which boost controller?

[fastjim]

well i was talkin to my cuz since hes like a guru for this stuff and he told me to go with a greddy boost controller the profec b spec 2 which is like 298.00 but then i seen the profec e-01 which is like 491.00... the GReddy's new super multi-tasker is the PRofec e-01. Designed as a combination: boost-controller, data display / logger and e-manage programmer, the e-01 can provide superior boost response, increased boost, warning meter functions, 3channel data-logging. where as the PRofec B-Spec. II’s basic function to increase boost is as easy as the original, with an added built in boost pressure display and optional features like real-time, peak or last boost display (in either kPa or PSI). There are optional warning and boost limiter functions that can be programmed to offer much more control.

i cant decide on which one to get does anyone have these that i can check out on thursday?

[03tarmacblack]

You can check out my hallman mbc on thursday if you want...

[2point4DSM]

Somehow I have a feeling this not what he is looking for even though most of the fast guys I know use to switch from electronic to manual boost controllers. The reason for that was manual boost controllers were more reliable.

I went with an HKS EVC-EZ cause I got tired of getting out of the car to mess with boost cause for me easy is better. I've got an electronic Greddy boost gauge that has a warning light.

[MuddyREX]

I have a screw type boost controller that I bought from IMPO 3 years ago. And honestly, it works awesome. Doesn't spike, and holds boost very well. I haven't had to adjust it in three years.

[fastjim]

thanks for the comments guys but i dont want a manual boost controler its a toss up between these two and i just wanted to know if anyone here had one of these controllers so i could check it out to see what it looks like in the car and all...

[StealthTC]

HALLMAN ES MBC

Cheap and Effective, What I use on all my FI cars

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17232&cat=276&page=1

[KGParts]

HALLMAN ES MBC

Cheap and Effective, What I use on all my FI cars

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17232&cat=276&page=1
Yep, I agree. I love the hallman BC's. I have the ES in stock for $60 shipped if you need one.

[fastjim]

thanks but i wanna go electronic....

[StealthTC]

Electronic Sucks, If anything do an MBC with an extension so you can adjust it from within the cabin of the car

[03tarmacblack]

HALLMAN ES MBC

Cheap and Effective, What I use on all my FI cars

http://www.extremepsi.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=17232&cat=276&page=1

Pro is better than the es for the little difference in cost

[fastjim]

well if you use that mbc on all your cars then you would know that you cant extend it to adjust in the ****pit and i took that info right off the webpage you provided and besides i dont want a MBC i want to go electronic... but i can see that no one here wants to give me any info on what is better from the two i chose from actual experience using the boost controllers so im just gonna ask around local shops and see what is perferred... thanks for not helping at all....

[KGParts]

well if you use that mbc on all your cars then you would know that you cant extend it to adjust in the ****pit and i took that info right off the webpage you provided and besides i dont want a MBC i want to go electronic... but i can see that no one here wants to give me any info on what is better from the two i chose from actual experience using the boost controllers so im just gonna ask around local shops and see what is perferred... thanks for not helping at all....
Wow! Sorry to upset you. I think we were just trying to save you some money.
From your original post, it sounded to me like you had the info at your fingetips and through a member of your imediate family.

I am not claiminhg to be a guru, but if I were your Cuz, I would have recomended the Apexi AVC-R. I would have told you that the profec is an ok unit and is VERY simple to use. I would have also asked you if you were running the greddy e-manage. If you were, then the e-01 would be a good choice. If you were not running the e-manage and I thought you could not handle the extra complexity of the AVC-R, then I would tell you to go with the profec. If I knew your money may be well spent on other things rather than a $500+ boost controller, then I would have given you the same info I gave already.

At the end of the day, I am not your cuz, so I figured I would just try to save you some money. Sorry if I pissed you off (apparently a few of us did) but not giving you the answer you wanted to hear.

Hopefuly my "roll playing" above as your cuz helped you out.

[2point4DSM]

Here is the problem as I see it....

You want something that looks good but everyone is trying to tell you what works best.

So, btw your choices get the one YOU think looks best cause neither works well, lol.

And when it comes to syle your the only one who is going to completely know, you.

:mrgreen:


Btw, why does neither of your choices work well....

Might have something to do with how unreliable those things are and how the warnings don't work when they are suppose to or how you won't be able to control boost as well as a manual controller or how inaccurate they are at displaying numbers, etc. I use to hear this a lot from various people with those controllers, especially. That is the reason I went with the EVC-EZ. And cause it supports up to at least 35 psi, I think. Or least that is what I read.

Btw, I still blew up my headgasket this year cause the EVC-EZ had my turbo boosting at 30++ psi when I was shooting for 26, lol. Not entirely the EVC's fault cause it was in fact due to a line that was slightly ripped. But even though I try to keep my lines as short as possible the way they want you to setup it up there is just no other way around the spaghetti, lol.

Good luck with whatever you get!

[StealthTC]

well if you use that mbc on all your cars then you would know that you cant extend it to adjust in the ****pit and i took that info right off the webpage you provided and besides i dont want a MBC i want to go electronic... but i can see that no one here wants to give me any info on what is better from the two i chose from actual experience using the boost controllers so im just gonna ask around local shops and see what is perferred... thanks for not helping at all....


Homeboy, you cant do it with that MBC, Hallman makes another style that can be adjusted within the cabin. I leave mine under the hood. I was just making a suggestion. You asked a question we gave you our feedback and than you say no one has helped you? ha...

[Prototype240]

I've had great experience with the Greddy Profec B...it's a solid little boost controller and does it's job right. You just set the "boost", "gain" and "limiter" and you're good to go. A friend of mine used the A'pexi AVC-R, and his comments were that it was easy to use the simple parts of it, but harder to figure out the RPM boost settings and such. Personally, I think the e-o1 is just a dash ornament waiting to be stolen.

[fastjim]

hey guys im sorry if i seemed like i blew up but i really didnt im calm just wanted to know if anyone on the forum had one of these controllers in their car already and what they thought of it... besides im not buying one (well installing one) until i get my exhaust anyway so i just wanted to know from personal experience how these were...

[Structure240sx]

i have had a turbo xs dual stage, joe p, turbo xs single stage and now an apexi avc-r. i wish i got the avc-r in the begining. the manuals are ok but are a pain to keep adjusting to get right. if you run vaccuum lines into the car expect to have boost spikes and possible creep. not to mention the chance of a line getting a hole in it.

the avc-r has alot od different adjustments like rpm based boost, gear based boost, or you can just use it like a normal boost controller which makes it very easy. it has two boost settings plus you can turn it off and just run off the wastegate. along with having a great digital guage and being able to adjust from inside the car is great.

it also has a stronger solenoid than the greddy units. people have used the avc-r to 40+ psi. the greddy profec c were rated good to 25psi and the newer spec b are "stronger" but i wasnt able to find how much stronger they are

[wgknestrick]

I have the profec 2 spec B and it works fine. All you need to do is understand how to tune it. It only has 3 variables, set, gain, and set gain.

Only problem with EBCs is having to ldrastically change your settings based on ambient temps outside. I generally have to take my set points down 1 psi for every 15deg below 40deg. 40deg and above, it hits target, below that, boost builds too high.

I hit 24 psi and fuel cut on the Hydra one 5deg morning. EBC was running 20psi every other day. You just have to be careful

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

If you're looking at this for a WRX, I would not even consider getting an MBC or an EBC. Just spend the extra dough on something like a COBB Ap, or EcuTek, or something of that nature. I know too many people who have been burned by MBCs/EBCs

[capaGC8]

If you're looking at this for a WRX, I would not even consider getting an MBC or an EBC. Just spend the extra dough on something like a COBB Ap, or EcuTek, or something of that nature. I know too many people who have been burned by MBCs/EBCs

that must be because they haven't used them correctly. a boost controller is supposed to used to set boost to a max limit and work with some form of engine management.

i know many people with WRXs decided to purchase a MBC/EBC with the intention of increasing stock boost without altering fuel or timing curves. this is not a very good idea.

as for the best...

MBC - Hallman
EBC- Apexi AVCR

i have used both in the past with little to no issues. i am looking to run a hallman ebs with my new setup.

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

that must be because they haven't used them correctly. a boost controller is supposed to used to set boost to a max limit and work with some form of engine management.

i know many people with WRXs decided to purchase a MBC/EBC with the intention of increasing stock boost without altering fuel or timing curves. this is not a very good idea.

as for the best...

MBC - Hallman
EBC- Apexi AVCR

i have used both in the past with little to no issues. i am looking to run a hallman ebs with my new setup.If you have EM you wouldn't need a boost controller.....

[fastjim]

so what your all saying is to go with and engine management setup rather then an electric boost controller and i wouldnt need a boost controller cuz the EM. acts as one so ill be getting basically two things in one???

[subwrxkid]

I dont have a boost controller in mine, don't think its needed. Just get a tune, your boost can be set wit your tune. If your going to get anything, get an apexi avcr.

[auk113]

well i had a PERRIN mbc, but i switched to greddy profec b spec II today :) , the only problem the derections are confusing as hell, and even with stock setting i still get boost creep


ps. if you know how to set it up, and have some free time help me out

[capaGC8]

If you have EM you wouldn't need a boost controller.....


that's not true at all, but it's your opinion and i wont try to change it..

[subwrxkid]

that's not true at all, but it's your opinion and i wont try to change it..
Why not, my EM raised my boost, im at 18psi w/ no boost controller. My friend just told me to get a apexi avcr to get better dyno results.

[silver05bullet]

Get the forge one it has a ratchet mechanism with it that allows u to set it by clicks kind of cool and holds boost well, also the hallman is a well tried and proven one

[Buster]

I also have the Perrin, I like it, its a little hard and the directions suck, Stock setting is not what it says it is, But after its set it stays. Ive been running 16 pounds since i tuned it, which will take a while with the stock boost gauge you have, but for 75 bones I think its money well spent. Its your car, I just know Ive spent maybe 350 total on my car and am miles away from stock. If you want to go fast, dont buy bling. be productive not pretty.

[fastjim]

haha bling... yeah ryan at car pretty said go with a turbo xs mbc so i dont know what im gonna do yet alls i know is that xmas is supposed to get me enough for the exhaust setup i want and maybe an intake.. after that ill go with the boost controller

[auk113]

i had (now selling) a perrin one, and i was pleased, reliable, spooled faster, ez to use and install

[KGParts]

Get the forge one it has a ratchet mechanism with it that allows u to set it by clicks kind of cool and holds boost well, also the hallman is a well tried and proven one
Yes the Forge UNOS controller is very nice with the "clicks". Allows you to know exactly how may clicks equals what boost. I am a Forge Dealer and have these units in stock to look at if interested. I am also a Halman dealer and have all of their units in stock to see as well. I also have TurboXS controllers in stock to compare them.