The Nismo 370Z-WOW!! NEW PICS

[phillycivicsi]

i know this car has been posted before but i found some new pics with an article
2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z - 2009 New York Auto Show (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/autoshows/newyork/2009/2009nissannismo370z.html?tid=edmunds.il.home.photo panel..1.*)



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Partial quote of the article:


At a glance, though, the 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z appears to compromise the new Z-car's effort to slim down to pure sports-car dimensions. The Nismo's wheelbase remains 100.4 inches, but at 174.3 inches in overall length, it's 7 inches longer than the normal 370Z. It also has a 0.6-inch wider track than the Sport-package 370Z, due to the wider rims of the lightweight forged-aluminum Rays wheels. They measure 19-by-9.5 inches in front and 19-by-10.5 inches in back.

Aerodynamic considerations dictated the longer body for the Nismo Z, which is, after all, meant to be a racing car that just happens to have a carpeted interior, not to mention DOT-legal tires (Yokohama Advan Sports, 245/40ZR19 98Y in front and 285/35ZR19 99Y in the rear). The front and rear fascias are radically different, and most of the extra length is in the nose. This adds a few extra pounds, as the Nismo's curb weight is listed at 3,300 pounds versus 3,232 for a base, manual-shift 370Z.

"I know it's for performance reasons that they put a really long nose on it," says Rodriguez. "Those JGTC cars are really low and super wide, and they make them longer, too. There's an old Datsun 240Z called the G-Nose that I used to own. It was an extended-nose version of the regular 240Z, and the Nismo kind of reminds me of that."

Rodriguez is even fine with the large rear wing Autech has put on the 2009 Nismo 370Z to increase downforce. "Actually, I think the wing should be bigger. And I wouldn't mind seeing a more extreme version of the Z that's even more aggressive, wider and lower — and with at least 370 hp."

Underneath its showy aero bits, the 2009 Nismo 370Z is no less hard-core than the 350Z Nismo. Autech still takes the standard Z-car chassis off the assembly line and welds the seams of the unit body by hand — a labor-intensive process that increases structural rigidity beyond that of a normal, spot-welded unibody. Mass dampers are then fitted between the unibody's left and right frame members to control the extra vibration inherent in a seam-welded chassis.

Of course, there are extensive suspension changes, too. The Nismo Z gets hollow antiroll bars, so they're lighter than the ones on the regular 370Z. The front bar is just 15 percent stiffer, but the rear antiroll bar is 50 percent stiffer, so the Nismo 370Z should turn in so quick, it'll seem it all happened yesterday already. The front strut tower brace is stiffer, too.

Overall, the 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z has 40 percent better front-end rigidity than a regular Nissan 370Z. As for the rear end, it's a huge 140 percent more structurally rigid. Roll stiffness is up 15 percent, too. So, yeah, you're going to notice something's up as soon as you get into the Nismo Z.

Spring rates are 15 percent higher than the regular 370Z in front and 10 percent higher in the rear. We're cautiously hopeful the ride won't be as harsh as on the Nismo 350Z, but aren't about to place any bets. The Nismo has the same 13.7:1 steering ratio as ordinary 370Z coupes, while its brakes are identical to those of the Sport-package 370Z, featuring 14.0-by-1.3-inch front discs and four-piston fixed aluminum calipers and 13.8-by-0.8-inch rear discs and two-piston fixed calipers.

To get that 350-hp rating, Nissan revised the ECM tuning of the VQ37VHR engine and fitted a less restrictive exhaust. The exhaust pipes are laid out in an H configuration for the Nismo 370Z instead of the Y-pipe on the regular Z, and have, of course, been tuned to deliver a deeper sound.

The 350 hp peaks at 7,400 rpm versus 332 at 7,000 rpm in the normal Z. Redline remains 7,500 rpm, though, so you'll really have to work to use that extra power. Torque edges up 6 pound-feet to 276 lb-ft at the same 5,200-rpm threshold.

[TalonTsi97]

I like the wheels a lot, but theres bunch of other things i don't. I do think it looks better then the 350z nismo.

[Shoolig]

I likey! 350 horsepower out of an N/A V6 is impressive, that's Porsche territory.

[ozthunder]

I likey! 350 horsepower out of an N/A V6 is impressive, that's Porsche territory.

So is ~$50,000.

Used Cayman S > this, especially since the Cayman S doesn't have a cheap looking glued-on wing.

[doug]

you know what.. I didn't like the redesign.. but the nismo definitely looks badass. it seems like it's a spawn from the older 70 Z's, rather the Z32 Z's that the 350Z's resembled.

[SpEcRv9]

not a fan of the wing...but I've never been a fan of any wing on the Z

[ozthunder]

I love the redesign, but everytime Nismo does more and more, the tackier it looks.

Sorry folks, I could never justify 45-50K on a car that looks like it came out of a 70's Anime.

[sisforsurfing]

I think it's awesome, but also would prefer a Cayman. Still, this is as good as a Z has ever been.

[ozthunder]

I think it's awesome, but also would prefer a Cayman. Still, this is as good as a Z has ever been.

lol, I'm gonna patiently wait for the 300ZXTT'rs to chime in, although I completely agree with you.

[Shoolig]

So is ~$50,000.

Used Cayman S > this, especially since the Cayman S doesn't have a cheap looking glued-on wing.

Whoa- $50,000? That's rediculous, the base isn't a bad deal @ 30k, but, 20k more, I figured it'd be EvoX priceish.

Screw the Cayman as well for 50,000- get a C6 Z06 and enjoy a supercar for that price.

[Renegade_]

I want the wheels - I'll leave the rest.

[ozthunder]

Whoa- $50,000? That's rediculous, the base isn't a bad deal @ 30k, but, 20k more, I figured it'd be EvoX priceish.

Screw the Cayman as well for 50,000- get a C6 Z06 and enjoy a supercar for that price.

That's the rumor; we won't know for a bit, but considering that the last ones went for what...43-5 out the door...50 is not an unforeseeable stretch.

[DocWalt]

God that's hideous.

[NOPSTNS]

some angles be good, some be not. like sometimes i think it looks better than the standard 370, then they go and show off the rear, yikes. but i do love those wheels.

but 350hp is a good amount for a car that size, they have almost hit 100 hp per liter...come on nissan, you can do it!

50k is way too much tho. but specialized cars like this are always more money than what they are worth. when an oem takes a decent car and throws body work and chassis tuning into it, they have to rape the sticker bc they wont produce enough to balance it out. shame.

if i had 30k burnin a hole in my pocket, a 370z would be high on the list.
if i had 50k burnin a hole in my pocket, that list with a nissan at the top would be rolled up and thrown in the trash....

[OutToWinPAHC]

Hmm Nissan brakes....... I wonder if we can swap those puppies

[ozthunder]

I'm pretty sure the torque stays the same with the hp number too...if that's true, then meh. I <3 torque.

And for price, I'd say except low-mid 40's with at least 5 added to the sticker (if it's not mid 40's already). Like Frank said, they have to justify it somehow, and crazy overhead is how they do it.

[cburwell]

I think it's awesome, but also would prefer a Cayman. Still, this is as good as a Z has ever been.

Even without extensive testing now I completely agree with you.

The big selling points are the seam welding and the aero parts. The rest can be replicated in the aftermarket.

[ricky2i5]

i like it....wing has to go though makes it look ricey

[jrl1018]

i like it....the wheels are titz

[sisforsurfing]

Even without extensive testing now I completely agree with you.

The big selling points are the seam welding and the aero parts. The rest can be replicated in the aftermarket.
Agreed. But again, if you're buying a stock Z from Nissan, this is as good as it gets.

lol, I'm gonna patiently wait for the 300ZXTT'rs to chime in, although I completely agree with you.

hahah. The only argument they have is how easily those cars can be tuned, otherwise this car wins everywhere.

I saw it in person and like it a lot. I also really like the 370Z, so if you don't you probably won't like it... not that shocking.

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And agreed about the wheels being awesome. One of the more exciting cars at NYIAS for sure. http://www.topgear.com/us/blog/more/new-york-auto-show-best-of/

[Kir Diesel]

Amazing work from the factory im really impressed but personally id just buy a bone stock one and mod it.... I cant see spending 50K for the car when the aftermarket is going to do 10X better.

Just looking at the Nismo seats i already want to rip them out for a set of BRIDEs... The 19s look nice also for stock wheels but id rather throw a set of Advan RZ or RS-Ds on there... the welded chassis is amazing tho... anyone know how much that costs regularly?

[cburwell]

Amazing work from the factory im really impressed but personally id just buy a bone stock one and mod it.... I cant see spending 50K for the car when the aftermarket is going to do 10X better.

Just looking at the Nismo seats i already want to rip them out for a set of BRIDEs... The 19s look nice also for stock wheels but id rather throw a set of Advan RZ or RS-Ds on there... the welded chassis is amazing tho... anyone know how much that costs regularly?

The chassis modifications would be expensive to replicate in the aftermarket. The areo components can probably be purchased from Nissan, but tat would be pricey right now.

For about $30,000 a base Z is still a great deal, and I'm sure the 350HP will be easily replicated with aftermarket parts as you stated.

[OutToWinPAHC]

Cams, intake and tune. Yeah I would do base and mode as well. Cage for support, coilovers, wheels, brides and boost.

[phillycivicsi]

i still think the base z is such a great buy 350 to the crank prolly 315-330 rwhp stock!!!! for only 30k prolly will go down to 28k

[OutToWinPAHC]

You lose more then that through the driveline. Probably 300 WHP, depending on the vehicle 10-20%

[phillycivicsi]

o yea but its still good i can live with 300rwhp stock and with basic bolt ons damn it will be atleast 330whp

[ozthunder]

o yea but its still good i can live with 300rwhp stock and with basic bolt ons damn it will be atleast 330whp

As far as basic boltons are concerned...it depends on what exactly was done here. If its like the VQ35, which sucked with just basic boltons (lol@popcharger), then getting 30 will be quite a stretch.

[SpEcRv9]

if its like any N/A nissan motor its not worth doing bolt on parts.

[ozthunder]

if its like any N/A nissan motor its not worth doing bolt on parts.

Touche...

Out of the 4 NA Nissan motors I've owned, the VQ and whatever the 2.5 in the Spec is called blow for boltons. Blooowwwwww

[OutToWinPAHC]

Tuning, cams, injectors and tune could get a good 40WHP out of this.

[SpEcRv9]

Touche...

Out of the 4 NA Nissan motors I've owned, the VQ and whatever the 2.5 in the Spec is called blow for boltons. Blooowwwwww

maybe with the exception of the VK56 all n/a nissan motors are trash for bolt ons.

If Nissan was gonna give the spec guys a ****ty bolt on motor they shoulda just gave us the VQ from the factory :)

[OutToWinPAHC]

lol its a SR20 what do you expect?

[SpEcRv9]

lol its a SR20 what do you expect?

its a QR25.

[SpEcRv9]

but after reading your ride, its cool man... you might have a Nissan but I'd understand why you wouldnt know the engine codes :lol:

[blacked3g02]

ehhh some parts are nice looking but others idk, not bad looking but wouldnt buy one.

[OutToWinPAHC]

I dont know it because its front wheel. But I have owned KA's RB's and VQ's in my time. The VQ is a good motor to play with. You can do some nifty head swaps for compression uppers. ie VQ30 heads (ported runners) on a VQ35 :). Not bolt on, but adds NA power

[SpEcRv9]

IMO the QR25 is a great motor but it hasn't been able to receive the recognition/aftermarket support by Nissan guys because they're all about RWD and the QR only works FWD...

the aftermarket for the motor is average, but nothing compared to the sr20. If you guys could figure out how throw one in an s13,boost it and keep it RWD... I'm sure itd be the motor of choice to replace the sr20.

[cburwell]

IMO the QR25 is a great motor but it hasn't been able to receive the recognition/aftermarket support by Nissan guys because they're all about RWD and the QR only works FWD...

the aftermarket for the motor is average, but nothing compared to the sr20. If you guys could figure out how throw one in an s13,boost it and keep it RWD... I'm sure itd be the motor of choice to replace the sr20.

The QR also got off to a rough start with all of the issues it had early on. Many people seem to want to act like that didn't happen, but the fact of the matter is some vendors may not have been as willing to build aftermarket parts for an engine that could hardly hold itself together in stock form. After the issues were ironed out, the QR did prove that it is capable of producing power.

[SpEcRv9]

The QR also got off to a rough start with all of the issues it had early on. Many people seem to want to act like that didn't happen, but the fact of the matter is some vendors may not have been as willing to build aftermarket parts for an engine that could hardly hold itself together in stock form. After the issues were ironed out, the QR did prove that it is capable of producing power.

troof, you're preaching to the choir lol....I dont think anything in my car is the original factory part...except the body :lol:

[ndubz]

I saw it at NYIAS today. Its real sexy in person. I love how they've smoothed out its already clean lines.

[aaronnn]

o yea but its still good i can live with 300rwhp stock and with basic bolt ons damn it will be atleast 330whp

i dont know..

the 3.8L V6 Hyundai GenCoupe sounds tastier to me.. cleaner lines, simpler interior but still tasteful, with the same amount of power for $25,000.. 10k less than an equally equipped Z.

yes the Z might have more tq, but the Gencoupes' got less weight to lug around.. i'd save me the 10k and build the gencoupe.

it would be a tough call though. if the 370Z didn't look like it did, I'd probably take the Z over the gencoupe, but i cant stand those looks. My neighbor picked one up in white.. he paid nearly 40k which i can't justify because that's 15k more than what i bought my 2008 Legacy GT for, but the LGT is so much better equipped, lighter, AWD, and seats 4 with loads of trunk space, etc... feels way lighter to drive too, the steering on my car feels more precise than just artificially heavy liek the new Z. I loved the steering feel of the 350Z, though..

[ozthunder]

Interesting. The 350Z was great, but the 370 I drove felt lighter, more agile, and just more of a handler. Who knows...

[aaronnn]

its definitely a better handler. im just saying i dont like the heavier steering response that feels artificially weighted. im not saying anything that the 370 is heavier or doesnt handle better than the 350z.

[ozthunder]

I don't know, the 350 felt and steered as heavy as it was. My GTO was more responsive than the 350.

[aaronnn]

you're not understanding what i originally stated. I never said anything about the car itself being heavy. I liked the way the 350Z steering felt, it felt nicely weighted. The 370Z feels more artificial, but yes, it does handle better. The GTO on the other hand, although a heavy car, feels very easy to drive due to the way the steering rack and power steering is set up.

[OutToWinPAHC]

i dont know..

the 3.8L V6 Hyundai GenCoupe sounds tastier to me.. cleaner lines, simpler interior but still tasteful, with the same amount of power for $25,000.. 10k less than an equally equipped Z.

yes the Z might have more tq, but the Gencoupes' got less weight to lug around.. i'd save me the 10k and build the gencoupe.

it would be a tough call though. if the 370Z didn't look like it did, I'd probably take the Z over the gencoupe, but i cant stand those looks. My neighbor picked one up in white.. he paid nearly 40k which i can't justify because that's 15k more than what i bought my 2008 Legacy GT for, but the LGT is so much better equipped, lighter, AWD, and seats 4 with loads of trunk space, etc... feels way lighter to drive too, the steering on my car feels more precise than just artificially heavy liek the new Z. I loved the steering feel of the 350Z, though..


Really Hyundai has made strides and came a long way, but just remember what they were 5+ years ago. The Z heritage goes along way, always proven. Classic Z's and Datsun / Nissans 20+ years are still on the road. When's the last time you have seen a Hyundai with 15-20 years cruising around?

[DPancoast]

looks a lot better the second time around from when I first saw it.

I love the wheels.

[ozthunder]

you're not understanding what i originally stated. I never said anything about the car itself being heavy. I liked the way the 350Z steering felt, it felt nicely weighted. The 370Z feels more artificial, but yes, it does handle better. The GTO on the other hand, although a heavy car, feels very easy to drive due to the way the steering rack and power steering is set up.

So you think the 370's steering feels heavier? Clarify what you said; i'm not a dumb person, I'm just not seeing what the point is, my apologies lol

Having driven a 350, and a 370, the drive feels better and more responsive. You stated you liked the steering feel of the 350 over the 370, while I think the opposite. Just personal preference I guess...

[aaronnn]

Really Hyundai has made strides and came a long way, but just remember what they were 5+ years ago. The Z heritage goes along way, always proven. Classic Z's and Datsun / Nissans 20+ years are still on the road. When's the last time you have seen a Hyundai with 15-20 years cruising around?

i know how people have a bad image of anything that came out of hyundai no less than 5 years ago. But they've improved fast and quick. That's where the value comes in though.

Hyundai 20 years ago made cars like the Japanese did 40 years ago. Hyundai 10 years ago made cars like the Japanese did 20 years ago. Hyundai 5 years ago made cars like the Japanese did 10 years ago. And now Hyundai is nearly up to par as the top dogs of the car industry. Yeah it doesnt have the "heritage" of the automakers thats been around for decades, but hey, they have something that'll still give these guys a run for the money.

I'm not saying what is better than what, but for the money that hyundai is charging, it's gotta have the bigger automakers worry, especially when hyundai is charging from 5000-10,000 less than it's competitor's for nearly the same fit, finish, standard options, power, etc.

[aaronnn]

So you think the 370's steering feels heavier? Clarify what you said; i'm not a dumb person, I'm just not seeing what the point is, my apologies lol

Having driven a 350, and a 370, the drive feels better and more responsive. You stated you liked the steering feel of the 350 over the 370, while I think the opposite. Just personal preference I guess...

not heavier. i never said anything abuot the steering feel being heavier. I'm saying that it feels ARTIFICIALLY weighted. As in, it just doesn't feel precise and mechanical. More electronical than anything else. Hence why i dont like it, while the 350 feels more attached to the road. you get better road feel and its more mechanical and "raw". not really "raw-raw" but its got a good road feel to it.

tough to really explain. My girlfriend owned a 350Z for a while and she traded it in for a Mini Cooper S. of course the Mini feels much easier and fun to drive, but I did like the Z during the time she had it.

and the 370, my neighbor picked it up last month. Better put together car but I like the way the 350 felt better i guess. It was a fun car to drive, but yes, the 370 feels more planted and glued to the road.. just not a fan of the steering feel. that's all.

[ozthunder]

Ahh...sorry, i must have misunderstood when you said..."feels way lighter to drive too, the steering on my car feels more precise than just artificially heavy liek the new Z."

[aaronnn]

yeah. i worded it weird.

i didn't mean that it was heavy, but i just meant that it felt like they purposely made it feel heavy electronically instead of it being a natural weighted steering feel.

[tristatesentra]

I know im not a fan of the new Z, but when I saw it at the show yesterday,seeing that nismo Z changed my perspective on this car.very nice and very clean :)

[jspek]

the nismo edition does justice for the car.

[Schepis]

Its nice, but they'll never top the design of the Z32. When the 350Z came out, the back end looked too rounded, and the same goes with this one. Actually, I think the tail lights are what's killing me. The front end is passable, but it still looks like a 350 with new headlights and a Veilside front end. The power under the hood is very impressive out of a N/A six, but taking away the turbos was the worst thing that Nissan did.

[ozthunder]

The lights in general are terrible, but having owned an older Z, I absolutely love the windows and general layout. I was never the biggest fan of the looks of the 300ZX (may it be the first or second interations) because they simply did not look like Zs. This bleeds Datsun, and that's awesome.

[phsdrummer2]

Its nice, but they'll never top the design of the Z32. When the 350Z came out, the back end looked too rounded, and the same goes with this one. Actually, I think the tail lights are what's killing me. The front end is passable, but it still looks like a 350 with new headlights and a Veilside front end. The power under the hood is very impressive out of a N/A six, but taking away the turbos was the worst thing that Nissan did.

Agreed. I have had a tough time accepting the new body styles but just as the 350 grew on me over time I am sure that the 370 will do the same.