving, I am fine.

95nracer
01-02-2006, 09:13 AM
i feel like puttin my summers back on....

I know how you feel. I could've waited until mid Jan to put the winters on.