Ground Zero Performance = THE WORST EVER

[Tru2Blu]

This is just a heads up for anyone thinking about buying a car from these people or taking their car there for service. DO NOT DO IT.

Short Story:

Bought my 92 vr4 from these people in febuary of 2008. And its been running for at most 4 months since i had it. They promised me everything that was wrong with the car would be fixed free of charge over time. I was stupid enough to trust them. After recently breaking down again, my car is now at 3s motors in long island. And the list of things wrong with the car is huge. For anyone who wants to doubt me. go on 3si.org and search GZP or hans.

I know ur going to see this Hans, or maybe Emilie will see it first. KARMA is a bytch. And I hope to god our parts never cross.

[CHAOS]

didnt you have a really long thread about them before?

[Tru2Blu]

didnt you have a really long thread about them before?

yeah i did, cuz i could not get intouch with them. this is not for me to get in touch, its a warning for potential victims.

[HatchSurfer3]

is that the same car you're trying to sell in your sig? I hope everything works out for you.

[TalonTsi97]

It's funny because i've heard a lot of bad things about them myself from being around a bunch of forums for so many years. I'm suprised they are still in business and still post here always having an excuse.
Good luck with everything.

[Tru2Blu]

is that the same car you're trying to sell in your sig? I hope everything works out for you.

Yeah it was, I'm not selling it anymore. I didnt know it needed all that it needed. Im glad it didnt sell cuz i would have looked like a real ass hat

[Tru2Blu]

It's funny because i've heard a lot of bad things about them myself from being around a bunch of forums for so many years. I'm suprised they are still in business and still post here always having an excuse.
Good luck with everything.

Yeah, Thanks to a member on here, i was recommended to 3smotors in long island, and their reputaion preceeds them, so im comfortable. its alot of money ill be forking out in the next month or so. but ill be aight.

[Eclipse GSX 61]

I have heard numerous compalints about them. Thank god I don't own a 3000gt.

[Vr-4-Life]

What is "everything" that your car needs? id really like to know.

[Tru2Blu]

I have heard numerous compalints about them. Thank god I don't own a 3000gt.

The cars are pretty nice. Its that Hans and his shop. Worst car buying experience ever. When i think about it, i want to cause him serious bodily harm.

[tretiak]

yeah my friend devin was in business with hans a few years ago i beleive. dont worry tru ur not the only one who wants to cause serious injury to him.

[Tru2Blu]

What is "everything" that your car needs? id really like to know.

Well according to hans, the motor and trans was rebuilt. Found out they just dropped a JDM 4 bolt in there.

60K needs to be done.
Car has 3 original plug wires (like never replaced) so plugs and wires need to be replaced
Brakes and rotors all around.
Axel
Rear turbo return line.
Oil pan is leaking ( could be the rear main seal)
And the car has poor wiring, so its being redone.

This is besides the other stuff you know about.

[Tru2Blu]

yeah my friend devin was in business with hans a few years ago i beleive. dont worry tru ur not the only one who wants to cause serious injury to him.

Yeah i know, damn near everyone on 3si.org wants a piece of him, and his girl too.

[Vr-4-Life]

I guess thats why they say buyer beware.

Origional plug wires are easy to notice right off the bat too. Do you have anything in writing that they say was done to the car?

[Tru2Blu]

I guess thats why they say buyer beware.

Origional plug wires are easy to notice right off the bat too. Do you have anything in writing that they say was done to the car?

Nah, only paper work i got is from recent work. That i paid them to do. And X1000 on the buyer beware.

[Shoolig]

I've never had trouble with Hans, I buy parts from him whenever I need anything and he did some work on my 300ZX before (downpipes to be specific) he charged 200 bucks for installation and even helped me splice a bad 02 sensor with a used Skyline sensor he had laying around.

Hans is responsible for about 80% of the OEM parts used in my friends 3000GT twin turbo conversion, he always gave him good prices and good condition stuff.

He has had my friends 3000GT (black one for sale) in and out in less than 3 days for a new waterpump including waiting on parts to arrive, he was able to track down the reason the fan wasn't kicking on either after the TT swap (pins in TT ecu are different than N/A for fan relay) and hot wired it so he could make it home ok.

Chances are the 3000GT you bought from Hans is nicer than about 60% of TT 3000GT's you'll find for sale... excluding 3si.org since they know their cars and maintain them properly. My first 3KGT VR4 spun a bearing less than 2000 miles of driving, I WAS FURIOUS, but, I should've expected it considering the engine had 9x,xxx miles on it.

My friend Chris's car also spun a bearing while it was N/A and he is a maint. FREAK, he is on the 3rd engine now, 2nd transmission, 4th clutch, 3rd alternator, 3rd starter, 12 sets of plugs (at least lol), 2 water pumps. Only thing original in the car is the radiator, wiring harness, carpet/dash, body parts and glass, steering wheel/turn signal thingy, and seat belts.

Unless you get really lucky (or buy a 3/S from an enthusiast) expect a 3000GT to have one or more of the following:

Broken active aero
Probably one turbo ready to take a poop, usually the back.
An oil leak from somewhere.
Beat side bolster
Grind 1 or more gears (often, or, on occasion)
Poorly maintained timebomb for an engine.
In dire need of a 60 or 120k.
Mild to moderate lifter tick
ECS that doesn't work
Probably 1 slow window (or vertical scratching on it)
1 or more missing exhaust tips
Active exhaust actuator seized
Rattly TOB
Among a few other things.

If it runs and drives and I doesn't spin a bearing, I call it a win.

As you can see, I don't expect much in a used car... but... buyer be warned if you don't know how to remove a transmission or replace a turbo DO NOT buy a 3/S TT, they need a lot of attention- they're very nice cars when working properly but they do need attention, and, even the nicest ones break.

You bought a 3000GT, expect to replace a part or fix an issue every one-two months.

I know the 3000GT you bought probably was bought my Hans with a bad motor, and, recieved the stronger 4 bolt and was brought back to life. It's a really good starting point and for around 5,000 dollars considering the motor plus labor would cost close to that if you ever had to replace it (including labor). If you buy a used car there is absolutely no warranty, it sucks but I've read your thread- and the problems with the car aren't really that bad- I'd just fix it and enjoy it.

If you lived closer I wouldn't even mind lending a serious hand, I don't mind working on them... I do it at least once a month anyway haha.

[rich33389]

I have heard plenty of horror stories about Hanz at GZP.
That being said, I never had a problem and he gives me alot of free stuff and never had a problem. Although I do all the work to my car and never let anyone else do it for me.

[tretiak]

Yeah i know, damn near everyone on 3si.org wants a piece of him, and his girl too.

oh yeah i know ive heard plenty of horror stories. like my friend cj had a 2g gs-t took it to hans to have him put on a 50 trim turbo, got the car back was driving it home and it started overheating he pulled over and he had no coolant at all.needless to say he wasnt happy and almost put hans in his place.i think i should really tell my friend devin about this so he can post up his stories he got.

[Vr-4-Life]

I've never had trouble with Hans, I buy parts from him whenever I need anything and he did some work on my 300ZX before (downpipes to be specific) he charged 200 bucks for installation and even helped me splice a bad 02 sensor with a used Skyline sensor he had laying around.

Hans is responsible for about 80% of the OEM parts used in my friends 3000GT twin turbo conversion, he always gave him good prices and good condition stuff.

He has had my friends 3000GT (black one for sale) in and out in less than 3 days for a new waterpump including waiting on parts to arrive, he was able to track down the reason the fan wasn't kicking on either after the TT swap (pins in TT ecu are different than N/A for fan relay) and hot wired it so he could make it home ok.

Chances are the 3000GT you bought from Hans is nicer than about 60% of TT 3000GT's you'll find for sale... excluding 3si.org since they know their cars and maintain them properly. My first 3KGT VR4 spun a bearing less than 2000 miles of driving, I WAS FURIOUS, but, I should've expected it considering the engine had 9x,xxx miles on it.

My friend Chris's car also spun a bearing while it was N/A and he is a maint. FREAK, he is on the 3rd engine now, 2nd transmission, 4th clutch, 3rd alternator, 3rd starter, 12 sets of plugs (at least lol), 2 water pumps. Only thing original in the car is the radiator, wiring harness, carpet/dash, body parts and glass, steering wheel/turn signal thingy, and seat belts.

Unless you get really lucky (or buy a 3/S from an enthusiast) expect a 3000GT to have one or more of the following:

Broken active aero Mine works 100%
Probably one turbo ready to take a poop, usually the back. Both turbos have no shaft play
An oil leak from somewhere.No oil leaks
Beat side bolster Minimal bolster wear
Grind 1 or more gears (often, or, on occasion) tranny shifts 100% from launch to redline
Poorly maintained timebomb for an engine. who knows its still going strong
In dire need of a 60 or 120k. performed.
Mild to moderate lifter tick yep got that in the cold heh
ECS that doesn't work works 100%
Probably 1 slow window (or vertical scratching on it) minor scratches
1 or more missing exhaust tips all four present
Active exhaust actuator seized active exhaust works
Rattly TOB nope
Among a few other things.

If it runs and drives and I doesn't spin a bearing, I call it a win.

As you can see, I don't expect much in a used car... but... buyer be warned if you don't know how to remove a transmission or replace a turbo DO NOT buy a 3/S TT, they need a lot of attention- they're very nice cars when working properly but they do need attention, and, even the nicest ones break.

You bought a 3000GT, expect to replace a part or fix an issue every one-two months.

I know the 3000GT you bought probably was bought my Hans with a bad motor, and, recieved the stronger 4 bolt and was brought back to life. It's a really good starting point and for around 5,000 dollars considering the motor plus labor would cost close to that if you ever had to replace it (including labor). If you buy a used car there is absolutely no warranty, it sucks but I've read your thread- and the problems with the car aren't really that bad- I'd just fix it and enjoy it.

If you lived closer I wouldn't even mind lending a serious hand, I don't mind working on them... I do it at least once a month anyway haha.


maybe i just got lucky but my vr4 is MINT. Garage kept and it was owned by a 25 year old.

I saw tru2blues and i felt like it was frankenstiened together with spare parts...


buyer beware.. I have no problems with hans and i may give them some business one day

[Tru2Blu]

maybe i just got lucky but my vr4 is MINT. Garage kept and it was owned by a 25 year old.

I saw tru2blues and i felt like it was frankenstiened together with spare parts...


buyer beware.. I have no problems with hans and i may give them some business one day

Good lucc man. Im just going to cut my losses and stay away from him. Save me some trouble

[Shoolig]

maybe i just got lucky but my vr4 is MINT. Garage kept and it was owned by a 25 year old.

I saw tru2blues and i felt like it was frankenstiened together with spare parts...


buyer beware.. I have no problems with hans and i may give them some business one day
Your car was def. an enthusiast owned 3/S.

I was looking at pictures of your car, you really did snag a nice one. Most are not near as clean, your car must have been garage kept most of it's life.

I had a pearl white one as well, it decent shape- but- spun a bearing shortly after I bought it and later found it it needed a TOB and 60k when I bought it.

I won't be buying another unless I'm sure of condition, and, will be yanking the oil pan and checking out bearings before purchase. Not gettin' burned again lol.

Seriously though, a working 3000GT VR4 is one of the best cars you can drive... but a broken one is one of the worst.

[Vr-4-Life]

indoobidibly.

[greg6g72]

hans did my clutch and lightened flywheel in my 3g eclipse, car drives completely fine, but he did leave 2 bolts where the wiper blades and windshield meet......never again will i return there

[ho1ywars]

he plugged a vacuumn line on Qs car with a self tapping screw. the dude is a hack job and doesnt deserve to work on cars, any cars.

[Vr-4-Life]

eh.. ive done that.. but it is a real hack and its not elegant at all. in fact its really half assed. I wonder what else was half assed.

[Tru2Blu]

all his hacc **** is being taken cared of now. the car is in good hands. ho1ywars, as soon as i get it bacc we gotta get up. whats up with dillon and the other civic dude. lol

[PUREKDM]

how many negative threads are you going to make about gzp? seriously do you have anything better to do with your life? i have been going to gzp for years now and not ONCE was it a negative experience. any problem i ever had was dealt with quickly and correctly. why??? because i went back respectully and talked to them like normal human beings, not go online and cry like little girls when my 15 year old twin turbo engine blows up...many people on here had good experiences but its much more rare to see a positive review than a negative one. i've been at hans' shop when someone would drive back with a car they bought with an issue, he has dropped whatever he was doing, and even taken parts off of HIS OWN CAR to make sure what he sold was working to the buyers liking. as stated in here, the cars are NOTORIOUS for breaking. its a 15 year old sports car that has gone through 6 different teenagers beating the **** out of it...what do you expect....

from now on, make ONE thread saying "don't go to, buy from, get your car worked on by, eat diner with, look at, smell, or vote for the same president as Hans @ GZP". that'll save everyone a lot of time.

[cmr076]

^ ive heard both good and bad things about him... unfortunately you can have a million happy customers but the few pissed off ones are the only ones that speak up.

[ho1ywars]

how many negative threads are you going to make about gzp? seriously do you have anything better to do with your life? i have been going to gzp for years now and not ONCE was it a negative experience. any problem i ever had was dealt with quickly and correctly. why??? because i went back respectully and talked to them like normal human beings, not go online and cry like little girls when my 15 year old twin turbo engine blows up...many people on here had good experiences but its much more rare to see a positive review than a negative one. i've been at hans' shop when someone would drive back with a car they bought with an issue, he has dropped whatever he was doing, and even taken parts off of HIS OWN CAR to make sure what he sold was working to the buyers liking. as stated in here, the cars are NOTORIOUS for breaking. its a 15 year old sports car that has gone through 6 different teenagers beating the **** out of it...what do you expect....

from now on, make ONE thread saying "don't go to, buy from, get your car worked on by, eat diner with, look at, smell, or vote for the same president as Hans @ GZP". that'll save everyone a lot of time.

will he take the motor and trans out of HIS CAR and put it in Qs, since obviously neither have been rebuilt like hans said he did? Q is one of the most patient people i know. he went back countless times before posting anything on here. hans failed to make things right.. This thread, and future threads are to warn people of his shoty work, cars, and promises.

[Tru2Blu]

how many negative threads are you going to make about gzp? seriously do you have anything better to do with your life? i have been going to gzp for years now and not ONCE was it a negative experience. any problem i ever had was dealt with quickly and correctly. why??? because i went back respectully and talked to them like normal human beings, not go online and cry like little girls when my 15 year old twin turbo engine blows up...many people on here had good experiences but its much more rare to see a positive review than a negative one. i've been at hans' shop when someone would drive back with a car they bought with an issue, he has dropped whatever he was doing, and even taken parts off of HIS OWN CAR to make sure what he sold was working to the buyers liking. as stated in here, the cars are NOTORIOUS for breaking. its a 15 year old sports car that has gone through 6 different teenagers beating the **** out of it...what do you expect....

from now on, make ONE thread saying "don't go to, buy from, get your car worked on by, eat diner with, look at, smell, or vote for the same president as Hans @ GZP". that'll save everyone a lot of time.

I have given Hans tons of time to make things right, all i get if bull **** excuses like, "sorry man i just got bacc from vacation" or i was just about to send you a message, but im cleaning the garage so ill get bacc to you." And like ive said in other threads, hans knows his way around the 3s engine bay. the way he conducts business is all the way arse.

He is yet to hit me bacc about my syncros, and i know he has seen this thread, if he hasnt his girl did.

And as for you, luccy you. you were one that had a good experience. hat off to you. but you dont know what ive been thru with this dude, so you cant talk. ya dig? And i did not expect to get a 17 year old cat that runs like a 2009. I expected what he told me to be true. How do you tell me the trans was rebuilt and its grinding gears. bet you would be pissed of if that happened to you. correct me if im wrong. And since youve had so many good experiences with him. tell him to send me my syncros its only the right thing to do.

[greg6g72]

^^^ people arent picking on hans just for s@$% and giggles yeah a lot of people have gotten good work from him thats why he's still in business but some people have horror stories like tru2blu, im sorry man that really sucks thats he's dicking you around, its just people deserve to hear these stories so maybe they will second guess going there and maybe it'll save them some time and money this tread wasnt started to just completely bash hans its just a review on gzp and the work they do and alot of people think its a piss poor effort he's putting in and i agree

[Hans_GZP]

I have given Hans tons of time to make things right, all i get if bull **** excuses like, "sorry man i just got bacc from vacation" or i was just about to send you a message, but im cleaning the garage so ill get bacc to you." And like ive said in other threads, hans knows his way around the 3s engine bay. the way he conducts business is all the way arse.

He is yet to hit me bacc about my syncros, and i know he has seen this thread, if he hasnt his girl did.

And as for you, luccy you. you were one that had a good experience. hat off to you. but you dont know what ive been thru with this dude, so you cant talk. ya dig? And i did not expect to get a 17 year old cat that runs like a 2009. I expected what he told me to be true. How do you tell me the trans was rebuilt and its grinding gears. bet you would be pissed of if that happened to you. correct me if im wrong. And since youve had so many good experiences with him. tell him to send me my syncros its only the right thing to do.

I still don't have a second gear syncro. When I come across one, I will let you know. I can't just whittle this bitch out of wood or purchase one for that matter. I had rebuilt that trans for another customer who had since blown his engine up. I bought the trans back from him and he told me it was still shifting properly. Why would I think differently? He never complained to me about a transmission problem, and he would have, if he had one, since he paid me to rebuild it.

Yes, I put in a 4 bolt used engine when I said I would put in a rebuilt 2 bolt. I told you that when you were buying the car.

[Hans_GZP]

he plugged a vacuumn line on Qs car with a self tapping screw. the dude is a hack job and doesnt deserve to work on cars, any cars.

Everyone plugs that vacuum line with a screw. It's not like it's going to leak and it's hard to get your hands way down in the engine bay to place a vacuum cap on the t-fitting. Also, I don't like using vacuum caps on that t-fitting because I have found them to blow off. Then you have no wastegate controll and a blown engine.

[Hans_GZP]

hans did my clutch and lightened flywheel in my 3g eclipse, car drives completely fine, but he did leave 2 bolts where the wiper blades and windshield meet......never again will i return there

I have no idea who you are.

[Hans_GZP]

Well according to hans, the motor and trans was rebuilt. Found out they just dropped a JDM 4 bolt in there.

60K needs to be done.
Car has 3 original plug wires (like never replaced) so plugs and wires need to be replaced
Brakes and rotors all around.
Axel
Rear turbo return line.
Oil pan is leaking ( could be the rear main seal)
And the car has poor wiring, so its being redone.

This is besides the other stuff you know about.

60K needs to be done. we replaced the timing belt for you when we did the crank angle sensor.... remember?
Car has 3 original plug wires (like never replaced) so plugs and wires need to be replaced I don't recall what it had on it, but it wasn't stated that the car had new plugs and wires when you bought it. You should have said something to me when you picked up the car, but you had no complaints on how it was running when you bought it.
Brakes and rotors all around. never said it had new brakes on it
Axel could need a new axle, I don't remember
Rear turbo return line. oil return lines leak all the time on a vr4
Oil pan is leaking ( could be the rear main seal) wasn't leaking when I sold it. I'm not a fortune teller.
And the car has poor wiring, so its being redone. it has wiring from 1992 and it's a mitsubishi

You bought the car from me over a year ago and you're still complaining!!!!!

[cavillac95]

i never knew how ppl left ther cars with them ever

one look at ther shop should tell you very quickly they giv no f*cks

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