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russiankid
09-25-2008, 03:24 PM
The chipset fan on my desktop is dying. It will sometimes stop on its own and will have a hard time starting back up. I have a new fan on the way, but that won't be for another few days. Do you guys know of any temporary solutions?
Vr-4-Life
09-25-2008, 03:27 PM
yeah... turn the computer off before it overheats and fries the chip...
Scapegoat
09-25-2008, 03:27 PM
http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php
russiankid
09-25-2008, 03:28 PM
I can monitor my fan speed. It warns me when the RPM's fall under the level I set it to. Thats when I either give the fan a light tap or have to stop it with a small object and start it back up.
russiankid
09-25-2008, 03:29 PM
http://www.pugetsystems.com/submerged.php
That seems like a cool idea but that isn't temporary.:-p
Bizee
09-25-2008, 07:58 PM
buy one at bestbuy and return it when your mail order comes...
Scapegoat
09-25-2008, 08:00 PM
newegg + waiting > best buy + over priced
Bizee
09-26-2008, 12:03 AM
newegg + waiting > best buy + over priced
yah, i usually order parts from newegg about 2x a week. if im in a bind like i said i buy it at best buy, order it at newegg and return to bestbuy when my order comes in.
sean3
09-26-2008, 12:18 AM
Yeah buy from BB and return. If you have a box fan or any house fan for that matter take the side panel off and set that sucker up.
Vypurr
09-26-2008, 12:25 AM
Yeah buy from BB and return. If you have a box fan or any house fan for that matter take the side panel off and set that sucker up.
The box fan will drop the case temperature, but it will do nothing to lower the core temp of the processor though.
Bizee
09-26-2008, 12:32 AM
yup, your best bet is a spray bottle with ice water once it starts heating up.. just make sure you ground it well by touching the board while you spray the failing fan with water to bring down the temps.
crazyukrainian
09-26-2008, 03:13 PM
spraying water inside your computer? brilliant
seriously though, i've held a bag of ice to a laptop heatsink before when i really needed to install service packs and such, and you can abstain from gaming, etc to not overwork your processor too much (and thus keep it cool)
sean3
09-26-2008, 03:57 PM
The box fan will drop the case temperature, but it will do nothing to lower the core temp of the processor though.
He said the chipset fan died. That means his chipset had a heatsink on it. A box fan would blow air over said heatsink, thus cooling it. Oh and seeing as your processor is cooled with the air in the case, lower case temps would result in lower processor temps.
Vr-4-Life
09-26-2008, 04:02 PM
you need a lot of air movement directly on the headsink... not blowing all over the case disrupting airflow..
Bizee
09-26-2008, 04:12 PM
im guessing he means cpu not chipset fan.
the ice water trick works every time just make sure you ground your self to the board or power supply, serious service pack installers do it all the time for anything that is really going to eat up resources.
Vr-4-Life
09-26-2008, 04:17 PM
yup, your best bet is a spray bottle with ice water once it starts heating up.. just make sure you ground it well by touching the board while you spray the failing fan with water to bring down the temps.
that is the dumbest idea i have ever heard.... where do you expect all that water to go? it sure is hell wont evaporate... all if it will puddle up and run off the heat sink and onto the mainboard and 99% of boards arent completely insulated and it WILL short out...
dont ever touch a computer again....
Renegade_
09-26-2008, 04:37 PM
just buy a little fan from CompUSA or some store like that which has a standard molex connector. Then ghetto rig it to the PC. Northbridge coolers usually aren't that special. Hell, I don't even have one (then again, I am on oldschool K8 Via, socket 754 architecture). Or see if you can get a nVidia chipset fan. Throw some thermal paste on the bitch and stick it on there, problem solved.
Vr-4-Life
09-26-2008, 04:41 PM
yeah.. the only thing you have to worry about is if the heat sink comes off.. at that point the system wouldnt have time to respond to the dangerous tempatures and it would fly before it can shut off to prevent overheating...
find a tiny fan and super glue that **** on there..
sean3
09-26-2008, 04:48 PM
you need a lot of air movement directly on the headsink... not blowing all over the case disrupting airflow..
Yeah... what do I know. I haven't been building computers for 8 years or anything :roll:
Vypurr
09-26-2008, 04:57 PM
Yeah... what do I know. I haven't been building computers for 8 years or anything :roll:
Then I am personally glad that you have never built one for me! Think about it...If that theory worked, why does a CPU or northbridge often have a fan DIRECTLY ON IT. If it wasn't necessary, they would just put a box fan as the side of the case...
Bizee
09-26-2008, 05:14 PM
that is the dumbest idea i have ever heard.... where do you expect all that water to go? it sure is hell wont evaporate... all if it will puddle up and run off the heat sink and onto the mainboard and 99% of boards arent completely insulated and it WILL short out...
dont ever touch a computer again....
ive been dong this well over 8 years also, most of which specializing in overclocking and nitrogen cooling systems.
the best way to bring down temps is direct water sprayed on the cpu while grounding yourself on the power supply.. the temp with drop really fast right away... have this kid take video of himself doing it to prove it.
works for the memory bus also.
p.s. cases are enclosed for a reason and airflow is supposed to be directed in a specific way to make a efficient cooling system. taking the cover off + adding a box fan will prob do nothing more than heat up the room.
My friend overlocked his computer and put a box fan on the side and called it a "Polish Overlock". Needless to say, it ran cooler with it closed and the fans blowing on certain parts (the processor for instance.)
Water might work, but I have to admit, thats the silliest thing I've heard in a while. Sounds just as bright as punching a hole in your space suit because you want air.
jdubs
09-26-2008, 06:04 PM
The chipset fan on my desktop is dying. It will sometimes stop on its own and will have a hard time starting back up. I have a new fan on the way, but that won't be for another few days. Do you guys know of any temporary solutions?
Take the fan out while the computer is cool and spray some graphite solution on the bushings. Dude I work with fixes fans in this fashion all the time and they rarely actually fail, just get gummed up.
sean3
09-26-2008, 10:49 PM
ive been dong this well over 8 years also, most of which specializing in overclocking and nitrogen cooling systems.
the best way to bring down temps is direct water sprayed on the cpu while grounding yourself on the power supply.. the temp with drop really fast right away... have this kid take video of himself doing it to prove it.
works for the memory bus also.
p.s. cases are enclosed for a reason and airflow is supposed to be directed in a specific way to make a efficient cooling system. taking the cover off + adding a box fan will prob do nothing more than heat up the room.
Are you on XS? I haven't played with ln2, just dry ice.
It's quieter and easier to put smaller fans directly on the heatsinks instead of a massive fan on the side, not to mention draw less power. Is it the best method? no. But it works in a pinch. I know plenty of people who fixed their crashing computers by putting a big fan next to it. Do you need video proof or something? I figured it would be obvious that having non optimal airflow would be better than zero airflow.
I guess you guys think its black magic that causes my video cards to run 10C cooler without the side panel on my case also.
Vr-4-Life
09-26-2008, 10:55 PM
Then I am personally glad that you have never built one for me! Think about it...If that theory worked, why does a CPU or northbridge often have a fan DIRECTLY ON IT. If it wasn't necessary, they would just put a box fan as the side of the case...
thank you.. i will now answer your rhetorical question...
you put the fan on the heatsink for the same reason theres a fan on your radiator.... the kid is wrong.....every monkey that can put legos together can build a computer... it may turn on but it doesnt make them an expert...
NickS
09-26-2008, 11:27 PM
Yeah buy from BB and return. If you have a box fan or any house fan for that matter take the side panel off and set that sucker up.
We have our answer. Just set a fan up and have it blowing in the case. If the PC isn't unstable, the chipset isn't overheating.
Bizee
09-27-2008, 10:57 AM
i don't really care about any of this jr tech nonsense i just want video of someone spraying water inside their computer while holding the power supply.
russiankid
09-27-2008, 11:25 AM
The fan ended up going out completely. I took the MB out, took the fan out, took it all apart, put some air tool oil into the bearing and its holding up ok so far. New fan suppose to come in Thursday.
As far as frying my chipset, I doubt I will do that. I set the MB to warn me when the fan speed falls below a certain threshold.
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