Thinking of getting a Camera

[Stillen GLE]

what's up thinking of getting a really Nice Camara, I was thinking the Nikon D90 but its like a $1300 Camara, I want to take those nice ass SLR image's they're pretty sweet, maybe i could make a business out of it, you never know right, maybe someone could teach me a thing or two also. but well, what are your opinion's I am looking at the D60 as well, i heard Canon has pretty good camara's as well but, I just dont know, Maybe ill ask for a nice camara for christmas.

[jspek]

do you care about using manual focus for certain lenses? hi iso quality? what are you gonna be using it for mainly?

[Stillen GLE]

Just taking pics of random ****, some of my car every now and then.

[i like rice]

Unless you're willing to put in some time to learn about photography, you're better off with a good point and shoot (ie Canon G10). Photography can get expensive once you add in the costs of lenses and other various accessories.

[Stillen GLE]

Yea well, i want a decent camara actually a better then decent one, I like the SLR pics you guy's take on here. is there any photography forums. anyone knows of that are good.

[Stillen GLE]

so your saying this is a good camara,

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=144&modelid=17624#ModelDetailAct

[FazdaGt]

camera.

[Stillen GLE]

lol need to use spell check next time lol.

[Stillen GLE]

I just joined a photography forum so I ll see what i get out of that lol.

[i like rice]

so your saying this is a good camara,

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=144&modelid=17624#ModelDetailAct

Yep. It's more than capable of great images without requiring much prior knowledge on photography settings. If you learn a thing or two, it can take better images than an idiot with an SLR.

[Stillen GLE]

True, I was on a Canon forum and someone had taken pics with the G10 and i wasnt really all that impressed with the Image's

[97TurboDSM]

can you please spell CamEra right before you try taking pictures. i have a camera for sale that wont break the bank if you're interested.

[CleanNeon98]

Unless you're willing to put in some time to learn about photography, you're better off with a good point and shoot (ie Canon G10). Photography can get expensive once you add in the costs of lenses and other various accessories.
^^Speaks the truth, and I didn't believe him 100% when I got into it. I bought my cam and kit lens for 520 shipped used and was happy...that was in May, since then I've dropped probbably dropped another....1000 or so on equiptment and there will be more in the spring. P&S is your best bet, its quick, simple, and usually cheaper.

[97TurboDSM]

sounds like hes thinking about getting pretty serious with it and buying an upper tier point and shoot will just be a waste of money IMO. get a simple dslr(like the one i have for sale) and then go from there

[CleanNeon98]

StillenGLE, if you go to the moorestown NJ meets, I will be there not this Tuesday but the one coming after. I can let you play around with my 30D and you can get a feel of what its like working with an SLR. Also, Ciotti will have his XTi (or maybe at that point XSi) out and you can probbably talk to him for advice.

[i like rice]

sounds like hes thinking about getting pretty serious with it and buying an upper tier point and shoot will just be a waste of money IMO. get a simple dslr(like the one i have for sale) and then go from there

Just taking pics of random ****, some of my car every now and then.


That doesn't sound too serious to me to drop some coin on an SLR

[97TurboDSM]

what's up thinking of getting a really Nice Camara, I was thinking the Nikon D90 but its like a $1300 Camara, I want to take those nice ass SLR image's they're pretty sweet, maybe i could make a business out of it, you never know right, maybe someone could teach me a thing or two also. but well, what are your opinion's I am looking at the D60 as well, i heard Canon has pretty good camara's as well but, I just dont know, Maybe ill ask for a nice camara for christmas.

does to me

[CleanNeon98]

Taking "pix of random ****" and making a business out of photography are 2 very different things and its going to take you a while to learn...

[vwcorradokid]

I agree with I like rice. buy a decent P&S and see how you do with that. All a camera is, is a lightproof box. What you do with it is what determines whether the photo taken is good or not. I have a lot more camera gear than jspek, yet I still think he's a better photographer. Cameras don't take pictures, people do.

[peteyturbo]

Unless you're willing to put in some time to learn about photography, you're better off with a good point and shoot (ie Canon G10). Photography can get expensive once you add in the costs of lenses and other various accessories.


+1 I have the cannon G7 which is very similar to the current G10..It has most of the manual adjustments you get with an slr if you want to try stuff out for yourself..I have learned quite a bit with mine and I think I am ready for a good slr next time around but I will still miss it..The only gripe I have is that the high iso setting do not work so well..It takes awesome pictures though..Manual adjustments are not quite as easy to mess with once you get going due to lack of buttons, ect. but for the most part it is all there. Plus you can buy different lenses ect.
Heres some pics I took using a G7 with no tripod that I thought came out pretty damn good..
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/awd4dr/hawaii/NorthShoreHawaii118.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/awd4dr/hawaii/hawaii5thday002.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/awd4dr/hawaii/NorthShoreHawaii202edited.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/awd4dr/hawaii/NorthShoreHawaii234.jpg

[!Funny]

i would buy a used d40/d50/rebel xt for as cheap as you can get it. and take as many pictures as you want. if you don't get bored of it, and actually enjoy it, then pursue. otherwise, there is no sense in spending a lot of money on a camEra.

and i honestly think what vwcorradokid said is one of the best quotes, it is completely true, all the gear in the world can't change the photographers eye for a shot.

so buy a P&S or a really cheap dslr or just a film slr, and take some shots. . . take a course at a community college to learn basics, and see if it is fun for you. .

[jspek]

if only i had tims equipment I COULD RULE THE WORLD!!! haha. thanks but im just as good as anyone else on here.

stillen if you realllly want to get into this hobby, it will get expensive, fast. since i bought my d50 2.5 years ago ive dropped a total of 3-4 grand on equipment. and thats mostly on lenses. you cant just go buy a camera and take awesome shots right away. and learning photoshop is another catch. the g10 is more than capable of taking awesome shots, if the person knows what they are doing.

[TROLL]

it has been mentioned in this thread, but just to restate:

good cameras dont make for good photos... good photographers do.

[OPZ]

Ok I'm not really into that photography and stuff, but to defend him a little, so what if he wants to just take a bunch of pics randomly of his "car and stuff"?

We all started some where, right? It takes time to develop an eye.

Every time one of my friends is around with their d40 I grab it and start playing, and I'm always toying with the D90 before work. I agree with if he really wants a dslr, then get a d40 or the Rebel xt and go from there.

[TROLL]

But a SLR is is a huge waste unless the owner will put forth the time and effort to learn how to take advantage of it, which doesn't happen overnight. Taking a class would be an amazing help and I fully support it, or at the very least get a book or do a lot of reading online to understand shutter speed, aperture, depth of field, iso, white balance, and quite a few other things, and how they all work together to create an image.

This isnt for most people, which is fine, but in this case you would do much better with a quality point and shoot camera which are really pretty damn impressive these days. 8 time out of 10 a good point and shoot can take the same photo that a SLR can... and the camera will do all the thinking for you, and do it in a compact and less expensive package.

I dont think anyone here is saying that he absolutely shouldnt get a SLR, but rather that there are some point and shoots out there which are pretty damn impressive and it may be a better option, depending on his level of commitment.

[i like rice]

does to me

Zero skill, zero experience, zero gear. Seems a bit ambitious to already have the mindset of making money. It's fine to have goals, but it's better to have realistic goals in small steps.

[Stillen GLE]

Clean Neon, I havent gone to the Moorestown Meet's in a while, I may go next week, Ill post over there and let you know, I realize that this can get expensive so can alot of thing's I just have to find the time to do it, no one ever said I had to be a Professional right away, None of you know me so dont judge me. It alway's seem's when I have an idea you guy's are the first to shoot me down, its not like I am spending money out of your pocket's

[TROLL]

If you think anyone is judging you then you're not understanding the responses here. We're trying to disspell the common myth that expensive camera = good photos. They've got almost nothing to do with one another. Many many people have SLRs that they leave in Auto or Program mode all the time, and if thats the case it functions EXACTLY like a P+S would, it just costs a lot more and weighs a lot more.
There are also plenty of good P+S cameras which will have BETTER image quality than a lower end SLR with a low end lens on it.

[!Funny]

don't get hostile. we are helping you out.

if your heart is really in it and you actually think its something you want to do, then it doesn't matter what any of us think.

a class at a community college is probably $250 dollars. it will be once a week most likely and will teach you so much more than you realize.

buy a cheap used dslr or a p&s and have fun.

[TROLL]

Yeah if you're interested in learning manual exposure and are willing to make a commitment to take a class and take the time to practice and learn it, then go for it... and if thats the case then I would recommend an SLR. If you're not willing to go that far though, I would not recommend an SLR.
A class at a community college is a great idea, and well worth the price.

[i like rice]

It alway's seem's when I have an idea you guy's are the first to shoot me down, its not like I am spending money out of your pocket's
There are a handful of people on this forum that make some decent money out of our photography (weddings, magazines, etc), so we're giving you advice from our own experience. I've seen thousands come and go, wasting their money by not listening to sound advice.

If you're positive that this is something you're going to invest a lot of time and money, jump into an SLR. If not, go with a high end P&S.

[Loserkidwac]

I was kind of in the same boat you were in...I wanted to get into photography and wanted to upgrade to a DSLR...if you have a small budget I think the D40 is perfect for what you want it is great camera...def grab one used since if you do stick with it and get better you will probably want to upgrade but at the same time the D40 is a great camera for the price...the canon's which are similar are also nice I played with an XTi and a XSi and both have some cool features but I liked Nikons better...I decided to get a Nikon D80 fr various reason including my budget but I also hope that it won't need to upgrade for a long time since the D80 seems to be a pretty solid camera...anyways as everyone told me, go to a camera store and ask to mess around with a few of the cameras and talk to the people there...see which one fits you...good luck

[TROLL]

I didnt like that the D40 requires AF-S lenses, and I believe the functionality of it is limiting in some other ways as well? I'm not sure though, I'm not too well read up on it.
Other options include D50, D60, D80... I'd think about them all. Also from Canon the Rebel line... any of them. I'd go to a pro camera shop around you and talk to someone there, ask to check out a bunch and you'll have a better idea after that. Hopefully they'll be helpful and not just try to sell you what they want to sell you.
If there's no place near you then Allen's in Levittown, PA has been good for me, and they have used gear as well (although not always a huge savings).

[Stillen GLE]

Well I am looking at the D80, its a 10.2 MP. not to bad

[Loserkidwac]

The D60 is pretty much the D40x and both are limited on lenses like the D40...which is the main reason I didn't opt for any of those...

[Loserkidwac]

Well I am looking at the D80, its a 10.2 MP. not to bad

Don't look at MP as a deciding factor...there are a lot more more important things then that...the D40 at 6mp takes great pictures...the only issue I had found with the D80 is the metering isn't that great and it can tend to over expose pictures...but it is fairly easy to make a few adjustment and you are good to go, it wasn't enough of a problem to make me not purchase one!

[TROLL]

Yeah the whole megapixel race is a marketing ploy... there is a lot more that goes into choosing a good camera. Anything that Nikon or Canon currently offer is totally solid and will do you well, but go check them out in person like I said.
Keep in mind that the camera body is only half the expense (or less than half). I would try to get a decent lens for it, not the cheap kit lens. You'll also need a filter for the camera, a camera bag, and a handful of accessories for it just to keep it clean. You'll also need at least one memory card, a card reader, and an editing program on your computer.

[Stillen GLE]

Yea well my boy has the Nikon D80 that's why I mentioned it, I was orignally looking at the D90 and D300 but I though to myself that's a little to much money to spend on a Camera at this point.

[jspek]

dont forget a sturdy tripod too.

[Stillen GLE]

yea i know, I might want to get a fish eye tripod, I see its 3 pics per frame. I gotta look into this more.

[TROLL]

I'm selling my D200 right now if you're thinking about something like that, I dont know. $850 with the vertical grip and an extra battery. You'll still need a lens for it though so factor that in also.
And yeah you may want a tripod, depends on what you're shooting. Its not a necessary initial purchase though if you're just trying to pick up the essentials right now.

[Loserkidwac]

D80 is nice, Ritz has them for a decent price too http://www.ritzcamera.com/product/541530127.htm?bct=t1134 go to a store and play around with one and see if there are any lenses you like too

[Stillen GLE]

yea I am not getting every little thing right now, I want to get the camera to get use to for now then ill go from there. And to the people that said I should take classe's I am not gonna be that big into that I would take class's beside's I am trying to avoid a Community College I want to go down south or up to Penn State hopefully when I am done doing the Extra education work I am doing since I graduated already from high school. hopefully ill be at the college i want. I am not getting that far ahead of myself right now, gotta take a inch at a time, sometimes you have to take a step back in order to take a step forward.

[Stillen GLE]

D80 is nice, Ritz has them for a decent price too http://www.ritzcamera.com/product/541530127.htm?bct=t1134 go to a store and play around with one and see if there are any lenses you like too

Yea Circuit City has it to. I am gonna go to the Mall one day and visit the Camera store. or I may go to Circuit City, well see.

[TROLL]

Pro Camera Shop... find one and go to it. Unless you want to talk to someone who doesnt have a clue about anything that they're talking about which is what you'll find in the Mall, Best Buy, Ritz Camera, or similar.

And as far as I'm concerned the SLR purchase is a package deal with some form of education on the camera, otherwise we're back to the p+s convo where I would be willing to bet that the SLR will result in WORSE photos than a p+s would. If not a class you need some sort of guidance, but a class would really be best. Even a once a week night class for 8 weeks or something...

[Stillen GLE]

I dont know, I actually have a Allen's Brochure right next to me, Ive been glancing through it. They have the D80 listed for 849.95 and the Tripod for 449.95 thats like 12-1300 bucks right there. I rather just get the Camera for the time being.

[TROLL]

There are roughly 8 billion tripod options out there ranging from $50 to $1500, but I thought we established that you're not tripod shopping right now.
Camera prices change over time, and Allen's will be competitive with any legitimate shop, or maybe beat them on price.

[Stillen GLE]

There are roughly 8 billion tripod options out there ranging from $50 to $1500, but I thought we established that you're not tripod shopping right now.
Camera prices change over time, and Allen's will be competitive with any legitimate shop, or maybe beat them on price.

I know, But I was justing quoting on the price they listed.

[CleanNeon98]

Just a few things I read

Anything over 8 megapixels will mean virtually nothing unless you want to print large prints.
FPS mean virtually nothing if you never use it (sports, birds, motorsports, etc.)...if you just shoot pre-set things in pre-set environments it makes no difference...ive never had to use burst fire on either of my cameras.

You have to get a camera that is suited for what you want to do, if you just want to take pictures of stuff, a point and shoot is probbably your best bet, its all been said here. I would really listen to funny!, i like rice, troll, jspek, vwcorradokid, and most others that have put their solid advice here. They have been doing this for years, in fact most have probbably been shooting since before me and you knew how to shoot with a P&S. If you want to check out my 30D you are welcome to do so, fire off some shots, and ill show you the basics, but I'll say what others have, at the point where you are NOW, its not going to matter much if you get a P&S or a top-of-the-line DSLR, the DSLR might just be more confusing for you. Sure its a long-term investment so you won't have to upgrade equiptment time and time again, but I found it better to work at a slow pace and learn rather than jump in to deep water immediately.

[Stillen GLE]

Just a few things I read

Anything over 8 megapixels will mean virtually nothing unless you want to print large prints
FPS mean virtually nothing if you never use it

You have to get a camera that is suited for what you want to do, if you just want to take pictures of stuff, a point and shoot is probbably your best bet, its all been said here. I would really listen to funny!, i like rice, troll, jspek, vwcorradokid, and most others that have put their solid advice here. They have been doing this for years, in fact most have probbably been shooting since before me and you knew how to shoot with a P&S. If you want to check out my 30D you are welcome to do so, fire off some shots, and ill show you the basics, but I'll say what others have, at the point where you are NOW, its not going to matter much if you get a P&S or a top-of-the-line DSLR, the DSLR might just be more confusing for you. Sure its a long-term investment so you won't have to upgrade equiptment time and time again, but I found it better to work at a slow pace and learn rather than jump in to deep water immediately.

I realize what you are saying, But like I said its just for ****'s and giggle's at this point, I said I may start a business with it, that's not a definite, its a maybe, maybe I ll get big into it maybe i wont, I just want a decent camera at this point. I hate these stupid $100 digital camera's that look like the picture's came from a disposable camera or a Filmed Camera. My brother just bought a Nikon CoolPix S550 some digital camera, he got a deal on it because he work's at staple's Ive looked online their and they only have the D40 and D60 I believe. If anything Ill just wait til christmas to get this. I am not sure If ill be coming out to the Moorestown Meet anytime soon.

[CleanNeon98]

I realize what you are saying, But like I said its just for ****'s and giggle's at this point, I said I may start a business with it, that's not a definite, its a maybe, maybe I ll get big into it maybe i wont, I just want a decent camera at this point. I hate these stupid $100 digital camera's that look like the picture's came from a disposable camera or a Filmed Camera. My brother just bought a Nikon CoolPix S550 some digital camera, he got a deal on it because he work's at staple's Ive looked online their and they only have the D40 and D60 I believe. If anything Ill just wait til christmas to get this. I am not sure If ill be coming out to the Moorestown Meet anytime soon.
Well realistically, youll need at LEAST a year experience to start any kind of business with photography, and that means taking classes, reading, and spending time consistently on shooting and learning. If you want to just take pictures for now, buy a nice Point and Shoot camera, because if you get an SLR, you won't be able to take "nice" pictures for a little while until you learn everything, and its quite a bit to learn. A good point and shoot will give you nice crisp pictures, good features, at a generally lower price compared to SLR and it will be more user-friendly so you won't get tangled up in the manual modes...trust me, it is very frustrating to take shot after shot and see that it came out different from how you wanted, I think after almost 9 months I am just getting out of that territory barely.

Don't forget post-processing, which is a whole other field and I find it harder than taking the picture itself (but I need to learn it more)

My advice
Buy a nice Point and Shoot (like the Canon g10? that i like rice suggested)
Shoot with it and enjoy your pictures
Play with the manual modes here and there, learn stuff, and THEN move to an SLR if you want to progress with it as a hobby.

There are still times that I am glad to have my old 5 megapixel Kodak point and shoot, because despite having a half decent ammount of knowledge about photography sometimes I just don't want to mess with using a large bulky camera even in full-auto mode or manual settings for that matter.

[Stillen GLE]

Well realistically, youll need at LEAST a year experience to start any kind of business with photography, and that means taking classes, reading, and spending time consistently on shooting and learning. If you want to just take pictures for now, buy a nice Point and Shoot camera, because if you get an SLR, you won't be able to take "nice" pictures for a little while until you learn everything, and its quite a bit to learn. A good point and shoot will give you nice crisp pictures, good features, at a generally lower price compared to SLR and it will be more user-friendly so you won't get tangled up in the manual modes...trust me, it is very frustrating to take shot after shot and see that it came out different from how you wanted, I think after almost 9 months I am just getting out of that territory barely.

Don't forget post-processing, which is a whole other field and I find it harder than taking the picture itself (but I need to learn it more)

My advice
Buy a nice Point and Shoot (like the Canon g10? that i like rice suggested)
Shoot with it and enjoy your pictures
Play with the manual modes here and there, learn stuff, and THEN move to an SLR if you want to progress with it as a hobby.

There are still times that I am glad to have my old 5 megapixel Kodak point and shoot, because despite having a half decent ammount of knowledge about photography sometimes I just don't want to mess with using a large bulky camera even in full-auto mode or manual settings for that matter.

is their any camera similar to the G10 that Nikon Make's?

[CleanNeon98]

is their any camera similar to the G10 that Nikon Make's?
Im not at all familiar with newer P&S Cameras, from Canon or Nikon, but i like rice is a great photog and I would not hesitate to follow his advice at all.

Check out www.dpreview.com
They have reviews for cameras and go over the features and have sample shots from each one.

[Stillen GLE]

Nikon has the D40 also. which is like $460.

[jspek]

this i believe is the equivalent to the g10...dont quote me on it...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08080702nikonp6000.asp

and i am not a fan of the d40/x/60. id die if i had to manual focus a lot of my lenses every time.

[Stillen GLE]

Thank's Yea Ive seen that one, So neither the Canon G10 or the Nikon Coolpix P6000 or SLR but these are surpose to make the picture's equivalent to an SLR image?

You Know What I think I should just delete or closed this thread and acted Like I never posted it.

[TROLL]

If you dont want to post here any more then dont... but now that a lot of very knowledgeable people have taken the time to try and help guide you, save you hundreds/thousands, and get you on the right track, I dont think any 'closing or deleting' is necessary, which you dont have the ability to do anyway. Even if you dont want to listen to all of this excellent advice, at least we can hope that our advice may help someone else in the future.
The time to decide whether a thread should exist or not is before you start it in the first place.

[97TurboDSM]

why are you getting so upset. everyone here is trying to help and you're acting like everyone is takin shots at you.

[Stillen GLE]

You know what, To many idea's pop into my head and it only take's a thing or two to talk me out of it. which basically what you guy's did by saying oh well this is this and that is that and it becomes expensive blah blah blah. I mean you guy's want me to buy all this **** for it for no reason maybe that's what you guy's like and what not but i have other taste's. you guy's make it sound like a have to spend a fortunate on a damn camera.

[97TurboDSM]

i didnt see where anyone was telling you to spend all kinds of money. the truth of the matter is, photography is an expensive hobby when it gets serious. every single person that posted in this thread was trying to save you money by telling you to get something entry level before jumping too far into it right away. if you keep attacking the people in here that are trying to help you, its gonna get ugly.

[Stillen GLE]

you know what just close the thread, end of discussion.

[TROLL]

wtf... we're telling you to just buy a simple point and shoot so you dont waste your money.

here's the deal... a lot of us know a lotttt more about this than you, and have yearssss of experience with photography, and buying gear, and making mistakes, and so on.
this isnt something any of us would rub in your face or bring up randomly, but you posted a thread asking for help.
we're here, taking our time, to try and help you. we're more than happy to do it, but if you're not going to listen to what we're saying and understand its coming from people with a lot of insight then we'll feel like we're wasting our time.
you're learning whats involved with photography... sorry that the truth is you cant get a complete high end slr package for $400, and that even if you did take the plunge your photos wont improve unless you take a class, but better for you to know now then once you've already begun spending money.

you've got a bad attitude dude... i dont understand it. ton of people trying to help and you get all defensive and mad? unappreciative doesn't even begin to describe it...

and no, i wont close the thread. you obviously didnt take anything away from it but i hope that the time we've taken here will be informative to someone down the line, so it wasnt a complete waste.

[97TurboDSM]

the **** is this guys deal.

[TROLL]

yup, definitely shouldnt have asked anyone anything, just gone and spent $800 or $1000 getting the basics, and then realized he doesn't even know where the on/off button is. and then realizing for himself that if he doesnt know what he's doing the photos will look like garbage just like they do with a cheap camera. that would have been better...

[97TurboDSM]

he's really starting to piss me off with all this bull****. to the OP, if you want to ignore everyones advice and waste your money on **** you dont need and dont know how to use, then be our guests. but dont come in here and tell us we dont know what the hell we're talking about.

[cszakolczai]

You know what, To many idea's pop into my head and it only take's a thing or two to talk me out of it. which basically what you guy's did by saying oh well this is this and that is that and it becomes expensive blah blah blah. I mean you guy's want me to buy all this **** for it for no reason maybe that's what you guy's like and what not but i have other taste's. you guy's make it sound like a have to spend a fortunate on a damn camera.

First off you don't have other taste's because you've never done photography so you wouldn't know what is involved.

Second your immature as hell, its almost funny reading this thread and seeing you react the way you did when some really great photographers and very knowledgeable people have chimed in.

and third, I may be completely off on this and have mixed you up with someone else, but aren't you still in HS? So where would you come up with the 1300 dollars for a D90? Thats something you should take into account.

[Stillen GLE]

First off you don't have other taste's because you've never done photography so you wouldn't know what is involved.

Second your immature as hell, its almost funny reading this thread and seeing you react the way you did when some really great photographers and very knowledgeable people have chimed in.

and third, I may be completely off on this and have mixed you up with someone else, but aren't you still in HS? So where would you come up with the 1300 dollars for a D90? Thats something you should take into account.

No I am not in HS, and why doe's it matter where I get money from that's not of your concern.

[cszakolczai]

you know what just close the thread, end of discussion.

Also I thought I would throw this in, I've seen you post in 2 or 3 threads, and everytime you have you've created mayhem in them.

[cszakolczai]

No I am not in HS, and why doe's it matter where I get money from that's not of your concern.

because thats a lot of money to drop on a camera when you don't know anything about photography. Think logically here, I know that may be difficult for you. But lets cut the crap and admit that 1300 bucks right off the bat to realize you may not even enjoy something is a little ridiculous. Start off small.

[jspek]

i think its time to make a faq section for these questions. im down to help make it.

[Stillen GLE]

i think its time to make a faq section for these questions. im down to help make it.

Sure, and you can use my name as a Thread Title.

[97TurboDSM]

what the **** does that even mean.

[Stillen GLE]

what the **** does that even mean.

How to explain something to an idiot.

since that's what you all assume.

[97TurboDSM]

i must have missed the posts in here that assumed you were an idiot. you asked questions and we gave you answers. if you dont like the answers you're getting, then stop asking questions.

[Stillen GLE]

One of you Guy's mention that i probably dont know where the power button is!.

[97TurboDSM]

that was after you completely shot down everyone's advice. we're not going to be nice to you and try to help you if you are an ass when we try to help.

[jspek]

in all honesty, i didnt know how to turn on a sony a100 today.

[Loserkidwac]

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm

Check this guys site out he has a lot of useful info and reviews of different gear

[TROLL]

Yeah he has lots of good info, and then some thats totally off the deep end. I like to read his stuff but I also like to cross reference elsewhere...

[jspek]

i lost a lil faith in him when he says one thing is better, but then later goes on to rave about the not so better stuff. still good reading.

[vwcorradokid]

Since you're not listening to any advice, I'll tell you what you want to hear.

If you're thinking about using a camera to start a business, even if it's just a very slight chance that you start one, I think you should buy a Nikon D3 and call it a day. Why waste the money on buying a D40/60/80/90 when in the end you're just going to want to upgrade...and while your at it, you're going to need lenses covering from super wide to telephoto, so the 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200 should cover you so the camera can take the photos for you.

[TurboV]

Lulz. This was an awesome 4.30am read!

Thanks ya'll!

[Stillen GLE]

Is the photogrpahy class's a creditied coarse!

[!Funny]

yes teh portogphray class's a cretided corse.


stop bull****ting and just listen to everyone. you're listening to professionals who make money to shoot.

. . . . . either buy something cheap like everyone said

or like vwcorradokid said, get a d3, get some fixed low aperture lenses, get one for every focal range, get some zooms, get a tripod, get a strobe setup, get triggers, get umbrellas, get soft boxes, get stands, get backdrops, get a studio, get an assistant, etc. and don't listen to a word anyone in here said, because we are all just trying to help you from our own experience.

be courteous, whether you buy a camera now or forget the whole schpeal. we all just saved you money.

[Stillen GLE]

yea, well Ill look into the Canon G10, maybe ill take a ride out to circuit city or best buy today and check it out.

[97TurboDSM]

yet again you're not listening. it was mentioned before to forget about CC, BB, etc and go to a Camera Shop where the employees will be able to give you helpful information.

[TROLL]

Lets just let it go... I'm more focused now on having this as a good resource for others in the future who may be interested in getting a camera...

[97TurboDSM]

i guess you're right. make it an FAQ sticky?

[Stillen GLE]

I am listening, someone mention that id look at the Canon G10, That doesnt mean I have to go to a Camera shop to do it, Troll You mention I should go to Allen's in PA. ill defintely look there as well.

[Stillen GLE]

So basically are saying, I ought to take a Photography Class, and Get a Non SLR Camera, for the time being correct. and I that i should go to a useful Camera shop to get the feel of a Camera and to learn more about it as I go along.

[CHR!S]

So basically are saying, I ought to take a Photography Class, and Get a Non SLR Camera, for the time being correct. and I that i should go to a useful Camera shop to get the feel of a Camera and to learn more about it as I go along.

if you're going to take a photography class. they will require you to have a camera, slr or non-slr, they dont care. i know that in my class theres a girl that has a point and shoot that takes better pictures than half of the people in the class with slr cameras (nikon & canon alike)

if you're close to a Community College, register for their introduction to digital photography course, or whatever the hell they call it. your teacher will then suggest what to get.

[Stillen GLE]

if you're going to take a photography class. they will require you to have a camera, slr or non-slr, they dont care. i know that in my class theres a girl that has a point and shoot that takes better pictures than half of the people in the class with slr cameras (nikon & canon alike)

if you're close to a Community College, register for their introduction to digital photography course, or whatever the hell they call it. your teacher will then suggest what to get.

Oh really, what kind of camera does she have?

[Stillen GLE]

I guess Now the only choice, I have is to look over the information you guy's gave me.

[97TurboDSM]

the reason we suggested a P&S is because they are generally easier to get used to/use than a dslr is. If you are going to be taking a class, an entry level dslr would be perfect because the professor and students will be able to help each other learn the uses of the camera. we were simply advising against buying a prosumer/professional camera before you are ready. the choice is yours and only yours to make, we're here to give you sound advice as having gone through all of this before.

[CHR!S]

Oh really, what kind of camera does she have?

i dont know, but thats not the point, just like 10 other people said. the camera doesnt matter, how many times does it need to be said

heres are pictures taken with a 4mp point-and-shoot camera
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2996082822_f43ba54b5c_o.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

and now with an 8mp slr
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/492645906_e1292f76b8_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/3065020185_4e79e543f5_b.jpg

and just for arguements sake, heres some with a 21mp camera
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2409/2365205790_775d16c183_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/2857264123_00dae00a57_o.jpg

[97TurboDSM]

ha the last two are LEAPS AND BOUNDS above the first three posted

[CleanNeon98]

Wow..this was...interesting haha

[CHR!S]

ha the last two are LEAPS AND BOUNDS above the first three posted

dont tell him that... haha

[97TurboDSM]

ha im just saying, theres really no comparison. the first three arent terrible, the last two are just much much better

[mustang08]

This post is a great area to leanr more about photography and stuff in that catorgory. I have a olympus sp-500uz which i guess is a good point and shoot camera but after using it i have found that i like photograpphy and never go to a car event with out it. My dad got the D80 a little while ago and i play with the thing all the time. After playing with his D80 i was thinking of getting something similar. I know nikon makes good ones but what else is out there i want to check out different brands to see which one is the best and maybe u guys can help with ur experience. It would be greatly appriciated for ur help

[97TurboDSM]

'round here we have a pretty even split between nikon/canon shooters. it really comes down to what you feel comfortable with. I shoot canon, i've also shot nikon and I couldn't be happier. just get out and try a few different things to see what you like.

[mustang08]

Ok thanks im probally gonna play around with my dads D80 and try to find a photography course since my school dosent have one which sucks and ill probally be out looking for one on my own

[Stillen GLE]

they're are really nice photo's none to less, maybe one day I could hook up with one of you' guy's and we can do camera comparsion and see which one i Like best that's P&S as you call it. there's alot of class's i like to take, including Firefighting in the future, thank's for the info keep it going.

[Stillen GLE]

This post is a great area to leanr more about photography and stuff in that catorgory. I have a olympus sp-500uz which i guess is a good point and shoot camera but after using it i have found that i like photograpphy and never go to a car event with out it. My dad got the D80 a little while ago and i play with the thing all the time. After playing with his D80 i was thinking of getting something similar. I know nikon makes good ones but what else is out there i want to check out different brands to see which one is the best and maybe u guys can help with ur experience. It would be greatly appriciated for ur help

alot of Guy's are recommending just a regular Digital camera, basically a P&S I like rice has, stated the Canon G10 is a pretty good starter camera.

[jspek]

to look at images from cameras check here
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/

its nice because it shows the great images from all cameras...most of the time.

[mustang08]

alot of Guy's are recommending just a regular Digital camera, basically a P&S I like rice has, stated the Canon G10 is a pretty good starter camera.


yes i have looked at the canon but im not looking at something like that my olympus already has mostly the same options as the canon. After using my dads D80 i am thinking of going more towards one like that i guess u can call it more professiotnal. My olympus is a good point and shoot camera but i want to move on but thanks for the help

[Stillen GLE]

to look at images from cameras check here
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/

its nice because it shows the great images from all cameras...most of the time.

Yea it even give's a graph on the camera's to

[97TurboDSM]

just for the record, I Like Rice DOES NOT use a point and shoot camera. He is a professional photographer with years of experience and thousands of dollars in camera equipment. im not sure if you're confusing what has been said but none of the people that have given you advice are shooting with a point and shoot camera

[Stillen GLE]

yes i have looked at the canon but im not looking at something like that my olympus already has mostly the same options as the canon. After using my dads D80 i am thinking of going more towards one like that i guess u can call it more professiotnal. My olympus is a good point and shoot camera but i want to move on but thanks for the help

Ive looked into the sameone your dad's has, they saying its not practical at this time. I just have to go to a camera store, and see some camera's for myself and see which one i like best.

[97TurboDSM]

yes i have looked at the canon but im not looking at something like that my olympus already has mostly the same options as the canon. After using my dads D80 i am thinking of going more towards one like that i guess u can call it more professiotnal. My olympus is a good point and shoot camera but i want to move on but thanks for the help

im not sure if you think Canon only makes point and shoot cameras but they and nikon are the top two competitors for professional and amateur photography gear.

[Stillen GLE]

just for the record, I Like Rice DOES NOT use a point and shoot camera. He is a professional photographer with years of experience and thousands of dollars in camera equipment. im not sure if you're confusing what has been said but none of the people that have given you advice are shooting with a point and shoot camera

yea but he recommend to me the G10 would be best. If i wanted to go the SLR route at this time, but after your post's and realizing the idea's your giving it wouldnt be logical at this time to get an SLR.

[mustang08]

to look at images from cameras check here
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/

its nice because it shows the great images from all cameras...most of the time.


wow great site thanks for showing it to me

[i like rice]

im not sure if you think Canon only makes point and shoot cameras but they and nikon are the top two competitors for professional and amateur photography gear.

Nikon P&S cameras, for the money, don't offer the same value as the Canon P&S. Nikon are fine for someone that will stay in auto mode, but the Canon image quality in auto and manual mode is superior to the Nikon counterparts.

[mustang08]

im not sure if you think Canon only makes point and shoot cameras but they and nikon are the top two competitors for professional and amateur photography gear.

Nah i know both nikon and canon make great professional cameras. When my dad was looking for his D80 he was looking at both companies. Im just trying to see what other people think of what else is out there since my dad can be one sided sometimes

[97TurboDSM]

ah thanks. i was speaking more towards their DSLR counterparts. stillen, if you're thinking of seriously getting into photography, getting a DSLR is not a bad idea. they can be had for pretty cheap nowadays. the only reason we said to consider a point and shoot is because in your first few posts you said you were looking at very high end cameras, and THOSE at this point would be overkill. an entry level DSLR on the other hand, would be fine.

[Stillen GLE]

ah thanks. i was speaking more towards their DSLR counterparts. stillen, if you're thinking of seriously getting into photography, getting a DSLR is not a bad idea. they can be had for pretty cheap nowadays. the only reason we said to consider a point and shoot is because in your first few posts you said you were looking at very high end cameras, and THOSE at this point would be overkill. an entry level DSLR on the other hand, would be fine.

yea well I overlook thing's sometime's what camera would you recommend as a starter, either DSLR or Non. ill take both into consideration.

[mustang08]

Ive looked into the sameone your dad's has, they saying its not practical at this time. I just have to go to a camera store, and see some camera's for myself and see which one i like best.

The reason the people in this forum are saying that is not pratical is that this is the begining of ur photo career my dad has had a olympous point and shoot for about 6 years and he was playing around with that before he moved on to the D80. He saw that he like to take pics from his point and shoot and went to move on to something bigger. And he has got me into the pic taking thing also and i am looking into moving on since i am also trying to find a photo class somewhere since my college dosent have it

[Stillen GLE]

The reason the people in this forum are saying that is not pratical is that this is the begining of ur photo career my dad has had a olympous point and shoot for about 6 years and he was playing around with that before he moved on to the D80. He saw that he like to take pics from his point and shoot and went to move on to something bigger. And he has got me into the pic taking thing also and i am looking into moving on since i am also trying to find a photo class somewhere since my college dosent have it

yea, My buddy has the same camera as your dad, Mercer has class's you should look into it, I will eventually.

[97TurboDSM]

Stillen. I would highly recommend a Canon Rebel XTi. They are very user friendly and a great beginner camera. As it happens, I have one for sale if you would be interested. I would favor the XTi over say the Nikon D40/x/60 because the canon is able to autofocus its lenses as the D40/x/etc. will only autofocus certain lenses.

[mustang08]

yeah im gonna look into mercer but right now with college and two jobs its kinda hard too. Well wait since i work at mercer as i lifeguard maybe i can get some kind of deal lol but first im gonna do research with books and interent to see what level class i should take and stuff

[Stillen GLE]

Stillen. I would highly recommend a Canon Rebel XTi. They are very user friendly and a great beginner camera. As it happens, I have one for sale if you would be interested. I would favor the XTi over say the Nikon D40/x/60 because the canon is able to autofocus its lenses as the D40/x/etc. will only autofocus certain lenses.

ok that's cool are tripod's available for these.

500 buck's aint maybe ill ask for it for christmas.

then later on If I am still doing it, Ill move on to a Better Camera, like a Nikon, theyll probably have something better out by then and the D90 probably wouldnt compare at that point. ill definetely take the camera into consideration.

[97TurboDSM]

something better like nikon? that makes no sense. however, my price for the camera/lens has fallen so keep it in mind.

[Stillen GLE]

something better like nikon? that makes no sense. however, my price for the camera/lens has fallen so keep it in mind.

lol, For now what ill probably do is buy like a 2-300 camera, play with it and take coarse's later More then luckily Ill be going to a Post Grad school, from there maybe when I have the time ill take picture's of random stuff and play with the setting's etc.

[mustang08]

something better like nikon? that makes no sense. however, my price for the camera/lens has fallen so keep it in mind.

haha i thought nikon and canon where like on a equal level lol but thanks for the help guys since im in a mustang club it will help once i get a more professional camera and learn alittle in classes so i can help take pictures for the club lol

[97TurboDSM]

lol, For now what ill probably do is buy like a 2-300 camera, play with it and take coarse's later More then luckily Ill be going to a Post Grad school, from there maybe when I have the time ill take picture's of random stuff and play with the setting's etc.

im sorry but i have no idea what that post says.

[Stillen GLE]

im sorry but i have no idea what that post says.

what do you mean, I am saying I am focused on bettering my education rather then playing with a camera, but would still have interest in buying a cheaper camera, til i could afford something better then the Canon you mention, But then there's always christmas around the corner that I could ask for it.

[97TurboDSM]

thats much better.

[mustang08]

i thought canon was a really good company byt the way stillen puts it it makes them look like there ok lol

[Stillen GLE]

i thought canon was a really good company byt the way stillen puts it it makes them look like there ok lol

no not neccessarily, I mean Sony is pretty good to.

[97TurboDSM]

what? Canon is arguably the best company on the market. I'll never shoot anything other than Canon and you'll find a load of other members on here that feel the same way.

[Stillen GLE]

Everyone is entitled to their own Opinion.

[mustang08]

what? Canon is arguably the best company on the market. I'll never shoot anything other than Canon and you'll find a load of other members on here that feel the same way.

I can belive that because all they make is cameras and stuff to go along with them which means they have alot of study in cameras i have always thought of canon and nikon being better then sony or something like that. Its like dell or apple where they just make computers. Well also apple makes ipods but still they were know for computers first lol

[Loserkidwac]

just to add to this sony makes the sensors in Nikon cameras...or at least a bunch of them ;) however I wouldn't buy a Sony SLR...

[CleanNeon98]

i thought canon was a really good company byt the way stillen puts it it makes them look like there ok lol
Well of course he IS the most experienced of us all so listen to him on that.

[Stillen GLE]

Well of course he IS the most experienced of us all so listen to him on that.

I never said that, dont put word's in my mouth everyone is entiled to their own opinion, I never said i had a problem with Canon's i took the Rebel Xti into consideration that 97Dsm mentioned.

[CleanNeon98]

I never said that, dont put word's in my mouth everyone is entiled to their own opinion, I never said i had a problem with Canon's i took the Rebel Xti into consideration that 97Dsm mentioned.
I just thought it was funny that the guy said "well if stillen says it it must be true" lol

[Stillen GLE]

I just thought it was funny that the guy said "well if stillen says it it must be true" lol

oh well, lets not go there, send me a Pm when your going to the Moorestown Meet on Tuesday, and ill try and make it up there, and you could show me the camera you mention also.

[mustang08]

nah i was joking i know canon is a great camera company im just wondering y stillen is saying it is ok

[Stillen GLE]

nah i was joking i know canon is a great camera company im just wondering y stillen is saying it is ok

Because I really havent played with Canon Product's before if any, I was never really favored to them. I always knew of Nikon being one of the best Camera company's around, Canon Just recently jumped higher in the game over the past few year's

[cszakolczai]

nah i was joking i know canon is a great camera company im just wondering y stillen is saying it is ok

because he has no idea what he is talking about. Canon is an awesome camera maker.

[cszakolczai]

Because I really havent played with Canon Product's before if any, I was never really favored to them. I always knew of Nikon being one of the best Camera company's around, Canon Just recently jumped higher in the game over the past few year's

Your making things up now... Shut up... just stop

[mustang08]

because he has no idea what he is talking about. Canon is an awesome camera maker.

yeah i know that them a nikon are the best out there thats y when i look at a new camera is gonna be one of them cause i know there the best

[mustang08]

Because I really havent played with Canon Product's before if any, I was never really favored to them. I always knew of Nikon being one of the best Camera company's around, Canon Just recently jumped higher in the game over the past few year's

dude look on the internet and u can see how great they are theres nothing better

[cszakolczai]

yeah i know that them a nikon are the best out there thats y when i look at a new camera is gonna be one of them cause i know there the best

Good, but if your dad has a D80, you may want to keep that in mind. That way for christmas gifts you could buy him a lens and you could use it on your camera as well, haha.

[Loserkidwac]

Because I really havent played with Canon Product's before if any, I was never really favored to them. I always knew of Nikon being one of the best Camera company's around, Canon Just recently jumped higher in the game over the past few year's

Do some more research that is not a true statement by any means....

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/nikon-vs-canon.htm

"Unlike 1980, in the 1990s Canon cameras evolved to be as professional as Nikon. They have competed neck and neck for the same customers ever since."

[mustang08]

Good, but if your dad has a D80, you may want to keep that in mind. That way for christmas gifts you could buy him a lens and you could use it on your camera as well, haha.


Yeah i know thats a good idea thanks for it haha Now i know how to buy him a gift that wokrs for both of us if i get a nikon haha

[i like rice]

I always knew of Nikon being one of the best Camera company's around, Nikon Just recently jumped higher in the game over the past few year's

Fixed.

Canon owns over 60% of the DSLR market.

[Stillen GLE]

either way like i said before, I am gonna get a camera and take random shot's of things and play with the setting's

[vwcorradokid]

Canon and Nikon have been competing for the top spot in the DSLR class of cameras. There are companies that make cameras that outperform them (Mamiya, Hasselblad, etc...), but they come along with a mortgage. I would LOVE to get my hands on a Hasselblad H3DII-50 to play with and see how big I can print the photos. Unfortunately, the H3DII is WAY out of my price range right now.

There are people who are brand biased, but in reality, each company offers their products that may outperform the other in certain aspects.

[Stillen GLE]

Canon and Nikon have been competing for the top spot in the DSLR class of cameras. There are companies that make cameras that outperform them (Mamiya, Hasselblad, etc...), but they come along with a mortgage. I would LOVE to get my hands on a Hasselblad H3DII-50 to play with and see how big I can print the photos. Unfortunately, the H3DII is WAY out of my price range right now.

There are people who are brand biased, but in reality, each company offers their products that may outperform the other in certain aspects.

when you mean mortgage, you talking like 50-100G a Camera.

[Stillen GLE]

That's something you'd get if you were real serious into photography, What kind of camera's do people use for like Modified Magazine, Superstreet,etc some of them use Canon and Nikon right, That's like my ultimate goal is to shoot photo's for them and like Nopi etc. basically big name people JTuned does a nice job with his Picture's, I believe his name is Eric

[CleanNeon98]

Not this again...

[Stillen GLE]

Not this again...

not what again, I was Just asking what Camera's they use, I am not gonna get that camera. I am gonna start off with Like a Canon G series

[CleanNeon98]

not what again, I was Just asking what Camera's they use, I am not gonna get that camera. I am gonna start off with Like a Canon G series
I just.....nevermind, do whatever you want.

[Stillen GLE]

I just.....nevermind, do whatever you want.

I dont get what your getting pist at. I though u were gonna let me try out your Canon camera or whatever it was.

[i like rice]

That's something you'd get if you were real serious into photography, What kind of camera's do people use for like Modified Magazine, Superstreet,etc some of them use Canon and Nikon right, That's like my ultimate goal is to shoot photo's for them and like Nopi etc. basically big name people JTuned does a nice job with his Picture's, I believe his name is Eric

Most are using prosumer and pro bodies, ie Canon 40D, 1Ds MKII, 1Ds MKIII, 1D MKIIn, 1D MKIII, Nikon D200, D300, D80, etc. A few still use the entry level bodies, though.

[Stillen GLE]

Most are using prosumer and pro bodies, ie Canon 40D, 1Ds MKII, 1Ds MKIII, 1D MKIIn, 1D MKIII, Nikon D200, D300, D80, etc. A few still use the entry level bodies, though.

That's what I kinda figured, that's way out of my league for now though. I need to go to a camera shop to find figure out what I like and more comfortable with.

[i like rice]

Used prosumer bodies are affordable, ie Canon 20D for about $380-400 or Canon 30D for $420-450 and more than capable. The prosumer bodies have larger viewfinders, 2nd wheel for quicker and easier adjustments, beefier bodies, and are larger so they're comfortable to hold, especially with heavier lenses.

[Stillen GLE]

Used prosumer bodies are affordable, ie Canon 20D for about $380-400 or Canon 30D for $420-450 and more than capable. The prosumer bodies have larger viewfinders, 2nd wheel for quicker and easier adjustments, beefier bodies, and are larger so they're comfortable to hold, especially with heavier lenses.

Maybe I should create a Poll and ask people what they vote for. Put a few camera's in it or just make it NONSLR or SLR, for first camera, and see what vote's i get, what do you recommend I get, I was recommend by TurboDSM the Canon Rebel Xti, and I think you mention'd the G10

[i like rice]

You have to decide what you want. If you want sharp images without spending $700-1000, a P&S will do fine. If you get an SLR, the kit lens will be slow and soft so don't expect too much as far as image quality. You'll have to spend ~ $300-400 for a decent wide angle zoom lens.

[Stillen GLE]

I am gonna start out with a P&S camera for sure, the only thing is which one to get!, because I know if i walk into a Camera shop, there gonna ask me what kind of photo shooting I will be doing.

[cszakolczai]

yeah you have to make up your mind about that first, then you have to figure out a budget

[Stillen GLE]

yeah you have to make up your mind about that first, then you have to figure out a budget

Right now If i went out and bought a camera id say I probably wouldnt spend more then 4-500 on a camera. but then I gotta figure other thing's with it to like a protective case etc.

[cszakolczai]

I mean you have to decide what you want to shoot.

[Stillen GLE]

I mean you have to decide what you want to shoot.

Oh for right now, Maybe Nice picture's of the sky or when it start's to get dark out, in other word's nature. then I ll move on to car's etc.

[TurboV]

My two cents on something mentioned like 5 pages ago...

I am sure it varies to school to school, but at my community college, you must have a SLR for the photography classes... it says in massive bold letters in the schedule "Must have a digital SLR camera for this class" for the digital photo classes, and same lines for the "normal" photo classes, but film of course.

So a point and shoot might not be appropriate, depending on your school and what they require. I think my school's point of this is that they want to teach how to use the camera along with how to take good pictures. So check syllabuses or whatever if you're wanting to buy a camera and take a photo class.

[Stillen GLE]

My two cents on something mentioned like 5 pages ago...

I am sure it varies to school to school, but at my community college, you must have a SLR for the photography classes... it says in massive bold letters in the schedule "Must have a digital SLR camera for this class" for the digital photo classes, and same lines for the "normal" photo classes, but film of course.

So a point and shoot might not be appropriate, depending on your school and what they require. I think my school's point of this is that they want to teach how to use the camera along with how to take good pictures. So check syllabuses or whatever if you're wanting to buy a camera and take a photo class.

Yea I am gonna consider it, but not til like next year, Ill hopeing to get into a Post Grad school, for some extra studying and better my grade's and take better class's so I can go to a 4 year college.

[97TurboDSM]

please explain what post grad school is.

[Stillen GLE]

please explain what post grad school is.

Its a school graduate high schooler's go to if they feel they didnt receive the proper class's or feel they aren't prepared enough to go to college, so they take extra class's to better themselves and SAT' or ACT score's they also have it for people that graduated college also.

[97TurboDSM]

I'm still confused. Grad School is what you do after you finish your Undergraduate Degree from a University. either way, if you're going to be taking a photography class at a community college then you should really consider a DSLR, like TurboV said

[Stillen GLE]

I'm still confused. Grad School is what you do after you finish your Undergraduate Degree from a University. either way, if you're going to be taking a photography class at a community college then you should really consider a DSLR, like TurboV said

Yes that is correct about the degree in a university, but then they have it for high schooler's i know a girl that's doing it she was good at sport's so a Private school recruited her, so she can go play sport's at a better college, instead of getting 4 year's in high school she get's a 5th because she was good, they also have it for academic's like for what I want to do, then they have athletics what she's doing,

I will do that If i have time, this school is up in CT.

[Stillen GLE]

But back to the camera, I am gonna look at some one of these day's if anyone want's to meet me at Allen's or something let me know.

[Stillen GLE]

anyone know of any photography forums.

[CleanNeon98]

anyone know of any photography forums.

http://photography-on-the.net

Canon forum.

[Stillen GLE]

ah good stuff. you on their as well cleanneon.

[CleanNeon98]

ah good stuff. you on their as well cleanneon.
I am on there as XTIguy215, and lots of others from tst are there as well...there are some Nikon users on that site as well.

If you really want to get into photography and you think its something you would enjoy, but something like 97turboDSM's XTi, or any other entry level DSLR for that matter. It will take you a little while and you might have crappy pictures for the first month or so but it could be worth it for you in the end.

[Stillen GLE]

I am on there as XTIguy215, and lots of others from tst are there as well...there are some Nikon users on that site as well.

If you really want to get into photography and you think its something you would enjoy, but something like 97turboDSM's XTi, or any other entry level DSLR for that matter. It will take you a little while and you might have crappy pictures for the first month or so but it could be worth it for you in the end.

yea i know, I am taking your guy's advice now.

[CleanNeon98]

yea i know, I am taking your guy's advice now.
If you get any kind of entry-level Canon DSLR, I can walk you through pretty much everything youll need to know to start shooting without getting angry, not that that should be an ultimate deciding factor for you because I am sure there are Nikon users that will do the same for you if you get something like a D60 or a D70 etc. You WILL have to read on your own though, and shoot a good bit, some things can be explained but are much easier remembered if you actually put them into practice.

[Stillen GLE]

Yea ill take it into consideration.

[Loserkidwac]

I've been learning Nikon lately since I just bought one so I could probably lend some help if you need for understanding setting them up and all...I honestly thing a D40 is the perfect camera for you, pick one up used and play around with it...that is if you decide to get an SLR over a P&S...or even a used D50 would be good!

[Stillen GLE]

I've been learning Nikon lately since I just bought one so I could probably lend some help if you need for understanding setting them up and all...I honestly thing a D40 is the perfect camera for you, pick one up used and play around with it...that is if you decide to get an SLR over a P&S...or even a used D50 would be good!

Nah I am sticking to a P&S. for now.