GS-R talk (n/a)

[jaytwou2]

So what are you guys doing to the gs-r its getting hard to find any N/A gsr guys out there in good condition even ls guys i wanna see some clean setups

[MTuning]

a good honda is a turbo honda :wink:

[highmilehatch]

So what are you guys doing to the gs-r

Turbocharging them.

[digdug18]

you don't get out that much do you, 90% of the teggy's I see only have a loud exhaust on them, thats it, a finding someone with a turbo isn't the norm, check out team-integra.net or clubintegra.com

Your see that most guys are keeping their cars N/A

[DC2.2GSR]

well my GSR is n/a, but a B18C1 does not occupy my engine bay. haha

[BigWhiteTodd]

i know lots of built gsr all being fast. just depends on what your willing to spend.

[thatwhiteguy]

If I had the money I'd pick up a nice GSR and do something like ITR cams, high comp pistons, ported head, header, intake manifold, upgrade the valve train for some fun, and then the usual weight reduction and power steering removal... but I don't have the money or a garage *le sigh*

Definitely wouldn't be as fast as a properly built turbo setup but it would still be fun!

In for pics/builds

[2001teg]

Im currently building a n/a gsr. Build consists of this. Stock crank, stock rods, 82mm CTR pistons, all new OEM bearings, new ITR oil pump, P&P Head, Full ITR valvetrain and cams, ITR intake manifold, bored TB, Fuel rail, 4 to 1 headers, CTR crank pulley and a good TUNE. Im reusing my ITR tranny with a 3 puck exedy clutch/lightened flywheel I still need to calculate my injector size. Love/Hate comments?

[Mastakmk]

my gsr WAS wild.. what exactly are you asking.. it was fully built - there being stock rods. umm yeah it was stolen 2 weeks ago. nothing left. NOTHING. they took my willwood brakes my corbeau racing seats my fully built gsr my rims everything. im parting out my 96 civic dx coupe. anyone that wants anything everything honda is for sale. its on hondatech for now until i get my 25 posts in....

[Mastakmk]

http://www.hondamarketplace.com/showthread.php?t=2540762

[2001teg]

Holy **** matt, that poor thing got destroyed.

[cny1320.com]

Thief's suck. I got a JDM b18c in my 90 hatch. Does that count? I see the thread was aimed more towards integra's but I thought I'd butt in.

[BigWhiteTodd]

just build your gsr you will make good power my friend john has a fully built block with almost stock head made 200+ to the wheels

[K20EF9]

http://i41.tinypic.com/zwn8sh.jpg

NA B20vtec :)

[215ek]

i just stay clean and slow=[

[redtoprps13]

if you want real power n/a, anything short of a k-series is virtually worthless in terms of price per power gained and even that isn't worth the price. 8k for a 170whp swap? i had a b18c1 with light mods and there was no noticeable gain..... my boy bobby has a 196whp n/a lsvtec with i believe a b16 tranny and even that is no fun to drive. there is no midrange grunt. every honda guy i know that has done n/a and then gone boost will tell you that they'll never understand why they even attempted an n/a build. unless you plan on road racing, small displacement powerbands are about as exciting as waiting for bad sex

[MTuning]

^^^so true. i miss my turbo integra everyday. its so easy to boost 300hp stock without worries, its a no-brainer. the k-series is just an animal haha when i jump back in a honda that will be the powerplant.

[redtoprps13]

^^^so true. i miss my turbo integra everyday. its so easy to boost 300hp stock without worries, its a no-brainer. the k-series is just an animal haha when i jump back in a honda that will be the powerplant.

i just don't like the idea of a 1500 rpm power band and no midrange. k-series is sexy but too expensive. you could buy an e36 bmw for the price of a k-swap. a boosted b18b is sexy though, much more fun than a bolt-on cammed b18c1

[BigWhiteTodd]

i just don't like the idea of a 1500 rpm power band and no midrange. k-series is sexy but too expensive. you could buy an e36 bmw for the price of a k-swap. a boosted b18b is sexy though, much more fun than a bolt-on cammed b18c1

need to buy the right stuff you can make it cheaper trust me you can do one for under 6K

[redtoprps13]

need to buy the right stuff you can make it cheaper trust me you can do one for under 6K

any k20's with dohc vtec are rare to see even the motor go for under 5 grand, you still need mounts and a tsx header, and you can do it for around 6K if you do every little detail by yourself. realistically you're still looking at around 6800-7200. if you do everything yourself prolly 6300 if you get a good deal on the motor. k20a3's don't exist in this debate. even so you just spend 6 grand for 170whp......

[DC2.2GSR]

any k20's with dohc vtec are rare to see even the motor go for under 5 grand, you still need mounts and a tsx header, and you can do it for around 6K if you do every little detail by yourself. realistically you're still looking at around 6800-7200. if you do everything yourself prolly 6300 if you get a good deal on the motor. k20a3's don't exist in this debate. even so you just spend 6 grand for 170whp......

lol. sorry man, but you are VERY misinformed.

you must be thinking about a K20A, which is the newer JDM ITR engine. yes, an entire K20a swap will go for $5k+. a local junkyard quoted me $2600 for my choice of either an RSX Type S (K20) or TSX (K24) complete swap. i looked at both cars myself, and both were clean with under 50k miles. both swaps included mounts, harness, 6 speed trans, all accessories, etc.

the supporting parts (to get the K series in an EG/DC/EK) will not be anything outrageous. if you take it to a shop and give them a credit card and say "make it happen", then yes you'll probably pay near $7k. if you do the work yourself, not even close. i researched every last little detail about K series swaps before deciding on my H22. they're very comparable as far as price and work needed to do the swap.

[redtoprps13]

lol. sorry man, but you are VERY misinformed.

you must be thinking about a K20A, which is the newer JDM ITR engine. yes, an entire K20a swap will go for $5k+. a local junkyard quoted me $2600 for my choice of either an RSX Type S (K20) or TSX (K24) complete swap. i looked at both cars myself, and both were clean with under 50k miles. both swaps included mounts, harness, 6 speed trans, all accessories, etc.

the supporting parts (to get the K series in an EG/DC/EK) will not be anything outrageous. if you take it to a shop and give them a credit card and say "make it happen", then yes you'll probably pay near $7k. if you do the work yourself, not even close. i researched every last little detail about K series swaps before deciding on my H22. they're very comparable as far as price and work needed to do the swap.i said if you take it to a shop it will cost you round 7 k........ and the tsx k24's are cheaper than k20's. they're also underrated considering they make the same power sooner with broader power. a good k20a2,k20z, k20z3-swap will cost the average person around 5000K if you're lucky. you just don't roll up to most junkyards and find a wrecked k20 sitting there that isn't a k20a3. and not everybody does their own swap hence why i said you could do it yourself realistically for around 5-6 with every little headache addressed that can/will pop up..

[K20EF9]

if you want real power n/a, anything short of a k-series is virtually worthless in terms of price per power gained and even that isn't worth the price. 8k for a 170whp swap? i had a b18c1 with light mods and there was no noticeable gain..... my boy bobby has a 196whp n/a lsvtec with i believe a b16 tranny and even that is no fun to drive. there is no midrange grunt. every honda guy i know that has done n/a and then gone boost will tell you that they'll never understand why they even attempted an n/a build. unless you plan on road racing, small displacement powerbands are about as exciting as waiting for bad sex

I have never saw anything more wrong.

You can easily make around 240whp with about a $2000 build.

85mm B20 stock sleeves
Rs Machines pistons
stock rods
arp rodbolts
micropolished crank
arp headstuds
b16 head portmatched
valvesprings, valves, retainers, and cams

Low 12's, High 11's all day.

A decent turbo kit on a stock motor will run you that and you won't be going any faster.