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LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 11:08 AM
Hey people this is LevittownMonster's brother MIKE.I own a blacked out 300zx TT. I love my car. But I have all ways loved Skylines and I think the time has come to get one. I have a couple questions and I will need help looking. One of my questions are that, can I have in PA with nothing wrong. I was told you can not have skylines in PA but I'm going to look more into that.

Any ways here is some Skylines that I was looking at.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/853230054.html But something with that $
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/cto/859617454.html


Some that i was looking to ship over.
USD 7,183 (including delivery to USA, Detroit port)
http://www.japan-partner.com/Auto/8370/Nissan/SKYLINE/car-for-sale.html

USD 8,853 (including delivery to USA, Detroit port)
http://www.japan-partner.com/Auto/6983/Nissan/SKYLINE/car-for-sale.html
But I do not know how much a swap for manual would be.

USD 3,753 (including delivery to USA, Detroit port)
http://www.japan-partner.com/Auto/6788/Nissan/SKYLINE+COUPE/car-for-sale.html
Agaiin like last one but I like the $ of this one.

Any way I am going to keep looking and hope that you guys help me.

namdoogwerdna
10-01-2008, 11:22 AM
It's going to be expensive. There are some that are here legally and I'm sure you can find one that is for sale easily but the legality of it is iffy. IMO you are better off building a 240 with a skyline conversion, but it's up to you. I'll let the experts hop in and let you know the logistics of getting it legally.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 11:23 AM
Simple. You cannot import any yourself anymore. You have to find one that has already been legalized.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 11:25 AM
And if it's not currently registered, it most likely is not legal.

05Accent
10-01-2008, 11:29 AM
why cant you tho?

Vince@R/TTuning
10-01-2008, 11:30 AM
http://www.osakaskylines.com/


think they are about 4 hours past the candian border. good prices and you can just put it on a trailer and bring it down....

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 11:44 AM
http://www.osakaskylines.com/


think they are about 4 hours past the candian border. good prices and you can just put it on a trailer and bring it down....

Thanks man gonna check it out.

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 11:48 AM
http://www.osakaskylines.com/


think they are about 4 hours past the candian border. good prices and you can just put it on a trailer and bring it down....

Ok, I called them and they said that is only for Candian people. people live over there.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 11:48 AM
why cant you tho?

Oh man, this is such a long story. It has to do with a company called Motorex whom submitted fraudulent paperwork to the government for legalization. To make a long story short, they will not legalize anymore that are brought to US shores. If you import one, it'll have to be either a show car or a track car. You won't be able to register it in any state. All the R32's, 33's, and 34's that are already here and legalized are grandfathered in.

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 11:50 AM
Oh man, this is such a long story. It has to do with a company called Motorex whom submitted fraudulent paperwork to the government for legalization. To make a long story short, they will not legalize anymore that are brought to US shores. If you import one, it'll have to be either a show car or a track car. You won't be able to register it in any state. All the R32's, 33's, and 34's that are already here and legalized are grandfathered in.

Can you legalize one as a kit car.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 11:51 AM
Can you legalize one as a kit car.

What do you mean by "kit car"? If you're going to go that route, just buy an S14 and put on a Skyline front end and have the tails molded in properly.


Why would you want a Skyline "kit car" anyway?

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 11:55 AM
What do you mean by "kit car"? If you're going to go that route, just buy an S14 and put on a Skyline front end and have the tails molded in properly.


Why would you want a Skyline "kit car" anyway?

No no no I am not going that route I was just asking.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 11:59 AM
Honestly bro, if you're truly looking for one...expect to pay a lot. There are obviously a limited number of these cars available in the US. So supply is low and demand is high. You're definately going to pay a hefty premium for a legalized skyline. That's just the bottom line. Well, WELL over $50K. Just a heads up.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:01 PM
Actually...here's a legalized R33 for $43,500 in FL.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1996-NISSAN-SKYLINE-GTR-100-D-O-T-LEGAL_W0QQitemZ200258257169QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truc ksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item200258257169&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1308&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:02 PM
All those other ones on eBay that people are selling for so much cheaper...they are not legalized. People are just trying to get rid of them because there's nothing they can do with them.

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:04 PM
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/cto/859617454.html
15,000

namdoogwerdna
10-01-2008, 12:05 PM
Not legal. Its probably not even a real car. It says nothing about being titled, registered, anything. You'd be buying a 15,000 paperweight.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:05 PM
^ Not legal. Hence the low price. Great, you spent $15K on a car that you can't register or insure. What's the point? To keep in your garage, show girls, hope they recognize it from a movie, and hope to get laid?

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:08 PM
Well I'm gonna get keep looking but if I do not find any thing I'm gonna be getting a FD

Vince@R/TTuning
10-01-2008, 12:09 PM
Ok, I called them and they said that is only for Candian people. people live over there.

Thats lame...who cares if you have the money and you buy it you should be able to do whatever you want with it. They used to sell to americans i know a few that came from there. Just go up there ...end every sentence with "heh" and they will never know...

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm not trying to be a downer dude, but trust me when I tell you, you are not going to find one anywhere near $15K that has already been legalized. Period. It doesn't matter how long you look. If you could buy a legalized Skyline for $15K, everyone would be driving one. Stick with the FD. I just don't want to you to get screwed.

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:13 PM
Thats lame...who cares if you have the money and you buy it you should be able to do whatever you want with it. They used to sell to americans i know a few that came from there. Just go up there ...end every sentence with "heh" and they will never know...
LOL. But thanks for the site any way

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm not trying to be a downer dude, but trust me when I tell you, you are not going to find one anywhere near $15K that has already been legalized. Period. It doesn't matter how long you look. If you could buy a legalized Skyline for $15K, everyone would be driving one. Stick with the FD. I just don't want to you to get screwed.

Ya I get what you mean man. Well I'm gonna still look for both but now reading what you. I am gonna be getting a FD.


Also can someone change the name two New car and Move it to right place

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:19 PM
Can I ship a Rx7 over with out any problems.

http://www.japan-partner.com/Auto/8646/Mazda/RX-7/car-for-sale.html

namdoogwerdna
10-01-2008, 12:25 PM
you still have to re-register everything in america, its not easy. save your money and buy a usdm FD and do a nice build. no need to have RHD. You'll pay thousands just to get it registered properly here.

The Captain
10-01-2008, 12:25 PM
importing anything from japan is not easy at all. The DOT specs are completely different.

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:34 PM
I look on craiglist and didn't find any. I gonna have to wait but my car is getting picked up in two days. So will not have a car for a little

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:36 PM
Yeah FD's aren't the most abundant of cars. You're going to be looking for a little while to find one on Craigslist. How about FD specific forums in the "for sale" section?

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Yeah FD's aren't the most abundant of cars. You're going to be looking for a little while to find one on Craigslist. How about FD specific forums in the "for sale" section?

Looking now lol.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Let us know what you find!

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 12:49 PM
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=785596
Emailed him

That the only one I found right now.

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Cool cool.

drew32
10-01-2008, 01:35 PM
FD's are a lot of work just to let you know. If all you have is 15k I'd say don't buy one. They need ALOT of money thrown into them, trust me I own one. Also remember that the engines don't last so long and depending on how your tune is and how much boost you run you could be looking at a new engine as soon as 40k miles. That doesn't include everything else that fails on a 15 year old car. Not saying you shouldn't buy one, just be aware they cost ALOT to keep on the road.

Oh and mine has leaked every fluid ive ever put in it haha. Oil, Coolant, windshield wiper fluid, gas... so many leaks! :)

LevittownMonster
10-01-2008, 01:45 PM
FD's are a lot of work just to let you know. If all you have is 15k I'd say don't buy one. They need ALOT of money thrown into them, trust me I own one. Also remember that the engines don't last so long and depending on how your tune is and how much boost you run you could be looking at a new engine as soon as 40k miles. That doesn't include everything else that fails on a 15 year old car. Not saying you shouldn't buy one, just be aware they cost ALOT to keep on the road.

Oh and mine has leaked every fluid ive ever put in it haha. Oil, Coolant, windshield wiper fluid, gas... so many leaks! :)

Ok it is me again but any way my brother owned a 300zx tt. I am sure he can have one.

OPZ
10-01-2008, 02:09 PM
Actually you can import a skyline legally...its either the R32 or R33, which no one really want's anyways.

And the motorex story short: They possibly "fudged" the paperwork for the R34's which pissed off the goverment so they said no R34's until they are older then the year restriction.


Just looked, its the R33. You can import an R33 and have it conformed to US standards. Don't believe me? Take a looksee for yourself!

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/CARS/RULES/IMPORT/elig050108.pdf

twastheglow
10-01-2008, 02:20 PM
Paperwork aside, I'll believe it when I see someone import an R33. And even if it is legal, you're probably looking at an extra $10-15K for importation and legalization.

TROLL
10-01-2008, 02:38 PM
The paperwork you quoted has limitations on the Skyline which I dont think will allow any to get through. The way I understand it they will allow importation of up to 32 of them total, "based on a petition from the manufacturer or registered importer which establishes that the vehicle has safety features that comply with, or are capable of being altered to comply with, all applicable Federadal motor vehicle safety standards."

To me that means that either Nissan or a registered importer (are there any in the US?) would need to ok it... and I dont see that happening.

namdoogwerdna
10-01-2008, 03:07 PM
To me that means that either Nissan or a registered importer (are there any in the US?) would need to ok it... and I dont see that happening.

There was MotoRex, but there are no more as far as I know.

From what I have been told, MotoRex literally performed crash tests on R32's and R33's to document the safety of them. However, since MotoRex was proven to use some fraudulent data with the R34's any work they did is now considered null.

Renegade_
10-01-2008, 03:14 PM
I am gonna give you a heads up - dept of homeland security is coming around and repossessing skylines.

Have fun, keep it on the DL.

Motorex only crashed '94/'95 R33s (aka OBDI) and use the info to R32/R34 chassis's.

The only skylines still legal are the motorex cars or stuff imported prior to the **** hitting the fan.

namdoogwerdna
10-01-2008, 03:17 PM
I am gonna give you a heads up - dept of homeland security is coming around and repossessing skylines.

How do you know this? (Not trying to be a dick/sarcastic, I'm just curious)

redline
10-01-2008, 03:18 PM
There was MotoRex, but there are no more as far as I know.

From what I have been told, MotoRex literally performed crash tests on R32's and R33's to document the safety of them. However, since MotoRex was proven to use some fraudulent data with the R34's any work they did is now considered null.

No I think they only crash tested one skyline, the R33. Eventhough, I see these things everyday on base and none of them stand out except for one. A nicely modded R33 from Japan (GI owned from Japan) with well over 600hp. The rest are buckets and I am sure if you are spending that low that what you are going to get. To own one in the states legally you almost have to have the car as a kit car that was certified and rebuilt with a 17 digit VIN, I know I looked into it for a PA title.

Renegade_
10-01-2008, 03:33 PM
How do you know this? (Not trying to be a dick/sarcastic, I'm just curious)
There were a few threads of it on NICO - give me a few.

namdoogwerdna
10-01-2008, 03:46 PM
Cool thanks

Renegade_
10-01-2008, 03:48 PM
Found one of em:

http://gtrusa.blogspot.com/2008/06/r32-gt-r-seized-in-texas.html

Number 23
10-02-2008, 11:45 AM
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles/skyline-import-1.shtml

Read this first before you buy! i was going to purchase a R32 myself only a month back until i read this. Plus usually the states never check with the feds when they register them so you can get your title but if anything happens and the feds can come knocking at your door and repose your car and fine you. There was only on skyline to go through crash testing and that was the R33.

and the only importer that could do crash testing is outta of business, Motorex from California. Here is a link and the story behind what all happened.

http://skylinegt-r.wikidot.com/0-60mrex

Technically you could get away having one, but it would be for off-road/show purpose only so you would only be able to put about 2,500 miles on the car in a year.

namdoogwerdna
10-02-2008, 12:02 PM
damn thats nuts