Who else can't wait for the R35 GTR Skyline?

[MPowerKai]

I'm dying for this thing to come out so I can pick one up.

Who else is down to get one?


http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/EVENT_LEAF/20051019/109829/011.jpg

[jspek]

not a r35...r series chasis is dead. but yea WHEN you get it i live in bensalem pa. lol

[JoeScooby]

pick up a 300zx for 30 grand less and slap a bodykit on it.

[TROLL]

do you really plan to get one? i'm looking forward to its release as much as anyone but cant say i'm in the market to own... just to watch and try to bum a ride ;)
bryan

[WhiteXFire]

Is there a final decision on whether or not they're going to be sold in the US?? I'll be in the market for a car in a little less than 2 years, so these should be out by then...maybe I'll have to consider it! :mrgreen:

[Chair-Force]

At the current estimated price, its going to bomb in the U.S. market.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

deffinately hot..... whats the going price?

[WhiteXFire]

Here is some good info from www.r35gtr.com

In an effort to globalize the Nissan GTR, Nissan's CEO Carlos Ghosn has promised us in the United States the delivery of the 11th generation 2007 Nissan GTR. Recently the car was spotted at the Nurburgring track in Germany, where the test mule was well dressed in silver attire with silver rims.

We provide finalized specs from NISSAN MOTOR CO., LTD. on the test mule which was badged as an Infiniti. Sporting a body kit and "rx7" type wing, it was ready to prove itself on the track. It is speculated that Nissan brought out the car to test the suspension and chassis stiffness, bodyroll, etc. The car was found to have Silver 6 Piston Brembo brakes up front, and 4 piston in the rear. The rim package is expected to be 20x8.5J(f), 20x9.5J(r) inch aluminum rims on 255/40/20 front, 285/35/20 rear tire size Z rated performance tires.

Holiday Auto reported that the car should weigh in at 1390kg or 3058 pounds. The engine for the Nissan GTR had been decided once the car had finished testing. A VQ32DETT generating an estimated 480ps @ 7,200rpm, 58.0kg/m @ 5,200rpm. The transmission was chosen as well, a 7 speed Getrag sequential transmission, which is sure to be overpowering. The Nissan GTR will be a 2 door coupe, with 4 bucket seats(preferably Recaro).

It is rumored that Nissan Jidoshi K.K. registered a Trademark as "Nissan GTR Proto" with the description as 'supercoupe due 2007' on 2004-06-08. We have checked the trademark offices of Australia online and found it to be true. The 2007 Nissan GTR will have Carbon and Aluminum Panel providing maximum rigidity.

The 2007 Nissan GTR will be based on a new FR-L platform (Primary Front engine/Rear wheel drive transaxle, motor-assisted front wheel drive or "e-4WD") due to good results from testing. This means that Australia might possibly want to introduce it as the first Infiniti. They have tried before, but have been unsuccesful, but hopefully it will change with the 2007 Nissan GTR. Sources say it might go as an Infiniti in the United States, others beg to differ. As Nissan has yet to announce much formal information on the Nissan GTR we must say that this has been taken into consideration when making this article, but we can assure you everything above is true. Unless Nissan has will to later change anything, we inform you all that the above has been information given to us by Nissan Motors Japan themselves.

In US specs, that's ~473hp and ~420ft-lb tq.

[Chair-Force]

deffinately hot..... whats the going price?
Estimated $70k+/-

[Gorilla Unit 33]

fauck that id rather buy an r34

[1988 Olds]

Just get a Z06. Very Nice but not for 70K

[9 Ball]

I’d like to get one, however, there are many other nice cars for that price… Z06, Carrera, etc. The true test will be when it comes out.

I’ve got two years left on this car, so I’ll see what happens then.

[the mike]

I can wait. :)

[On Sale]

that is so ugly. if i saw one on the street i would probably piss on it... literally. that thing looks like a stupid space craft. they should have just kept the R34 body and design and motor. would have sold a heck of a lot more then this space ship.

[OutOfStock]

When i win the lotto ill pick one or two up.....

[2point4DSM]

Is there a final decision on whether or not they're going to be sold in the US?? I'll be in the market for a car in a little less than 2 years, so these should be out by then...maybe I'll have to consider it! :mrgreen:

Same here. But I still prefer the 4g63T powered Eclipse and putting the extra money into modding it, lol.

It does look kind of weird. But I'm sure it will grow on me pretty quick considering....

[LSHatch]

I'll take my Z06 for 5k less. Thank you.

[igo4bmx]

i'd get an aston martin if i was gonna spend that much money

[SilverTurboRidin]

If you had that car i dont think it would ever really loose value...

[DropTopChevy]

If I could afford it I would, but I can't :(

[xEJ20x]

fauck that id rather buy an r34

Ricer. :finga: j/k


But seriously, R34 is overrated and one huge bitch.
I'll take an R32 any day of the week.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

But seriously, R34 is overrated and one huge bitch.
I'll take an R32 any day of the week.
yeah i hear u on an r32 but i just rather look good and run fast then be stuck in late80's/early 90's body styling

[xEJ20x]

yeah i hear u on an r32 but i just rather look good and run fast then be stuck in late80's/early 90's body styling

R32 looks good and is fast.
Plus it handles better than its porker of a brother, R34. :mrgreen:

[Gorilla Unit 33]

R32 looks good and is fast.
Plus it handles better than its porker of a brother, R34. :mrgreen:
preaching to the preacher my brother

[xEJ20x]

preaching to the preacher my brother

My soapbox is better than your soapbox. :finga:

[Twin_Cam]

I kinda like it. And I think Nissan wins the award for longest engine designations. VQ32DETT. Hahaha, VQ block, 3.2 liter, DE who knows, twin-turbo.

I'll take an 800 horsepower Evo MR. Just as sexy, much faster.

[the mike]

DE=twin cam.

[US_R33]

My soapbox is better than your soapbox. :finga:
oh yeah? well my soapbox is better than both of your soapboxes combined :finga: :-p

on a side not.....i can wait until the new Skyline comes out :lol:

Late,
Daniel

[xEJ20x]

oh yeah? well my soapbox is better than both of your soapboxes combined :finga: :-p

You lie.

[MPowerKai]

Yes Nissan CEO promises this Skyline will be released in America. Yes I am 500% sure I'm going to get this!! Sure you can get a Z06 but I can still have fun with the atessa pro awd when it snows while the z06 sits and waits. The Skyline can seat 4, barely but 4 while the z06 seats 2. The z06 will probably cost more to insure and it will most likely only be able to beat the Skyline in a long straight line something the GTR was not designed for. It was designed for crazy tracks just like the M3.

[Juggernaut]

Ehh, not a fan, and the cost steers me further away. I don't see it being worth the 70k price tag. I also don't see it being sucessful in the US market. The people who can afford that kind of car wouldn't buy Japanese, thats just how it works in the US. How many Japanese sports cars do you see on the road that are over 60k? Take the NSX for example, I think its a great looking car but most people don't want to spend that kind of money for it new.

[MPowerKai]

I'm not a big fan of the NSX either but there are 2 running around my neighborhood. The reason why the NSX is so expensive is because they are handbuilt which the general public does not realize. This thing is as close to a ferrari as you can get without paying that type of price. Handles like a dream. They also don't depreciate that much.

I for one will also be very pleased if it doesn't sell like crack in the US just because I don't want to pay 65k just to see everyone else driving the same car. One of the few reasons I don't like the E46 M3

[themadhatter]

I'll take two, one for the winter and one to tow my bimmer around.

[MPowerKai]

I'll take two, one for the winter and one to tow my bimmer around.


WooHoo!!! Group buy!! :mrgreen:

[moorefire]

Ehh, not a fan, and the cost steers me further away. I don't see it being worth the 70k price tag. I also don't see it being sucessful in the US market. The people who can afford that kind of car wouldn't buy Japanese, thats just how it works in the US. How many Japanese sports cars do you see on the road that are over 60k? Take the NSX for example, I think its a great looking car but most people don't want to spend that kind of money for it new.

Exactly, the american Joe Homeowner dosen't appreciate technical innovation. They just wanna buy a vette when they turn 40.

They're cool, and worth every penny I'm sure, but they're still overhyped, and all the fanboys that really want them can't afford one...

[xEJ20x]

They're cool, and worth every penny I'm sure, but they're still overhyped, and all the fanboys that really want them can't afford one...

Sounds exactly like the R34. :finga:

[WhiteXFire]

Oh, and FYI, it's not a Skyline GT-R...it's officially starting it's own lineage separate from Skyline.

I have the same dilemma with the new Z06...decisions, decisions. :help:
Glad I have 2 years to ponder and save up.

[Raven18940]

Eh, Japanese cars are all kinda blah, no matter how fast they are.

[Little G]

things going be badass

[CarbonIS]

i'm not even going to make a comment because i don't plan on being able to

afford either a gtr or a z06 anytime soon, nor would i spend the money anytime

soon even if i had it to spend...



i will say its cool looking and the z06 is fast. there are my comments.

[wgknestrick]

The new Z06 just has more universal respect and tuning potentional for this to be a "viable" option to me. To me, this is just a factory suped up Z car, not even deserving of the "skyline" badge. Nothing jumps out at me for the "gotta have it" feature.

For example, when I drive my father's SC Z06 around, EVERYONE gives me thumbs up, nice car compiments. When I drive my STI around, only punk teenagers give me compliments. I would imagine the same would ring true with this. EVERYONE knows what a vette/Z06 is.

As for the snow argument, I can't imagine wanting to risk an $60K car like this on ice/snow.

[LSHatch]

The z06 will probably cost more to insure and it will most likely only be able to beat the Skyline in a long straight line something the GTR was not designed for. It was designed for crazy tracks just like the M3.


Don't know much about the Z06 do you?? I garauntee that the Z06 wipes the Skyline around a track.

And insurance will most likely be higher on the Infiniti. Buying the Z06 over a regular C6 isn't a huge jump in rates. Most insuracne companies don't even know the difference.

[IBLIS]

I'd still rather buy a sub 30k turbo car & throw a fat snail on it. The GTR really doesn't do it for me, esp with a 70k price tag..

[WhiteXFire]

Don't know much about the Z06 do you?? I garauntee that the Z06 wipes the Skyline around a track.

And insurance will most likely be higher on the Infiniti. Buying the Z06 over a regular C6 isn't a huge jump in rates. Most insuracne companies don't even know the difference.
I would agree, except for the fact that I've been reading about the GT-R that says they do not have a motor/hp goal in mind, but rather a 7:40's lap at the Nurburgring.

[Chair-Force]

I would agree, except for the fact that I've been reading about the GT-R that says they do not have a motor/hp goal in mind, but rather a 7:40's lap at the Nurburgring.

Japanese supercars dont sell in the states, period. The NSX has bombed for the last 10 years compared to any car in it's hp/price range. Unless the new Skyline sells for the same or lower price then the Z06, it wont last two years in the states. The majority of people in the states with that kind of dough to toss around are 45+ year old, white men who aren't going to drop 70k on a Nissan when they look at the other options. Thats reality, it could run a 3 minute lap around PA and still bomb in sales.

[WhiteXFire]

Japanese supercars dont sell in the states, period. The NSX has bombed for the last 10 years compared to any car in it's hp/price range. Unless the new Skyline sells for the same or lower price then the Z06, it wont last two years in the states. The majority of people in the states with that kind of dough to toss around are 45+ year old, white men who aren't going to drop 70k on a Nissan when they look at the other options. Thats reality, it could run a 3 minute lap around PA and still bomb in sales.
And that has nothing to do with what I was talking about/responding to. I simply said that I would have agreed initially that the Z06 would destroy it around the track, except that it seems that Nissan is designing the GT-R for specifically that. I could care less how it sells. Personally, I'd rather own a car that everyone else doesn't have.

[US_R33]

And that has nothing to do with what I was talking about/responding to. I simply said that I would have agreed initially that the Z06 would destroy it around the track, except that it seems that Nissan is designing the GT-R for specifically that. I could care less how it sells. Personally, I'd rather own a car that everyone else doesn't have.
agreed

and as for the comments about who can afford the new Skyline.......you can't be serious :rofl: there are PLENTY of people in their late 20s-early 30s who can afford a $70,000 car.....remember, that's spread out over 3-5 years now :wink:

Late,
Daniel

[MPowerKai]

As for the snow argument, I can't imagine wanting to risk an $60K car like this on ice/snow.

Why? its designed for all year round. I drive my M3 around in snow and sleet and its rwd.
As for the Z06 Vs GTR on track I'm pretty confident to say the GTR stands a pretty good chance of winning.

[TROLL]

:crosses fingers for top gear episode with new skyline vs. new z06:

[MPowerKai]

:crosses fingers for top gear episode with new skyline vs. new z06:


I love top gear!!! and best motoring :mrgreen:

[capaGC8]

:bigeek: i don't know why we're discussing the gtr vs. z06... we know the z is $68,500 in the most popular form, but where did we get the notion that the gtr will be in that price range?

look at the sti and evo - everyone always said they wouldn't be brought over because they would be in the $40-45k range. of course, they made some changes in earlier models to ensure a successful launch and now we're getting the best of the best (even better IMO - EJ257 that aussies are swapping in over the EJ207).

i just think nissan knows better than to release a car that would be 100% more than the current plaform it's base off of. a fully loaded g35 coupe is $35k, i couldn't see the gtr being more than $50-55k for the first year. i can however see myself in one at that price :mrgreen:

cliff notes: don't start a war that hasn't been started unless you want me to call you bush...

[US_R33]

i just think nissan knows better than to release a car that would be 100% more than the current plaform it's base off of. a fully loaded g35 coupe is $35k, i couldn't see the gtr being more than $50-55k for the first year. i can however see myself in one at that price :mrgreen:
except for the fact that the new Skyline isn't even based on the G35 platform :thumbup:

[capaGC8]

except for the fact that the new Skyline isn't even based on the G35 platform :thumbup:

then why is the g35 sold in japan badged as a skyline? where do people get their info from?

the gtr will be based off of the current g35 platform, but there will be design changes to breathe new life into the, then, 4 year old model.

i see the line-up as this:

updated g35 (vq35de) - $30-35k
gts (vq32dett rwd) - $40-45k
gtr (vq322dett awd) - $50-55k

it will be badged as an infiniti as I see nissan doing the same with the 350z platform

updated 350z (vq35de) - $25-32k
350zx (vq32dett rwd) - $35k-40k

this would help nissan win over some of the market from the evo and sti...

[WhiteXFire]

First off, as I've said several times and I'm sure people already know, it's NOT a Skyline...it's starting it's own lineage as the GT-R.

Second, "The 2007 Nissan GTR will be based on a new FR-L platform (Primary Front engine/Rear wheel drive transaxle, motor-assisted front wheel drive or "e-4WD") due to good results from testing." It is not the G35, though the "spy shots" from the track are a dressed up G35 simply for testing.

Last, I agree with the argument over pricing. Everyone said the new Z06 was going to be through the roof, and I think that turned out rather well. We'll just have to wait and see what rumors end up being true and what actually goes into production.

[MPowerKai]

can't wait :)

oh if you couldn't tell I'm anti c6 vette, imo c5 was teh best

[WhiteXFire]

oh if you couldn't tell I'm anti c6 vette, imo c5 was teh best
:bigeek: :eek: Have you driven the new one?

[US_R33]

then why is the g35 sold in japan badged as a skyline? where do people get their info from?

the gtr will be based off of the current g35 platform, but there will be design changes to breathe new life into the, then, 4 year old model
okay......the G35 is called the Skyline over in Japan b/c they wanted to differentiate the car from the Fairlady (US 350Z) and they didn't want to call it a G35 b/c Infiniti doesn't exist in Japan and Nissan didn't want people to call the car by its Infiniti name......also, if you didn't already know this, the Skyline originated as a 4 door family sedan with a few one off models as sports cars, it wasn't until the Hakosuka GTR (circa 1969, chassis code KPGC10), which may very well be one of the reasons as to why Nissan called the G35 sedan the Skyline

where do i get my info from? no i don't think i know everything about Skylines simply b/c i own one lol (figured i'd address that before somebody started in) i learned all about Skylines from extensive research online......here's a link for a rather brief but good history of the Skyline moniker
Consider yourselves schooled in Skyline goodness (http://www.skylinesdownunder.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=40) :afro:

Late,
Daniel

[CarbonIS]

i like this argument....go on...

[capaGC8]

ok, i'll have to take your word for the name and new lineage since you have a skyline :mrgreen:

on the other hand though - i believe nissan, like most companies nowadays, are focusing on resurrecting older models using past techniques. this is why you see a 4dr g35 and the new z. this theory also helps my estimated pricing scheme since it covers a huge price point margin (25k-60k) and adds balance to an already superb line-up.

whether or not nissan decides to "kill off" the skyline name remains to be seen. even though the GTR is not named the same it will still be compared to the R34, and past skylines, as if it was one, and i think it would be a bad idea on their part since most people would feel like they are trying to avoid something.

oh and btw - the skyline's heritage reminds me of the mustang's, but currently more so the corvette.

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Second, "The 2007 Nissan GTR will be based on a new FR-L platform (Primary Front engine/Rear wheel drive transaxle, motor-assisted front wheel drive or "e-4WD") due to good results from testing." It is not the G35, though the "spy shots" from the track are a dressed up G35 simply for testing.
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I have to disagree with this simply based on the fact of how much money nissan has invested in the FMS platform that underpins the 350z, g35, and now the m. a motor assisted awd system would make a great commuter car, but does not belong in the company's next iconic sports car.

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oh if you couldn't tell I'm anti c6 vette, imo c5 was teh best

:screwy: the c6 z51 and z06 are some of the best cars that have ever been produced. the c5 was the greatest vette until 2005 though :mrgreen:

[WhiteXFire]

Well, like I said, we won't really know until something official is released.
I was quoting my earlier post in which I referenced http://www.r35gtr.com

The 2007 Nissan GTR will be based on a new FR-L platform (Primary Front engine/Rear wheel drive transaxle, motor-assisted front wheel drive or "e-4WD") due to good results from testing. This means that Australia might possibly want to introduce it as the first Infiniti. They have tried before, but have been unsuccesful, but hopefully it will change with the 2007 Nissan GTR. Sources say it might go as an Infiniti in the United States, others beg to differ. As Nissan has yet to announce much formal information on the Nissan GTR we must say that this has been taken into consideration when making this article, but we can assure you everything above is true. Unless Nissan has will to later change anything, we inform you all that the above has been information given to us by Nissan Motors Japan themselves.

[Chair-Force]

Personally, I'd rather own a car that everyone else doesn't have.
You already have that covered.

[Chair-Force]

then why is the g35 sold in japan badged as a skyline? where do people get their info from?

the gtr will be based off of the current g35 platform..
Obviously not the crack-smoker you got your info from.

[WhiteXFire]

You already have that covered.
Yessir! It's one of the reasons I decided on it over some of the other options. Hopefully my next car will be the same. :mrgreen:

[US_R33]

i'm glad you enjoyed the link on the history of the Skyline :mrgreen:

and yes you should believe me b/c i own a Skyline :rofl: :-p :wink:

[MPowerKai]

:bigeek: :eek: Have you driven the new one?

I'm more of an overall person. I just don't like the c6 exterior. Interior is ok but could do with some changes.

I'd love to test drive one but I go into a dealership and they see some 20 year old chinese kid they always turn me down :mad: