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CleanNeon98
08-24-2008, 05:33 PM
First race:
5-speed max with VQ30
stillen exhaust
stillen intake?
not sure what else
I still cant launch so he got me right off the line
http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/silverfoxx2004/Videos/?action=view&current=e5b1f4a5.flv

Second race:
Another Maxima, automatic...he launched it in reverse
http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/silverfoxx2004/Videos/?action=view&current=9e631ff0.flv

The Captain
08-24-2008, 05:36 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/bballmistry/624nwpd.gif

peteyturbo
08-24-2008, 06:51 PM
Joo get beat by old v6 family car!
http://www.osmond-riba.org/lis/Graphics/blog/2007Q2/fail.jpg

Evo8kid
08-24-2008, 07:11 PM
street racing kills

garrettej8
08-24-2008, 07:14 PM
maxima's are pretty quick so I'm not surprised, but you should still get him if you could launch it better. it looked like you were catching up a little towards the middle of the run

The Captain
08-24-2008, 07:16 PM
i can't even watch the vids. I think i'm happy about that.

Scapegoat
08-24-2008, 08:19 PM
must've missed part of the "Racing" sections description...

Drag, Autocross, and Road Courses. Keep it legal, please.

james_ls
08-24-2008, 09:02 PM
Street racing is FTW.

Your a ****ing mudbucket.

Please fail.

Didn't you have friends that died from this kind of ****?

Asshat.

Extinguish yourself immediately.

Buster
08-24-2008, 09:19 PM
oh shut up retards.... Seriously, I guess all of you high horse mother****ers have never ever done over 80 on the street right.. Cool. Seriously, you are on a tuner forum with a car you drive every day, if you wanted to drive slow all the time you would have a hyundai. And to say your car has only raced on a track well i'd like to see proof. otherwise your opinions on street racing mean nothing because you are all clearly just trying to find a ****ing reason to scapegoat him. Sofar all I saw was a dark street with nothing but a mazda and a maxima running to third gear... please you pussies.

Street racig kills.. fine whatever thats cool. I know it you know it, the ****ing entire world knows it.... guess what people still do it, you can think about that the next time you get a couple of beers in you and you drive home or the next time you are doing 60 in a 45.... So do everyone on the forum a favor and shut the **** up, quit whining about street racing because no one ****ing cares anymore and get on with your ****ing lives.

[/rant]

Buster
08-24-2008, 09:29 PM
yes I am well aware that the forum doesnt condone street racing but oh ****ing well... **** hsppens.

Evo8kid
08-24-2008, 09:37 PM
i was kidding man, i just thought the videos sucked. did you have a bad day?

peteyturbo
08-24-2008, 09:48 PM
heh that was awesome

Scapegoat
08-24-2008, 09:49 PM
oh shut up retards.... Seriously, I guess all of you high horse mother****ers have never ever done over 80 on the street right.. Cool. Seriously, you are on a tuner forum with a car you drive every day, if you wanted to drive slow all the time you would have a hyundai. And to say your car has only raced on a track well i'd like to see proof. otherwise your opinions on street racing mean nothing because you are all clearly just trying to find a ****ing reason to scapegoat him. Sofar all I saw was a dark street with nothing but a mazda and a maxima running to third gear... please you pussies.

Street racig kills.. fine whatever thats cool. I know it you know it, the ****ing entire world knows it.... guess what people still do it, you can think about that the next time you get a couple of beers in you and you drive home or the next time you are doing 60 in a 45.... So do everyone on the forum a favor and shut the **** up, quit whining about street racing because no one ****ing cares anymore and get on with your ****ing lives.

[/rant]

omg I got a plug in a rant :lol:

peteyturbo
08-24-2008, 09:56 PM
anytime a post starts with the words "oh shut up retards" you know it's gonna be classic! lol
Cleanneon postage at it's finest!

Stillen GLE
08-24-2008, 10:01 PM
even though i own a maxima thats pretty funny I am not gonna lie.

Buster
08-24-2008, 11:36 PM
i was kidding man, i just thought the videos sucked. did you have a bad day?


LOL its not you man, I just cant understand how people always get on people for street racing or driving fast or something when we are on a forum of car enthusiasts not just people who drive cars but people who modify them to do the most their money can allow....but drive them everyday and rarely track them if even at all.

We all know street racing is stupid, anyone who knows me knows that I would have no reason to break someones balls for doing it. But the people who act like their car sees over 55 only at the track are full of ****!!!!!!

And the video was showing the same thing you would see at 1am in NE philly TONIGHT. It doesnt matter if it is two slow cars or two fast cars fact of the matter is that it was on a empty street and no one but the tards racing were there. I just wish the forum would not be such cereal binness.

Erik
08-24-2008, 11:44 PM
^x2.

as for the launch in reverse, priceless

TROLL
08-25-2008, 12:17 AM
Keith, it looks like you're having a bad week. Hey Susie... will you do something to take care of your man over here? If not for him, do it for the forum!

I don't see CN saying anything about street racing here so I dont know why everyone would jump on his back about it. We close threads that use terminology that make it blatantly obvious and without doubt that there was street racing like words 'street racing', 'highway pulls', give street names, or any other info like that... but we try not to moderate any more than we have to... so I'm not sure why members are.
Its a fine line, and I do not look kindly upon illegal racing so we don't condone it, but as a public forum we do what we can reasonably do and dont try to do more.

So anyway... haha dude, you got beat by a Maxima. Did you cry?

Buster
08-25-2008, 12:27 AM
why because I dont like cleaning up at the meets or that people whine too much about street racing? I'm fine really, but am I being unreasonable?

CleanNeon98
08-25-2008, 12:34 AM
oh shut up retards.... Seriously, I guess all of you high horse mother****ers have never ever done over 80 on the street right.. Cool. Seriously, you are on a tuner forum with a car you drive every day, if you wanted to drive slow all the time you would have a hyundai. And to say your car has only raced on a track well i'd like to see proof. otherwise your opinions on street racing mean nothing because you are all clearly just trying to find a ****ing reason to scapegoat him. Sofar all I saw was a dark street with nothing but a mazda and a maxima running to third gear... please you pussies.

Street racig kills.. fine whatever thats cool. I know it you know it, the ****ing entire world knows it.... guess what people still do it, you can think about that the next time you get a couple of beers in you and you drive home or the next time you are doing 60 in a 45.... So do everyone on the forum a favor and shut the **** up, quit whining about street racing because no one ****ing cares anymore and get on with your ****ing lives.

[/rant]
It was actually a long ass parking lot (wide too) which I think is better because if you do somehow lose control going 70?? you have runoff space. Amen to everything else you said.
Keith, it looks like you're having a bad week. Hey Susie... will you do something to take care of your man over here? If not for him, do it for the forum!

I don't see CN saying anything about street racing here so I dont know why everyone would jump on his back about it. We close threads that use terminology that make it blatantly obvious and without doubt that there was street racing like words 'street racing', 'highway pulls', give street names, or any other info like that... but we try not to moderate any more than we have to... so I'm not sure why members are.
Its a fine line, and I do not look kindly upon illegal racing so we don't condone it, but as a public forum we do what we can reasonably do and dont try to do more.

So anyway... haha dude, you got beat by a Maxima. Did you cry?
Nah, no crying. He launches way better than me. It goes like this. He gets a car length on me from the launch and then we stay that way forever...well maybe not because we are smart and never actually raced past 70-80mph. If I get my launches down, I will be golden.

Also, a proper mod list for the first max.

Custom stillen intake
Stillen straightpipe exhaust
ACT stage 1 clutch
Lightweight flywheel

Car is pretty quick, but I dont care, win or lose its all friendly and Im happy with my car anyway. If I wanted to be faster than everyone, I wouldnt have bought a Miata.

jdmwill
08-25-2008, 12:43 AM
It was actually a long ass parking lot (wide too) which I think is better because if you do somehow lose control going 70?? you have runoff space. Amen to everything else you said.

Nah, no crying. He launches way better than me. It goes like this. He gets a car length on me from the launch and then we stay that way forever...well maybe not because we are smart and never actually raced past 70-80mph. If I get my launches down, I will be golden.

Also, a proper mod list for the first max.

Custom stillen intake
Stillen straightpipe exhaust
ACT stage 1 clutch
Lightweight flywheel

Car is pretty quick, but I dont care, win or lose its all friendly and Im happy with my car anyway. If I wanted to be faster than everyone, I wouldnt have bought a Miata.

hey Alex you shoulda tried to drifted against the maxima you woulda had a better chance buddy.lol j/k bro

CleanNeon98
08-25-2008, 12:46 AM
hey Alex you shoulda tried to drifted against the maxima you woulda had a better chance buddy.lol j/k bro
TEACH ME MAN!!

First I need to readjust my e-brake cause I cant even lock the rear wheels with it right now.

jdmwill
08-25-2008, 01:14 AM
TEACH ME MAN!!

First I need to readjust my e-brake cause I cant even lock the rear wheels with it right now.

just go to the next clubloose event im pretty sure everybody would be pretty helpful to teach you. i'll keep you posted.

pearl
08-25-2008, 01:23 AM
street racing > drifting

Maximized2000
08-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Yo Alex, who was the second max?

R22B
08-25-2008, 02:08 AM
Well, at least you did it where there were no cars.


but srsly, posting incriminating stuff up on the interwebz isn't too smart.

C'DALERIDER
08-25-2008, 12:02 PM
I like the new Maximas. I want to drive one with the CVT trany. I know it wont perform like a MT but seems like a neat trany to drive. I know nothing about them. Anyone?

As for the OP, I am pretty hard on street racing posts but this one pass's my criteria, and obviously Brians/Trolls....so it cant be that bad! Parking lot racing WTF. Private property, no random victims, etc...kindof.

Still slow cars....ha.

emdot
08-25-2008, 12:02 PM
Joo get beat by old v6 family car!


So anyway... haha dude, you got beat by a Maxima. Did you cry?

DAANNG! whats with the maxima hate? LOL jk. I think Jeeves would back me up when i say dont sleep on ALL maximas LOL

OBEEWON
08-25-2008, 12:24 PM
street racing > drifting

street drifting > street racing

Street pimping > Street Drifting

Street Pimping = $$ = :wiggle:

TurboTagTeam
08-25-2008, 03:58 PM
Those videos were most defiantly shot in Mexico. So it's cool. Mexicano drag racing is awesome!!!!

I go to Mexico every time I film anything to do with street racing.

KingOfDelco
08-25-2008, 04:40 PM
- Street racing FTL... If its not on the Track, its street racing. one of these days we're going to be reading a "RIP CleanNeon" thread.
-wow, u lost to a heavy FWD sedan bolt on Maxima..... after all that ish you talked about how awesome your car is..... little embarasssing. :)
-"Car is pretty quick, but I dont care, win or lose its all friendly and Im happy with my car anyway. If I wanted to be faster than everyone, I wouldnt have bought a Miata." --- as long as your faster than Scion tc's...aka. commuter cars. :D

KingOfDelco
08-25-2008, 04:42 PM
TEACH ME MAN!!

First I need to readjust my e-brake cause I cant even lock the rear wheels with it right now.


u don't need e-brake to drift... though u might need a better car. :) j/k. i know u love your miata.

Snowboy459
08-25-2008, 05:26 PM
oh shut up retards.... Seriously, I guess all of you high horse mother****ers have never ever done over 80 on the street right.. Cool. Seriously, you are on a tuner forum with a car you drive every day, if you wanted to drive slow all the time you would have a hyundai. And to say your car has only raced on a track well i'd like to see proof. otherwise your opinions on street racing mean nothing because you are all clearly just trying to find a ****ing reason to scapegoat him. Sofar all I saw was a dark street with nothing but a mazda and a maxima running to third gear... please you pussies.

Street racig kills.. fine whatever thats cool. I know it you know it, the ****ing entire world knows it.... guess what people still do it, you can think about that the next time you get a couple of beers in you and you drive home or the next time you are doing 60 in a 45.... So do everyone on the forum a favor and shut the **** up, quit whining about street racing because no one ****ing cares anymore and get on with your ****ing lives.

[/rant]


Thank you!!

You saved me from typing it up.

OBEEWON
08-25-2008, 05:43 PM
Buster spits the truth.
I bet none of you will fight him. He will break you...

...then street race your mother...

...and never call her back....

pearl
08-25-2008, 05:59 PM
- Street racing FTL... If its not on the Track, its street racing. one of these days we're going to be reading a "RIP CleanNeon" thread.
-wow, u lost to a heavy FWD sedan bolt on Maxima..... after all that ish you talked about how awesome your car is..... little embarasssing. :)
-"Car is pretty quick, but I dont care, win or lose its all friendly and Im happy with my car anyway. If I wanted to be faster than everyone, I wouldnt have bought a Miata." --- as long as your faster than Scion tc's...aka. commuter cars. :D

Maybe you should get a better commuter car, being on a forum with car enthusiasts. Join a hybrid website or something.

I go to Mexico every time I film anything to do with street racing.
pm me next time you go down.

Street Pimping = $$ = :wiggle:
profit :)

Buster spits the truth.
I bet none of you will fight him. He will break you...

...then street race your mother...

...and never call her back....

thats cold.

russiankid
08-25-2008, 06:02 PM
Alex, don't be scared to pop the clutch. Looks like if you had a better launch you would have been either even or ahead of him.

i like rice
08-25-2008, 06:54 PM
Soon as you get the DP and catback you should be able to beat the Maxima. With the Maxima's bolt ons, it's a 13.9-14.2 sec car with a decent driver.

pearl
08-25-2008, 07:43 PM
rwd turbo car should beat a bolt on maxima? mmmm i think the miata just needs a better driver.

Buster
08-25-2008, 07:46 PM
- Street racing FTL... If its not on the Track, its street racing.


Thank you captian obvious of the starship duh....

Is Delco also known as weinerville? because you sir are a weiner.

pearl
08-25-2008, 07:49 PM
haha wat!

Buster
08-25-2008, 07:50 PM
Lol wut

Scapegoat
08-25-2008, 07:57 PM
Thank you captian obvious of the starship duh....

Is Delco also known as weinerville? because you sir are a weiner.

buster, have my babies :o

Buster
08-25-2008, 08:03 PM
buster, have my babies :o

By have do you mean EAT???

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1161/538662148_6a2a021336.jpg

Scapegoat
08-25-2008, 08:04 PM
works for me

Buster
08-25-2008, 08:05 PM
back on topic though.....

Seriously, he was in a empty long ass parking lot. Ricey yes, safe yes, worthy of TST wahhhh street racing. Build yourselves a bridge and get over it..

KingOfDelco
08-25-2008, 08:39 PM
CN- learn to launch/dump the clutch and heat up your [rear] tires before you race (in Mexico) that Max again and see if your results are any different.... even I beat Maximas. No offense. :)

garrettej8
08-25-2008, 08:48 PM
orly? oh by beating maximas you mean these kind?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/2nd_Nissan_Maxima.jpg/800px-2nd_Nissan_Maxima.jpg

240sxDann
08-25-2008, 09:48 PM
didn't read the thread but the guy launching in reverse made me giggle, the guy filming, his laugh, hilarious! I love a good laugh!

240sxDann
08-25-2008, 09:48 PM
CN- learn to launch/dump the clutch and heat up your [rear] tires before you race (in Mexico) that Max again and see if your results are any different.... even I beat Maximas. No offense. :)

Thats because your fwd car does wheelies...duh.

i like rice
08-26-2008, 12:26 AM
CN- learn to launch/dump the clutch and heat up your [rear] tires before you race (in Mexico) that Max again and see if your results are any different.... even I beat Maximas. No offense. :)

3600 rpm and feather the clutch. Heating up the stock Toyos won't make a difference.

Roto
08-26-2008, 11:41 AM
CN just needs to loose some weight, cause that's what's holding hte car back:-D

bru91
08-26-2008, 11:42 AM
CN- learn to launch/dump the clutch and heat up your [rear] tires before you race (in Mexico) that Max again and see if your results are any different.... even I beat Maximas. No offense. :)

Were the maximas you raced launching in reverse too?


wow, u lost to a heavy FWD sedan bolt on Maxima..... after all that ish you talked about how awesome your car is..... little embarasssing.

I'm sure a heavy FWD coupe would do much better. Maybe like a Scion TC or something :mrgreen: You do realize that the Maximas in the video are only about 105 lbs heavier than your TC right? And thats with two more doors and a 3.0 liter V6. The TC is a porker for what it is.

1995 Nissan Maxima SE
Curb Weight - Manual (lb.)- 3010

2005 Scion TC
Curb Weight - Manual (lb.)- 2905

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 12:11 PM
3600 rpm and feather the clutch. Heating up the stock Toyos won't make a difference.


heating up any tire into its optimum operating temperature range makes a difference. especially if u have a lightweigth rwd car thats struggling w/ traction issues. not that that was CN's problem, but nonetheless.

No. I've beaten a few Maxs in short distance acceleration from a dig. Can't say if they were 5-speed though. I guess I'm an awesome driver. :D

Edit: oh, okay. i just realized that previous post was by a MAxima guy, now it makes sense. lol.

bru91
08-26-2008, 12:27 PM
heating up any tire into its optimum operating temperature range makes a difference. especially if u have a lightweigth rwd car thats struggling w/ traction issues. not that that was CN's problem, but nonetheless.

No. I've beaten a few Maxs in short distance acceleration from a dig. Can't say if they were 5-speed though. I guess I'm an awesome driver. :D

Edit: oh, okay. i just realized that previous post was by a MAxima guy, now it makes sense. lol.

Just giving you a hard time haha. No hard feelings.

CleanNeon98
08-26-2008, 01:00 PM
heating up any tire into its optimum operating temperature range makes a difference. especially if u have a lightweigth rwd car thats struggling w/ traction issues. not that that was CN's problem, but nonetheless.

No. I've beaten a few Maxs in short distance acceleration from a dig. Can't say if they were 5-speed though. I guess I'm an awesome driver. :D

Edit: oh, okay. i just realized that previous post was by a MAxima guy, now it makes sense. lol.
No you havent...well maybe you beat a few autoboxes off the line to about 20mph

TurboTagTeam
08-26-2008, 01:07 PM
Don't drag race your miata. Your going to be nothing but disappointed. Keep it to the corners.

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 01:13 PM
No you havent...well maybe you beat a few autoboxes off the line to about 20mph


nah dude....sorry.

how fast did u say your car was again, 13s or low 14s... i forget... fyi- its neither.

CleanNeon98
08-26-2008, 01:18 PM
Don't drag race your miata. Your going to be nothing but disappointed. Keep it to the corners.
I like to have a mix of the 2 lol
nah dude....sorry.

how fast did u say your car was again, 13s or low 14s... i forget... fyi- its neither.
I never tracked it so I dont know yet, but it SHOULD be a low 14 second car. FYI, Ill make you my bitch in ANY race event so stfu.

pearl
08-26-2008, 01:19 PM
heating up any tire into its optimum operating temperature range makes a difference. especially if u have a lightweigth rwd car thats struggling w/ traction issues. not that that was CN's problem, but nonetheless.
A burnout on street tires isn't going to do that much for you. I've ran some of my best 60's with a little peel out to test my launch, not even a burnout.

No. I've beaten a few Maxs in short distance acceleration from a dig. Can't say if they were 5-speed though. I guess I'm an awesome driver. :D

you're such a bad ass street rac0r! do you has any mods on joor Totally Cool TC?

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 01:23 PM
[QUOTE=pearl;1021056]A burnout on street tires isn't going to do that much for you. I've ran some of my best 60's with a little peel out to test my launch, not even a burnout.
QUOTE]


well, i don't what tires u run. I'm on BFG Gforce KDW2s.

The traction difference between cold startup, and after I get home from a work commute is night/day.

lol.. it doesn't matter what tires they are. Burning out heats up the tires. Heating up the tires improves their stickiness. Its very basic concept. Sure, you don't need to do a smoky 5 minute burnout, but unless you've been driving on them for a while- to the point where they are fully warmed up, spinning the rears a few times to heat them up can ONLY HELP.

CleanNeon98
08-26-2008, 01:25 PM
KOD you are a huge jackass arguing with people who CLEARLY know more than you. Get out of my thread please, this is about me racing maximas, not your tC, or heating up tires, or your stupidity. Im going to flag this and hopefully you can stfu next time when your opinion is not wanted.

pearl
08-26-2008, 01:25 PM
Its not going to help THAT MUCH though, thats my point.
You're better off practicing launching instead of doing burnouts to warm up your street tires.

bru91
08-26-2008, 02:05 PM
Oh and just because i'm a Maxima guy that doesn't make the stats i posted about the TC any less true :wink: If you have a negative opinion about Maximas and Miatas that's fine, but don't act like the TC is far superior, because it isn't. I'm not hating, just stating the facts.

TurboTagTeam
08-26-2008, 02:19 PM
well, i don't what tires u run. I'm on BFG Gforce KDW2s.

The traction difference between cold startup, and after I get home from a work commute is night/day.

lol.. it doesn't matter what tires they are. Burning out heats up the tires. Heating up the tires improves their stickiness. Its very basic concept. Sure, you don't need to do a smoky 5 minute burnout, but unless you've been driving on them for a while- to the point where they are fully warmed up, spinning the rears a few times to heat them up can ONLY HELP.

Actually alot of street tires get really slippery when you do a full on burnout. Yes, they get hot...but that dosen't mean they will improve traction. I had KDW's on my RX7. They were best after doing a small spin to just get all the rocks off them.

And there is NO WAY your going to get street tires up to full temp with even aggresive street driving. I have ToyoT1R's on my 240 right now. I'v had the car sideways at 90-100mph and I STILL don't know what they feel like at full temp. On the street...there is too much time for them to cool down not like a racetrack were you can constaintly beat the living piss out of them without having to worry about hitting mailboxes or babies walking across the street.

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 03:32 PM
KOD you are a huge jackass arguing with people who CLEARLY know more than you. Get out of my thread please, this is about me racing maximas, not your tC, or heating up tires, or your stupidity. Im going to flag this and hopefully you can stfu next time when your opinion is not wanted.

wow. that was COMPLETELY uncalled for.....

haha, FLAG WHAT??lol...

unfortunately, your insult has been reported... i smell another ban coming CN. thought u would have learned the 1st time... u need to find better ways to deal with people whom u don't agree with.

don't be mad at me because my car is quicker than yours....

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 03:34 PM
Oh and just because i'm a Maxima guy that doesn't make the stats i posted about the TC any less true :wink: If you have a negative opinion about Maximas and Miatas that's fine, but don't act like the TC is far superior, because it isn't. I'm not hating, just stating the facts.

oh sorry... did i SAY my tc was superior??? I must have been sleep-typing.....

I actually like 5 speed Max's.

and no, the fact that your a max guy doesn't mean that.. however, it means that you know about max's and i know about tcs.... i don't claim to know maxs, so don't act like u know tc's. k? thx.

pearl
08-26-2008, 03:36 PM
wow. that was COMPLETELY uncalled for.....

haha, FLAG WHAT??lol...

unfortunately, your insult has been reported... i smell another ban coming CN. thought u would have learned the 1st time... u need to find better ways to deal with people whom u don't agree with.

don't be mad at me because my car is quicker than yours....

oh sorry... did i SAY my tc was superior??? I must have been sleep-typing.....

I actually like 5 speed Max's.

and no, the fact that your a max guy doesn't mean that.. however, it means that you know about max's and i know about tcs.... i don't claim to know maxs, so don't act like u know tc's. k? thx.
stop. serial. either making a thread in the garbage bin or fight each other.

there is too much time for them to cool down not like a racetrack were you can constaintly beat the living piss out of them without having to worry about hitting mailboxes or babies walking across the street.

damn babies and walking across the street.

i agree, with a better launch the car could beat the maxima the way it is. it should be a huge advantage once the launch is down perfectly. you can drop A LOT of time.

CleanNeon98
08-26-2008, 03:37 PM
wow. that was COMPLETELY uncalled for.....

haha, FLAG WHAT??lol...

unfortunately, your insult has been reported... i smell another ban coming CN. thought u would have learned the 1st time... u need to find better ways to deal with people whom u don't agree with.

don't be mad at me because my car is quicker than yours....
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::bs:

Roto
08-26-2008, 03:48 PM
[QUOTE=pearl;1021056]A burnout on street tires isn't going to do that much for you. I've ran some of my best 60's with a little peel out to test my launch, not even a burnout.
QUOTE]


well, i don't what tires u run. I'm on BFG Gforce KDW2s.

The traction difference between cold startup, and after I get home from a work commute is night/day.

lol.. it doesn't matter what tires they are. Burning out heats up the tires. Heating up the tires improves their stickiness. Its very basic concept. Sure, you don't need to do a smoky 5 minute burnout, but unless you've been driving on them for a while- to the point where they are fully warmed up, spinning the rears a few times to heat them up can ONLY HELP.

Said a FWD driver...

marshallpre1
08-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Ugh Delco. I like tC's a lot actually. Very torquey engines. Pretty good cars.





























I drive my gf's all the time

CleanNeon98
08-26-2008, 03:59 PM
Ugh Delco. I like tC's a lot actually. Very torquey engines. Pretty good cars.




I drive my gf's all the time
ahahhaahhahah i ROFLED at work when I saw that

pearl
08-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Said a FWD driver...

what?

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 04:29 PM
haha. okay, back on topic guys.. lets talk about CN losing to the max again... that was more fun. lol, j/k. CN- u take stuff way too personally. who cares if u lost to a maxima? as u said, u didn't buy your car to be fast.

bru91
08-26-2008, 04:32 PM
CN- learn to launch/dump the clutch and heat up your [rear] tires before you race (in Mexico) that Max again and see if your results are any different.... even I beat Maximas. No offense. :)

That right there insinuates that you think your tc is superior. So no you weren't sleep-typing when you typed that sorry.

wow, u lost to a heavy FWD sedan bolt on Maxima

And that comment makes it seem like you think you know about Maximas when you don't.

i don't claim to know maxs, so don't act like u know tc's. k? thx.

Who's acting? Are you saying the tc doesn't almost weigh as much as an old V6 sedan? I'm giving you legitimate facts on how much tc's weigh in comparison to Maximas. These aren't claims, they're the truth. I'm not claiming anything. k? thnx.

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 04:34 PM
lmao! all i know, is i've beaten at least 2 maximas... u don't believe me. Nothing I can do about that. thats your problem.

bru91
08-26-2008, 04:41 PM
I believe you i'm just saying don't sleep on all Maximas. I'm not trying to argue with you or insult you i'm just messing around and stating facts. When you make comments like that you have to be prepared to be challenged. It's all in good fun.

marshallpre1
08-26-2008, 04:45 PM
you three should just race and get it over with. I can tape you guys... from the front :-p j/k

pearl
08-26-2008, 05:06 PM
lmao! all i know, is i've beaten at least 2 maximas...

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/saijo_18/clapping.gif

ozthunder
08-26-2008, 05:08 PM
If I had my bar, I'd be watching thread like these like a greasy ambulance chaser. Illegal **** FTL. Contingency fees FTW.

jonwepa
08-26-2008, 05:48 PM
Be careful on the streets of philly racing maxima's there many low 14 second 95-99's, a few 13 second ones and even a couple 12 second ones, soon to be more. Again all of these being the a32 95-99 body style w/ the 190hp motor 3.0's NOT the 3.5's

garrettej8
08-26-2008, 06:05 PM
I'm gonna trade my car in for a TC

pearl
08-26-2008, 06:19 PM
Be careful on the streets of philly racing maxima's there many low 14 second 95-99's, a few 13 second ones and even a couple 12 second ones, soon to be more.

wow 12s!?
FOR REAL?
more!?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

CleanNeon98
08-26-2008, 06:27 PM
Be careful on the streets of philly racing maxima's there many low 14 second 95-99's, a few 13 second ones and even a couple 12 second ones, soon to be more. Again all of these being the a32 95-99 body style w/ the 190hp motor 3.0's NOT the 3.5's
Im well aware of that, I know most of the owners personally :lol:
wow 12s!?
FOR REAL?
more!?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Yea

KingOfDelco
08-26-2008, 07:18 PM
I believe you i'm just saying don't sleep on all Maximas. I'm not trying to argue with you or insult you i'm just messing around and stating facts. When you make comments like that you have to be prepared to be challenged. It's all in good fun.


no worries at all dude. like i said, i've always liked maxs. I'm sure there are lots of the same gen that would smoke me... not that I really care. But still.

exactly. all in good fun. thats what its supposed to be.. unfortunately some people take it as a personal attack if you say your car is faster than theirs. or better, etc... CN just has a personal issue w/ me. And not just me apparently. He just needs to lighten up a bit... for christ sake, he has a miata...should have thicker skin. Did u not expect to be razzed a lil bit?? I do.

peteyturbo
08-27-2008, 12:50 AM
isn't that the 42r that got beat by like a 14 second dsm?DAANNG! whats with the maxima hate? LOL jk. I think Jeeves would back me up when i say dont sleep on ALL maximas LOL

peteyturbo
08-27-2008, 12:55 AM
dude let him stay, its awesome.KOD you are a huge jackass arguing with people who CLEARLY know more than you. Get out of my thread please, this is about me racing maximas, not your tC, or heating up tires, or your stupidity. Im going to flag this and hopefully you can stfu next time when your opinion is not wanted.

peteyturbo
08-27-2008, 12:56 AM
What do you mean, full temp for a street tire is not high at all.Actually alot of street tires get really slippery when you do a full on burnout. Yes, they get hot...but that dosen't mean they will improve traction. I had KDW's on my RX7. They were best after doing a small spin to just get all the rocks off them.

And there is NO WAY your going to get street tires up to full temp with even aggresive street driving. I have ToyoT1R's on my 240 right now. I'v had the car sideways at 90-100mph and I STILL don't know what they feel like at full temp. On the street...there is too much time for them to cool down not like a racetrack were you can constaintly beat the living piss out of them without having to worry about hitting mailboxes or babies walking across the street.

peteyturbo
08-27-2008, 12:57 AM
what are we 5 years old now?wow. that was COMPLETELY uncalled for.....

haha, FLAG WHAT??lol...

unfortunately, your insult has been reported... i smell another ban coming CN. thought u would have learned the 1st time... u need to find better ways to deal with people whom u don't agree with.

don't be mad at me because my car is quicker than yours....

R22B
08-27-2008, 01:47 AM
What do you mean, full temp for a street tire is not high at all.

Depends on the tire bro. For example, BFGoodrich puts out some CRAZY DOT approved tires that look like they belong on the track AND perform as they are track tires.

CleanNeon98
08-27-2008, 01:53 AM
Depends on the tire bro. For example, BFGoodrich puts out some CRAZY DOT approved tires that look like they belong on the track AND perform as they are track tires.
An all season toyo proxes 4 does not fall in that category

peteyturbo
08-27-2008, 02:34 AM
And this is POINTLESS because any soft compound street tire other then a drag radial sucks worse then a cheap low optimum temp all season tire for straight line traction anyway.

R22B
08-27-2008, 01:21 PM
Just saying, there are some very mean summer performance tires out there that would shock you ;)

weelman1
08-27-2008, 01:32 PM
lmao! all i know, is i've beaten at least 2 maximas... u don't believe me. Nothing I can do about that. thats your problem.


LOL.







Chick car.





LOL.

weelman1
08-27-2008, 01:40 PM
Be careful on the streets of philly racing maxima's there many low 14 second 95-99's, a few 13 second ones and even a couple 12 second ones, soon to be more. Again all of these being the a32 95-99 body style w/ the 190hp motor 3.0's NOT the 3.5's


Shhh. lol


This thread is funny.

To op: I didnt know the black max with a stillen exhaust also had a lightened flywheel? hmmph are we adding parts by the hour?:bigeek:
Any way "Bolt-on" max ftw
"Hate it or love the underdogs on to"

KingOfDelco
08-27-2008, 01:42 PM
Depends on the tire bro. For example, BFGoodrich puts out some CRAZY DOT approved tires that look like they belong on the track AND perform as they are track tires.

x2. my BFG street tires use the same compound as the drag radials... but I guess the different tread pattern makes them not warm up like drag radials. :D

russiankid
08-27-2008, 02:26 PM
x2. my BFG street tires use the same compound as the drag radials... but I guess the different tread pattern makes them not warm up like drag radials. :D

I don't think its the tread pattern, I think you just lack the power to warm them up.

CleanNeon98
08-27-2008, 02:49 PM
Shhh. lol


This thread is funny.

To op: I didnt know the black max with a stillen exhaust also had a lightened flywheel? hmmph are we adding parts by the hour?:bigeek:
Any way "Bolt-on" max ftw
"Hate it or love the underdogs on to"
He told me he had an ACT stage 1 clutch and flywheel...I could only assume one thing. Stop instigating **** with me. :roll:

peteyturbo
08-27-2008, 06:23 PM
Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about. Now you are making yourself look stupid again..x2. my BFG street tires use the same compound as the drag radials... but I guess the different tread pattern makes them not warm up like drag radials. :D

CleanNeon98
08-27-2008, 06:24 PM
x2. my BFG street tires use the same compound as the drag radials... but I guess the different tread pattern makes them not warm up like drag radials. :D
I don't think its the tread pattern, I think you just lack the power to warm them up.
That makes more sense :wink:

arkadyzv
08-27-2008, 06:48 PM
isn't that the 42r that got beat by like a 14 second dsm?

Jeeves car? Its a regular, non-bb Gt40 @ 7psi, spiking to 8 I believe.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Turbo-Maxima-14-run-3_116888.htm

The no way in hell a 14second dsm is touching it, unless they raced 0-30 or something.

Buster
08-27-2008, 07:19 PM
Jeeves car? Its a regular, non-bb Gt40 @ 7psi, spiking to 8 I believe.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Turbo-Maxima-14-run-3_116888.htm

The no way in hell a 14second dsm is touching it, unless they raced 0-30 or something.

I second that, Jeeve's car is sickness el grande. No joke Bro.... without the Nitrous.

pinacup7
08-27-2008, 08:25 PM
Stop trying to act like you know what you are talking about. Now you are making yourself look stupid again..

Yea for real... KOD your making yourself sound dumber after each post.

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 01:01 AM
wow this prolly was the most insane thread I have ever seen dealing with a maxima...o wait mine. Long story short. Its a 95 3.0 with a custom stillen intake act stage 1 clutch new OEM flywheel full stillen straight pipes all on BFG Gforces. We only were messing around up there cause i marked off what a quarter mile was in the parking lot. We were there to take photographs. Cops dont care what we do there. We drift there all the time (and no before anyone post but you have FWD in the 240s (that i use to own) and my friends own). I backed the car off after shifting into 3rd everytime cause we were just messing around. bfgs dont do anything when you heat the street tires up. you are just burning tread (and thats track and street tested). And with all your maxima hate king of delco ill gladly race you with my fat family sedan anyday :)

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 01:17 AM
wow this prolly was the most insane thread I have ever seen dealing with a maxima...o wait mine. Long story short. Its a 95 3.0 with a custom stillen intake act stage 1 clutch new OEM flywheel full stillen straight pipes all on BFG Gforces. We only were messing around up there cause i marked off what a quarter mile was in the parking lot. We were there to take photographs. Cops dont care what we do there. We drift there all the time (and no before anyone post but you have FWD in the 240s (that i use to own) and my friends own). I backed the car off after shifting into 3rd everytime cause we were just messing around. bfgs dont do anything when you heat the street tires up. you are just burning tread (and thats track and street tested). And with all your maxima hate king of delco ill gladly race you with my fat family sedan anyday :)
I offered him a 5 length head start before...think thats fair enough?? :lol:

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 08:21 AM
sorry guys, i don't cyber-race. and i dont' have time to partake in your little ricer street race wars....nor do I have any need/desire to "show what my car can do" and be awesome like you guys... :D

Be a real man, challenge me to a 1-1 hoops game, wrestling or kickboxing match.... Besides, who cares who wins a race between 2 slow BOUGHT/stock cars....

C'DALERIDER
08-28-2008, 08:51 AM
well this post sucks now...lol. Geting Petey reved up is serious business.
No beef with any1...but Ill wrestle or MMA with ya :cool:


<Millersville>Clarion U (if you know ANything about wrestling) wrestler, early MMA participant. Now skinny and just ride my bicycle everywhere.....lol. iN fairness...if you are not over 190lbs, dont bother offering.

weelman1
08-28-2008, 12:49 PM
wow this prolly was the most insane thread I have ever seen dealing with a maxima...o wait mine. Long story short. Its a 95 3.0 with a custom stillen intake act stage 1 clutch new OEM flywheel full stillen straight pipes all on BFG Gforces. We only were messing around up there cause i marked off what a quarter mile was in the parking lot. We were there to take photographs. Cops dont care what we do there. We drift there all the time (and no before anyone post but you have FWD in the 240s (that i use to own) and my friends own). I backed the car off after shifting into 3rd everytime cause we were just messing around. bfgs dont do anything when you heat the street tires up. you are just burning tread (and thats track and street tested). And with all your maxima hate king of delco ill gladly race you with my fat family sedan anyday :)

:roll: Wasnt starting #^&t. I just wanted to make sure you knew what "bolt ons" he had:mrgreen:

well this post sucks now...lol. Geting Petey reved up is serious business.
No beef with any1...but Ill wrestle or MMA with ya :cool:


<Millersville>Clarion U (if you know ANything about wrestling) wrestler, early MMA participant. Now skinny and just ride my bicycle everywhere.....lol. iN fairness...if you are not over 190lbs, dont bother offering.

I weigh 187, & I dont fight so to even the field i'll start off with a swift chop to your throat & 1 knee to the gutt:lol:

C'DALERIDER
08-28-2008, 01:18 PM
I weigh 187, & I dont fight so to even the field i'll start off with a swift chop to your throat & 1 knee to the gutt:lol:[/QUOTE]

Neither of which will conceed a brawl, and you could not get close enough to do either before getting your air ticket/thumped. Promis. newbe.

weelman1
08-28-2008, 01:46 PM
I weigh 187, & I dont fight so to even the field i'll start off with a swift chop to your throat & 1 knee to the gutt:lol:

Neither of which will conceed a brawl, and you could not get close enough to do either before getting your air ticket/thumped. Promis. newbe.[/QUOTE]


Yawnz
Requests you to be :banned: for cock e niss.
Whipes tears from eyez for being called a "newbe"
.................................................. ................
:-p

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 02:55 PM
KIng of Delco you like rolling around with a guy instead of Racing even at a track ??!? lil weird but whatever and would gladly brawl you too hah

"Newbe" hahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahah hahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahah hahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahah hahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahah hahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahahhahah

that def made my day better to hear that.

hahahha

thats just hillarious

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 03:02 PM
I know this is totally off topic, but Devin, when are we racing again? haha

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 03:08 PM
First in addition KOD ......urs is stock.....mine is far from stock........and not for a long time. After i shredded the last tranny i gotta take it easy and see if im selling it or redoing the car

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 03:15 PM
First in addition KOD ......urs is stock.....mine is far from stock........and not for a long time. After i shredded the last tranny i gotta take it easy and see if im selling it or redoing the car
Hes gonna come up with some gay 1-liner for that. :lol:

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 03:28 PM
First in addition KOD ......urs is stock.....mine is far from stock........and not for a long time. After i shredded the last tranny i gotta take it easy and see if im selling it or redoing the car

LMFAO!!!! :D

haha. 1st off, you're wrong. 2nd, u have 2 "power-adder mods": intake and exhaust. a Clutch, HIDs, and sound system does not make your car faster... :D

and fyi- I have just as many power-mods as you (intake & exhaust) and also have a 85% upgraded suspension and either the same or better tires than you. In fact, all told I have WAY more mods than you. :) so whatever that means to you.

just wanted to clear you up on that.....

U shredded a tranny? u must be a great driver! :D

emdot
08-28-2008, 03:35 PM
This thread is full of win eL oh eL

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 03:40 PM
LMFAO!!!! :D

haha. 1st off, you're wrong. 2nd, u have 2 "power-adder mods": intake and exhaust. a Clutch, HIDs, and sound system does not make your car faster... :D

and fyi- I have just as many power-mods as you (intake & exhaust) and also have a 85% upgraded suspension and either the same or better tires than you. In fact, all told I have WAY more mods than you. :) so whatever that means to you.

just wanted to clear you up on that.....

U shredded a tranny? u must be a great driver! :D
The difference between his mods and yours is that his mods actually make a difference in performance.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 03:42 PM
The difference between his mods and yours is that his mods actually make a difference in performance.

HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

they're the same mods genius. :D and I actually have SUSPENSION PERFORMANCE mods too.... give it up already kid. jeezus.

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 03:44 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

they're the same mods genius. :D and I actually have SUSPENSION PERFORMANCE mods too.... give it up already kid. jeezus.
yea but his car becomes faster, yours just becomes louder from the BPUs. he will still outhandle you as well, maxi-pads are known for pretty good cornering

pearl
08-28-2008, 03:52 PM
x2. my BFG street tires use the same compound as the drag radials... but I guess the different tread pattern makes them not warm up like drag radials. :D

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l218/japearl/smile/lulz.gif

jonwepa
08-28-2008, 03:56 PM
HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

they're the same mods genius. :D and I actually have SUSPENSION PERFORMANCE mods too.... give it up already kid. jeezus.

I would consider a upgraded clutch a mode. It grabs better, which will increase launches and shifting......Just thought I would add something to this strange thread:mrgreen:

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 03:56 PM
honestly you must be the dumbest person on tst if you think a clutch doesnt help performance. and when did i ever say my sound makes a difference. Oh and btw the maxima trans is the worst trans nissan ever made. lets count how many a32 blew their trans this week o wait 3 go ask jeeves and mark lol. why do you get so defensive that my older car is faster than your new girls car. oh and my bfg were bought 2 weeks ago so less you bought them yesterday mine are newer. i never said my car was some fast high horse heavy modded car. this thread was bout me and alex having fun i didnt post the vid he did i only posted to state what mods my car actually has. But then u agrgue that ur soo much cooler car it just soo fast cause u weigh 200lbs less and have suspension...wow every civic in the meadow has suspension ur really cool bro. oh wait whats ur car run at the track? you have no idea cause ur to cool to race your car. your on a tuner forum challenging other guys to roll on the ground half naked with you. and whats this- you dont cyber race?!? i never challanged you to a internet race. sunday nights in the northeast...ill beat you with a blown trans.

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 04:01 PM
honestly you must be the dumbest person on tst if you think a clutch doesnt help performance. and when did i ever say my sound makes a difference. Oh and btw the maxima trans is the worst trans nissan ever made. lets count how many a32 blew their trans this week o wait 3 go ask jeeves and mark lol. why do you get so defensive that my older car is faster than your new girls car. oh and my bfg were bought 2 weeks ago so less you bought them yesterday mine are newer. i never said my car was some fast high horse heavy modded car. this thread was bout me and alex having fun i didnt post the vid he did i only posted to state what mods my car actually has. But then u agrgue that ur soo much cooler car it just soo fast cause u weigh 200lbs less and have suspension...wow every civic in the meadow has suspension ur really cool bro. oh wait whats ur car run at the track? you have no idea cause ur to cool to race your car. your on a tuner forum challenging other guys to roll on the ground half naked with you. and whats this- you dont cyber race?!? i never challanged you to a internet race. sunday nights in the northeast...ill beat you with a blown trans.
Can I be the camera car?? Ill have to film backwards though to keep the lens focused on him :lol:

Whitesupra94
08-28-2008, 04:04 PM
So this thread is 7 pages long with street racing videos on the first post, and I got a thread locked and yelled at for asking if a mustang cobra I ran into one night was on the boards.....?

:bigeek::bigeek::bigeek:

/rant

jonwepa
08-28-2008, 04:05 PM
So this thread is 7 pages long with street racing videos on the first post, and I got a thread locked and yelled at for asking if a mustang cobra I ran into one night was on the boards.....?

:bigeek::bigeek::bigeek:

/rant

Very good point.....

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 04:07 PM
ricers make me lmao!

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 04:08 PM
So this thread is 7 pages long with street racing videos on the first post, and I got a thread locked and yelled at for asking if a mustang cobra I ran into one night was on the boards.....?

:bigeek::bigeek::bigeek:

/rant
Because all stunts in this thread were performed by professional drivers on a closed course :roll:

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 04:08 PM
did you seriously call me a ricer......bring your car out and looose and the go cry to your boyfriend

pearl
08-28-2008, 04:12 PM
holy jesus this is like watching two retards kickbox each other.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 04:14 PM
cyber-ricer racer FTW!!! :D

"I have an intake and exaust on teh maxima my mommy and daddy bought for me.... I'M AWESOME!"

FYi- a clutch does not improve performance.... at least if you are still at stock power levels! :D however, it will hamper performance if you are exceeding its torque capacity.

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 04:16 PM
cyber-ricer racer FTW!!! :D

"I have an intake and exaust on teh maxima my mommy and daddy bought for me.... I'M AWESOME!"

FYi- a clutch does not improve performance.... at least if you are still at stock power levels! :D however, it will hamper performance if you are exceeding its torque capacity.
Except hes not on stock power levels nad you just pulled that statement off of google or the tC boards to look smart and it doesnt even make sense here. shut up.

a beefier clutch does help performance....why do you think im not granading my launches? because my stock clutch wont take it well. dumbass

arkadyzv
08-28-2008, 04:37 PM
First in addition KOD ......urs is stock.....mine is far from stock........and not for a long time. After i shredded the last tranny i gotta take it easy and see if im selling it or redoing the car

Exhaust wise, do you have the Y-pipe back or stock y-pipe?

LMFAO!!!! :D

haha. 1st off, you're wrong. 2nd, u have 2 "power-adder mods": intake and exhaust. a Clutch, HIDs, and sound system does not make your car faster... :D

and fyi- I have just as many power-mods as you (intake & exhaust) and also have a 85% upgraded suspension and either the same or better tires than you. In fact, all told I have WAY more mods than you. :) so whatever that means to you.

just wanted to clear you up on that.....

U shredded a tranny? u must be a great driver! :D

Define suspension mods....

yea but his car becomes faster, yours just becomes louder from the BPUs. he will still outhandle you as well, maxi-pads are known for pretty good cornering
Doubt it, depending on what KOD has, especially a bone stock 95 maxima with 13 year old suspension, I'd honestly put my money on the TC.

I would consider a upgraded clutch a mode. It grabs better, which will increase launches and shifting......Just thought I would add something to this strange thread:mrgreen:
Intake and upgraded exhaust from the y-pipe makes at most 10whp.
Intake , y-pipe and exhaust makes probably 20 whp.
I highly doubt 20whp is going to do anything to a good condition stock clutch. I'd agree that it is a mod, but in this scenario I dont see how its going to affect performance.

honestly you must be the dumbest person on tst if you think a clutch doesnt help performance. and when did i ever say my sound makes a difference. Oh and btw the maxima trans is the worst trans nissan ever made. lets count how many a32 blew their trans this week o wait 3 go ask jeeves and mark lol. ....
Disagree, Jeeve ****s trannies because he's just about doubled his power output. If anything I think its decent, considering he's putting twice through it then what it usually has. AFAIK even on spray he never had any issues. I may be talking out of my ass, but honestly I dont see anything with less than 200whp breaking trannies unless its driver error or abuse. Jeeve can correct me but its usually his 3rd gear that goes, but then again theres 360whp going through it. His last trans had 100k+ from the junkyard for a 150$ , he was running 11-12 psi chasing down modded Cobras and it held fine. The only time I've seen it **** the bed is when you lose traction and then regain traction when fully on it and in full boost, i.e us in his car pwning a skittle, hit a dip, lost traction, regained traction, heard all the teeth strip off 3rd gear. The rest of his tranny issues came from badly rebuilt units.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 04:51 PM
B]why do you think im not granading my launches? because my stock clutch wont take it well. dumbass[/B]

Lol... u are clueless son.

You have a mazdaspeed car. your stock clutch is designed to handle your low tq levels. You just don't know how to launch. :D I will teach u someday.

so, your clutch slips when you drop it??? Cuz thats all a clutch can do, grab and slip. Really the only reason u upgrade a clutch is if you are exceeding its rated tq level.

upgrading a clutch on stock power (or 2 boltons) will not really do anything to improve you track times. in fact, its been known to negatively affect performance.

jonwepa
08-28-2008, 05:02 PM
I still would consider a clutch a mod, but thats just my opinion. Now as for the tranny goes i do have to agree that breaking a tranny usually comes form a bad driver or LOTS of power, so I have to go against you there dgriff858:(

Now as for a race I think the max will winn by a good amount. This is also just a opinion from seeing both cars drive and race. The tc has a nice torquey 4cyl where as the maxima has a smooth v6 with more power and torque.

max ftw

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 05:05 PM
1. I'm assuming your referring to the V6 max here.

2. my susp. mods = eibach pro kit on TRD shocks/struts all around. DC sports stut tower brace (also upgrade rotors, pads and SS lines, and lighter wheels and BFGs...cuz some people include these as susp. mods)... all i need to sure it up is Fr/Rear sway bays (thats why i said 85%)--which are a PITA to install.

3. I'm not into cyber-racing, but either way it would be a close race. There is certainly NO WAY either one can definitively say " i would smoke you".. that is ignorant. a less advanced 13 year old 190hp V6 w/ boltons in a heavier car would be a good challenge for my 3 year old motor with more advanced technology and similar bolt ons, in a lighter car w/ tuned suspension and stickier tires... Lets just leave it alone.

4. Even 20whp (35ish BHP) is a lot for those boltons without any tuning. Does the motor have vvt on intake and exhaust cams? if not, you won't even get that much.

1. Exhaust wise, do you have the Y-pipe back or stock y-pipe?



2. Define suspension mods....


3. Doubt it, depending on what KOD has, especially a bone stock 95 maxima with 13 year old suspension, I'd honestly put my money on the TC.


4. Intake and upgraded exhaust from the y-pipe makes at most 10whp.
Intake , y-pipe and exhaust makes probably 20 whp.
I highly doubt 20whp is going to do anything to a good condition stock clutch. I'd agree that it is a mod, but in this scenario I dont see how its going to affect performance.


Disagree, Jeeve ****s trannies because he's just about doubled his power output. If anything I think its decent, considering he's putting twice through it then what it usually has. AFAIK even on spray he never had any issues. I may be talking out of my ass, but honestly I dont see anything with less than 200whp breaking trannies unless its driver error or abuse. Jeeve can correct me but its usually his 3rd gear that goes, but then again theres 360whp going through it. His last trans had 100k+ from the junkyard for a 150$ , he was running 11-12 psi chasing down modded Cobras and it held fine. The only time I've seen it **** the bed is when you lose traction and then regain traction when fully on it and in full boost, i.e us in his car pwning a skittle, hit a dip, lost traction, regained traction, heard all the teeth strip off 3rd gear. The rest of his tranny issues came from badly rebuilt units.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 05:08 PM
The tc has a nice torquey 4cyl where as the maxima has a smooth v6 with more power and torque.

max ftw

and the tc is lighter and the V6 is 13 years old and has obviously gone thru some abuse....it would be a good race.

Right, i never said clutch wasn't a mod, it just does not increase power or improve performance really. Even cleaning up your shifts a bit won't get you
.1 in a race.

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 05:08 PM
1. I'm assuming your referring to the V6 max here.
I was not aware of any other kind :roll: You would lose, and pretty significantly too. Ive seen tCs run, and ive seen this car run, and I see the picture painted clearly in my head already. I say 4-5 cars by the time he hits 70

pearl
08-28-2008, 05:11 PM
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jonwepa
08-28-2008, 05:15 PM
and the tc is lighter and the V6 is 13 years old and has obviously gone thru some abuse....it would be a good race.

Right, i never said clutch wasn't a mod, it just does not increase power or improve performance really. Even cleaning up your shifts a bit won't get you
.1 in a race.

Listen I know your tc will never brake into 14's the way it sits right now. Can we agree with that????

If so you should lose, becuase a 13 yr old maxima can break into the 14's with the simple boltons he has.

There is one other issue here and that is if its going to be at a track or on the streets, because that will make a difference traction wise.

Basically if he out launches you you will have NO chance of realing him in, but if you out launch him he actually will have a chance of catching you not saying he will, but he does have a chance. Yet another reason i say you will lose is your car probably traps at say 91 on a good day where as a maxima with his bolt on's can trap 93-94mph.:o

What I am typing here is just plain truth nothing else

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 05:15 PM
I was not aware of any other kind :roll: You would lose, and pretty significantly too. Ive seen tCs run, and ive seen this car run, and I see the picture painted clearly in my head already. I say 4-5 cars by the time he hits 70

unfortunately, no one cares what you think because you've proven time and again that you have no clue wtf you're talking about.....

and to clarify, i thought he might be asking about my exhaust, and since i obviously don't have a y-pipe... since the next line he's asking about my susp. mods.

jonwepa
08-28-2008, 05:16 PM
http://img7.photobucket.com/albums/v21/fartlojunior/stop_posting.jpg

Nice!

I am actually getting into this. It gives me something to do to kill my last hour at work:mrgreen:

jonwepa
08-28-2008, 05:17 PM
unfortunately, no one cares what you think because you've proven time and again that you have no clue wtf you're talking about.....

and to clarify, i thought he might be asking about my exhaust, and since i obviously don't have a y-pipe... since the next line he's asking about my susp. mods.

A 4cyl. cant have a y-pipe silly!:lol:

jonwepa
08-28-2008, 05:18 PM
I was not aware of any other kind :roll: You would lose, and pretty significantly too. Ive seen tCs run, and ive seen this car run, and I see the picture painted clearly in my head already. I say 4-5 cars by the time he hits 70

I wouldn't go that crazy.....:screwy:

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 05:22 PM
Other tc's with similar setup have broken into 14s. Would I? Idk.

even if he outlaunches me, he is a good bit heavier... you've seen civics outrun skylines and lambo's, right??? with less power too. be a bit more open-minded.

If he outlaunched me, it would be difficult to catch him. But he would not really pull away. If I outlaunched him, he would probably eventually catch and maybe pass me, whether this happens before 1/4 mile or not is the question.

I can straigten this out for you rite now: This would come down to DRIVER MOD.... and since he's obviously shredded his trans, I'm guessing he's not the best driver. lol... which leads me to believe I would win. I've been driving stick for 8+ years, and am pretty good at launching/shifting. But again, I don't care. You shouldn't either.

One thing is FOR SURE... no one can determine who would win this race just by sitting around arguing about it on a forum. There is more to who wins a race than just HP numbers... as some people dont seeem to get.

Listen I know your tc will never brake into 14's the way it sits right now. Can we agree with that????

If so you should lose, becuase a 13 yr old maxima can break into the 14's with the simple boltons he has.

There is one other issue here and that is if its going to be at a track or on the streets, because that will make a difference traction wise.

Basically if he out launches you you will have NO chance of realing him in, but if you out launch him he actually will have a chance of catching you not saying he will, but he does have a chance. Yet another reason i say you will lose is your car probably traps at say 91 on a good day where as a maxima with his bolt on's can trap 93-94mph.:o

What I am typing here is just plain truth nothing else

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 05:23 PM
A 4cyl. cant have a y-pipe silly!:lol:

yes. thats why i was making sure you weren't talking to me....

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 05:25 PM
Listen I know your tc will never brake into 14's the way it sits right now. Can we agree with that????

If so you should lose, becuase a 13 yr old maxima can break into the 14's with the simple boltons he has.

There is one other issue here and that is if its going to be at a track or on the streets, because that will make a difference traction wise.

Basically if he out launches you you will have NO chance of realing him in, but if you out launch him he actually will have a chance of catching you not saying he will, but he does have a chance. Yet another reason i say you will lose is your car probably traps at say 91 on a good day where as a maxima with his bolt on's can trap 93-94mph.:o

What I am typing here is just plain truth nothing else
I believe Devin's car was already in the 14s, and that was when he had bald tires :lol:

arkadyzv
08-28-2008, 05:32 PM
I wouldn't go that crazy.....:screwy:

Ditto, I looked around on drag times to cure office boredom. Using the average driver scenario, I doubt either one would cut anything better than a 2.2-2.3 60, both of these cars would be right around mid 15's if they were bone stock. All **** talking aside its a drivers race. Maxima has more power, scion weighs 200lbs less, 1-2 cars at most for this unless someone really ****s up at the line.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 05:33 PM
:)

wasn't this thread about CN getting his doors blown off??? Back on topic i guess.

pearl
08-28-2008, 05:42 PM
how about you stop ****ing post and race? or just stop posting in general. this keeps coming up on my "new posts" search and its really annoying.

CleanNeon98
08-28-2008, 06:14 PM
:)

wasn't this thread about CN getting his doors blown off??? Back on topic i guess.
Yep...cause I was right on his rear bumper....:roll:

The Captain
08-28-2008, 06:21 PM
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i like rice
08-28-2008, 06:25 PM
I've got a stock Maxima 5 speed with 145k miles and a MSM with basic bolt ons. If you want to compare against either car, let me know. I'll be driving through Philly Friday night with the Maxima. I just need to unload about 60 lbs worth of camera gear, weekend supplies, etc before a drag race.

bru91
08-28-2008, 06:38 PM
Other tc's with similar setup have broken into 14s. Would I? Idk.

even if he outlaunches me, he is a good bit heavier... you've seen civics outrun skylines and lambo's, right??? with less power too. be a bit more open-minded.If he outlaunched me, it would be difficult to catch him. But he would not really pull away. If I outlaunched him, he would probably eventually catch and maybe pass me, whether this happens before 1/4 mile or not is the question.

I can straigten this out for you rite now: This would come down to DRIVER MOD.... and since he's obviously shredded his trans, I'm guessing he's not the best driver. lol... which leads me to believe I would win. I've been driving stick for 8+ years, and am pretty good at launching/shifting. But again, I don't care. You shouldn't either.

One thing is FOR SURE... no one can determine who would win this race just by sitting around arguing about it on a forum. There is more to who wins a race than just HP numbers... as some people dont seeem to get.

Yeah but a civic needs a lot more than intake and exhaust to outrun a skyline or a lambo. Not to mention the weight difference between a civic and a skyline is far greater than the weight difference between the tc and the maxima. Like i said, your car is about 150-200 pounds lighter but the maxima has more torque so it balances out. 150-200 pounds is basically
the weight of one passenger, so it's not a huge amount. But you're right about driver error and the arguing not solving anything.

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 06:39 PM
To clarify i have striaght pipes out of my manifolds no cats nothing. so yea a ypipe. Its like having a cut out or closets thing to it. and im not the one cyber racing u are cause you still havent excepted my challenge. I wil race you track or street. you can say whatever you like but im the one asking you to race and you just go "o man a clutch isnt a mod your dumb" no offence but you just sound like a big talking ricer except my challenge or stop posting. And jon i agree its not the much but the way i launch (a version of toms honda drop) i need it lol. and my third synchro blew and i do the same as jeeves i dont buy new trannies just grab used ones for a tenth of the price. Also to give comparison to you jon since you use to have a maxima and now have a very fast sentra haha i beat tom on the streets by like half a car with no spray ofcourse......in conclusion except my challenge or shut up

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 06:45 PM
oh an my tranny only blew cause of having a used old tranny. Ask anyone on team all out nissan how i drive so again come to the line and race or shut up and stop posting.

pete_chon
08-28-2008, 06:45 PM
Info found on Vehix.com
Stock vs Stock

Maxima SE manual curb weight: 3014
Scion TC Curb Weight: 2905

Weight difference: 109 lbs

Maxima SE manual: Horsepower: 190
Torque: 205

Scion TC: Horsepower: 160
Torque: 163

Difference in power
Horsepower: 30
Torque: 42

Your car does not defy physics..... 109 lbs does not not compensate for the power difference.

and rule of thumb: for your sake, no trash talking with a N/A 4 cylinder car

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 07:08 PM
how about you stop ****ing post and race? or just stop posting in general. this keeps coming up on my "new posts" search and its really annoying.


thats fine with me. i'll do it just to shut CN up for good! j/k bro, you know i love you! :mrgreen:

but these Max guy seem to want to race NOW, so they can have pwnage in this thread..... patience boys. I know you're eager to stroke your ego... i don't care either way. I didn't buy my car so i could be maxs... this whole thing started when i simply stated that i have beat maxs (obviously, on the street in mexico, not on a 1/4 track) ... then all hell broke loose. some ppl take Ish WAY too seriously/personally.

in the end: who cares whose car is .05 faster... :D

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 07:10 PM
Info found on Vehix.com
Stock vs Stock

Maxima SE manual curb weight: 3014
Scion TC Curb Weight: 2905

Weight difference: 109 lbs

Maxima SE manual: Horsepower: 190
Torque: 205

Scion TC: Horsepower: 160
Torque: 163

Difference in power
Horsepower: 30
Torque: 42

Your car does not defy physics..... 109 lbs does not not compensate for the power difference.

and rule of thumb: for your sake, no trash talking with a N/A 4 cylinder car


none of those stats are relevant to a real life race, or better put, specs don't win a race... get it now??

Show me where i trash-talked. :) (lol, some people on this forums idea of "trash-talking" is disagreeing with their opinion..... sad really. Thats like saying "your not a patriot if you don't agree with the iraq war")

pearl
08-28-2008, 07:13 PM
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please troll lock this

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 07:13 PM
wow you back down like the french did in WWII. hahahaha

i like rice
08-28-2008, 07:17 PM
but these Max guy seem to want to race NOW, so they can have pwnage in this thread..... patience boys.

Nah, we just want to kill this thread and shut you up about your tC, God's gift to gay men.

In the last 10 years I've done two street races and one of them was for a baseline to test out the boost controller. I could care less about straight line performance.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 07:18 PM
Nah, we just want to kill this thread and shut you up about your tC, God's gift to gay men.

In the last 10 years I've done two street races and one of them was for a baseline to test out the boost controller. I could care less about straight line performance.

who asked you?

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 07:23 PM
wow you back down like the french did in WWII. hahahaha


yeah, i back down from stupid cyber-racing arguments pretty easily...

kid- i'll race you whenever we can both agree on a time and place. I'm assuming you probably have much more free time than me (being a 27 y/o single parent who works 50+ hours/week)... and I'm not racing anywhere dumb, like the Blvd.

I'm open to suggestions. At this point, i'm more curious to see the results than anything.

btw- this was never about us racing, this started when you flamed me for "being stock".. i promptly pwnd u when i informed you that we had basically the same mods (in fact i have more)... you obvioulsy got buttsore. No biggie, u want to do a best-of-3 sometime, we'll figure it out.

no everyone chill the heck down... jeez.

peteyturbo
08-28-2008, 07:25 PM
King of delco..I am going to post the PM you sent me in the OFF TOPIC section..You can say ANYTHING you want there, please stop ruining peoples threads and just post whatever you want to over there..I'm sure people will still go to that thread to communicate with you!who asked you?

pearl
08-28-2008, 07:26 PM
how about you race at the track some we can all go watch and see? best out of three!

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 07:30 PM
King of delco..I am going to post the PM you sent me in the OFF TOPIC section..You can say ANYTHING you want there, please stop ruining peoples threads and just post whatever you want to over there..I'm sure people will still go to that thread to communicate with you!

someone call a WaaaaaAmbulence!

lol..

cliff notes:

1. Peteyturbo jumps into a thread he's not involved in to flame me.

2. Rather than continue the flame in the thread, I take it to PMs to try to have a manly discussion.

3. Peteyturbo cries and whines and starts a thread which is going to be reported/flagged as soon as it is posted since it's entire purpose is harassment.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 07:33 PM
how about you race at the track some we can all go watch and see? best out of three!


1. Because I don't care enough to drive 1-1.5 hours from my house in any direction and pay $$$ to determine this pointless argument.

2. Because either way, i get nothing out of it.

3. I don't have a helmet.

4. I'd rather not spend any time at the track with the people who are involved in this convo.

russiankid
08-28-2008, 07:53 PM
People and their 4 cylinders, tisk tisk tisk.

pearl
08-28-2008, 08:14 PM
1. Because I don't care enough to drive 1-1.5 hours from my house in any direction and pay $$$ to determine this pointless argument.
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l218/japearl/smile/alex.gif
2. Because either way, i get nothing out of it
this is true. you guys are both morons, nothing is proven.
3. I don't have a helmet.
you can rent one. its like 5 bucks. for a balla like you thats nothing.
4. I'd rather not spend any time at the track with the people who are involved in this convo.
you dont spend time, you pull up in the lane and race. no talking involved.

the only way this thread can be saved is if a video of you two racing is online in the next week.

KingOfDelco
08-28-2008, 08:27 PM
lets take it down to south phil some nite then. rite near FDR . can only be a sun/mon/tues for me.

pearl
08-28-2008, 08:29 PM
because its easier to goto the track, not to mention its legal, and it has lights, a quarter mile mark, and grandstands so we can all watch.

emdot
08-28-2008, 08:46 PM
1. Because I don't care enough to drive 1-1.5 hours from my house in any direction and pay $$$ to determine this pointless argument..

3. I don't have a helmet.



i will pay for the track admission and lend you my brand new AGV helmet LOL. I just wanna see an EPIC battle for this legendary thread lol

dgriff858
08-28-2008, 08:49 PM
yea why would u want to race in south philly where cops break it up all the time or in the northeast where my team monitors it and you can bring anyone you like. And im sorry i dont have a kid and im in college so obviously im such a loser to be in college and not have a kid....why do you make comments o wait because you want pity. I dont care where it is. And yea the track is much better and atco is 45 minutes 15 bucks to run and 3 dollars for a helmut and a timeslip to really see who won. Or yes we can take it to the streets. you keep saying cyber race when i have called you out every post and you go cyber race. What kinda dumb are you. bring your car and shut up for god sake,....o wait your going to say another really cool comment and say cyber race and not come out. since i have school and your ever soo busy bring it to a sunday meet where we can make a fair aggreement deal?

Vr-4-Life
08-28-2008, 09:28 PM
. i guess beating a maxima is worth of some praise....... fail :(

the4g63
08-28-2008, 09:32 PM
Even cleaning up your shifts a bit won't get you
.1 in a race.

Orly?

because its easier to goto the track, not to mention its legal, and it has lights, a quarter mile mark, and grandstands so we can all watch.

The epic failure?

ozthunder
08-28-2008, 09:42 PM
I wonder if the moderator's of this site selectively choose when to close stuff and when to let ****ty topics ebb on. Hmmmmmmm. :wink: