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freewilly
01-03-2009, 03:22 PM
I haven't ever driven a domestic car... at all. Anyways.... instead of going to one of the mustang forums and hearing a bunch of biased praise. (and since im lazy) I was wondering what people's opinions are of these cars? The fox body mustangs that is.
Are they fun to drive? Is it easy to step out the rear end? How's the steering feel? I'm guessing the engine is pretty good?
How's maintenance? Is it true that ford stands for ****er Only Runs Downhill? ..I hear parts for them are really cheap.
And of course, if anyone has some pics plz post them.
Scapegoat
01-03-2009, 03:23 PM
I haven't ever driven
i can't get passed this...
ok, i managed to...
parts are plentiful and relatively cheap. 80's v8s were horrible stock, most barely put out 150hp. good platform to work on, something breaks... parts are easy to find
240sxDann
01-03-2009, 03:29 PM
i can't get passed this...
ok, i managed to...
parts are plentiful and relatively cheap. 80's v8s were horrible stock, most barely put out 150hp. good platform to work on, something breaks... parts are easy to find
Pretty much. I had a 93 LX 5.0 5 speed. It put 192whp and 262ft lbs of torque basically stock. Cut a 14.6 quarter. What do you need to know? PM me if you want, I have had one, and I deal with mustangs every single day. They are great cars, I loved mine. They're better if you dont mind putting some money into it. But, its not gonna be anything like any import you've driven. They handle *ok*, they handle *good* if you put money into suspension, but again to get it to handle great like a decently set up 240 or something like that on coilovers, it takes a lot of money. Its very easy to kick the ass end out, but its hard to control. Again any questions your have pm me. But long story short, they're fun for goin straight and doing burnouts, but if you want it to handle good, look to drop big money.
EDIT: And yes, they are fun to drive! Mods are so cheap for them its kinda crazy. You can slap a full vortech s-trim v2 supercharger kit and make like 350whp for about $3500, and thats on a stock motor. Plus, mustangs just sound badass!
OutToWinPAHC
01-03-2009, 03:39 PM
There are a lot of parts for them. Whatever you want to do with it you can. I've been in a 300rwhp GT and it was fun, not crazy fast but it was a fun car to drive. But you can make it into whatever you want to.
GOULET
01-03-2009, 03:44 PM
put a 1j in it :mrgreen:
freewilly
01-03-2009, 08:02 PM
Thanks for the opinions and info, I may consider getting one of these down the road now since it sounds like they are really easy to mod. Definitely interesting.... I just found out it's not uncommon to swap in an IRS in favor of the solid rear axle... that's friggin awesome.
240sxDann
01-03-2009, 08:15 PM
Yea people swap the IRS out of the cobra's, its hilarious though because the cobra guys swap in solid axles lol. If you do have any other questions, technical or opinions, just shoot me a PM! Always glad to help when I can.
frosti108
01-03-2009, 10:11 PM
I went to look at a few a couple years ago when i was interested in buying one. I couldnt really get into them. They just feel sloppy compared to the nissans i was used to. Even the body up close doesn't look as nice.
But i was driving mainly mid 90s nissans like s13 and z32. so yea the foxbody is a little older. When i got into s12s, I found mine which is an 88, and truthfully, the s12 200sx and the foxbody stang are about on par with eachother. Both handle a bit sloppy, both come with a torquey V motor... the s12 does have a sort of older IRS, so it may handle a bit better than the stang. .. on the other hand though it has 2 less cyl. but the same overall 80s crappy quality
bmatyeah
01-03-2009, 11:58 PM
if you want something practical, and pretty fast a mustang is good. when you get to the handling aspect its just never going to be as nice. id go fox or new edge.
Parts are cheap.
Scapegoat
01-04-2009, 12:14 AM
i personally would love to have an '86 with t-tops...
IdriveBad
01-04-2009, 12:21 AM
^^ T-tops would be awesome. I was a real big fan of notchbacks, was looking to get one years back but never found anything good.
240sxDann
01-04-2009, 12:25 AM
notch backs that are original 5.0's, and in any sort of good condition, are getting hard to find. I'd LOVE if I could find a cheap 5.0 notch. I like new edge the most, I was actually trying to get one recently but finances dont allow currently. Like I said though, they are good cheap fun.
Scapegoat
01-04-2009, 12:28 AM
there was an 85 svo for sale down the road from me a couple months back... wanted 5k for it... if i didn't have the truck, and i had the money in the bank, i'd have bought it up...
240sxDann
01-04-2009, 12:29 AM
SVO's are awesome, but if I'm getting a mustang, I want 8 slugs bangin.
wow I really just said that.
IdriveBad
01-04-2009, 12:35 AM
Did you tip back your trucker cap when you said that?
nthngnss844
01-04-2009, 12:37 AM
i think fox are the best looking body style for some reason...i can explain a lot about them from 89 to 92 the hp rating was 225hp and 300 tourqe...in 93 it was bumped down to 215? but i love them there not ment for handleing and thats a fact...but there fun to drive and the 5.0 (302) sounds awsome with aftermarket exhaust on them
OMGz Turbo
01-04-2009, 01:58 AM
I have already had 3 of these foxbodys, a 93lx hatch 5.0, 91 GT hatch, and now i currently own a 92 Notchback 5.0 well no longer a 5.0 but its still a notch, now all black with black cobra r's. and i LOVE IT, probably the best one i have owned so far and the cleanest had 87k original on it and i found it in some old ladys garage for 2000$.
HickRocket1258
01-04-2009, 10:56 AM
Go for a notchback if any one of them. They are the lightest out of all the Foxes. Parts go for real cheap used. Good longtubes used can go for around 150-200. 4.10s will also wake it up a lot. My friend has 3000 stall converter, a couple minor boltons and suspension work on a lx, and he is running mid 13s. Aren't fast out of factory but don't take much either.
OMGz Turbo
01-04-2009, 11:53 AM
A buddy of mines lx hatch had minor bolt ons and a shot of nitrous ran 12.9 so doesnt take much at all.
My notch is currently sitting at the 650HP mark
illmatic1690
01-05-2009, 07:00 PM
hows the gas mileage?
one8turbo
01-05-2009, 07:05 PM
drift50.com
ndubz
01-05-2009, 08:43 PM
They have a 5.0 Liter V8 and have alot of drag potential
Other than that I hear they need to be fixed or repaired on a daily basis.
And that many have been found on the road dead.
just some things u may wanna know..
blewby u
01-05-2009, 09:09 PM
i love the fox body - specially the gt's cause of the tails. i'd never get a 4 cyl, but the 5.0's are promising. a friend of mine has a procharged 5.0 and it's incredible. throw a pair of slicks on so you can hook up and you'll be 11s. a lot of people seem to spray them with a 150 shot but i wouldn't recommend it. if you're looking to drag it get an automatic with a stall converter and drag struts would be sick and you'd scare the s*** out of people bench racing lol. man, put some 373s in it and cam it and that thing will rip. i want one now. the few people i know with fox bodys with some work never had problem with the stock rear but idk. you should buy one
edit: hm put a chevy motor in it. i can't argue with the above acronyms.
ThePrimerSuspect
01-05-2009, 09:39 PM
if im not mistaken, the 5.0 bottom end is forged from the factory. my 91 has around 200k and does not burn a drop of oil and is still powerful as ever. with the 88 it was a dog till i put underdrive pulleys and a lightweight flywheel on to bring the r's up quicker. taller gears and a full exhaust. thats all i have done and it would pull on my stage 2 SRT4 by about half a car. all for under 2 grand including the price of the car.
OMGz Turbo
01-05-2009, 09:56 PM
i love the fox body - specially the gt's cause of the tails. i'd never get a 4 cyl, but the 5.0's are promising. a friend of mine has a procharged 5.0 and it's incredible. throw a pair of slicks on so you can hook up and you'll be 11s. a lot of people seem to spray them with a 150 shot but i wouldn't recommend it. if you're looking to drag it get an automatic with a stall converter and drag struts would be sick and you'd scare the s*** out of people bench racing lol. man, put some 373s in it and cam it and that thing will rip. i want one now. the few people i know with fox bodys with some work never had problem with the stock rear but idk. you should buy one
edit: hm put a chevy motor in it. i can't argue with the above acronyms.
Takes alot more than it looks like to hit 11's weither you believe it or not.
PhillyLS1
01-05-2009, 09:56 PM
You don't buy a fox platform for it's handling ability. You buy it to drag race. However with money they can be amazing corner carvers, but it's going to cost you. An early 80's domestic muscle car is not going to handle like a late 90's import sports car. If you want grunt and handling buy a corvette. You want handling w/ less grunt stick with the imports.
Here are the differences in years in the foxes:
1987....... 85 mph speedo, speed density (really not a whole lot of camshaft choices, and modded the car will hunt for idle a little regardless), t-top option
1988....... same, very, very few changes
1989.......conversion to mass air ( no more speed density, way more choices when modding, but did drop hp a little because of the MAF sensor size), 140 mph speedo (some still had 85mph), no more t-top option
1990.......mass air, addition of air bag, no tilt steering, possibility of no center console, slight drop in hp but this was not reflected in the overall rating
1991.......bigger fender openings for new 16 " wheels another slight drop in hp
1992.......power seats option, basically the same, lowest production though and very hard to find.
1993.......switched to hypereutectic pistons, slight drop in hp again, new rating system drops it to 205hp 275 lbs/ft.
There were slight engine changes in the GT from 87-93, and all of them decreased hp, so basically the earliest will have the most hp, but mass air really is nice when you mod.
If you want to road race a muscle car get an LS1 F-Body or a 03/04 Cobra. However F-Bodies can't drift for **** because of the torque arm suspension. If you want to drift, the 4-link is a much better option.
But what do I know? I just like to comb my mullet :-p
Scapegoat
01-05-2009, 10:02 PM
i'd sell my srt-4 in a heart beat if i could find a decent '86 GT...
my uncle had an 88 or 89 GT... painted it bright lime green with black paint on the hood along the raised part...
it sounds gaudy, but it actually was very very well done and looked perfect. When he was getting ready to get rid of it (he was picking up a 90 something cobra) he wanted to give me the car... being 17... my parents said "no"
sold it to a kid he worked with, 18 y/o... had it for a month, laid it out into some trucks in the lafferty chevrolet parking lot, in the back in 4th gear... ****er...
OMGz Turbo
01-05-2009, 10:05 PM
You don't buy a fox platform for it's handling ability. You buy it to drag race. However with money they can be amazing corner carvers, but it's going to cost you. An early 80's domestic muscle car is not going to handle like a late 90's import sports car. If you want grunt and handling buy a corvette. You want handling w/ less grunt stick with the imports.
Here are the differences in years in the foxes:
1987....... 85 mph speedo, speed density (really not a whole lot of camshaft choices, and modded the car will hunt for idle a little regardless), t-top option
1988....... same, very, very few changes
1989.......conversion to mass air ( no more speed density, way more choices when modding, but did drop hp a little because of the MAF sensor size), 140 mph speedo (some still had 85mph), no more t-top option
1990.......mass air, addition of air bag, no tilt steering, possibility of no center console, slight drop in hp but this was not reflected in the overall rating
1991.......bigger fender openings for new 16 " wheels another slight drop in hp
1992.......power seats option, basically the same, lowest production though and very hard to find.
1993.......switched to hypereutectic pistons, slight drop in hp again, new rating system drops it to 205hp 275 lbs/ft.
There were slight engine changes in the GT from 87-93, and all of them decreased hp, so basically the earliest will have the most hp, but mass air really is nice when you mod.
If you want to road race a muscle car get an LS1 F-Body or a 03/04 Cobra. However F-Bodies can't drift for **** because of the torque arm suspension. If you want to drift, the 4-link is a much better option.
But what do I know? I just like to comb my mullet :-p
Bravo!
For real i got super lucky on finding my 1992 Notchback, 86k original miles within its first week of being in my possession it was introduced to bassani headers, xpipe and mufflers...all basically mandral bent and welded by myself..That followed a cold air intake and throttle body.. then it got a little nutty.
PhillyLS1
01-05-2009, 10:15 PM
Bravo!
For real i got super lucky on finding my 1992 Notchback, 86k original miles within its first week of being in my possession it was introduced to bassani headers, xpipe and mufflers...all basically mandral bent and welded by myself..That followed a cold air intake and throttle body.. then it got a little nutty.
I still dream of a day I can find a clean notch and chuck an LS1 in there. I know it's a sin, but I just can't help it ;)
OMGz Turbo
01-05-2009, 10:54 PM
I still dream of a day I can find a clean notch and chuck an LS1 in there. I know it's a sin, but I just can't help it ;)
Before my setup now it had a BBC in it!!! hahaha
240sxDann
01-05-2009, 10:58 PM
two words....turbo notch.
enigma
01-05-2009, 11:24 PM
My buddy had one for a hot minute, and sold it b/c he didn't have the patience/time to work on it.
The stock headgaskets don't hold up to boost too well.
Fun cars, and yes, hitting 11's are easy as hell in them.
My friend at school had the following-
89 Notch, 5 speed.
Stock motor with station wagon cam in it
Headers and full exhaust,
Bumped up the fuel pressure a little bit
100-150 shot of nitrous.
Slicks and rear suspension.
Can't say it enough, fun cars to drive.
Scapegoat
01-05-2009, 11:47 PM
two words....turbo notch.
do want 84 gt350!
I was in a position to buy one a number of years ago for around 2k i think it was... i was making plans with the guy to go look at it after talking to him a bit... and he told me it had just sold :(
BigWhiteTodd
01-06-2009, 12:10 AM
My buddy is a rustang nut, anyway he had a stock 89 gt thing was awesome had that thing sideways so many times. But he sold thay and got a notch with a built 351 wasn't fast he said haha 12's. Well he got a superchager installed let's say 689hp to the wheels is fun I light car he ran a 11.04 a lot of spinning. I drove it one time iit was the best car I have drivin.
ndubz
01-06-2009, 12:27 AM
You don't buy a fox platform for it's handling ability. You buy it to drag race. However with money they can be amazing corner carvers, but it's going to cost you. An early 80's domestic muscle car is not going to handle like a late 90's import sports car. If you want grunt and handling buy a corvette. You want handling w/ less grunt stick with the imports.
Here are the differences in years in the foxes:
1987....... 85 mph speedo, speed density (really not a whole lot of camshaft choices, and modded the car will hunt for idle a little regardless), t-top option
1988....... same, very, very few changes
1989.......conversion to mass air ( no more speed density, way more choices when modding, but did drop hp a little because of the MAF sensor size), 140 mph speedo (some still had 85mph), no more t-top option
1990.......mass air, addition of air bag, no tilt steering, possibility of no center console, slight drop in hp but this was not reflected in the overall rating
1991.......bigger fender openings for new 16 " wheels another slight drop in hp
1992.......power seats option, basically the same, lowest production though and very hard to find.
1993.......switched to hypereutectic pistons, slight drop in hp again, new rating system drops it to 205hp 275 lbs/ft.
There were slight engine changes in the GT from 87-93, and all of them decreased hp, so basically the earliest will have the most hp, but mass air really is nice when you mod.
If you want to road race a muscle car get an LS1 F-Body or a 03/04 Cobra. However F-Bodies can't drift for **** because of the torque arm suspension. If you want to drift, the 4-link is a much better option.
But what do I know? I just like to comb my mullet :-p
dude, this is gold right here.
But if u want to drift, 240 SX FTW. Keep the mustangs on the strip and on the street.
240sxDann
01-06-2009, 12:30 AM
I dont know, I would really love to see a fox body get set up for drifting. That would be really interesting. I actually thought about that for a little bit, I want to do it.
PhillyLS1
01-06-2009, 01:24 AM
dude, this is gold right here.
But if u want to drift, 240 SX FTW. Keep the mustangs on the strip and on the street.
No argument here
Doms99WS6
01-06-2009, 01:32 AM
Thanks for the opinions and info, I may consider getting one of these down the road now since it sounds like they are really easy to mod. Definitely interesting.... I just found out it's not uncommon to swap in an IRS in favor of the solid rear axle... that's friggin awesome.
Yea people swap the IRS out of the cobra's, its hilarious though because the cobra guys swap in solid axles lol. If you do have any other questions, technical or opinions, just shoot me a PM! Always glad to help when I can.
Solid axle Cobras FTW... If you do get a fox, get one with a built rear and ill swap ya :cool:
OMGz Turbo
01-06-2009, 09:49 AM
Solid axle Cobras FTW... If you do get a fox, get one with a built rear and ill swap ya :cool:
haha dom i have a built rear with a locker in it, but noooo you cant have it...keep your irs ha
lownslow95
01-06-2009, 10:13 AM
My buddy has a 91 foxbody with a kenne bell going on it. :devil:
Odobenus rosmaru
01-06-2009, 10:21 AM
I really think that a 5.0 is the perfect car to learn to Drag in... there are so many parts available and the car reacts just the way it should to mods and can take some serious abuse... they really are a fun, cheap car to race.
-But I'm a import guy and straight line stuff gets boring to me.
HickRocket1258
01-06-2009, 01:05 PM
The foxes rears aren't too bad. Got the 8.8 rear which is more solid than some people make it out to be. My buddy when started with his, had 2.73 gears in there. Man was that bad. After swapping 4.10s in it, he had to of picked up about 3 or 4 tenths.
Elliott18t
01-06-2009, 01:11 PM
friend of mine had a 84? mustang with a 351 windsor engine in it.. 750 holley(i think) carb, long headers,and a couple other things hooked up to a 9" rear and 4.11 gears.. thing was a beast.
blewby u
01-06-2009, 03:13 PM
Takes alot more than it looks like to hit 11's weither you believe it or not.
with a procharger? lol i beg to differ. it'll probably blow up soon, but for the time being it'll run 11s.
240sxDann
01-06-2009, 04:38 PM
depends what kind of 11's your talking here. 5.0's will handle up to around 400hp pretty strong, after that is when they start going. Slap a vortech on a notch, make like 350whp, set of slicks, your in the 11's.
blewby u
01-06-2009, 04:42 PM
depends what kind of 11's your talking here. 5.0's will handle up to around 400hp pretty strong, after that is when they start going. Slap a vortech on a notch, make like 350whp, set of slicks, your in the 11's.
mid is good, highs are easily obtainable
sean3
01-06-2009, 04:58 PM
I still dream of a day I can find a clean notch and chuck an LS1 in there. I know it's a sin, but I just can't help it ;)
Someone on SVTperformance posted up a video of their turbo LSX foxbody running the other day. "AWESOME" describes it pretty well.
87fierogt
01-06-2009, 08:20 PM
i only read the first page so sorry if im repeating. my family has 7 cars bros 68 bigblock dart 2 dodge rams 2 87 fieros a lifted suburban that will run an 13.00 on 33 inch tires and a 92 lx 5.0 vert that is auto and it is the most confertable ride feels like a luxuary car it has the go to get out of its own way but is FAR from fast does it look good yep its painted viper blue i love the car to death would i get tired of driving it as a daily yes but with some mods which are veryyy cheap if you hit ebay,cl,friends of friends or junkyards for 351's etc it can be made into a solid car on a budget. i would honestly put coilovers all the way around and drop it about 2 inchs the car feels to high and has to much body roll stock. hope what i said made sense
OMGz Turbo
01-06-2009, 09:39 PM
depends what kind of 11's your talking here. 5.0's will handle up to around 400hp pretty strong, after that is when they start going. Slap a vortech on a notch, make like 350whp, set of slicks, your in the 11's.
How about slapping a vortech on my notch and making 650RWHP. Even more with more tuning, meth and nitrous setup
blewby u
01-06-2009, 11:34 PM
How about slapping a vortech on my notch and making 650RWHP. Even more with more tuning, meth and nitrous setup
lol you'd blow up in the middle of your first pass
240sxDann
01-07-2009, 12:09 AM
lol you'd blow up in the middle of your first pass
lol I dont think it blew up? Pretty sure he has a running 650hp fox.
OMGz Turbo
01-07-2009, 03:04 AM
Correct its been together, its capable of 800HP safely to be 100% honest. I would love to call it bullet proof, however thats like asking for trouble.
Doms99WS6
01-07-2009, 03:07 AM
Correct its been together, its capable of 800HP safely to be 100% honest. I would love to call it bullet proof, however thats like asking for trouble.
So when ya bringin it to the track?? or the "streets" of l-town lol
c0nfl1kt
01-07-2009, 03:16 AM
Believe it or not, the foxes have an excellent suspension to start with so they get good traction even with tiny 245 DR's. Like someone else has already mentioned, parts are cheap and plentiful to make it fast and twisty-loving, too. Although, I have to admit, they have the drag coefficient of a brick.
When I start my fox project it's going to be an 81 cobra roller in which I will put a nice 2.3L ford into with a nice little turbo.
ndubz
01-07-2009, 04:24 AM
SVO FTW fooooo. even tho it looked like crap.
OMGz Turbo
01-07-2009, 09:28 AM
So when ya bringin it to the track?? or the "streets" of l-town lol
Its been around it was out the other week when it was nice out, but it needs inspected and what not
tcturbo91
01-07-2009, 10:03 AM
i love foxbodys. there is something about them thats just plain awesome. I think i may end up with another after the Z goes, though they aren't the best daily drivers. i'd love to have a nice fox and a nice import DD, thats my ultimate goal.
BlkWhtTSI
01-07-2009, 10:12 AM
i have an '85 mustang its not fast but its not slow beat a porsche awhile back, not a boxter but some convertable. They are fun cars to drive stock i can spin the tires and get 'er sideways no problem. steering is tightshifting is very easy aswell the clutch is a lot higher than my talon though. my dad's friend had an 11 sec foxbody but sold it to a kid who crashed it within a few months i think. all he put in it was a semi built-350 and a decent shot of nitrous exhaust etc.
240sxDann
01-07-2009, 10:57 AM
he put a chevy motor in it? A regular 350 of all things? Thats retarded lol
Elliott18t
01-07-2009, 11:24 AM
chevy blocks in a mustang FTL, what a sin.
240sxDann
01-07-2009, 06:22 PM
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he meant 351...
OMGz Turbo
01-07-2009, 06:42 PM
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he meant 351...
btw since you have such a great memory you get first ride once it gets retuned for more boost
240sxDann
01-07-2009, 07:46 PM
WOOT! I win!
ericnjttz
01-07-2009, 07:55 PM
if youre looking for a built fox body at a ridiculous price PM me my dad is selling his
blewby u
01-08-2009, 03:37 PM
he put a chevy motor in it? A regular 350 of all things? Thats retarded lol
nah, that's the first thing i'd do if i got my hands ona foxbody. it seems pretty common
Elliott18t
01-08-2009, 03:41 PM
a 351W would be better imo
240sxDann
01-08-2009, 03:41 PM
an LSx motor, sure. An older style cast iron 350? Retarded.
HickRocket1258
01-08-2009, 03:45 PM
an LSx motor, sure. An older style cast iron 350? Retarded.
I agree Dan. The older 350s were nothing but junk. I think rated not even to 200 at the crank. They were the worst motors. I got a 350 in my camaro and well that thing is just plain out slow haha.
OMGz Turbo
01-09-2009, 03:42 PM
I agree Dan. The older 350s were nothing but junk. I think rated not even to 200 at the crank. They were the worst motors. I got a 350 in my camaro and well that thing is just plain out slow haha.
Ha, I had a bbc in my stang for last race season...Took it out due to how heavy the damn thing was, it made my full race suspension look preloaded all the time.
240sxDann
01-09-2009, 03:46 PM
BBC > old 350
HickRocket1258
01-09-2009, 07:05 PM
Ha, I had a bbc in my stang for last race season...Took it out due to how heavy the damn thing was, it made my full race suspension look preloaded all the time.
BBC is the way to go though. My dad's '69 camaro race car has a crate zz572 straight from a GM dealership with warranty on it still after having it for about a year or so. Just hopefully they don't realize what we do with it if something breaks haha. But anyways not all BBC's are bad.
87fierogt
01-09-2009, 07:20 PM
i disagree with anyone who says old 350s are junk try building any other motor and look at the bang for the buck and with all the used stuff fromt the 60s till now. dont forget other small block chevys 302s and 327s(down right nasty when built right) even 305s can be built cheaply. ask any one whos worked on cars from the time they came out untill now to build you a nasty 350 youll see this. its all about the parts used. also name me a bad bbc. they are torqe masters
HickRocket1258
01-09-2009, 07:34 PM
i disagree with anyone who says old 350s are junk try building any other motor and look at the bang for the buck and with all the used stuff fromt the 60s till now. dont forget other small block chevys 302s and 327s(down right nasty when built right) even 305s can be built cheaply. ask any one whos worked on cars from the time they came out untill now to build you a nasty 350 youll see this. its all about the parts used. also name me a bad bbc. they are torqe masters
No one said bbcs were bad. OMG was just saying it wasn't working for his car with his suspension setup. And please don't tell me that somebody would waste their time building a 305. They are down right one of the worst motors they built. Had one in my first car which was a camaro with 305. They are pigs and hit about 120 to the wheels. Not even worth it when doing heads or anything else. Scrap motors they are. And I know 350s are junk. I do have one in my current camaro and well that isn't a slouch.
87fierogt
01-09-2009, 07:40 PM
ive seen pics of the camaro i love it. and i gotta dig up the artical some dude built a 305 for 3500 useing used stuff put down 445
BlkWhtTSI
01-09-2009, 07:42 PM
chevy blocks in a mustang FTL, what a sin.
351 windsor sorry my fault
Scapegoat
01-09-2009, 08:14 PM
yes... 350's are junk... which is why they're used in so many street applications... :roll:
want to talk about junk? how about stock 5.0 in the 80's putting out 125hp?
just like the 350, they need a little extra to get up and go.
the old 350's were rated at 290hp and 350ftlbs/tq
The Captain
01-09-2009, 08:22 PM
"old 350's"? That's very general.
350s have ratings from 165hp - 370hp
87fierogt
01-09-2009, 08:23 PM
ill agree with every word you just said. the v6 5 speed in the light fiero(140hp) pulls harder then a 5.0 with an auto. id stick a 350 in a stang because what other motor can you dump 2k into and come out with used heads,cam,intake,carb,headers
the captin beat me i agreed with scape
Scapegoat
01-09-2009, 08:23 PM
old being late 60's... before smog restrictions killing them
240sxDann
01-09-2009, 08:49 PM
When I say old, I'm talking like 80's 350's. They were terrible! By the way, the 5.0's put down about 200whp and around 260-270ft. lbs. Mine put down 192/262 basically stock.
HickRocket1258
01-09-2009, 09:13 PM
When I say old, I'm talking like 80's 350's. They were terrible! By the way, the 5.0's put down about 200whp and around 260-270ft. lbs. Mine put down 192/262 basically stock.
Yes Dan, 80s 350s in camaros were junk even with TPI. Could only get a mid 15 out of it. Basically unless you are boring it, heads, cams, which is what I have done with my motor, then forget it unless you are looking for a motor that you can cruise around with.
OMGz Turbo
01-10-2009, 01:34 PM
No one said bbcs were bad. OMG was just saying it wasn't working for his car with his suspension setup. And please don't tell me that somebody would waste their time building a 305. They are down right one of the worst motors they built. Had one in my first car which was a camaro with 305. They are pigs and hit about 120 to the wheels. Not even worth it when doing heads or anything else. Scrap motors they are. And I know 350s are junk. I do have one in my current camaro and well that isn't a slouch.
hey rob i think you would like my new setup. 331CI w/ vortech T-trim haha. Can we swap it into the maro to make it feel like it has a set??
240sxDann
01-10-2009, 02:02 PM
nice, a guy I work with has a nitrous 331, and I believe he's making like 600 something on the spray.
OMGz Turbo
01-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Oh its easy if you know what your doing. Ive been doing my own tuning for 2+/- years on this car and i can literally feel the difference when i change minor things around. Its gonna be tuned for meth/nitrous early spring so imagine what ill be pushing out then
My car is legendary on the streets...Even more for the wawawawawa...hahahaha
V1 FTMFW
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/prod_imgs/img-4-0-xlarge.jpg
HickRocket1258
01-10-2009, 02:29 PM
OMG I gotta see this sexy sounding beast haha. And sure we can put that small block in the camaro bwahahaha.
240sxDann
01-10-2009, 04:54 PM
so when do I get my ride dood?!
Eclipse GSX 61
01-11-2009, 02:18 PM
Lets see:
-Slow
-Large
-Ugly
-Domestic
-F.O.R.D.
-A waste of life
240sxDann
01-11-2009, 04:48 PM
Lets see:
-Slow
-Large
-Ugly
-Domestic
-F.O.R.D.
-A waste of life
Well, I see we have an open minded gent right here. :roll:
Elliott18t
01-11-2009, 04:53 PM
Lets see:
-Slow
-Large
-Ugly
-Domestic
-F.O.R.D.
-A waste of life
LOL @ this post
OMGz Turbo
01-11-2009, 08:05 PM
Lets see:
-Slow
-Large
-Ugly
-Domestic
-F.O.R.D.
-A waste of life
Lets see
-Slow
-Plastic
-Ugly
-Import
-D.S.M
-Waste of parts.
Eclipse GSX 61
01-12-2009, 01:24 AM
Lets see
-Slow
-Plastic
-Ugly
-Import
-D.S.M
-Waste of parts.
You drive a Neon with a turbo?:o
Shoolig
01-12-2009, 01:30 AM
You drive a Neon with a turbo?:o
Listen to you! Haha
Fox bodies with the 5.0 aren't the fastest cars around although, like any car, they have potential and can be 10-11 second drag cars for reasonable cost. I couldn't tell you exactly how much it would take, but, I know a kid in my high school who was able to put a pretty quick one together for under 5,000- including the car.
omgzturbo - Sell me your car! ...
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For cheap! :-p
Eclipse GSX 61
01-12-2009, 01:51 AM
Listen to you! Haha
Fox bodies with the 5.0 aren't the fastest cars around although, like any car, they have potential and can be 10-11 second drag cars for reasonable cost. I couldn't tell you exactly how much it would take, but, I know a kid in my high school who was able to put a pretty quick one together for under 5,000- including the car.
omgzturbo - Sell me your car! ...
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For cheap! :-p
Haha I never said my car was above or better than an fox body Stang I'm just giving my opinion because a lot of local guys give me a bad taste about them because they all thing they are god's little gift to earth. They are so ugly its unbelievable, and they could at least be like 95% of America and own a 95-99 body style?:)
And I'm not hatin on the SRT4 Neon because they are fun to drive, but they are so cheapily made and just about all of their owners are complete tools when you run into them on the street.
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