Looking for a shop in the Lehigh Valley..

[StreetCav]

To install my header for me. I went to midas and they told me they dont do that, but yet they installed my cat back. Its for my 2004 Cavalier, I dont go to Allentown to much so not sure where the shops are at. Thanks for any help.

[Got Insulin?]

Not to sound like a douche, but why don't you do it yourself? It's just a couple gaskets and a few bolts, and if it's the 04 in your avatar, the bolts shouldn't even be that difficult.

[StreetCav]

I would do it myself but in the instructions it says it needs to be welded on. And I dont have those tools.

[twastheglow]

Dude, I'm 99% sure nothing needs to be welded! That doesn't even make sense. Unless of course it says you need an o2 bung welded on.

[twastheglow]

And I completely agree with got insulin. It's SOOO much easier than you think...honestly. Why bother paying labor for something that you can acomplish yourself while learning along the way?

[CiZiN]

The best exhaust shop in the lehigh valley is Just Rite Service Center
9889 Old 22
Breinigsville, PA 18031
(610) 285-4671
The old guy there is a perfectionist with exhausts.

You can also try Area1320. Ryan does some of the best welds that I have seen but I think he is still on vacation.

[twastheglow]

I still want to know what kind of header needs to be welded. What did it say on the instructions exactly?

[StreetCav]

Thats the thing, i didnt think anything needed to be welded either.

[twastheglow]

What did it say on the instructions exactly?

Well...?

[StreetCav]

These are my exact directions.

1. Disconnect battery. Raise vehicle using lift or jack stands. Do not go under vehicle using only the service jack. Let vehicle cool.

2. Remove heat shield and 02 sensor at wire connection. Remoce 02 sensor from manifold after manifold is off engine.

3. Unbolt manifold at collector. Support converter and floor stand. Unbolt maifold and remove from top.

4. Cut inlet pipe to converter at weld on the inlet side of the converter. Grind weld and remove inlet pipe from inside converter inlet. Deburr converter inlet.

5. Clean all gasket surfaces and install new gaskets provided in the kit. A supplemental gasket sealer such as ULTRA COOPER is recommended.

6.Remove 02 sensor from factory manifold and install in header. Slip header into place from above and bolt header to engine reusing factory hardware. Torque to 30-35 ft lbs, starting in the center and progressively working to outside.

7. Using bolts, washers, compression springs and nuts, bolt extension pipe to header.

8. Slip extension pipe into converter inlet. Position system to orginal location and TACK WELD extension pipe to converter inlet. Loosen ball pivot bolts and drop converter fro welding access. Weld extension to converter and reconnect ball pivot joint. Tighten spring bolts.

[twastheglow]

So is your cat attached to your stock header?

[StreetCav]

Its attached to that extension pipe.

[twastheglow]

I have never heard of any car having their primary cat attached to the header. Most cars that have a cat in the header have a secondary/primary cat after that. I'm assuming that's not the case with yours huh?

[StreetCav]

Yea it goes my manifold, extension pipe, then it goes into the cat inlet.

[StreetCav]

But I agree with you guys, I dont think anything needs to be welded.

[twastheglow]

Take a look under your car. Are there flanges with bolts that you can unbolt each piece individually?

[russiankid]

Most of the time the cat is attached to the downpipe. Unless you are changing the downpipe as well, there should be no welding.

[twastheglow]

^ Exactly.

[StreetCav]

I think i understand you guys now. Are you talking about just changing the the manifold with the header and just hooking up the downpipe to the header. Thing is it came with this extension.

[StreetCav]

http://www.turbotechracing.com/productcart/pc/catalog/pac_2156_detail.jpg

This is exactly how my header looks. And that is the extension im talking about.

[twastheglow]

I see what you're talking about now. I've never worked with a header that looked like that. I would install the header itself for now, and if the "extension" piece actually needs to be welded, take it to a muffler shop (with the header already on) who can do it for you. OR...the other option is take everything off your car that needs to be welded and take it to a muffler/body shop and have them weld it then take it back and install it on your car. Just my $.02.

[StreetCav]

Thanks for you help man i appreciate it. Gonna try it Monday.

[twastheglow]

Not a problem at all!!! Good luck with everything.



PS...you'll have much better luck going to a Mom/Pop type muffler shop if you're looking for them to install anything for you. That way you can avoid all the corporate liability issues that you ran into with Midas.

[russiankid]

If the current downpipe flange is different from the new header, it won't bolt up. So you will need to get the new downpipe welded in.