View Full Version : Anyone have any suggestions for tires??
CarbonIS
10-24-2005, 10:15 PM
This might be a repost if there happens to be a thread about this already but...
I need new tires and I was wondering what people think are good?
I'm looking for something with an decent looking trad, something with very good
wet traction and hydroplane resistance...
it doesn't have to necessarily be all season, just something that won't fall apart
if i have to drive around on salty roads in the winter
TROLL
10-24-2005, 10:17 PM
all seasons? summer tires? what size? what exactly do you want the tire to do... last long? grip well? be inexpensive? etc etc...
bryan
CarbonIS
10-24-2005, 10:18 PM
sorry troll i should have clarified that more...i'll make an edit
TROLL
10-24-2005, 10:21 PM
i'll come back to this in a little when i have more time, but so you know... summer tires are not to be used in the winter. their compound isnt made for extremely cold temperatures and they are downright dangerous on snow or ice. so if these are your year round tires, there are plenty of very good all season tires out there to choose from.
bryan
WhiteXFire
10-25-2005, 01:27 AM
So I have the same question/problem. I've been due for tires for 2 months now, and I really don't know what I want to get. If I didn't care about the winter at all, I think I'd be sold on the Michelin Pilot Sport PS/2's. They're slightly more than some of the other choices, but everything I've read and seen about them has been positive. Plus, if I hadn't listened to my dad and gotten the all-season tires on my car, it would have come with Pilot Sports.
The problem for me is the fact that I really want to try out a great summer tire, but I know I have to be able to get around during the winter months. Of course I try to avoid driving in the snow anyway, but on the off chance I have to go to work or drive from Baltimore to Philly and it starts snowing, I want to live. I haven't had any experience with a pure summer tire before, so I don't really know how extreme the issues are in snow/cold winter conditons. The car is garaged down here, but obviously it would still cold when I'm out driving.
so, I'd like to know what people suggest from experience as well.
TROLL
10-25-2005, 01:52 AM
there are only two categories of people who should ever own a summer tire:
1. those who have a set of winter tires
2. those who have a winter car
if you fall into one of those two categories, i recommend the BF Goodrich KDW2, Kuhmo MX, Falken Azeni, Bridgestone S-03... you can look at www.tirerack.com to see how they stack up against one another.
if you do not fall into one of those two categories then like i said above there are plenty of great all season tires out there... the Toyo Proxes 4 come to mind... and the same thing goes for checking ratings on tirerack.com ... it'll really give you a much better idea of whats out there.
bryan
WhiteXFire
10-25-2005, 02:17 AM
Hey, to clarify on what you asked in a previous post, I guess I'm looking for something that will last 2 years/20,000 miles (I probably won't have the car after that), have excellent traction in the summer/rain and still be driveable in some light snow/cold. I think Bill is basically looking for the same thing, but I'm sure he wants them to last longer. Does anyone have any experience with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires?
*Oh, and just so you know, I compared all the tires you listed with the PS/2's on tirerack, and they're rated higher in every category than all of them.
KrautFed20V
10-25-2005, 07:53 AM
i have falken ZE512's they seem to do very well in Rain and are very affordable, just my .02
TehWagon
10-25-2005, 10:11 AM
+1 for tirerack... they have awesome reviews- if they don't have a review, don't buy it. i heart my bf good rich g-force sports. excellent middle of the road summer tire yet still very sticky.
htheduck
10-25-2005, 10:12 AM
The problem for me is the fact that I really want to try out a great summer tire, but I know I have to be able to get around during the winter months. Of course I try to avoid driving in the snow anyway, but on the off chance I have to go to work or drive from Baltimore to Philly and it starts snowing, I want to live. I haven't had any experience with a pure summer tire before, so I don't really know how extreme the issues are in snow/cold winter conditons. The car is garaged down here, but obviously it would still cold when I'm out driving.
so, I'd like to know what people suggest from experience as well.
There is no such thing as a great summer tire that will perform in the snow or for any of your off chance scenarios. That off chance could cost you a tow with some time at the body shop.
It's either summer or all season/(or strictly snow) tires. Don't compromise on tires they are the only 4 things touching the ground on your car.
As for feedback, go with the writeups at TireRack.com Good luck.
2point4DSM
10-25-2005, 10:27 AM
+1
Sounds like you guys want all season tires. So get on tirerack.com, do a search for size, and at the bottom of the page you can choose performance categories.
Just keep in mind that the stickiest tires are not going to perform like winter tires.
Also keep in mind that wider tires are more likely to hydroplane and not handle well in the snow.
Ever see cars racing in the snow and notice that it seems they are running around with studded donut sized tires.
If you have AWD, then you could probably get away with getting tires that are a bit more sporty if you need this car all year round. On the other hand, RWD people really need to look towards the less sporty and more all-season variety... unless you like pushing your car around when it snows.
People that are serious about the performance of their RWD NEED a separate set of winter tires or another winter vehicle.
TehWagon
10-25-2005, 10:30 AM
Ever see cars racing in the snow and notice that it seems they are running around with studded donut sized tires.
hmmm good point! hadn't though of that!
SexyDSM95
10-25-2005, 10:46 AM
+1 for tirerack... they have awesome reviews- if they don't have a review, don't buy it. i heart my bf good rich g-force sports. excellent middle of the road summer tire yet still very sticky.
vulcantire.com > tirerack.com
Falkens are good but if you want a bit pricier Yoko's and Nitto's are also good to look at. I think Nitto may have a tire out now that automatically cambers?
Chair-Force
10-25-2005, 10:48 AM
Bridgestone Turanza LS-V
They last forever and great in rain/snow.
Normally they cost $500+ but i just got a set of four for $255 from a Firestone/Bridgestone store. They are half off for some reason.
2point4DSM
10-25-2005, 12:26 PM
Another thing I'm starting to notice is that the best tires for wet handling might not be the best for snow. The large V pattern thatis good at pushing water aside actually works against you in the snow because you want a tire to pick up snow not repel it. Apparently, unless you have studded tires, a thin layer of snow on your tires actually helps with traction.
Correct me if I'm wrong about this one....
2Mopars1Ford
10-25-2005, 02:29 PM
I had bfg kdws on my 95 mustang and they sucked big time.
The best tires I have had were either toyo's or the kuhmo ecstas I have on the back of my 02 now.
WhiteXFire
10-25-2005, 02:45 PM
I think we've both decided that we're sticking with all-season tires, especially since it's this time of year... :(
As for me, the problem is that my rear tires are so wide and low profile...255/35ZR19...that a lot of the tires being mentioned don't fit. The car came with a set of Continental All-Season tires, which I thought were decent when they were new, but I DEFINITELY don't want again. And if i do a search on tirerack for my car, the only other all-season that comes up is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. So, does anyone have any experience with these other than the reviews on tirerack (which are pretty good) before i spend $1000 on them. :mad:
Oh, and I'm not planning extensive driving in the snow, and I was able to get around fine going slow last winter on the tires I have now and winter mode on my trans.
Little G
10-25-2005, 04:09 PM
winter- Any kind of blizzaks
Casual driving- try potenza re92's for that kind of lexus...They are really good on luxury vehicles
Chair-Force
10-25-2005, 04:30 PM
Casual driving- try potenza re92's for that kind of lexus...They are really good on luxury vehicles
re92's? you're serious?
Little G
10-25-2005, 04:40 PM
re92's? you're serious?
Uhhhh, yeah i would know cause i've been working at a tire shop for 4 years now and i've put a lot of them on cars...I'm not saying their the best but they are pretty good.
Chair-Force
10-25-2005, 04:41 PM
Uhhhh, yeah i would know cause i've been working at a tire shop for 4 years now and i've put a lot of them on cars...I'm not saying their the best but they are pretty good.
I used to work at a tireshop also and still, RE92s are crap.
Little G
10-25-2005, 04:43 PM
ok sure..
Chair-Force
10-25-2005, 04:47 PM
ok sure..
Dont believe me? Ask any WRX owner.
They are crap.
Gorilla Unit 33
10-25-2005, 04:48 PM
wow fffffffffffff
Little G
10-25-2005, 04:49 PM
Why do they come on wrx's stock??
Little G
10-25-2005, 04:50 PM
they shouldn't be on awd's anyway
TehWagon
10-25-2005, 05:14 PM
as with most things, some people will have better experiences than others, esp on diff kinds of cars. i have heard that wrx's don't like the re92s much, but there's a lot of things we don't like about the stock car... which is why we've all got the mod bug :)
WhiteXFire
10-25-2005, 05:29 PM
So, yeah, any opinions on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S? :)
US_R33
10-25-2005, 06:30 PM
nittos that automatically camber??? when i saw that ad i fell out of my chair crying i was laughing so hard :rofl:
here's the run down basically (i'm kind of a tire fanatic (:-p)
Summer ONLY tires:
1) are designed to operate in ambient temperatures down to 50 degrees, anything below that and they essentially turn into rolled hoops of black plasitc. their compounds are not designed to withstand cool ambient temperatures
good summer tires (listed in order of stickyness)
Falken Azenis RT-615
Hankook Ventus RS-2
Nitto NT-01 (NOT FOR DAILY DRIVING, consider these DOT approved racing slicks, and no i don't mean drag racing)
BFGoodrich g-Force KD
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
Bridgestone S-O3 Pole Position
Falken ST-115
Yokohama AVS dB
Falken FK-451
Yokohama Advan Neova
Michelin Pilot Sport SP2
Michelin Pilot Sport
these are just some of the higher end sticky summer tires
my recommendation, stickiest tire on the market hands down is the Falken RT-615s, i've used then at open track events, in the rain, as well as autoxing and daily driven and by far they supercede any offering from any other manufacturer
Best overall tire that will be comfortable yet grip well in the dry as well as in the wet would be the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3, Falken FK 451 or ST-115, or the Yokohama AVS dB or Advan Neova
while I do not have much experience with all season tires (b/c if they get me home in one piece that's all i need them to do) I can tell you this much, I'm running the Falken Ziex ZE-512s this season and I ran them last season as well. In the dry they are more than respectable w/o any squirreliness at the limit (which is high for an all-season) and they got me home safely in the snow and do well in the rain too. For me to buy a tire a second season in a row means i have to love that tire (i'm very demanding of what i get out of my tires)
if you want/need a dedicated snow tire w/o a doubt Michelin Blizzacks OWN......me, i'll be rockin out with a set of 16" chains in my trunk for those times when my car doesn't agree with the weather :supz:
lastly, when reading reviews on tirerack be sure to take them with a grain of salt. driving aggressively on back roads to one person very well may be pus sy footing to another :wink:
don't forget to check out Tires.com (http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/home.do) i just got a set of 4 tires w/road hazard package (free replacement no matter what, except for abuse obviously) for under $350 to my door :banana: Free shipping baby oh yeah
Late,
Daniel
US_R33
10-25-2005, 06:31 PM
the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S are a good tire, but they are rather pricey, you may want to look into a less expensive offering from (Falken for example (:-p)
WhiteXFire
10-25-2005, 06:53 PM
Heh, too late, tirerack just stole all my money...
The problem I keep running into is sizing...someone find an all-season tire that comes in a 255/35R19 other than Michelin or Continental (which I don't want).
Chair-Force
10-25-2005, 07:11 PM
they shouldn't be on awd's anyway
Lay off the brake degreaser.
TehWagon
10-25-2005, 07:14 PM
^^^ Summer Donna.
TROLL
10-25-2005, 09:03 PM
with regards to RE-92s... if you didnt know they come on a few different Subarus including the WRX.
i think your average WRX owner has different needs than your average guy who walks into a tire shop and says 'hey i need new tires what do you recommend?'
they may be great all purpose tires, but the general concensus among subaru forums is that they are seriously lacking in the performance department.
bryan
Little G
10-25-2005, 09:22 PM
Well i don't ever recall anyone with a subaru ever complaining about the re92's but i also never put'em on a wrx, only outbacks and other subaru wagons(no offense to the wagons)...But anyway besides all this i never had problems with the 92's
2point4DSM
10-25-2005, 09:51 PM
One thing most people don't know is that some tires can be different from one size to another.
Also, WRX owners are strange people compared to the general public. They demand a lot more from their tires than all-season performance.
I had similar RE tires on my wife's Honda Civic SI (long gone) and I was very happy with them.
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